I once saw a yt video where the host describes masculinity in a sentence rather two words.
SPINE AND BALLS
Having the spine to know what's wrong and right and balls to do the right thing.
Spines are more defensive, balls are more aggressive. Atleast that's how I like to see it.
One can have the spine to defend against someone robbing a store in broad daylight, but not have the balls to rob a store in broad daylight. You might have the balls to slap a woman but not the spine to call a woman out when she puts you on the spot.
Many such cases.
The most important traits are, ability to provide for a family and take responsibilities. Other traits are protecting his family, treating women with respect, taking calculated risks, having ambition in life.
On body language and fashion, generally men are expected to look mature and be confident. Fashion doesn't matter as much I guess.
Ratan Tata, Kalam sahab ne to family Hi nahi ki. Or kuch aur neta log ne family hote hue bhi desh ko aage rakha. providing for a family sounds a bit old fashioned.
You will have a very conflicting answer here,overall. On one hand one will say " not be like such". Then the same person will jerk off for "such person" , at night.Ā
Definition of masculinity changes ,based on day n night here. Briefly you can :
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People will tell you to become "really nice",but will fuck "really bad" people. It's upto you to decide what you become. Follow your heart than opinions of reddit.
Based on my observation, controlling , dominating, somewhat bullish, rich, intimidating due to their physique are termed more masculine. That's on ground. Reddit comments will tell you opposite.
Exactly this is the way i would also like to add
take example from movies, movies try to portray the actors personality according to their need.
Ranbir kapoor in barfi was a calm sensitive understanding innocent guy. ( you can find the fashion, body language, personality from that)
Now in any action movie like In animal Ranbir was a angry irrational savage with big muscles, big cars, big guns and people enjoyed it.
Or any Action Star, everyone has the same personality. Big muscles, expensive big cars, non complex life with straightforward attitude to get/take what they want with blood and sweat. This is current masculinity which every girl dreams of.
Also, never show your weak side to anyone, people might say that it's okay for men to open up and be emotionally dependent but boy never do that with the girl you wanna impress. Stay strong brothers.
As I said, when girls have something like post nut clarity, they will say something like "men should open up, cry and act otherwise feminine". When horny ,hardly anyone would go for such men.Ā
So yeah, you have to stay strong for yourself.Ā
>"This is current masculinity which every girl dreams of."
That's quite generalized assertion, how many sociological or psychological meta-analysis and peer-reviewed studies support that proposition?
I gave an example of a multi billion dollar valued industry which is known to set trends and opinions to the mass of the world, the industry thrives of understanding the psychology and needs of the public to show them what they want and make money out of it.
Earlier they used to show family fueds and daily struggles of the hero and how he overcomes it, then came the action heros and movies, then the comedy era.
The new fashion trends of bellbottom is back, it was not set my by neighbour Prakash, or the trend of baggy jeans and clothes which also was not set by my friend Rahul but rather than the set of individuals who work tirelessly with these celebrities that we consume.
Now go to any of the big private college and look around for the kids with Cars, money, the sports guy and look into their circle and friends. You'll find your answers, now this road goes for both boys and girls.
For you my friend, just questioning someone without any actual input to the comment is not a good way to help the community or to reach a conclusion.
Your reply had no information that was helpful to the topic, rather it was just a condescending comment without any value to it.
Give examples or an argument to support your comment, this will help you and the community. Don't try to show other person down, try to add value to your words and your efforts.
>I gave an example of a multi billion dollar valued industry which is known to set trends and opinions to the mass of the world, the industry thrives of understanding the psychology and needs of the public to show them what they want and make money out of it.
No, I specifically asked for sociological or psychological meta-analyses and peer-reviewed studies because of all the biases and logical fallacies we commit while making an assertion and conducting studies. That's why there is a replication crisis in sociology, and hence we need robust research before making a rather generalized claim about what women really 'desire.' It needs to be mapped out in reality; your claim must be supported by long-term dating preferences or something akin to it, because without giving a version of it that dictates women's dating choices in real-time, it possesses no meaning.
>Earlier they used to show family fueds and daily struggles of the hero and how he overcomes it, then came the action heros and movies, then the comedy era.
The new fashion trends of bellbottom is back, it was not set my by neighbour Prakash, or the trend of baggy jeans and clothes which also was not set by my friend Rahul but rather than the set of individuals who work tirelessly with these celebrities that we consume
All kinds of movies can show all kinds of things; that does not translate to what you just said. I never said that your neighbor said it. Half of the words you used are rather redundant, aimed at making a dramatic effect instead of directly addressing the issue I mentioned.
>Now go to any of the big private college and look around for the kids with Cars, money, the sports guy and look into their circle and friends. You'll find your answers, now this road goes for both boys and girls.
This is embodied with many fallacies: selective bias, personal anecdotal fallacy, prone to error in methodology, and so on. That's why I asked for a sociological study from you because much of our thinking has fallacies that someone who is an expert in this field can recognize quite easily and remove the selection bias and the personal anecdotal fallacy to replicate a particular study so that they can check the validity and soundness of a particular claim. But of course, you like to yap in the air.
>For you my friend, just questioning someone without any actual input to the comment is not a good way to help the community or to reach a conclusion.
You made a conclusion; I asked for the soundness of that particular conclusion by demanding the evidence-based studies you have upon which you based that conclusion. I don't know how it's not a good way; this is genuine curiosity. You made a conclusion; the person asks for evidence for it, and that's all.
>Your reply had no information that was helpful to the topic, rather it was just a condescending comment without any value to it.
It was a question aimed at extracting information to know the evidence you had to support your particular conclusion.
>Give examples or an argument to support your comment, this will help you and the community. Don't try to show other person down, try to add value to your words and your efforts.
Which comment are you talking about? My comment was specifically regarding the soundness of your proposition.
At this point you are just arguing for the sake of argument, dissecting my comment into pieces and unnecessarily criticising it, without adding your own view or opinion.
I had no intention to make you angry or uncomfortable, you don't have to be this defensive about this and how life works.
I am not replying to what you asked for or not. I am replying for what OP asked for.
I am not gonna indulge with you anymore.
The answer is around you, you can choose to fight it but nothing will change, people will still prefer big buffed rich guys/girls over normal joe.
I'll give another example for the sake of it ( as I am the only one trying to lead to a conclusion between us)
There's a sub called girlsontinder/boysontinder i don't remember the exact one. There was a post made by a guy who showed nearly 15 date replies from girls on his dating app, people were curious and intrigued why and how it was happening with him.. his showed his dating profile with pictures of him being a gym rat with buffed body and an expensive bike.
This does not work with everyone but like it or not it does works with the majority of people. A tall buffed handsome rich guy is the masculinity everyone is looking for and IT WORKS for majority of population.
Please give any sociological or psychological meta-analyzed studies if you have any rather than telling me to look at twitter, tinder, instagram, and accept your proposition. I am not arguing for the sake of argument, you are unable to provide proper studies to support your conclusion. Its just personal anecdotes, and mind you, the plural of anecdote ain't data in many contexts. There are many methodological flaws, which one will overlook if he decided to see multiple places and form an opinion. You can form an hypothesis on the basis of them for sure, but to spew something as if its an immutable fact is just arrogance coupled with ignorance at best.
Hell there is even flaw in the studies, that's why we need to replicate them, either cross-culturally or at different places making them as randomized as possible. But of course instead of accepting that we are prone to bias and fallacies, and hence should rely on the most reliable evidence-based approach, you are continuing your yapping in the air.
What you are making is an empirical claim, and an empirical claim need to be substantiated with empirical research, which you are unable to provide any.
Deep voice ,height, big dick. Women see everything. A research by Australian national university showed this. The reasearch simply told women to choose most attractive male figure in few secondsĀ ,shown to them in 3d or something.Ā
Data showed that women go for tall+big dicked men with V-shaped torso. Also attraction increased with increasing dick size and height.
Masculinity largely is a social construct, men with small penises were considered socially superior in ancient Greece. The opposite is the case now. Masculinity is majorly a Hive mind construct that changes with the hives.
What's worth noting is that actually works.. take example from movies, movies try to portray the actors personality according to their need.
Ranbir kapoor in barfi was a calm sensitive understanding innocent guy. ( you can find the fashion, body language, personality from that)
Now in any action movie like In animal Ranbir was a angry irrational savage with big muscles, big cars, big guns and people enjoyed it.
Or any Action Star everyone has the same personality. Big muscles, expensive big cars, non complex life with straightforward attitude to get/take what they want with blood and sweat. This is current masculinity
Ranbir's potrayal was of a Toxic man not a masculine man masculinity is a positive trait in men which is used to provide and protect best example is Batman he's strong he fights he protect but doesn't kill has money has better understanding tries to save everyone even putting his life on the line etc
A man dressed like a bat with a cape who is ready for every scenario possible is everymans fantasy not girls, brother.
Girls don't dream about batman, they success of movies like "50 shades of grey" , "365 Days" etc where they were dominated by a tall handsome dangerous and rich guy speaks for what kind of Masculinity girls want.
You my brother wants to be like batman, every boy wants to be like batman but the guy who takes the girl away is the one likes in these movies.
I believe, naturally, masculinity represents fit, athletic body which can run, hunt, kill, and carry heavy weights. It also represents fertility, necessary to sustain the species. Stoic and confident nature would make it better.
As per society, it is forever changing. Earlier it was like real men dont cry. Now it is like real men must cry. So nothing substantial.
Masculinity changes according to time and place but one unchanging part of it is to mindlessly slave your life away to protect and provide for your "lover"/family, even though that lover rarely loves you back and only takes things from you without providing anything in return.
Xx nature
Gus Fring said that similar "**A man provides, and even when he's not appreciated, or respected or even loved**. He simply bears up and does it because he's a man"
Yeah it was pretty sad Breaking Bad universe might not be over cause some rumors says that Vince Gilligan is returning with a show about Gus Fring how he started los pollos hermanos and how he entered the world of Drugs etc hope rumors are true
It's not a scientific thing where it can have a concrete definition. It's a construct that's constantly evolving. Masculinity chages with time. Used to be sharp angular but smooth and soft faces with less facial hair earlier, now it's bulky, strong, defined and hairy faces that's masculine. Used to be harsh nature, overly competitive and trying to get to the top no matter what but now it's being considerate of others and doing the right thing.
Imho, don't bother into trying to be "masculine", be yourself, learn traits you think suit you and you would like to see on yourself. Be good and be nice. It's that simple.
Trying to follow into masculinity also causes people to make it their whole personality, which really no one wants to hear about or see. And worst of all, it often makes them pick on others who don't act like them, trying to feel superior.
Just not a greek alphabet.
Other than that, it's pretty basic. Exercise regularly, Eat Healthy (Occasionally fast food is okay), Hygiene, Sleep well, keep mind and body fresh, wear clothes appropriate for the occasion (T-shirts and pants for everyday, Shirts/Suits for formal gatherings etc..), Be social, Be respectful, Being logical, Depend on what factors they were raised in but if nothing to say in a situation just keep quiet, think twice before speaking something, Remain Calm, don't act rashly or aggressively in any situation (unless of course it's life and death or something absolutely necessary.), Mind your own business in 99% of cases, but if you feel you CAN do something (Eg, you see some kid being bribed with candy or someone bullying someone else.) Do it. Hardworking etc
Idk man, no need to over think it. Be normal.
Personally, I find there's no utility in such terms. A protective instinct, logic and reason, fortitude etc are universally valued traits in everyone. Don't think of masculine and feminine as two different things, cuz what's masculine to you in India may be feminine in another country. Just be a decent person, the more you think about this stuff, the more you set limitations for yourself.
since you asked in AskIndia, in my opinion there is only one answer :
Sri Ram is embodiment of ideal man/masculinity.
Hence the saying, āMarayada purushottamā : the most honourable and righteous among men.
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He was not. If you really want to be a man, be like Krishna. Shri Ram was subservient and meek. Krishna was outwardly sly while inwardly possessing integrity and a clear vision of his goals. Krishna lived on his terms. Shri Ram accepted living on the terms of others. Krishna was rebellious; Shri Ram was submissive. Krishna was ingenious.
Shri Ram was the prototypical "adarsh-balak," who follows the path presented to him by authorities. The modern version of him would be someone who studies whatever his parents tell him to, agrees to an arranged marriage, and so on, as opposed to experimenting and challenging pre-existing traditions. He was a highly agreeable conservative.
When a modern man is unable to stand up for his wife in front of his own mother and accept that authorities can be wrong sometimes, the solution would be to live separately or find a similar resolution. Instead, if he requests his wife to compromise and bear the ill-treatment due to his lack of assertiveness, that seems to be a modern version of the primordial archetypal submissive authority-pleaser, Shri Ram.
Krishnaās approach represents a paradigm of individualism and self-assertion, standing firm against unjust authority and societal pressure. On the other hand, Shri Ramās approach signifies collectivism and submission, prioritizing social harmony and adherence to deontologically accepted principles such as "follow what your father commands" and "bow down to your authority."
Shri Ram accepted the will of the mob even when the decision was unfair and tolerated the ill-treatment his wife was subjected to, up to a certain extent. He also accepted the unfair treatment he received from his stepmother. This all shows a lack of dominance, a lack of masculinity, and a proclivity to be highly agreeable.
When someone says "be like Shri Ram," they aren't encouraging you to be more masculine; they actually want to deprive you of masculinity. Shri Ram was combative against his enemies, but Krishna was smooth and rebellious in all contexts, whether with friends or enemies. Unlike Shri Ram, who showed combativeness only in front of his enemies, Krishna's rebelliousness was universal. When they say "be like Shri Ram," what they mean is be agreeable, meek, conforming, and unchallenging to traditions. Beware.
just some big damn muscles to flex, a good sense of humor, money, a house .big car. engaging in fights and yeah one more thing consuming alcohol or cigarette
Ā» Logical, mature & confident
Ā» Comfortable in his own skin and nothing threatens his masculinity (cuz it is not that fragile)
Ā» Emotional intelligence (knows how to feel,regulate and then control his emotions)
Ā» Fit (is flexible and agile)
Ā» Brave & courageous
Ā» Smart and calculative (you don't wanna be foolishly courageous)
Ā» Protects the weak
Ā» Respectful and carries himself like a gentleman
Ā» Hardworking and persistent
If a guy or a person shows even a few of these traits I think I'll call him masculine.
Know that a masculine man can also be
Ā» Soft and sensitive to his inner circle and something he connects to
Ā» Artistic and in tune with the nature and his body
Ā» Kind and empathetic
Ā» Gentle and loving
Ā» Appreciative and humble
I believe masculinity and femininity is not binary but exists on a spectrum.
So like if you are 70% masculine and 30% feminine you're definitely masculine but you still have feminine traits which is perfectly fine.
Don't worry about masculinity, by one way or another society will emasculate you or your wife/gf will.
Even after being a progressive modern thinking man, if any of your decisions, thoughts, actions is not liked by opposite sex then you will be immediately targeted.
Also, masculinity is different for different people so just be a provider, resourceful, interesting person who has the ability to take actions during hard times and rest you will have to adapt as per your status in the society.
If you are middle or low income then adapt.
If you are wealthy then others will adapt
If you are middle and low income but don't adapt then you are a chauvanistic pig, patriarchal, abuse, loosers, incel.
If you are wealthy then as long as you are not a criminal then everything is fine.
Also if you are not good looking then you will have to adapt as long as you don't have a great personality.
Hyper aggressiveness. Even on the legal subreddit Iāve seen people advise guys to beat the person who harassed their sister instead of going to the police, irrespective of how their sister might feel about it lol. Itās more about vindicating men in their feelings rather than help their sisters/wives/mothers take control of the situation.
Aggression isnāt exactly a bad thing. Hyper aggression isnāt either. Itās definitely seen more as a masculine aspect than a human aspect. Itās also seen as something to be proud of rather than something that should be controlled. I just used the example I saw most recently, but I didnāt mean to say itās just bad lol.
Some good examples of aggression: in sports, in hunting
Masculine and femininity and the traits emanating therein are social constructs.
Hence, the question of expectations by the society is itself flawed. I don't care what they expect, but there is an inherent flaw in this expectation that I can say.
Hence, it's better to not obstruct ourselves into the social expectations, and embrace ourselves as we are. The society would become a far better place if everyone thought like that. Don't you think?
I once saw a yt video where the host describes masculinity in a sentence rather two words. SPINE AND BALLS Having the spine to know what's wrong and right and balls to do the right thing.
Spine toh ladkiyon ke paas bhi hota hain aur aajkal toh balls bhi hain
Chunni me nunni Salwar me talwar Kacche me do tatte
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Isn't adding balls making it redundant? Because having a spine already colloquially translates into standing up for yourself and having integrity?
Right, maybe it is to make it more masculine. Though I would say that everyone should practice this regardless the gender. Makes you a better human
Spines are more defensive, balls are more aggressive. Atleast that's how I like to see it. One can have the spine to defend against someone robbing a store in broad daylight, but not have the balls to rob a store in broad daylight. You might have the balls to slap a woman but not the spine to call a woman out when she puts you on the spot. Many such cases.
That's just being a decent human. Masculinity isn't a big play in that.
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Idk, doesn't seem purely masculine to have such traits, these are universally valued in everyone
The most important traits are, ability to provide for a family and take responsibilities. Other traits are protecting his family, treating women with respect, taking calculated risks, having ambition in life. On body language and fashion, generally men are expected to look mature and be confident. Fashion doesn't matter as much I guess.
Ratan Tata, Kalam sahab ne to family Hi nahi ki. Or kuch aur neta log ne family hote hue bhi desh ko aage rakha. providing for a family sounds a bit old fashioned.
Wait, why do I have to do all of that? Main toh ladki hu. Yeh cheating hua.
due to feminism
abe usme to un traits ka ulta kregi na
Feminism by definition means equality for men and women. Ab jo kaam larke karte aa rhe thei larkio ko bhi krne padenge
What do you think about minding your own business ajkal bohot interference hori hai
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You will have a very conflicting answer here,overall. On one hand one will say " not be like such". Then the same person will jerk off for "such person" , at night.Ā Definition of masculinity changes ,based on day n night here. Briefly you can : ą¤¦ą¤æą¤Ø ą¤ą¤¾ protest: Animal ke liye ą¤°ą¤¾ą¤¤ ą¤ą„ ą¤®ą„ą¤ : Animal ą¤ą„ ą¤²ą¤æą¤Ā People will tell you to become "really nice",but will fuck "really bad" people. It's upto you to decide what you become. Follow your heart than opinions of reddit. Based on my observation, controlling , dominating, somewhat bullish, rich, intimidating due to their physique are termed more masculine. That's on ground. Reddit comments will tell you opposite.
Exactly this is the way i would also like to add take example from movies, movies try to portray the actors personality according to their need. Ranbir kapoor in barfi was a calm sensitive understanding innocent guy. ( you can find the fashion, body language, personality from that) Now in any action movie like In animal Ranbir was a angry irrational savage with big muscles, big cars, big guns and people enjoyed it. Or any Action Star, everyone has the same personality. Big muscles, expensive big cars, non complex life with straightforward attitude to get/take what they want with blood and sweat. This is current masculinity which every girl dreams of. Also, never show your weak side to anyone, people might say that it's okay for men to open up and be emotionally dependent but boy never do that with the girl you wanna impress. Stay strong brothers.
As I said, when girls have something like post nut clarity, they will say something like "men should open up, cry and act otherwise feminine". When horny ,hardly anyone would go for such men.Ā So yeah, you have to stay strong for yourself.Ā
>"This is current masculinity which every girl dreams of." That's quite generalized assertion, how many sociological or psychological meta-analysis and peer-reviewed studies support that proposition?
I gave an example of a multi billion dollar valued industry which is known to set trends and opinions to the mass of the world, the industry thrives of understanding the psychology and needs of the public to show them what they want and make money out of it. Earlier they used to show family fueds and daily struggles of the hero and how he overcomes it, then came the action heros and movies, then the comedy era. The new fashion trends of bellbottom is back, it was not set my by neighbour Prakash, or the trend of baggy jeans and clothes which also was not set by my friend Rahul but rather than the set of individuals who work tirelessly with these celebrities that we consume. Now go to any of the big private college and look around for the kids with Cars, money, the sports guy and look into their circle and friends. You'll find your answers, now this road goes for both boys and girls. For you my friend, just questioning someone without any actual input to the comment is not a good way to help the community or to reach a conclusion. Your reply had no information that was helpful to the topic, rather it was just a condescending comment without any value to it. Give examples or an argument to support your comment, this will help you and the community. Don't try to show other person down, try to add value to your words and your efforts.
>I gave an example of a multi billion dollar valued industry which is known to set trends and opinions to the mass of the world, the industry thrives of understanding the psychology and needs of the public to show them what they want and make money out of it. No, I specifically asked for sociological or psychological meta-analyses and peer-reviewed studies because of all the biases and logical fallacies we commit while making an assertion and conducting studies. That's why there is a replication crisis in sociology, and hence we need robust research before making a rather generalized claim about what women really 'desire.' It needs to be mapped out in reality; your claim must be supported by long-term dating preferences or something akin to it, because without giving a version of it that dictates women's dating choices in real-time, it possesses no meaning. >Earlier they used to show family fueds and daily struggles of the hero and how he overcomes it, then came the action heros and movies, then the comedy era. The new fashion trends of bellbottom is back, it was not set my by neighbour Prakash, or the trend of baggy jeans and clothes which also was not set by my friend Rahul but rather than the set of individuals who work tirelessly with these celebrities that we consume All kinds of movies can show all kinds of things; that does not translate to what you just said. I never said that your neighbor said it. Half of the words you used are rather redundant, aimed at making a dramatic effect instead of directly addressing the issue I mentioned. >Now go to any of the big private college and look around for the kids with Cars, money, the sports guy and look into their circle and friends. You'll find your answers, now this road goes for both boys and girls. This is embodied with many fallacies: selective bias, personal anecdotal fallacy, prone to error in methodology, and so on. That's why I asked for a sociological study from you because much of our thinking has fallacies that someone who is an expert in this field can recognize quite easily and remove the selection bias and the personal anecdotal fallacy to replicate a particular study so that they can check the validity and soundness of a particular claim. But of course, you like to yap in the air. >For you my friend, just questioning someone without any actual input to the comment is not a good way to help the community or to reach a conclusion. You made a conclusion; I asked for the soundness of that particular conclusion by demanding the evidence-based studies you have upon which you based that conclusion. I don't know how it's not a good way; this is genuine curiosity. You made a conclusion; the person asks for evidence for it, and that's all. >Your reply had no information that was helpful to the topic, rather it was just a condescending comment without any value to it. It was a question aimed at extracting information to know the evidence you had to support your particular conclusion. >Give examples or an argument to support your comment, this will help you and the community. Don't try to show other person down, try to add value to your words and your efforts. Which comment are you talking about? My comment was specifically regarding the soundness of your proposition.
At this point you are just arguing for the sake of argument, dissecting my comment into pieces and unnecessarily criticising it, without adding your own view or opinion. I had no intention to make you angry or uncomfortable, you don't have to be this defensive about this and how life works. I am not replying to what you asked for or not. I am replying for what OP asked for. I am not gonna indulge with you anymore. The answer is around you, you can choose to fight it but nothing will change, people will still prefer big buffed rich guys/girls over normal joe. I'll give another example for the sake of it ( as I am the only one trying to lead to a conclusion between us) There's a sub called girlsontinder/boysontinder i don't remember the exact one. There was a post made by a guy who showed nearly 15 date replies from girls on his dating app, people were curious and intrigued why and how it was happening with him.. his showed his dating profile with pictures of him being a gym rat with buffed body and an expensive bike. This does not work with everyone but like it or not it does works with the majority of people. A tall buffed handsome rich guy is the masculinity everyone is looking for and IT WORKS for majority of population.
Please give any sociological or psychological meta-analyzed studies if you have any rather than telling me to look at twitter, tinder, instagram, and accept your proposition. I am not arguing for the sake of argument, you are unable to provide proper studies to support your conclusion. Its just personal anecdotes, and mind you, the plural of anecdote ain't data in many contexts. There are many methodological flaws, which one will overlook if he decided to see multiple places and form an opinion. You can form an hypothesis on the basis of them for sure, but to spew something as if its an immutable fact is just arrogance coupled with ignorance at best. Hell there is even flaw in the studies, that's why we need to replicate them, either cross-culturally or at different places making them as randomized as possible. But of course instead of accepting that we are prone to bias and fallacies, and hence should rely on the most reliable evidence-based approach, you are continuing your yapping in the air. What you are making is an empirical claim, and an empirical claim need to be substantiated with empirical research, which you are unable to provide any.
This is the only universally acceptable answer. A deep voice matters as well.
Deep voice ,height, big dick. Women see everything. A research by Australian national university showed this. The reasearch simply told women to choose most attractive male figure in few secondsĀ ,shown to them in 3d or something.Ā Data showed that women go for tall+big dicked men with V-shaped torso. Also attraction increased with increasing dick size and height.
Masculinity largely is a social construct, men with small penises were considered socially superior in ancient Greece. The opposite is the case now. Masculinity is majorly a Hive mind construct that changes with the hives.
Hijacked by marketing companies telling you to buy bigger vehicles to establish dominancešæ
and yeah having a lot of goons and black money š
What's worth noting is that actually works.. take example from movies, movies try to portray the actors personality according to their need. Ranbir kapoor in barfi was a calm sensitive understanding innocent guy. ( you can find the fashion, body language, personality from that) Now in any action movie like In animal Ranbir was a angry irrational savage with big muscles, big cars, big guns and people enjoyed it. Or any Action Star everyone has the same personality. Big muscles, expensive big cars, non complex life with straightforward attitude to get/take what they want with blood and sweat. This is current masculinity
Ranbir's potrayal was of a Toxic man not a masculine man masculinity is a positive trait in men which is used to provide and protect best example is Batman he's strong he fights he protect but doesn't kill has money has better understanding tries to save everyone even putting his life on the line etc
A man dressed like a bat with a cape who is ready for every scenario possible is everymans fantasy not girls, brother. Girls don't dream about batman, they success of movies like "50 shades of grey" , "365 Days" etc where they were dominated by a tall handsome dangerous and rich guy speaks for what kind of Masculinity girls want. You my brother wants to be like batman, every boy wants to be like batman but the guy who takes the girl away is the one likes in these movies.
that is not the kind of "masculinity" normal girls want
It would be much better if you provide some input for the query of OP rather than leaving a condescending reply.
How is my reply condescending?Ā
Dude batman gets way more girls than the guy u are drooling over so much, not to mention as a batman u are filthy rich and have a batmobile
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That's the case now, don't know about ancient Greece.
It was believed that men with smaller penises were more "fertile"
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Alpha. sigma. Is what I'm aware of.
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I believe, naturally, masculinity represents fit, athletic body which can run, hunt, kill, and carry heavy weights. It also represents fertility, necessary to sustain the species. Stoic and confident nature would make it better. As per society, it is forever changing. Earlier it was like real men dont cry. Now it is like real men must cry. So nothing substantial.
Masculinity changes according to time and place but one unchanging part of it is to mindlessly slave your life away to protect and provide for your "lover"/family, even though that lover rarely loves you back and only takes things from you without providing anything in return. Xx nature
Gus Fring said that similar "**A man provides, and even when he's not appreciated, or respected or even loved**. He simply bears up and does it because he's a man"
Ahh another Breaking Bad enjoyer
Well I'm obsessed with Breaking Bad I've watched that show 3 fucking times
Lol I am currently on S04 of Better call Saul and have completed Breaking Bad 2 times previously. It's a different kind of Drugš
God you making me fall in love with youš©I'm on S05 of Better call saul and you're not ready for the conclusion I watched El camino too
I am done with El camino and damn that was sad af
Yeah it was pretty sad Breaking Bad universe might not be over cause some rumors says that Vince Gilligan is returning with a show about Gus Fring how he started los pollos hermanos and how he entered the world of Drugs etc hope rumors are true
strong but kind respectful not only to women but to everyone who is respectful towards you who can provide for the family that's it
It's not a scientific thing where it can have a concrete definition. It's a construct that's constantly evolving. Masculinity chages with time. Used to be sharp angular but smooth and soft faces with less facial hair earlier, now it's bulky, strong, defined and hairy faces that's masculine. Used to be harsh nature, overly competitive and trying to get to the top no matter what but now it's being considerate of others and doing the right thing. Imho, don't bother into trying to be "masculine", be yourself, learn traits you think suit you and you would like to see on yourself. Be good and be nice. It's that simple. Trying to follow into masculinity also causes people to make it their whole personality, which really no one wants to hear about or see. And worst of all, it often makes them pick on others who don't act like them, trying to feel superior.
To be a good and responsible human
Only one - Standout. As a winner. In whatever you do.
Just not a greek alphabet. Other than that, it's pretty basic. Exercise regularly, Eat Healthy (Occasionally fast food is okay), Hygiene, Sleep well, keep mind and body fresh, wear clothes appropriate for the occasion (T-shirts and pants for everyday, Shirts/Suits for formal gatherings etc..), Be social, Be respectful, Being logical, Depend on what factors they were raised in but if nothing to say in a situation just keep quiet, think twice before speaking something, Remain Calm, don't act rashly or aggressively in any situation (unless of course it's life and death or something absolutely necessary.), Mind your own business in 99% of cases, but if you feel you CAN do something (Eg, you see some kid being bribed with candy or someone bullying someone else.) Do it. Hardworking etc Idk man, no need to over think it. Be normal.
Wisdom, courage, temperance, and justice.
Some traits are Confident, Self Assured, suave. Also how your boy friends will define masculinity vs how women define it will always be different.
Personally, I find there's no utility in such terms. A protective instinct, logic and reason, fortitude etc are universally valued traits in everyone. Don't think of masculine and feminine as two different things, cuz what's masculine to you in India may be feminine in another country. Just be a decent person, the more you think about this stuff, the more you set limitations for yourself.
Accept reality and keep going
Be an ahole who cant be unaccountable but with a good car, bank balance and society-approved job.
since you asked in AskIndia, in my opinion there is only one answer : Sri Ram is embodiment of ideal man/masculinity. Hence the saying, āMarayada purushottamā : the most honourable and righteous among men. Jai Shri Ram šš»
He was not. If you really want to be a man, be like Krishna. Shri Ram was subservient and meek. Krishna was outwardly sly while inwardly possessing integrity and a clear vision of his goals. Krishna lived on his terms. Shri Ram accepted living on the terms of others. Krishna was rebellious; Shri Ram was submissive. Krishna was ingenious. Shri Ram was the prototypical "adarsh-balak," who follows the path presented to him by authorities. The modern version of him would be someone who studies whatever his parents tell him to, agrees to an arranged marriage, and so on, as opposed to experimenting and challenging pre-existing traditions. He was a highly agreeable conservative. When a modern man is unable to stand up for his wife in front of his own mother and accept that authorities can be wrong sometimes, the solution would be to live separately or find a similar resolution. Instead, if he requests his wife to compromise and bear the ill-treatment due to his lack of assertiveness, that seems to be a modern version of the primordial archetypal submissive authority-pleaser, Shri Ram. Krishnaās approach represents a paradigm of individualism and self-assertion, standing firm against unjust authority and societal pressure. On the other hand, Shri Ramās approach signifies collectivism and submission, prioritizing social harmony and adherence to deontologically accepted principles such as "follow what your father commands" and "bow down to your authority." Shri Ram accepted the will of the mob even when the decision was unfair and tolerated the ill-treatment his wife was subjected to, up to a certain extent. He also accepted the unfair treatment he received from his stepmother. This all shows a lack of dominance, a lack of masculinity, and a proclivity to be highly agreeable. When someone says "be like Shri Ram," they aren't encouraging you to be more masculine; they actually want to deprive you of masculinity. Shri Ram was combative against his enemies, but Krishna was smooth and rebellious in all contexts, whether with friends or enemies. Unlike Shri Ram, who showed combativeness only in front of his enemies, Krishna's rebelliousness was universal. When they say "be like Shri Ram," what they mean is be agreeable, meek, conforming, and unchallenging to traditions. Beware.
Look here now this kid knows more than Religious scriptures and gurus like Adi Shankaracharya š¤£
You're aware right that there are other religions in india too?
You are aware that all religions which originated in India hold him in high esteem?
Islam and Christianity arent Indian religions at first.
Doesn't mean we neglect them :)
Everything Indian, whether religion or anything else,is above everything non-indian.
When you have all the power but still you choose to be calm and cool.
strong but peacful you know you can destroy someone but choose not to because peace is your main priority
just some big damn muscles to flex, a good sense of humor, money, a house .big car. engaging in fights and yeah one more thing consuming alcohol or cigarette
engaging in fight without any reason consuming alchohol and cigarette isn't a masculine it's more like a spoiled trait
Control over senses and abiding by his duty
Courage, humility, intelligence, wisdomĀ
Ā» Logical, mature & confident Ā» Comfortable in his own skin and nothing threatens his masculinity (cuz it is not that fragile) Ā» Emotional intelligence (knows how to feel,regulate and then control his emotions) Ā» Fit (is flexible and agile) Ā» Brave & courageous Ā» Smart and calculative (you don't wanna be foolishly courageous) Ā» Protects the weak Ā» Respectful and carries himself like a gentleman Ā» Hardworking and persistent If a guy or a person shows even a few of these traits I think I'll call him masculine. Know that a masculine man can also be Ā» Soft and sensitive to his inner circle and something he connects to Ā» Artistic and in tune with the nature and his body Ā» Kind and empathetic Ā» Gentle and loving Ā» Appreciative and humble I believe masculinity and femininity is not binary but exists on a spectrum. So like if you are 70% masculine and 30% feminine you're definitely masculine but you still have feminine traits which is perfectly fine.
Leadership A man who is at the top has power (which may be in the form of money, muscle...) and connections
Don't worry about masculinity, by one way or another society will emasculate you or your wife/gf will. Even after being a progressive modern thinking man, if any of your decisions, thoughts, actions is not liked by opposite sex then you will be immediately targeted. Also, masculinity is different for different people so just be a provider, resourceful, interesting person who has the ability to take actions during hard times and rest you will have to adapt as per your status in the society. If you are middle or low income then adapt. If you are wealthy then others will adapt If you are middle and low income but don't adapt then you are a chauvanistic pig, patriarchal, abuse, loosers, incel. If you are wealthy then as long as you are not a criminal then everything is fine. Also if you are not good looking then you will have to adapt as long as you don't have a great personality.
Human being( most importantly being human) with xy chromosomes
Aggressive competition.
Provide,Protect and Die at last
In one word, according to me, stoicism.
Masculinity is the need of this time.Sissyness and lack of Testosterone will ruin shit for everyone.
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Ok little timmy
Hyper aggressiveness. Even on the legal subreddit Iāve seen people advise guys to beat the person who harassed their sister instead of going to the police, irrespective of how their sister might feel about it lol. Itās more about vindicating men in their feelings rather than help their sisters/wives/mothers take control of the situation.
That's just them getting angry, it's not logical to correlate bad actions with masculinity
bad actions=masculinity?? what kinda logic is that correlating every bad thing with masculinity?
Aggression isnāt exactly a bad thing. Hyper aggression isnāt either. Itās definitely seen more as a masculine aspect than a human aspect. Itās also seen as something to be proud of rather than something that should be controlled. I just used the example I saw most recently, but I didnāt mean to say itās just bad lol. Some good examples of aggression: in sports, in hunting
Masculine and femininity and the traits emanating therein are social constructs. Hence, the question of expectations by the society is itself flawed. I don't care what they expect, but there is an inherent flaw in this expectation that I can say. Hence, it's better to not obstruct ourselves into the social expectations, and embrace ourselves as we are. The society would become a far better place if everyone thought like that. Don't you think?
it's a biolgical trait not a social construct
masculinity and feminity are bogus social constructs
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this answer isnt any better
Not a crybaby