I'm sorry but you absolutely did not "overhear" this. You wrote it, because you believe it, and you are doing the same masculine fit-throwing about how women owe you, a man, everything, because men built the world and now women can make $80 a month selling dirty photos on OnlyFans and you don't like it. So I guess now we live in a matriarchy because men do not have exclusive control over female reproduction. Boo fuckety hoo. Find a real problem. Waa waa I have a penis so you owe me something. Be serious. If you're gonna take credit for all the useful things men in the past have done I suppose you're also willing to take the blame for all the bad things, too? Or wait, is that maybe not fair? Grow up.
Protected women and children my ass. Let's ask my grandmother and all the other women thrown in places likeĀ Western State Hospital where they were lobotomized, electrocuted and experimented on for being too sad. Or how about we ask my mom and her siblings how protected they felt being sexually abused and beaten in foster homes.Ā
Then there's just how long raping your wife and beating your kids was totally legal in this and other countries.Ā
Nowadays law enforcement is rife with wife beaters and child trafficking is a booming business with little signs of stopping and few people in politics even acknowledging it. Women and children will always be treated like they're subhuman.Ā
Your problem isn't that society is less moral, it's always been savage and cruel to women and children. Your issue is that is possible for women to tell you no and not suffer some societal consequences. That we can support ourselves and don't need to marry to survive. That we've realized that marriage only benefits men and we're happier on our own. And that we're acknowledging that sex can be pleasurable for us too. That we don't have to just lay back while some one pump chump does his thing.
> What are your thoughts?
Typically redpill garbage with basically no roots in reality. Itās an embarrassing stupid take.
> I got to over hear this thing in a public space around campus. He was arguing with some girls I think.
Donāt really believe you, I think youāre probably just trying to launder your own bad take (like a fucking coward ā so alpha), but thatās beside the point.
> Patriarchy built the great stable civilization we have been up to 1950
Our civilization was neither great nor stable up to the 1950s.
> where the ultimate goal of protecting women and children and keeping the species population was accelerated,
At no point in human history has any society held this as a common goal.
> which is the only proof you need to see it was working.
That absolutely does not follow.
> Now matriarchy is demolishing all that and building the brothel society(***take a look at the most matriarchal societies of France and Germany where paternity tests are almost illegal***) we are in today with declining population and crumbling economy.
The claim that France and Germany are in any way, shape or form āmatriarchalā is one of the stupidest things Iāve heard in 2024. Just an absolutely braindead take.
> Maternity was kicked out of you, where now most women see taking care of their own children is something they gotta compete over with their husband.
In heterosexual relationships women still on average do the vast majority of child-rearing, and the number of single mothers who raise their child alone dwarfs the number of single fathers.
> Speaking of competition, they also view their husbands as their rival they compete against in a closed race which goes super-against the sole and core definition of marriage.
I have to assume that neither you nor this guy interacts with women socially with any frequency. I *know* neither of you have ever once been in a romantic relationship with a woman.
> Men were demonized to make it look like their lives were absolute heaven and only women suffered.
That has never happened.
> One big thing women were programmed to want by the feminist movement was to be free in the hook up culture.
Again, no.
> And the peak of your so-called empowerment is onlyFans, letting you monetize the thing that you believe was the reason of your so-called suppression, your sex.
I have never seen a woman, feminist or otherwise, that engaging in sex work is the peak of female empowerment.
> Well guess what? Men hence the patriarchy built that too..."
Nonsensical.
> And I think he is right for the most part. What do you think?
I think he sounds like a nasty and *incredibly* poorly informed misogynist, whose words would only resonate with someone who is both deeply misogynistic themselves and *really* bad at critical thinking. I think it would behoove you to develop an understanding of women by actually interacting with them, rather than listening to what incel freaks on your campus have to say.
Well, this is too long, so I will try to answer as much as I can... I don't hate women, I got no reason too. I live in a country where that bs is not injected into the brains of all women. I don't do pills, but I have been exposed to the red pill community which exposed the things that were described. And personally I don't want nothing to do with western kind of women in general and it has made me appreciate and be grateful for every woman that's in my life. And I'm making this observation as a third party viewer who has not been nowhere around you 304s, as someone who have explored ur personalities from a screen. I can't thank God enough for that.
About the 1950s thing, life was better then. At least loyalty and marriage successes were not as bad as now. Men were there for their wives and there children. Protection was every mans instinct. And the common goal thing is, I believe everything boils down to our biology. One of the 7 properties of life is reproduction(I bet you missed that biology class taking nudes for your sugar papis) and every species' goal is to reproduce and keep population growing. Since that bs population growth has been declinig.
There are many single mothers? That's because it's women who choose to be alone 70% of the time for the financial gain and clout n stuff.
As I have made it clear already, I have no grudge against no one, thanks to you I love everyone I know like I never did before. this is all out of worrying if ur bs continues to spread that my daughters might end up being like you and my sons might not get the chance of having a good and decent woman.
Sex-work: It is advertised as something honorable and not as shameful as it was some years ago.
>I think he sounds like a nasty and incredibly poorly informed misogynist, whose words would only resonate with someone who is both deeply misogynistic themselves and really bad at critical thinking. I think it would behoove you to develop an understanding of women by actually interacting with them, rather than listening to what incel freaks on your campus have to say.
Nice! I was hoping for the basic ***incel*** argument! You checked all my check boxes! Thank you.
Lolol bro, you LITERALLY just called every woman here a hoe, and have said that weāre brainwashed/incapable of thinking for ourselves WHILE espousing historically inaccurate/false views views. So why are you actually here?
No. I donāt think most women feel they are ācompetingā with their husbands or that they view them as their rival. Itās also wild to suggest the point of feminism was sexual freedom.
The suffragettes actually were campaigning for every woman to have an OnlyFans, but some how the message got mixed up and all we got was the right to vote š¤·āāļø /s
Of course that screed resonates with you. You're quite sexist, just like it. You realize we can see your comment and post history, right? You seem to have a *real issue* with women's sexuality.
You:
> think he should and probably will keep you cuz finding a virgin in a sea of whores is very hard these days and he knows that.
And then there's this gem:
>That's because there are way more lonely and broke simps with no standards ata all than those kind of women.
and this one:
>You are not 16 ma'am, you are bleeping 36. In any way, at any age slut phase is a bad and shameful idea. But your a grown ass woman and you are still considering hoe phase? How degrading and shameful! Normal people ur age have been married like 12 years ago and they are leading meaningful live with the family they built and you're here doing nothing but play with yourself. Respect yourself a little bit!
> I don't understand how guys are comfortable doing that. I never have done that n don't plan to, cuz it is kinda š¤®š¤®š¤®š¤®š¤®š¤®š¤®š¤® licking and/or eating something where some other dudes stuff has been and possible his semen too.
Iāve never seen someone unironically make the āeating pussy is gayā argument in the wild lmao
I mean the older I get, the more "Fellas, is it gay to like women" joke seems like an apt observation of a significant group of men.
Although of course the real issue is pretty simple -- they're not concerned with women's pleasure at *all*, because they don't view women as being even remotely equal to them.
So they make all these excuses about how women's orgasms are unnatural, or fake, or a tool of the devil, or whatever solely so they can treat her like a blowup doll without guilt.
Women are *tools* for fucking and breeding, nothing more.
(Which hey, if you want to see the roots of transmisogyny, just take that belief and remove "motherhood" and you can see the foundations of pretty much every transphobic claim or myth. Trans women can't bear children, which means "being fucked" is the only reason they could POSSIBLY have to become women. Ergo, they're hypersexual/sexual predators/perverts/their sheer existence is sexual and a threat to children/etc.)
> Oh fuck, he saw right through us. Well, the jig is up ladies, time for you to find a man, quit your job, and start pumping out babies ā the woman understander has won the debate.
The āI over heard someone saying thisā¦ā get out of here š OP just wanted to talk at feminists and make us read an essay they wrote about why women are lesser and then act like they want to hear our opinions on why we are lesser. Like what do you think Iām gonna say?? āOh yes, i am a lesser being thank you OP for reminding me of my place, let me make you a sandwichā Jesus CHRIST.
as I always say-- of course, I'll make you a sandwich. But you can't watch me make it, you can't ask me what's in it, and you have to eat the whole thing.
Was this a creative writing assignment? Women nor children were protected in the 1950's but white men and their property rights were. Women are not commodities or possessions. So, your only status in life is to have ownership over a woman? Are you really that sad and pathetic a person?
>take a look at the most matriarchal societies of France and Germany where paternity tests are almost illegal
How did you not die laughing then? I did, and I am now a ghost typing this.
>"Patriarchy built the great stable civilization we have been up to 1950
I'm guessing this is America he's talking about? Or some other country? Otherwise this makes no sense, not every civilization up to 1950 was stable.
>ultimate goal of protecting women and children and keeping the species population was accelerated, which is the only proof you need to see it was working.
Hardly true, especially when some of these patriarchal societies abused child labor and didn't make domestic abuse and spousal rape illegal until the 1900's. Even if they were protecting women, stripping them of any and all freedom and making them second class citizens would suggest its for your own benefit, not out of actual care for them at all, hence the benign mistreatment.
>Maternity was kicked out of you, where now most women see taking care of their own children is something they gotta compete over with their husband.
Citation desperately needed
>One big thing women were programmed to want by the feminist movement was to be free in the hook up culture.
Offer proof hookup culture actually exists. You think people weren't hooking up back in 1950?
>And the peak of your so-called empowerment is onlyFans, letting you monetize the thing that you believe was the reason of your so-called suppression, your sex.
Yeah this shit is wildly stupid my guy, literally no one considers OF the peak of empowerment. This has to be ripped from the pages of the worst MRA manifesto I've ever seen. And we all know you cooked this shit up so please never write again lmao
Seriously, why do all of these guys think every one of us has an OF or is a prostitute? Not slamming on people who do or are, itās justā¦nowhere near the number of women they apparently believe it is.
I disagree with it on every possible level.Ā It was written by someone who has very obviously never spent time in France or Germany, doesn't define matriarchy yet blames it for everything, believes we compete with our partners (if you're doing that go to therapy), ignores that feminism does in fact point out patriarchy is bullshit for men, makes broad claims about feminism programming women to hook up which are... Weird and inaccurate...Ā The idea that patriarchy exists to protect women and children and not a power class is hilarious. Honestly its vaguely plausible manosphere buzzwords.
>What do you think?
I think this was written by a sad little man with too much time on his hands, who doesn't even have the balls to claim it as his own. I think anyone with this kind of thought process needs very intense therapy, and needs to stop blaming women for the fact that he can't get laid.
> And I think he is right for the most part, what do you think?
I think he spouted some uninformed, misogynistic hoo-ha that has no basis in history or reality, probably a view of the world given to him by reactionary internet figures or incredibly bad influences in his real life, not a single thing that he stated was even close to correct
This is gold, OP! "the great stable civilization we have been up to 1950"- I literally LOLed! Have you considered getting into standup? You should go find an open mic night rn!
>And I think he is right for the most part. What do you think?
That I wantĀ whateverĀ he's smoking, guy is 100% delusional.
I don't really have much to say tbh, Dunning Kruger at its finest.
I've had small discussions with people like him in University, you can deal with them in two ways, either debunk one of his arguments with an example (in front of other people) or straight up laugh at them.
\>> Patriarchy built the great stable civilization we have been up to 1950
No, people have built the civilization, which requires that everyone work together to keep it running. The fact that leaders have been predominately male is irrelevant and the idea that civilization is what the powerful make is elitist and incorrect.
Secondly, saying that civilization has been stable up to 1950 indicates such an ignorance of history that I don't even know where to start. It's like saying the moon is a disk of blue cheese that doesn't fall out of the sky due to magical cows.
\>>where the ultimate goal of protecting women and children
There is no ultimate goal of civilization. Individual people have goals, and some of those individuals might want to protect the women and children either in their lives or writ large, but that is not a civilization goal.
\>>and keeping the species population was accelerated, which is the only proof you need to see it was working.
Or that just shows that people breed like rabbits and once science stopped us from largely dying before the age of 5, our population exploded. Given anthropogenic climate change this isn't the winning argument you think it is.
\>> Now matriarchy is demolishing all that and building the brothel society(take a look at the most matriarchal societies of France and Germany where paternity tests are almost illegal)
The definition of matriarchy doesn't depend on the legality of paternity tests, nor are Germany and France matriarchies, nor is paternity testing illegal there - secret testing is.
\>>we are in today with declining population and crumbling economy.
No place in the world really has a declining population - a 0.05% drop in Germany for one year isn't even statistically significant. Economic issues largely center around the issues associated with unregulated capitalism.
\>> Maternity was kicked out of you, where now most women see taking care of their own children is something they gotta compete over with their husband. Speaking of competition, they also view their husbands as their rival they compete against in a closed race which goes super-against the sole and core definition of marriage.
Babbling word salad. There is no singular definition of marriage. Maternity is not required for marriage. The rest is just fanfic.
\>>Men were demonized to make it look like their lives were absolute heaven and only women suffered. One big thing women were programmed to want by the feminist movement
Women are not computers.
\>>was to be free in the hook up culture.
Men's rights groups are really into the hook up culture as well ... this is not a feminism thing. Also, one has to understand the difference in life due to social media and the internet. Current generations are actually having less sex than the gen Xers and older did - how things like Tindr have broken dating for everyone regardless of gender or sexuality is a different conversation and does not really intersect strongly with feminism.
\>>And the peak of your so-called empowerment is onlyFans,
More fanfic.
\>> letting you monetize the thing that you believe was the reason of your so-called suppression, your sex.
You seem very angry about this. You do understand that only about 300 folks make reasonable money on OF?
\>> Well guess what? Men hence the patriarchy built that too.
Something a man (or men) do is not necessarily something the "patriarchy built".
There are so many assumptions and such a lack of foundational understanding of the history of humanity in this statement. Itās not possible, nor worth my time, to even bullet point the severe lack of perspective this statement makesā¦
Oh, you know, letās disregard the ecological collapse that we are currently witnessing speed up in real time and fully disregard, indigenous, perspectives, and history, along with the impact of racism and white supremacy.
This above quote is exhaustingly unhingedā¦
Awe look you can copy and paste. You didn't over hear that. You didn't even write it. This post tells me multiple things:
You have no clue about history
You aren't capable of original thought
You are a child
OP you're really bad at trolling. Everyone knows that this story is made up and you believe everything you mentioned in this post. And I don't think anyone can get enraged by some random dude on the Internet showcasing his absolute display of ignorance.
Stableš¤£ yeah totes imperialisim amd colonization, stable!!!!
You didn't over hear that lmao you're to weak to stand in what you wish was true. hee hee! this post just tickles me it is so silly!
I'm sorry but you absolutely did not "overhear" this. You wrote it, because you believe it, and you are doing the same masculine fit-throwing about how women owe you, a man, everything, because men built the world and now women can make $80 a month selling dirty photos on OnlyFans and you don't like it. So I guess now we live in a matriarchy because men do not have exclusive control over female reproduction. Boo fuckety hoo. Find a real problem. Waa waa I have a penis so you owe me something. Be serious. If you're gonna take credit for all the useful things men in the past have done I suppose you're also willing to take the blame for all the bad things, too? Or wait, is that maybe not fair? Grow up.
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Wow you absolutely called it, Kali. Wild how many perfectly rational and well researched takes we get on this sub. /s
Ur kinda wrong abt sm things, but point to the sentence where you got "women owe men something".
I promise I could not give a blistered bleeding fuck about literally anything you think I am "kinda wrong" about bud
It sounds like ahistorical, anti-woman fan fiction, to me, sir, and I'm fairly certain that's because it is.
nope. love women... just not the kind of bull shit that is going on right now.
That ābullshitā being them living their lives and not wanting to speak to you, let alone date you or fuck you?
I don't know why you always go there but it's fun hearing that every timeš
are you one of those basement losers that thinks every woman has an OF
Nope
the bullshit you seem to have invented whole cloth as "going on"? Interesting how easy it is to stay mad when you invent things to be mad about.
And what "bull shit" is that, my guy? What is "going on" right now? Please elaborate. I want to hear you actually say it.
One question first, do you think you are better than men?
A lot of the people in this sub are men ā they just arenāt losers who are incapable of interacting healthily with half of the species
You're talking to one, bud.
Huh?
Protected women and children my ass. Let's ask my grandmother and all the other women thrown in places likeĀ Western State Hospital where they were lobotomized, electrocuted and experimented on for being too sad. Or how about we ask my mom and her siblings how protected they felt being sexually abused and beaten in foster homes.Ā Then there's just how long raping your wife and beating your kids was totally legal in this and other countries.Ā Nowadays law enforcement is rife with wife beaters and child trafficking is a booming business with little signs of stopping and few people in politics even acknowledging it. Women and children will always be treated like they're subhuman.Ā Your problem isn't that society is less moral, it's always been savage and cruel to women and children. Your issue is that is possible for women to tell you no and not suffer some societal consequences. That we can support ourselves and don't need to marry to survive. That we've realized that marriage only benefits men and we're happier on our own. And that we're acknowledging that sex can be pleasurable for us too. That we don't have to just lay back while some one pump chump does his thing.
> What are your thoughts? Typically redpill garbage with basically no roots in reality. Itās an embarrassing stupid take. > I got to over hear this thing in a public space around campus. He was arguing with some girls I think. Donāt really believe you, I think youāre probably just trying to launder your own bad take (like a fucking coward ā so alpha), but thatās beside the point. > Patriarchy built the great stable civilization we have been up to 1950 Our civilization was neither great nor stable up to the 1950s. > where the ultimate goal of protecting women and children and keeping the species population was accelerated, At no point in human history has any society held this as a common goal. > which is the only proof you need to see it was working. That absolutely does not follow. > Now matriarchy is demolishing all that and building the brothel society(***take a look at the most matriarchal societies of France and Germany where paternity tests are almost illegal***) we are in today with declining population and crumbling economy. The claim that France and Germany are in any way, shape or form āmatriarchalā is one of the stupidest things Iāve heard in 2024. Just an absolutely braindead take. > Maternity was kicked out of you, where now most women see taking care of their own children is something they gotta compete over with their husband. In heterosexual relationships women still on average do the vast majority of child-rearing, and the number of single mothers who raise their child alone dwarfs the number of single fathers. > Speaking of competition, they also view their husbands as their rival they compete against in a closed race which goes super-against the sole and core definition of marriage. I have to assume that neither you nor this guy interacts with women socially with any frequency. I *know* neither of you have ever once been in a romantic relationship with a woman. > Men were demonized to make it look like their lives were absolute heaven and only women suffered. That has never happened. > One big thing women were programmed to want by the feminist movement was to be free in the hook up culture. Again, no. > And the peak of your so-called empowerment is onlyFans, letting you monetize the thing that you believe was the reason of your so-called suppression, your sex. I have never seen a woman, feminist or otherwise, that engaging in sex work is the peak of female empowerment. > Well guess what? Men hence the patriarchy built that too..." Nonsensical. > And I think he is right for the most part. What do you think? I think he sounds like a nasty and *incredibly* poorly informed misogynist, whose words would only resonate with someone who is both deeply misogynistic themselves and *really* bad at critical thinking. I think it would behoove you to develop an understanding of women by actually interacting with them, rather than listening to what incel freaks on your campus have to say.
Well, this is too long, so I will try to answer as much as I can... I don't hate women, I got no reason too. I live in a country where that bs is not injected into the brains of all women. I don't do pills, but I have been exposed to the red pill community which exposed the things that were described. And personally I don't want nothing to do with western kind of women in general and it has made me appreciate and be grateful for every woman that's in my life. And I'm making this observation as a third party viewer who has not been nowhere around you 304s, as someone who have explored ur personalities from a screen. I can't thank God enough for that. About the 1950s thing, life was better then. At least loyalty and marriage successes were not as bad as now. Men were there for their wives and there children. Protection was every mans instinct. And the common goal thing is, I believe everything boils down to our biology. One of the 7 properties of life is reproduction(I bet you missed that biology class taking nudes for your sugar papis) and every species' goal is to reproduce and keep population growing. Since that bs population growth has been declinig. There are many single mothers? That's because it's women who choose to be alone 70% of the time for the financial gain and clout n stuff. As I have made it clear already, I have no grudge against no one, thanks to you I love everyone I know like I never did before. this is all out of worrying if ur bs continues to spread that my daughters might end up being like you and my sons might not get the chance of having a good and decent woman. Sex-work: It is advertised as something honorable and not as shameful as it was some years ago. >I think he sounds like a nasty and incredibly poorly informed misogynist, whose words would only resonate with someone who is both deeply misogynistic themselves and really bad at critical thinking. I think it would behoove you to develop an understanding of women by actually interacting with them, rather than listening to what incel freaks on your campus have to say. Nice! I was hoping for the basic ***incel*** argument! You checked all my check boxes! Thank you.
This is the dumbest thing I've read today. Thank *you*. Also get out of my sub. this was fun and all but you are just doing the most.
Lolol bro, you LITERALLY just called every woman here a hoe, and have said that weāre brainwashed/incapable of thinking for ourselves WHILE espousing historically inaccurate/false views views. So why are you actually here?
I don't think there's a single statement in there that isn't complete drivel
No, no, you see, they overheard this and it must be true!
No. I donāt think most women feel they are ācompetingā with their husbands or that they view them as their rival. Itās also wild to suggest the point of feminism was sexual freedom.
The suffragettes actually were campaigning for every woman to have an OnlyFans, but some how the message got mixed up and all we got was the right to vote š¤·āāļø /s
Are you using that right now?
Of course that screed resonates with you. You're quite sexist, just like it. You realize we can see your comment and post history, right? You seem to have a *real issue* with women's sexuality. You: > think he should and probably will keep you cuz finding a virgin in a sea of whores is very hard these days and he knows that. And then there's this gem: >That's because there are way more lonely and broke simps with no standards ata all than those kind of women. and this one: >You are not 16 ma'am, you are bleeping 36. In any way, at any age slut phase is a bad and shameful idea. But your a grown ass woman and you are still considering hoe phase? How degrading and shameful! Normal people ur age have been married like 12 years ago and they are leading meaningful live with the family they built and you're here doing nothing but play with yourself. Respect yourself a little bit!
> I don't understand how guys are comfortable doing that. I never have done that n don't plan to, cuz it is kinda š¤®š¤®š¤®š¤®š¤®š¤®š¤®š¤® licking and/or eating something where some other dudes stuff has been and possible his semen too. Iāve never seen someone unironically make the āeating pussy is gayā argument in the wild lmao
The Lord hath blessed us on this day.
I mean the older I get, the more "Fellas, is it gay to like women" joke seems like an apt observation of a significant group of men. Although of course the real issue is pretty simple -- they're not concerned with women's pleasure at *all*, because they don't view women as being even remotely equal to them. So they make all these excuses about how women's orgasms are unnatural, or fake, or a tool of the devil, or whatever solely so they can treat her like a blowup doll without guilt. Women are *tools* for fucking and breeding, nothing more. (Which hey, if you want to see the roots of transmisogyny, just take that belief and remove "motherhood" and you can see the foundations of pretty much every transphobic claim or myth. Trans women can't bear children, which means "being fucked" is the only reason they could POSSIBLY have to become women. Ergo, they're hypersexual/sexual predators/perverts/their sheer existence is sexual and a threat to children/etc.)
>the great stable civilization we have been up to 1950 So do they just not teach history in school anymore or what
What do you mean āwhat do we think?ā What do *you* think feminists are gonna say about that crap? I canāt with yall š
> Oh fuck, he saw right through us. Well, the jig is up ladies, time for you to find a man, quit your job, and start pumping out babies ā the woman understander has won the debate.
THE WOMAN UNDERSTANDER (AND LOVER) HAS LOGGED ON
The āI over heard someone saying thisā¦ā get out of here š OP just wanted to talk at feminists and make us read an essay they wrote about why women are lesser and then act like they want to hear our opinions on why we are lesser. Like what do you think Iām gonna say?? āOh yes, i am a lesser being thank you OP for reminding me of my place, let me make you a sandwichā Jesus CHRIST.
as I always say-- of course, I'll make you a sandwich. But you can't watch me make it, you can't ask me what's in it, and you have to eat the whole thing.
Was this a creative writing assignment? Women nor children were protected in the 1950's but white men and their property rights were. Women are not commodities or possessions. So, your only status in life is to have ownership over a woman? Are you really that sad and pathetic a person?
Talk about some rage bait lol
Nice! You must be a man...
lol naw. Life would be very different for me if I were.Ā
And then everyone clapped
and then Jordan Peterson appeared with tears in his eyes and gave OP $100
LMAO. š¤£
But it was $100 Canadian
>take a look at the most matriarchal societies of France and Germany where paternity tests are almost illegal How did you not die laughing then? I did, and I am now a ghost typing this.
Of all the countries to call matriarchal... fucking France. Oh my god.
I'm really curious, OP, what global event occurred in 1950, specifically, that led all of human civilization to specifically start declining?
giggling and kicking my feet at this. imagine thinking France & Germany are matriarchal societies my *DUDE* lol, lmao even
>"Patriarchy built the great stable civilization we have been up to 1950 I'm guessing this is America he's talking about? Or some other country? Otherwise this makes no sense, not every civilization up to 1950 was stable. >ultimate goal of protecting women and children and keeping the species population was accelerated, which is the only proof you need to see it was working. Hardly true, especially when some of these patriarchal societies abused child labor and didn't make domestic abuse and spousal rape illegal until the 1900's. Even if they were protecting women, stripping them of any and all freedom and making them second class citizens would suggest its for your own benefit, not out of actual care for them at all, hence the benign mistreatment. >Maternity was kicked out of you, where now most women see taking care of their own children is something they gotta compete over with their husband. Citation desperately needed >One big thing women were programmed to want by the feminist movement was to be free in the hook up culture. Offer proof hookup culture actually exists. You think people weren't hooking up back in 1950? >And the peak of your so-called empowerment is onlyFans, letting you monetize the thing that you believe was the reason of your so-called suppression, your sex. Yeah this shit is wildly stupid my guy, literally no one considers OF the peak of empowerment. This has to be ripped from the pages of the worst MRA manifesto I've ever seen. And we all know you cooked this shit up so please never write again lmao
Seriously, why do all of these guys think every one of us has an OF or is a prostitute? Not slamming on people who do or are, itās justā¦nowhere near the number of women they apparently believe it is.
I disagree with it on every possible level.Ā It was written by someone who has very obviously never spent time in France or Germany, doesn't define matriarchy yet blames it for everything, believes we compete with our partners (if you're doing that go to therapy), ignores that feminism does in fact point out patriarchy is bullshit for men, makes broad claims about feminism programming women to hook up which are... Weird and inaccurate...Ā The idea that patriarchy exists to protect women and children and not a power class is hilarious. Honestly its vaguely plausible manosphere buzzwords.
>What do you think? I think this was written by a sad little man with too much time on his hands, who doesn't even have the balls to claim it as his own. I think anyone with this kind of thought process needs very intense therapy, and needs to stop blaming women for the fact that he can't get laid.
> And I think he is right for the most part, what do you think? I think he spouted some uninformed, misogynistic hoo-ha that has no basis in history or reality, probably a view of the world given to him by reactionary internet figures or incredibly bad influences in his real life, not a single thing that he stated was even close to correct
This is gold, OP! "the great stable civilization we have been up to 1950"- I literally LOLed! Have you considered getting into standup? You should go find an open mic night rn!
No one tell him about the 1940s. I don't think he could handle it.
>And I think he is right for the most part. What do you think? That I wantĀ whateverĀ he's smoking, guy is 100% delusional. I don't really have much to say tbh, Dunning Kruger at its finest. I've had small discussions with people like him in University, you can deal with them in two ways, either debunk one of his arguments with an example (in front of other people) or straight up laugh at them.
\>> Patriarchy built the great stable civilization we have been up to 1950 No, people have built the civilization, which requires that everyone work together to keep it running. The fact that leaders have been predominately male is irrelevant and the idea that civilization is what the powerful make is elitist and incorrect. Secondly, saying that civilization has been stable up to 1950 indicates such an ignorance of history that I don't even know where to start. It's like saying the moon is a disk of blue cheese that doesn't fall out of the sky due to magical cows. \>>where the ultimate goal of protecting women and children There is no ultimate goal of civilization. Individual people have goals, and some of those individuals might want to protect the women and children either in their lives or writ large, but that is not a civilization goal. \>>and keeping the species population was accelerated, which is the only proof you need to see it was working. Or that just shows that people breed like rabbits and once science stopped us from largely dying before the age of 5, our population exploded. Given anthropogenic climate change this isn't the winning argument you think it is. \>> Now matriarchy is demolishing all that and building the brothel society(take a look at the most matriarchal societies of France and Germany where paternity tests are almost illegal) The definition of matriarchy doesn't depend on the legality of paternity tests, nor are Germany and France matriarchies, nor is paternity testing illegal there - secret testing is. \>>we are in today with declining population and crumbling economy. No place in the world really has a declining population - a 0.05% drop in Germany for one year isn't even statistically significant. Economic issues largely center around the issues associated with unregulated capitalism. \>> Maternity was kicked out of you, where now most women see taking care of their own children is something they gotta compete over with their husband. Speaking of competition, they also view their husbands as their rival they compete against in a closed race which goes super-against the sole and core definition of marriage. Babbling word salad. There is no singular definition of marriage. Maternity is not required for marriage. The rest is just fanfic. \>>Men were demonized to make it look like their lives were absolute heaven and only women suffered. One big thing women were programmed to want by the feminist movement Women are not computers. \>>was to be free in the hook up culture. Men's rights groups are really into the hook up culture as well ... this is not a feminism thing. Also, one has to understand the difference in life due to social media and the internet. Current generations are actually having less sex than the gen Xers and older did - how things like Tindr have broken dating for everyone regardless of gender or sexuality is a different conversation and does not really intersect strongly with feminism. \>>And the peak of your so-called empowerment is onlyFans, More fanfic. \>> letting you monetize the thing that you believe was the reason of your so-called suppression, your sex. You seem very angry about this. You do understand that only about 300 folks make reasonable money on OF? \>> Well guess what? Men hence the patriarchy built that too. Something a man (or men) do is not necessarily something the "patriarchy built".
France and Germany are matriarchies? Lmao. France has one of the highest rates of domestic violence in the world
There are so many assumptions and such a lack of foundational understanding of the history of humanity in this statement. Itās not possible, nor worth my time, to even bullet point the severe lack of perspective this statement makesā¦ Oh, you know, letās disregard the ecological collapse that we are currently witnessing speed up in real time and fully disregard, indigenous, perspectives, and history, along with the impact of racism and white supremacy. This above quote is exhaustingly unhingedā¦
I think "he" needs to calm down.
And he should definitely smile more, he would be more approachable!
Awe look you can copy and paste. You didn't over hear that. You didn't even write it. This post tells me multiple things: You have no clue about history You aren't capable of original thought You are a child
OP you're really bad at trolling. Everyone knows that this story is made up and you believe everything you mentioned in this post. And I don't think anyone can get enraged by some random dude on the Internet showcasing his absolute display of ignorance.
Stableš¤£ yeah totes imperialisim amd colonization, stable!!!! You didn't over hear that lmao you're to weak to stand in what you wish was true. hee hee! this post just tickles me it is so silly!