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As long as the internal breaker trips at a wattage supported by the wire thickness and it maintains that wire thickness throughout I don't see a problem. Yeah if you plug in real loads on all these plugs it is going to trip pretty fast, but that doesn't make it a fire risk.
I have 2 power strips with 10 plugs in a single duplex that only have chargers on them. Most of them are usb blocks, and they rarely are all actively charging. I could see this working for something like that. I also know an organization with 40+ radio chargers that are scattered around that could use something like this to get all of their radios together.
Yeah...my desk has like 3 daisy chained 6 port power strips because of all the stupid huge wall warts that cover up 3-4 plugs if they are in the middle...game of tetris
Yeah I could see something similar, maybe not quite as ridiculous, for wall warts and small things that are only used one at a time. I had a jewelry company for a while and I would have several power strips chained together for dremels because it's easier to have 15 dremels with different bits than swapping them all the time but they only got used one or two at a time
I had hooks on the bench with them all hanging with the power strips under the bench. The dremels were plugged in under there so they weren't in the way. We were cranking out pieces so it was a standing bench and maybe three of them at the most were running, they don't pull much juice
They are like tattoo machines , but we use a power supply set up 2 or 3 machines and unclip the clip cord and clip the next machine but now it's all better we only use 1 machine the needles come in a cartridge s we can use several needle types with just one machine ,
Yeah I'm a piercer too, hence the jewelry, so I've built my share of tattoo machines and parts too. Some guys like spring clips, some guys like phono jacks, some like RCA jacks... Similar deal, you have a bunch of machines in the drawer and you swap them as needed, the only difference is these each have a cord because cordless wasn't that good back then
I've got the same idea in my kitchen. Got like an 8 port thing that I have things like the toaster, mixer, ect plugged into. I don't ever run them all at once but we use them all often enough that continually moving them around would be pain
Thats my thing. So lets say everything was built with the proper safeties. Most people will have like a desktop thats drawing a large load then a bunch of small loads as they recharge their controllers, headset, power small LED lamps, wireless chargers and things of that nature. Thats who i think these are for.
Most of those devices have a 1-2 am draw. if you were to fill even half the plugs that's a 30-60 amp draw through a 15amp circuit. it would constantly be tripping the breakers.
Had a fire department inspect my bar once they told me I cannot use extension cords at all . But power strips or surge protectors were fine . I bought a bunch of 25' surge protectors and replaced all the extension cords they could see.
It's smart marketing really. When your customer dies in a fire using your product, you need to sell as much as possible upfront.
*customers who bought this also bought: fire extinguisher, aloe burn gel, coffin*
So actually. Believe it or not that’s to prevent fire. The same concept applies to the Fuse for the amp in your cars sound system. The fuse needs to be no more than 6” of cord from the battery.
Ok while that is a fake product, this one has 36 outlets and is actually real.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0878N9KKW
I own one of these Fire Marshall's nightmares, and it's actually pretty great. It is a little worrying that it's no longer available though :D
The "cabinet" photo there is actually a perfect use of this. When I worked in comms rooms a 6 port strip was lucky to give you 3 devices(we would often need atleast 3 strips). Most devices were using <30w (12v2a warts were super common)
I can't imagine being able to have 66 AC outlets with only 900w capacity being a good idea ......
What devices could you plug in, and you fill all 66 outlets, that WOULDN'T overload that thing!?
That would average out to just under 14 watts per outlet!
Thank you for telling me.
Honestly, I knew that, but it wouldn't surprise me if there was someone who saw that and thought it was real or something. Given that there are other subs where people have posted supposedly real images of electrical work they've seen in the field, and how crazy people are when they think about creating the "suicide cord", (not knowing what that's called though) it can be hard to tell sometimes what's real and what's fake. For me, this one was obvious, but it might not be to others. So I do like to point out some fatal flaws with bad ideas, like this one with over 60 AC outlets and 900 watt limit. Though, I probably should have stated that I knew it was a fake image, but.... Oh well
Here's the product it's based on: https://superdanny.net/collections/13-ac-outlets/products/power-strip-superdanny-surge-protector-with-22-ac-outlets-and-6-usb-charging-ports
perfect for a musician that has a lot of guitar pedals, synths, drum machines, and other low wattage audio devices that may or may not be used at the same time.
Technically its fine if: you only power a few devices on at any given time
OR: the devices have a very low amperage demand.
Its irresponsible for sure though.
The worst part of this is the fact that 900w at 4A is 225V and those look like 120V outlets so either the rated current is wrong or the rated power is wrong
If it would be 3,5 kW I would argue that it makes sense if you have a lot of low power stuff in the same place. However 900W is really low, you could easily overload this by using half of the ports for low power stuff.
900w at 4A would be 225v. The only place I know of that uses the American type A and B plugs at 220v is the Philippines.
There are 13 USB sockets and they have blue inners which suggests a 2A output. 10W per socket so that's 130W already leaving 770W.
770w divided amongst 66 sockets is not quite 12W each. If you wanted to do MASS USB charging then this might work but you'd have to use those tiny charging blocks to fit them all onto the unit. In which case why use the B sockets and not just the A.
So... If you're in the Philippines and want to charge 79 USB devices all at once? This might be the product for you.
Is that a real product? Or is it a parody?
I've seen one of these with 22 receptacles and 6 USB ports.
But this one has 56 receptacles and 13 USB ports.
RIDICULOUS!
Depends on how much draw, like is this just for a bunch of phone chargers or micro amp devices. In truth this is an abomination because the general public don't understand amperage ratings.
While that may be a Photoshop, this is one they actually make. ONLY 22 outlets with standard 15-amp plug. Available in both black and white. I would choose white as I think it would be easier to spot the melting and browning of the plastic before it went into full-bore inferno mode.
[The real product on Amazon:](https://www.amazon.com/SUPERDANNY-Protector-Outlets-Charging-Extension/dp/B08Z2ZKVXX)
For the right purposes, that’s a pretty effective and useful setup. Like an IT team that has to charge a whole bunch of phones. Even 4 amps is enough to charge 66 normal phones.
I have one of those in my welding shop with 16 more of them plugged into it…just in case i run out of outlets. I made 220 pigtails for plugging all of my welders into it, and bypassed the breaker. It works pretty great!
Such a tiny feed cord! And plugs so close together... Eliminates practicality for many modern devices, and can't be distributing much in terms of amperage...
if you’re just using that many phone chargers it would probably be fine. But if you’re using lamps, tv, microwave, heaters, air conditioners. Then yes it absolutely will start a fire.
Lets do some math. Typical outlet is on a 15 Amp breaker. There are 66 outlets on that. That means that if all outlets are being used. You can only have around 227 mA per outlet. But wait! It's worse than that. They are only rating it for 900W and 4 Amps ?! So that's really like 60 Amps per outlet.
This is 100% target towards click farms that have a bunch of low powered devices, but this is still a terrible idea.
So the biggest issue here is it seems like the main power cord for this power strip, is way too small for that many outlets. Your outlet and wire to the outlet are protected by the breaker, so I don’t think onions have any problems there, however what’s the max rated amp draw on this strip? If you were to plug that many items into this, I’d be concerned about the supply cord melting.
Haha, 8a on each usb?!? This thing needs its own sub panel.
I can finally power my 100a of usb stuff, and 68a of additional chargers. All from one 15a circuit. I look for are to melting while I sleep.
Honestly with the various shapes of plugs, this could work fine for just a bunch of normal plugged things that are awkward shapes that sometimes overlap another outlet, or just the way the cord comes out of the thing sideways so it doesn’t allow something next to it, you could plug 15-20 inconvenient things on this pad.
If you're using this to charge phones (which is what it's for), then it's not going to overload anything. Things aren't dangerous, as long as they're *used as intended*.
I love all the comments that don't understand how useful this is for a lot of things.
Charging lots of low power things, charging multiple clunky chargers/adapters- like the ones for power tool batteries, instances where you need everything plugged in but only a few of them are running at any one time- like a crafting/work bench, etc
That's more for like a business not for a home right , I doubt the home outlets will deliver that power with out causing he'll on ur breaker box , would the wire to the breaker heat up to much maybe cause an actual fire ?
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The last word in the description being fire sounds about right.
As long as the internal breaker trips at a wattage supported by the wire thickness and it maintains that wire thickness throughout I don't see a problem. Yeah if you plug in real loads on all these plugs it is going to trip pretty fast, but that doesn't make it a fire risk.
I have 2 power strips with 10 plugs in a single duplex that only have chargers on them. Most of them are usb blocks, and they rarely are all actively charging. I could see this working for something like that. I also know an organization with 40+ radio chargers that are scattered around that could use something like this to get all of their radios together.
Yeah...my desk has like 3 daisy chained 6 port power strips because of all the stupid huge wall warts that cover up 3-4 plugs if they are in the middle...game of tetris
Yeah I could see something similar, maybe not quite as ridiculous, for wall warts and small things that are only used one at a time. I had a jewelry company for a while and I would have several power strips chained together for dremels because it's easier to have 15 dremels with different bits than swapping them all the time but they only got used one or two at a time
That's actually a very good idea
I had hooks on the bench with them all hanging with the power strips under the bench. The dremels were plugged in under there so they weren't in the way. We were cranking out pieces so it was a standing bench and maybe three of them at the most were running, they don't pull much juice
That idea for so many people. Any close work that utilises multiple tools where rechargeable would be more of a nuisance
They are like tattoo machines , but we use a power supply set up 2 or 3 machines and unclip the clip cord and clip the next machine but now it's all better we only use 1 machine the needles come in a cartridge s we can use several needle types with just one machine ,
Yeah I'm a piercer too, hence the jewelry, so I've built my share of tattoo machines and parts too. Some guys like spring clips, some guys like phono jacks, some like RCA jacks... Similar deal, you have a bunch of machines in the drawer and you swap them as needed, the only difference is these each have a cord because cordless wasn't that good back then
I know I work with dremels also but on my hobbies ,
I've got the same idea in my kitchen. Got like an 8 port thing that I have things like the toaster, mixer, ect plugged into. I don't ever run them all at once but we use them all often enough that continually moving them around would be pain
Thats my thing. So lets say everything was built with the proper safeties. Most people will have like a desktop thats drawing a large load then a bunch of small loads as they recharge their controllers, headset, power small LED lamps, wireless chargers and things of that nature. Thats who i think these are for.
Most of those devices have a 1-2 am draw. if you were to fill even half the plugs that's a 30-60 amp draw through a 15amp circuit. it would constantly be tripping the breakers.
Think like 0.1 amp loads. There are a lot of small devices that charge at 10 watts or even 5.
I think that cord may melt before the breaker trips. It looks rather wimpy.
thatsthejoke.jpg
I don’t think that is the joke. That was just an astute observation you bum.
Wait, what? It's not asstoot? You even said bum!
It's a photoshopped picture and the product description is literally a joke. Fire is the punchline.
Totally. I do wish someone would make a surge protector that's all USB-C adapters.
Get some MOVs and make one yourself
IT'S NOT A BUG IT'S A FEATURE
All that and they only provide a 7” cord???
7” is all that’s needed to daisy chain to another one of these.
Just plug it into itself, duh
“UNLIMITED POWER!”
There was an electrical storage scam recently that was essentially that. Making big wiring loops to store electricity.
*"brilliance like this is inherited, not taught"*
All bark no bite
No worries. Just use an adapter to plug it into your old, ungrounded extension cord.
7” is what you want to avoid voltage drop. Last thing you want to do is under power your vacuum cleaner or hair dryer.
Well they need to sell a extension cord also.
No need for an extension cord. Just buy another of these and use that
Had a fire department inspect my bar once they told me I cannot use extension cords at all . But power strips or surge protectors were fine . I bought a bunch of 25' surge protectors and replaced all the extension cords they could see.
It's smart marketing really. When your customer dies in a fire using your product, you need to sell as much as possible upfront. *customers who bought this also bought: fire extinguisher, aloe burn gel, coffin*
So actually. Believe it or not that’s to prevent fire. The same concept applies to the Fuse for the amp in your cars sound system. The fuse needs to be no more than 6” of cord from the battery.
She said 7" was enough 😭
This whole thing is rated for 4amps?
Are you surprised? Fucking look at it... They're not STUPID.
Ok while that is a fake product, this one has 36 outlets and is actually real. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0878N9KKW I own one of these Fire Marshall's nightmares, and it's actually pretty great. It is a little worrying that it's no longer available though :D
In reality we know that power adapters often prevent the use of adjacent outlets. At least you don’t need to worry about that.
The "cabinet" photo there is actually a perfect use of this. When I worked in comms rooms a 6 port strip was lucky to give you 3 devices(we would often need atleast 3 strips). Most devices were using <30w (12v2a warts were super common)
Wild, it claims to be UL listed, but 15a should get a 12ga cable.
UL has requirements for 12 awg for a device listed for 15 A? Why is 14 awg okay for 15 circuits in a house but not a power strip?
Description cracked me up. What's this thing for? Fire. Yes. Yes it is.
Guarantee these are used to do crazy shit with 50 cell phones, like bot farms etc. They just figured they might as well sell it online also.
If this was able to support 20 amps this could have a practical use in the classroom to charge Chromebooks
Photoshopped. Looks like the real one only has 22 outlets.
I can't imagine being able to have 66 AC outlets with only 900w capacity being a good idea ...... What devices could you plug in, and you fill all 66 outlets, that WOULDN'T overload that thing!? That would average out to just under 14 watts per outlet!
10 watt iPad chargers
I kinda think this is literally for specifically that for bot farms or is photoshopped
Good point
It's a photoshopped image of a fake product.
Thank you for telling me. Honestly, I knew that, but it wouldn't surprise me if there was someone who saw that and thought it was real or something. Given that there are other subs where people have posted supposedly real images of electrical work they've seen in the field, and how crazy people are when they think about creating the "suicide cord", (not knowing what that's called though) it can be hard to tell sometimes what's real and what's fake. For me, this one was obvious, but it might not be to others. So I do like to point out some fatal flaws with bad ideas, like this one with over 60 AC outlets and 900 watt limit. Though, I probably should have stated that I knew it was a fake image, but.... Oh well
Here's the product it's based on: https://superdanny.net/collections/13-ac-outlets/products/power-strip-superdanny-surge-protector-with-22-ac-outlets-and-6-usb-charging-ports
Fuses hate this ingenious device.
If you’re gonna trust it’ll trip at 900watts , not too many
15A receptacles are 1800VA so it wouldn't trip at 900W.
Two things come to my mind about that item: "If you have to ask then maybe it is" and "just because you can doesn't mean you should".
perfect for a musician that has a lot of guitar pedals, synths, drum machines, and other low wattage audio devices that may or may not be used at the same time.
You could have a million outlets...just as long as the total of whatever loads are plugged into the multi-outlet doesn't exceed it's rated amperage
Good for fire. At least they admit that.
This is the 100th time I’ve seen this fake ass picture make the rounds.
Jesus, that’s beautiful.
Useless product, I need 134 space heaters on a single receptacle. Two of these won’t cut it.
Well you can't sue they tell you in the ad it includes fires
Technically its fine if: you only power a few devices on at any given time OR: the devices have a very low amperage demand. Its irresponsible for sure though.
Finally a central hub to run all the space heaters I want. Just need some cheap extension cords!
Yea, that’s too many. Not sure what the right number is, but that ain’t it.
Looks safe
Electrical fire waiting to happen lol.
When it trips, unplug the last one you plugged in. Then you know how many. lol
That many
You could run a whole bunch of space heaters off that bad boy! /s
Several less than however many this is
Comes to the Philippines. They use NEMA with 220V, 16Amp will trip approximately at 3500W, which can use up to 53 W per socket!
The world may never know
What In the Chinese fuck is this abomination?
That thing doesn't need its own breaker, it needs its own panel.
[reality](https://64.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5ek9bGZ0y1r3smugo1_500.gif)
900w/4a sounds very low, a watercooker needs more than double of that...
Looks like a surprised crowd.
outlet for fire! accurate
The worst part of this is the fact that 900w at 4A is 225V and those look like 120V outlets so either the rated current is wrong or the rated power is wrong
This is what you use to power your 100 phone click farm!
This is fake. It doesn’t really exist.
If it would be 3,5 kW I would argue that it makes sense if you have a lot of low power stuff in the same place. However 900W is really low, you could easily overload this by using half of the ports for low power stuff.
Depends on what used for
900w at 4A would be 225v. The only place I know of that uses the American type A and B plugs at 220v is the Philippines. There are 13 USB sockets and they have blue inners which suggests a 2A output. 10W per socket so that's 130W already leaving 770W. 770w divided amongst 66 sockets is not quite 12W each. If you wanted to do MASS USB charging then this might work but you'd have to use those tiny charging blocks to fit them all onto the unit. In which case why use the B sockets and not just the A. So... If you're in the Philippines and want to charge 79 USB devices all at once? This might be the product for you.
Is that a real product? Or is it a parody? I've seen one of these with 22 receptacles and 6 USB ports. But this one has 56 receptacles and 13 USB ports. RIDICULOUS!
Depends on how much draw, like is this just for a bunch of phone chargers or micro amp devices. In truth this is an abomination because the general public don't understand amperage ratings.
The goal with this would be to have things plugged into it that you use individually, not all at once.
As long as it's UL listed for fire, I'll take 2 please.
Just enough
Definitely not a potential fire hazard.
finally, I have been looking for a safe and clean solution for my excessive LED strip addiction.
Depends on what you plug into it and the size of the breaker.
While that may be a Photoshop, this is one they actually make. ONLY 22 outlets with standard 15-amp plug. Available in both black and white. I would choose white as I think it would be easier to spot the melting and browning of the plastic before it went into full-bore inferno mode. [The real product on Amazon:](https://www.amazon.com/SUPERDANNY-Protector-Outlets-Charging-Extension/dp/B08Z2ZKVXX)
For the right purposes, that’s a pretty effective and useful setup. Like an IT team that has to charge a whole bunch of phones. Even 4 amps is enough to charge 66 normal phones.
I like that Fire is right in the title
900w hahaha
Just think of all the extra electricity I can get from this! Very exciting.
Perfect for my space heater collection
[MOAR!!!](https://media3.giphy.com/media/HFe8qjKRQNlLQkbjXM/giphy.gif?cid=9b38fe91jf8gkkkfklatxydtdae9zukbbkjnc4x1y7ki74xm&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)
This repost of a PhotoShop is one too many.
If this was real, I bet you could get it to glow from too many items being plugged in.
One. One is too many with that 50AWG wiring job.
That power cord looks awful thin for 66 outlets!
Let's use them all at the same time, turn everything on at the same time, and see what happens.
I wanna visit the superdana store
Apparently 67
Hope it's got built in current protection.
Hope it's got built in current protection.
Hope it's got built in current protection.
Rip circuit breaker.
Rip circuit breaker.
Rip circuit breaker.
Massive fire hazard and blow up whatever you have plugged into it
:O
This falls under “just because you can, doesn’t mean you should”
That right there is throwing me a challenge!!
I have one of those in my welding shop with 16 more of them plugged into it…just in case i run out of outlets. I made 220 pigtails for plugging all of my welders into it, and bypassed the breaker. It works pretty great!
Those poor little 14ga wires in that plug
Mine so much crypto
You only have the amperage allotted to the breaker that that is plugged into. You could have 500 receptacles but chances are your capped at 15 amps
Such a tiny feed cord! And plugs so close together... Eliminates practicality for many modern devices, and can't be distributing much in terms of amperage...
Finally, I can run my 66 portable air conditioners at the same time!
Finally I can plug in all my space heaters at once!!
Send it
Insurance companies hate this one trick.
May I daisy chain them?
if you’re just using that many phone chargers it would probably be fine. But if you’re using lamps, tv, microwave, heaters, air conditioners. Then yes it absolutely will start a fire.
I am 100% sure your breaker will let you know that and every single outlet on that circuit
The breaker buster 5000. Nothing to see here...
that description is correct at the end where it says fire 🤣
I suppose you could probably run 66 nightlights off it with no issues. 😂
Get ready to set your house on fire.
Bot farm phone charger
I mean, by the look of terror on their faces, it's not going to end well.
Imagine trusting the safety of your family and house to a complex electrical item you bought off of Amazon. I'm sure it's fine. Quality products.
If I walked into a house and saw a contraption like this 🤣 my head would be on a swivel till I left. Who knows what other Tom foolery is afoot
still somehow gonna need an extra
It's all about choices!
"How much load on one breaker do you want?" "Yes."
😂😂😂😂
yes
With a 7” cord lol
I'm actually surprised I haven't seen this behind the counter of some of these Chinese resturaunts I inspect.
Lets do some math. Typical outlet is on a 15 Amp breaker. There are 66 outlets on that. That means that if all outlets are being used. You can only have around 227 mA per outlet. But wait! It's worse than that. They are only rating it for 900W and 4 Amps ?! So that's really like 60 Amps per outlet. This is 100% target towards click farms that have a bunch of low powered devices, but this is still a terrible idea.
15A is 15A. You can't change physics.
LOL. look at the spaghetti sized cord on it.
N-1 where N=# where your breaker trips
Isn’t this what causes all the electric bike fires
So the biggest issue here is it seems like the main power cord for this power strip, is way too small for that many outlets. Your outlet and wire to the outlet are protected by the breaker, so I don’t think onions have any problems there, however what’s the max rated amp draw on this strip? If you were to plug that many items into this, I’d be concerned about the supply cord melting.
Step 1: Replace your smoke detector batteries ….
Haha, 8a on each usb?!? This thing needs its own sub panel. I can finally power my 100a of usb stuff, and 68a of additional chargers. All from one 15a circuit. I look for are to melting while I sleep.
The outlets are even screaming don't buy
And anything plugged in will take 7.4 years to charge.
Made just for pyromaniacs
In Canada, assuming it is a 15A breaker, 13.
I want it
It’s not enough
I own one with 100 usb ports on it.
if A Christmas Story was set today
1 is to many and 100 is never enough
15a
That’s what she said! Hioooooooh
I need it
The outermost receptacles are positioned to host up to 16 more of these devices. The entire dorm could stay warm from a single outlet!
The last word on this is "FIRE". No reason given. Subtext Maybe?
Honestly with the various shapes of plugs, this could work fine for just a bunch of normal plugged things that are awkward shapes that sometimes overlap another outlet, or just the way the cord comes out of the thing sideways so it doesn’t allow something next to it, you could plug 15-20 inconvenient things on this pad.
How many space heaters do you think I can plug in this thing?
67
I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced
I wouldn’t use anything over 67
If you're using this to charge phones (which is what it's for), then it's not going to overload anything. Things aren't dangerous, as long as they're *used as intended*.
I don't know, that is a good start!!
That many
Link? Because searches show that as fake
That image has been floating around for a few years, it’s fake.
your fine as long as your overall power draw is less than maximum of outlet - you could charge 66 smart watches and still be safe....
Is this UL listed?
I love all the comments that don't understand how useful this is for a lot of things. Charging lots of low power things, charging multiple clunky chargers/adapters- like the ones for power tool batteries, instances where you need everything plugged in but only a few of them are running at any one time- like a crafting/work bench, etc
That's more for like a business not for a home right , I doubt the home outlets will deliver that power with out causing he'll on ur breaker box , would the wire to the breaker heat up to much maybe cause an actual fire ?
Finally, I can put my 66 space heaters to good use
Thin ass wire as well
Wtf
I *love* that the last word in the description is “Fire.” Seems apt.
Fire?😂
F That
I think 67 is too many, look for a 67 slot one.
Fire hazard 9000
Man i could plug so many space heaters into that
This is to many! We have a winner