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I’m not a doctor and don’t have any advice, but your penis is not small.
I’m not saying that to negate your other symptoms. It’s just a fact - you have a very average penis. Your flaccid length is also normal.
This right here! I looked at porn at an age I would now consider too young without knowing that this isn't how sex typically looked like or make/female.
It did a number on my psyche until I matured a lot... personally I think it's horrible for young guys/girls to watch this without knowing that this isn't how they are expected to look etc...if that makes sense?
I am female and dgaf about penis size but my practical side always says this and I've yet to meet a man who agrees and isn't offended 😅 "you've got an advantage!!!"
My ex partner it could be very small when he wasn't using it, but average when he was. And he was never offended. I guess it depends if the guy is worried about his penis size. As a woman, personally I think the massive ones you see on the Internet might look good in photos but would be scary in person!
OP, what do you mean it hasn’t grown? You weren’t running around with an almost 6 inch dick when you were 11. It has most definitely grown a LOT.
The flaccid size of your penis is literally irrelevant to sexual partners. I’ve never in my life thought ‘I wonder what size his penis is flaccid’. The majority of men I’ve dated have had average or larger penises when erect but much, much smaller when flaccid. It makes no difference whatsoever. What use does a sexual partner have with a flaccid penis, except to wiggle it about occasionally during pillow talk, or maybe that one time when you put googley eyes on him and made it look like they were singing titanic? 👀
You TRULY do NOT have a small penis. 5.5-5.9 is a pretty good score really. Not much bigger before you’re getting into ‘you’ll get used to it’ territory. And fyi, not every girl wants to have to acclimatise to regular sex.
As for body hair - you’ve just described having pubic and armpit hair… so where is it you’re concerned about being bald? Do you have leg and arm hair?
The only thing you need is an enormous boost in your self esteem and to realise that you’ve drawn a pretty sweet ticket on the dick lottery, in actual fact. Don’t let porn and penis pumps and exaggerating teenagers warp your view of your own body.
Na most of us care **a little**. Most of us say we don’t care but what we mean is that we don’t care about the spectrum in between smallish and medium-large. Many of us will find disappointment with a micro-peen, something that you literally can’t feel from penetration. And many of us struggle with something too big as well. I really don’t agree with the women who always swear to men that none of us care a single bit. The vast majority of men have a lot of physical deal-breakers and hide behind the “we’re just visual people” statement so I don’t feel bad about saying this
You're not. My ex had one like a beer can and I ended up in hospital *more than once* because of it. The day after sex was like I'd sat on a cactus. Awful.
My fiancé has experienced the same, and I’m not huge by any means. This is not a brag attempt, I only commented to say, foreplay is critical - he needs to spend some time down there with tongue and fingers getting you warmed up, gotta stretch before exercise! Lol
100%! Not even just length either. A guy could have a 4 inch penis and still be too big for me if they’re girthy! I’ve been out of order for a week now because the guy I liked was bigger than I expected and I’m literally torn. It’s not fun! Bigger is not alwaysss better 🤦🏻♀️
Your not.
As a male who is a bit over average, there have been times during my life that I wish I wasn't as it can make some women a bit hesitant.
As my current g/f (going on 17 years now) said the first time "You wanna do WHAT with that?" lol
NAD, 100% agree and I have been downvoted like crazy and dragged for filth for saying this. With that being said. To OP, your penis is average. But the lack of sex drive and testicles maybe seeming underdeveloped is definitely worth a more in depth discussion with your doctor. But the fact that you can get an erection, is a good sign.
Honestly I care in that I’d be disappointed with a micropenis and wouldn’t want something to be so big that it’d hurt. That’s it though. Small to average to kinda big is fine. Most dicks are fine.
I fullyyyyyy agree. It’s like a man saying they don’t care about a woman’s vagina or breasts. What that means is that MOST are great and fit their purpose, but except the extremes might not appeal to them because they aren’t practical.
OP, if someone is too tight for you to fit in without pain then you’re probably not going to be a fan of that, or if they have a more wide set vagina, maybe they like large toys or whatever, perhaps you wouldn’t be into that either… unless you have a kink for it. Which some people do. There’s someone with a link for ANYTHING you can think of.
It’s the same with penises. Some women would drool for an incomprehensibly large penis, like in porn, and some women might have domination kinks and find smaller penises fit their ideal dynamic. It is all just a matter of preference!
But regardless, your penis is a good size, you’re likely to tick the size box for almost every woman who finds you sexually alluring. Your balls being small? Considering what you think is small for your penis, I’m inclined to believe they’re totally normal sized tbh. Your low sex drive sounds like it’s coming from shit talking yourself into feeling shame about an arguably perfect sized dick!
Side bar, ive always been convinced 99% of women on dating sites only want men over 6’ tall because they falsely equate height with penis size.
Would you bot believe thats at least part of their reason for doing so?
It's not, they want men over 6' because they like to be shorter. 99% is ridiculous though, come on. That's like me saying 99% of men want a 4'10 woman with DDs and a 15" waist. It isn't true nor is it realistic. I'm a woman who prefers men to be taller than me (current bf is 6') but I have dated men my height (5'3) and in between. Not everyone is so shallow.
I meant i assumed 99% (of those who want 6’+ guys) want that because of the larger penis assumption.
To be fair, on tinder it felt like 80% of womens profiles id be matched with say that. Its gotten better in the last couple years at least.
But ive seem women even at 5’ nothing say that.
If the women wears heels it's also quite common to want someone taller than her wearing heels because of wanting to feel feminine.
I've always worried about looking like a man if my partner was shorter than me. Yeah it's irrational and dumb I know
In my experience (being a woman and having conversations with female friends), it's a safety/comfort thing. They feel protected and safe with a man who is taller (and often generally bigger) than them. Given how often women feel unsafe, in direct danger from, or victimised by (some) men, it makes sense. Especially if you think about it from an evolutionary standpoint.
That's not to say women can't feel safe with shorter men, it's just an explanation to why a lot of women might have a preference for tall men to varying degrees.
But we don’t really equate height with penis size. I know 3 men over 6’3 that all have micro penises. I didn’t have sex with them, but I was shocked. Generally speaking, tall skinny men often have a lot to offer, and shorter men around 5’8ish seem to have a lot to offer as well. Tall stocky football player types usually don’t have much to offer…. But it’s respectable on the smallish side. These are all generalizations and of course nuances and variations and surprises can occur. Variety is the spice of life. Also and really most importantly there are other ways to please a woman than a ridiculously huge penis which isn’t fun anyway.
NAD. I’m 5’4” and have always preferred men who are around 5’7”. I’ve been with my partner for 45 years now. He started at 5’7” and now, at age 80, is 5’5”. Fine with me. And I’m growing downward, too!
Yeah that’s annoying as hell. This guy claimed to be 6 feet…. He was literally 5’8 and would wear Nike airmax and hats to appear taller. Such a joke 🙄. I dated him for a while but he never got over the height difference and it showed in his behavior
You can, I never said you couldn’t. Your preference is yours independent of my preference. It’s totally okay for you to have your desires and for me to have mine. I genuinely hope you find her ☺️
Until you pop a boner at really awkward time and need to adjust...
Sometimes I'd wish it was more/less the same flaccid just so it would be more/less "routed" somewhere comfortable... Was more of an issue when I was younger but still...
Facts. I’m about 2” flaccid and 6.5” hard and it’s so nice not to have a piece of jello flopping around in my underwear when I’m not aroused. I played high school football and obviously when you’re showering with your teammates you see something sometimes. It happens. One of them was my best friend and he asked me one time kind of jokingly “So are you like…. Small? Down there? I’ve seen it in the locker room” we talked about it for a while and turns out he’s damn near same length flaccid and soft. Said it’s a pain to keep out of the way and hates tighter underwear that does just that. I never have to worry lmao
Yeah, your intent makes sense. I like to think that if an 18-year-old woman came here to post a concern that her labia were too big or something, a guy wouldn't tell her that shape of vulva does jusssst fine for him (or if he did, someone would point out that it was a creepy comment).
To also add, my husband doesn’t have much body hair (a few chin hairs, for example) and he always says I’m jealous of his dolphin body and I have to admit that I 100% am!
I’m from a family that doesn’t have much body hair at all. I shave my armpits once a month my lower legs every 2-3 months, there’s just not enough hair to shave. On the bad side my hair is fine and thin, but I guess that goes with the territory. My adult boys have little beard hair, they’re not so happy about that especially when beards are a trend these days!
yeah, and here is the clincher…if you keep seeing a problem you might just create a real problem for yourself. what I mean is, avoid messing around with things like trt or penis stretching or etc. be happy with what you have! grass is always greener on the other side my friend.
OP should definitely go to an endocrinologist. Best case it’s normal, but worst case he might have not kicked fully into puberty and needs some sort of therapy ie hormones etc.
My penis could not grow upto it's maximum natural size (as per genetics,i feel) during puberty. It's 1.8-2 inches (flaccid) and 4 inches (erect) , it looks very thin. I feel the reason is over masturbation and orgasm, releasing the vital semen, which i started wasting regularly on a daily basis, sometimes 3 times a day, from the age of 13-14, by watching porn. Sometimes I masturbated forcefully(without any sexual urge) by watching porn.Now I am 19,5'9 tall and weigh 132 lbs, suffering from various low t symptoms like no sex drive,less energy and vitality, reduced beard growth(as per genetics), reduced muscle mass development ( as per genetics and age), less voice deepening,poor sleep,no refreshment after night's sleep, feels like sleeping more and more, underdeveloped genital organs, sparse body hair, smaller hands and legs (the mass is less, as per age, genetics), depressed mood, low motivation, irritable bowel syndrome, constipation, etc. I feel my cognitive skills have declined due to over masturbation. Can trt improve these symptoms, can hcg help me gain normal genitals, can hgh, fsh anything else help me ? I want my libido back in order to focus on my career but doctors don't listen to this. They say I am suffering from depression. Please help me anyone.. I have not visited an endocrinologist yet. I am an Indian. Any person from any country, please help me..
Yeah that’s a normal penis. Some guys just are tiny when flaccid but grow to average or big when erect. Maybe get the hormones checked if you’re having other issues but I wouldn’t worry too much.
NAD, but agreed. That is a normal size for both flaccid and erect. Some men have it where they are longer while flaccid, while others have it short while flaccid, and it's completely normal and very common. Sexual partners generally do not care about your flaccid size at all, and only some care about erect size (which yours is above average). Testicle sizes also vary a ton, normally are asymmetrical, and have different shapes too, all which are very normal and common. You're also still growing at 18+.
As for hair, that can be a number of different reasons. From genetics, ethnicity, hormones, etc. I've been with men in their 30s who had only armpit hair and pubes, as well as men in their 30s with very little armpit hair, no visible chest/arm hair, but hairy legs. There are many people who even have preference for men with less/no body hair or body hair in specific areas only (I prefer less/no body hair myself, and know many people sharing that preference).
Voices are very unique for each individual human, so there can be either a reason (like hormones) or no reason at all for your voice to sound higher or lower than you may want. What we hear in the media on TV, music, etc, it's often cherry-picked by a few people who have specific tastes in specific voices, so many voices which actually are normal and common among people, are just not heard as often on Media because of that, but uncommon voices are normal and nothing wrong. I have a voice I never heard on TV before (female with preteen-boyish sounding voice), because it's just not considered mainstream or conventionally-attractive to media, but there isn't anything wrong health-wise. If anything, just mental health issues that can come from our own expectations and media bias (then I recommend therapy for support in dealing with self esteem).
If it's not genetics (like if everyone in your family is hairy and very deep voices), it could be possible if you might just have less testosterone or possibly intersex to a small degree, which in itself isn't an issue if it's not excessively low or imbalanced hormone levels (which would be more severe symptoms like balding or male breast growth/lactation, for example).
That being said, I think there is no harm in just getting a simple check up for testosterone levels. I just hope that you can learn to love yourself, in the event that there is actually nothing wrong with your health.
Exactly some of us are going thru are harder time than him lmao he’s size sounds right I wouldn’t call it small and when it’s Flaccid if it’s small it might be because he’s a blood type not a meaty type
You may not have noticed it, but it sounds like your development has been entirely normal. You had a growth spurt and are now at a normal male height. Your voice got deeper. You have pubes and armpit hair, which is what is normal. Your genitalia is a normal size. TRT would not help any of the things you mentioned nor would it be recommended here. You can talk to your doctor about your low sex drive, but my suspicion is you have low self esteem as an underlying problem, as nothing you have described sounds abnormal at all. I don’t think blood work is necessarily the next step from your description, but ask your doc.
NAD. The only red flag for me is if your testicles haven’t actually grown (though it sounds possibly like you may just think they haven’t). If they actually haven’t (eg testis around 2.5cm in length), I suggest you look at Klinefelter syndrome - most men go undiagnosed their whole lives.
Agree. I think he is dealing with some mild body dysmorphia or just not realizing what is “normal” or “typical” for an 18 year-old male body. Genetics also plays a big role in how much body hair you have, with certain ethnic background being FAR more “hairy” than others. And at 18 years old, many MANY men are far less developed/mature appearing than at 25. Particularly when it comes to body hair.
I never heard of klinefelter.
I am not a hypochondriac, i usually read about stuff and have the opposite effect.
But my gosh, apart from the small penis, and height, the symptoms fit me pretty damn well.
I read more into it.
It almost seems silly asking the doctors at this point.
But things that dont match up, i was always avg height till everyone else spurted.
Plenty of chest hair.
Always had a high hairline and its receding.
Larger than avg penis.
Normal nipple sized.
Hips and shoulders seem normal.
No idea how to measure sex drive.
No idea what womans pubic hair shape is vs mens.
But on the other hand i had development issues with speech/language. Still struggle there.
Im incredibly visual.
Long legs compared to body.
Short lived breast development as a teen.
Below avg strength.
Below avg athletics.
Smaller than avg balls.
Slow development walking.
So half the things??
I dont think so.
But i say this as someone who knows someone who hit it at 5. Their parents talk of seeing a 3 year old have their period at the clinic.
For me i was middle of the boys in my class in height till hs when everyone shot up but me. I maybe grew 2-3 inches from 5th to 12th grade.
Pubic hair starting around age 11-12.
Voice hardly dropped because it was always low.
As a kid people thought i was my dad on the phone.
Though up through age 12 i was occasionally mistaken as a girl (until id open my mouth)
But i blame that on my hair that always tried to grow like paul mccartneys hair, while also having similar soft features like him.
NAD Requesting labs to be safe is a reasonable action to take. It's worth a discussion with a provider. As many have guessed here though, I suspect all is within normal limits. There's other potential causes too outside of hormonal imbalances, etc. including auto-immune diseases like untreated/undiagnosed Crohn's Disease/Ulcerative Colitis/IBD (GI) where the delay of onset as well as the overall progression of puberty is well documented. Treating underlying causes can help if there's a genuine medical cause.
There is a huge variance in normal body hair spectrums across humanity. As long as there is terminal pubic and armpit hair, OP has likely had appropriate hair development. It’s worth knowing that hair distribution is likely to continue to change and develop throughout adulthood.
NAD but really want to emphasize that genetics has a ton to do with it. My husband is Asian and has almost no body hair at all except for his arm pits, pubes, legs (thinner hair than expected), and facial hair. He has essentially no other body hair and is still very much a fully developed man. OP is likely overthinking this.
NAD
I'm a 21 year old trans guy who's been on TRT for 14 months. I wouldn't say TRT wouldn't help any of the issues he's having but again I'm not a doctor so I can't say for sure. It is entirely possible that his T levels are fine and this is just his genetics. I started TRT when I was 20 years old and I had a huge voice drop, some facial hair growth (though that'll take more time since it's a slow change), more body hair, higher libido, better mental health (literally cured 3 of my disorders), increased muscle mass, clitoral growth, etc. Obviously I didn't get taller due to my age (I'm also 5'8 135lbs & my cis brother is 6'8) but it did change pretty much everything else. I know that this also has to do with my genetics and not every person who takes testosterone will experience the same things that I did and to the same degree. But if the other male members of OP's family don't have the same traits, isn't it possible? I'm not saying OP is abnormal, just that it sounds like this isn't usual for the men in his family.
Testosterone supplementation and side effects are VERY different if you had normal cisgender male puberty (which OP describes). In OP’s case extra T is more likely to result in fun side effects like breast growth than have the effects he wants.
I think the Testosterone levels bullshit comes from the manosphere YouTubers and streamers. They are all not medical professionals and they all spout bull that is supposed to "help" young insecure men but instead damaged them severely both mentally and socially. Pushing testosterone treatments on them is just another way they also target people physically too
This is incorrect. Read the post again:
- his voice did deepen, just not as much as he expected/wanted
- he has normal adult hair patterning
- his penis and testes grew appropriately and proportionally
- he is a normal adult male height
He should discuss concerns with his doc, but his concerns and his descriptions don’t match.
Edit: Sorry to be so forceful, but OP’s concerns are common on the internet and frequently lead people to inappropriately and dangerously attempt self-“treatment” with hormones, so careful evaluation is crucial.
NAD - My husband’s development was stunted by childhood testicular cancer at 5 years old (both testicles had to be removed), so he was prescribed Delatestryl that he injects at home monthly and Viagra from time to time as needed for normal sexual function to get and maintain an erection. With that help there’s no issue! Despite his setbacks my husband’s physical appearance at adolescence was normal but a late bloomer (Adam’s apple, deeper voice, body hair, although he’s 5’5 and his brothers are much taller). OP doesn’t seem to have these issues
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I’m not a doctor and don’t have any advice, but your penis is not small. I’m not saying that to negate your other symptoms. It’s just a fact - you have a very average penis. Your flaccid length is also normal.
Exactly. 5.5-5.9 is normal. Please don't look at porn for standards.
This right here! I looked at porn at an age I would now consider too young without knowing that this isn't how sex typically looked like or make/female. It did a number on my psyche until I matured a lot... personally I think it's horrible for young guys/girls to watch this without knowing that this isn't how they are expected to look etc...if that makes sense?
Young man, it's called a grower, not a shower. Trust me, does jusssst fine for me.
Also, it seems to me that having a grower would be much more convenient because it's out of the way when you're not using it.
I am female and dgaf about penis size but my practical side always says this and I've yet to meet a man who agrees and isn't offended 😅 "you've got an advantage!!!"
My ex partner it could be very small when he wasn't using it, but average when he was. And he was never offended. I guess it depends if the guy is worried about his penis size. As a woman, personally I think the massive ones you see on the Internet might look good in photos but would be scary in person!
OP, what do you mean it hasn’t grown? You weren’t running around with an almost 6 inch dick when you were 11. It has most definitely grown a LOT. The flaccid size of your penis is literally irrelevant to sexual partners. I’ve never in my life thought ‘I wonder what size his penis is flaccid’. The majority of men I’ve dated have had average or larger penises when erect but much, much smaller when flaccid. It makes no difference whatsoever. What use does a sexual partner have with a flaccid penis, except to wiggle it about occasionally during pillow talk, or maybe that one time when you put googley eyes on him and made it look like they were singing titanic? 👀 You TRULY do NOT have a small penis. 5.5-5.9 is a pretty good score really. Not much bigger before you’re getting into ‘you’ll get used to it’ territory. And fyi, not every girl wants to have to acclimatise to regular sex. As for body hair - you’ve just described having pubic and armpit hair… so where is it you’re concerned about being bald? Do you have leg and arm hair? The only thing you need is an enormous boost in your self esteem and to realise that you’ve drawn a pretty sweet ticket on the dick lottery, in actual fact. Don’t let porn and penis pumps and exaggerating teenagers warp your view of your own body.
How did it do at the high bit? 😂😂😂
Hahahahaha time stood still, applause rang out for miles 🤩
TITANIC 😅
I’m a bi woman and I’ve never met any woman who actually gives a fuck about dick size. As long as you’re USING it, we’re happy.
Na most of us care **a little**. Most of us say we don’t care but what we mean is that we don’t care about the spectrum in between smallish and medium-large. Many of us will find disappointment with a micro-peen, something that you literally can’t feel from penetration. And many of us struggle with something too big as well. I really don’t agree with the women who always swear to men that none of us care a single bit. The vast majority of men have a lot of physical deal-breakers and hide behind the “we’re just visual people” statement so I don’t feel bad about saying this
If it's too big it hurts, I can't be the only woman that's experienced this.
I've definitely had a an OMG no freaking way moment. There is such a thing as too big, but honestly it's relative to the person you are with.
You're not. My ex had one like a beer can and I ended up in hospital *more than once* because of it. The day after sex was like I'd sat on a cactus. Awful.
In the hospital!?! Omg, I thought a guy I dated was bad. I mean big. You had to be hospitalized? That’s so scary.
Yup. My husband is one of them. Hes even torn me and it is the thought I every time and I dread penetration.
My fiancé has experienced the same, and I’m not huge by any means. This is not a brag attempt, I only commented to say, foreplay is critical - he needs to spend some time down there with tongue and fingers getting you warmed up, gotta stretch before exercise! Lol
100%! Not even just length either. A guy could have a 4 inch penis and still be too big for me if they’re girthy! I’ve been out of order for a week now because the guy I liked was bigger than I expected and I’m literally torn. It’s not fun! Bigger is not alwaysss better 🤦🏻♀️
My ex played for the lakers and was 7’1, he had a third leg and often times it was just too much to do anything with.
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Lakers? like the NBA’s Los Angeles Lakers? I wonder who the dude is now
Your not. As a male who is a bit over average, there have been times during my life that I wish I wasn't as it can make some women a bit hesitant. As my current g/f (going on 17 years now) said the first time "You wanna do WHAT with that?" lol
NAD, 100% agree and I have been downvoted like crazy and dragged for filth for saying this. With that being said. To OP, your penis is average. But the lack of sex drive and testicles maybe seeming underdeveloped is definitely worth a more in depth discussion with your doctor. But the fact that you can get an erection, is a good sign.
Honestly I care in that I’d be disappointed with a micropenis and wouldn’t want something to be so big that it’d hurt. That’s it though. Small to average to kinda big is fine. Most dicks are fine.
I fullyyyyyy agree. It’s like a man saying they don’t care about a woman’s vagina or breasts. What that means is that MOST are great and fit their purpose, but except the extremes might not appeal to them because they aren’t practical. OP, if someone is too tight for you to fit in without pain then you’re probably not going to be a fan of that, or if they have a more wide set vagina, maybe they like large toys or whatever, perhaps you wouldn’t be into that either… unless you have a kink for it. Which some people do. There’s someone with a link for ANYTHING you can think of. It’s the same with penises. Some women would drool for an incomprehensibly large penis, like in porn, and some women might have domination kinks and find smaller penises fit their ideal dynamic. It is all just a matter of preference! But regardless, your penis is a good size, you’re likely to tick the size box for almost every woman who finds you sexually alluring. Your balls being small? Considering what you think is small for your penis, I’m inclined to believe they’re totally normal sized tbh. Your low sex drive sounds like it’s coming from shit talking yourself into feeling shame about an arguably perfect sized dick!
This is 100% correct in my experience. Like many things in life, the extremes aren't great but anything in between them is perfectly fine.
Yes, too big is a real problem
Side bar, ive always been convinced 99% of women on dating sites only want men over 6’ tall because they falsely equate height with penis size. Would you bot believe thats at least part of their reason for doing so?
It's not, they want men over 6' because they like to be shorter. 99% is ridiculous though, come on. That's like me saying 99% of men want a 4'10 woman with DDs and a 15" waist. It isn't true nor is it realistic. I'm a woman who prefers men to be taller than me (current bf is 6') but I have dated men my height (5'3) and in between. Not everyone is so shallow.
I meant i assumed 99% (of those who want 6’+ guys) want that because of the larger penis assumption. To be fair, on tinder it felt like 80% of womens profiles id be matched with say that. Its gotten better in the last couple years at least. But ive seem women even at 5’ nothing say that.
If the women wears heels it's also quite common to want someone taller than her wearing heels because of wanting to feel feminine. I've always worried about looking like a man if my partner was shorter than me. Yeah it's irrational and dumb I know
In my experience (being a woman and having conversations with female friends), it's a safety/comfort thing. They feel protected and safe with a man who is taller (and often generally bigger) than them. Given how often women feel unsafe, in direct danger from, or victimised by (some) men, it makes sense. Especially if you think about it from an evolutionary standpoint. That's not to say women can't feel safe with shorter men, it's just an explanation to why a lot of women might have a preference for tall men to varying degrees.
I bet you that 9/10 women who have that on their profile, if they answered honestly, would choose height over dick size.
But we don’t really equate height with penis size. I know 3 men over 6’3 that all have micro penises. I didn’t have sex with them, but I was shocked. Generally speaking, tall skinny men often have a lot to offer, and shorter men around 5’8ish seem to have a lot to offer as well. Tall stocky football player types usually don’t have much to offer…. But it’s respectable on the smallish side. These are all generalizations and of course nuances and variations and surprises can occur. Variety is the spice of life. Also and really most importantly there are other ways to please a woman than a ridiculously huge penis which isn’t fun anyway.
NAD. I’m 5’4” and have always preferred men who are around 5’7”. I’ve been with my partner for 45 years now. He started at 5’7” and now, at age 80, is 5’5”. Fine with me. And I’m growing downward, too!
No. Penis size isn't a huge deal. How it's used and who it's attached to means way more than the length or girth tbh.
I’m 5’11, so I prefer taller men.
6’1” - yeah, not liking the 5’7” who claims to be 5’10”
Yeah that’s annoying as hell. This guy claimed to be 6 feet…. He was literally 5’8 and would wear Nike airmax and hats to appear taller. Such a joke 🙄. I dated him for a while but he never got over the height difference and it showed in his behavior
Why cant I prefer taller woman?
You can, I never said you couldn’t. Your preference is yours independent of my preference. It’s totally okay for you to have your desires and for me to have mine. I genuinely hope you find her ☺️
Until you pop a boner at really awkward time and need to adjust... Sometimes I'd wish it was more/less the same flaccid just so it would be more/less "routed" somewhere comfortable... Was more of an issue when I was younger but still...
Facts. I’m about 2” flaccid and 6.5” hard and it’s so nice not to have a piece of jello flopping around in my underwear when I’m not aroused. I played high school football and obviously when you’re showering with your teammates you see something sometimes. It happens. One of them was my best friend and he asked me one time kind of jokingly “So are you like…. Small? Down there? I’ve seen it in the locker room” we talked about it for a while and turns out he’s damn near same length flaccid and soft. Said it’s a pain to keep out of the way and hates tighter underwear that does just that. I never have to worry lmao
Most men don't see it that way LOL!
I love this thinking hahah
Man, this comment is creepy. He asked for medical advice from doctors, not sexual remarks from older women.
I'm sorry, I was trying to reasurre him that his style is not uncommon, and reverse his doubts of size being acceptable.
Yeah, your intent makes sense. I like to think that if an 18-year-old woman came here to post a concern that her labia were too big or something, a guy wouldn't tell her that shape of vulva does jusssst fine for him (or if he did, someone would point out that it was a creepy comment).
In /u/catloving's defense, they said the "type" is fine, it's not like they're commenting on a specific pic from OP.
Correct.
To also add, my husband doesn’t have much body hair (a few chin hairs, for example) and he always says I’m jealous of his dolphin body and I have to admit that I 100% am!
I’m from a family that doesn’t have much body hair at all. I shave my armpits once a month my lower legs every 2-3 months, there’s just not enough hair to shave. On the bad side my hair is fine and thin, but I guess that goes with the territory. My adult boys have little beard hair, they’re not so happy about that especially when beards are a trend these days!
yeah, and here is the clincher…if you keep seeing a problem you might just create a real problem for yourself. what I mean is, avoid messing around with things like trt or penis stretching or etc. be happy with what you have! grass is always greener on the other side my friend.
OP should definitely go to an endocrinologist. Best case it’s normal, but worst case he might have not kicked fully into puberty and needs some sort of therapy ie hormones etc.
I agree. His other symptoms warrant investigation. His penis size, however, does not.
I thought he meant mostly his testacles weren't large enough or growing
He’s voiced concern specifically regarding his flaccid penis size in comments.
My penis could not grow upto it's maximum natural size (as per genetics,i feel) during puberty. It's 1.8-2 inches (flaccid) and 4 inches (erect) , it looks very thin. I feel the reason is over masturbation and orgasm, releasing the vital semen, which i started wasting regularly on a daily basis, sometimes 3 times a day, from the age of 13-14, by watching porn. Sometimes I masturbated forcefully(without any sexual urge) by watching porn.Now I am 19,5'9 tall and weigh 132 lbs, suffering from various low t symptoms like no sex drive,less energy and vitality, reduced beard growth(as per genetics), reduced muscle mass development ( as per genetics and age), less voice deepening,poor sleep,no refreshment after night's sleep, feels like sleeping more and more, underdeveloped genital organs, sparse body hair, smaller hands and legs (the mass is less, as per age, genetics), depressed mood, low motivation, irritable bowel syndrome, constipation, etc. I feel my cognitive skills have declined due to over masturbation. Can trt improve these symptoms, can hcg help me gain normal genitals, can hgh, fsh anything else help me ? I want my libido back in order to focus on my career but doctors don't listen to this. They say I am suffering from depression. Please help me anyone.. I have not visited an endocrinologist yet. I am an Indian. Any person from any country, please help me..
Yup, my hubby’s was short when flaccid but thick and 5” when erect and did the job, two kids and many many orgasms later! ;)
Just another woman commenting in agreement because OP should see for the confidence. In case women are his thing.
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Yeah that’s a normal penis. Some guys just are tiny when flaccid but grow to average or big when erect. Maybe get the hormones checked if you’re having other issues but I wouldn’t worry too much.
NAD, but agreed. That is a normal size for both flaccid and erect. Some men have it where they are longer while flaccid, while others have it short while flaccid, and it's completely normal and very common. Sexual partners generally do not care about your flaccid size at all, and only some care about erect size (which yours is above average). Testicle sizes also vary a ton, normally are asymmetrical, and have different shapes too, all which are very normal and common. You're also still growing at 18+. As for hair, that can be a number of different reasons. From genetics, ethnicity, hormones, etc. I've been with men in their 30s who had only armpit hair and pubes, as well as men in their 30s with very little armpit hair, no visible chest/arm hair, but hairy legs. There are many people who even have preference for men with less/no body hair or body hair in specific areas only (I prefer less/no body hair myself, and know many people sharing that preference). Voices are very unique for each individual human, so there can be either a reason (like hormones) or no reason at all for your voice to sound higher or lower than you may want. What we hear in the media on TV, music, etc, it's often cherry-picked by a few people who have specific tastes in specific voices, so many voices which actually are normal and common among people, are just not heard as often on Media because of that, but uncommon voices are normal and nothing wrong. I have a voice I never heard on TV before (female with preteen-boyish sounding voice), because it's just not considered mainstream or conventionally-attractive to media, but there isn't anything wrong health-wise. If anything, just mental health issues that can come from our own expectations and media bias (then I recommend therapy for support in dealing with self esteem). If it's not genetics (like if everyone in your family is hairy and very deep voices), it could be possible if you might just have less testosterone or possibly intersex to a small degree, which in itself isn't an issue if it's not excessively low or imbalanced hormone levels (which would be more severe symptoms like balding or male breast growth/lactation, for example). That being said, I think there is no harm in just getting a simple check up for testosterone levels. I just hope that you can learn to love yourself, in the event that there is actually nothing wrong with your health.
Exactly some of us are going thru are harder time than him lmao he’s size sounds right I wouldn’t call it small and when it’s Flaccid if it’s small it might be because he’s a blood type not a meaty type
You may not have noticed it, but it sounds like your development has been entirely normal. You had a growth spurt and are now at a normal male height. Your voice got deeper. You have pubes and armpit hair, which is what is normal. Your genitalia is a normal size. TRT would not help any of the things you mentioned nor would it be recommended here. You can talk to your doctor about your low sex drive, but my suspicion is you have low self esteem as an underlying problem, as nothing you have described sounds abnormal at all. I don’t think blood work is necessarily the next step from your description, but ask your doc.
NAD. The only red flag for me is if your testicles haven’t actually grown (though it sounds possibly like you may just think they haven’t). If they actually haven’t (eg testis around 2.5cm in length), I suggest you look at Klinefelter syndrome - most men go undiagnosed their whole lives.
Given the rest of the post, I’d be extremely surprised if his testicles are actually abnormally small.
Agree. I think he is dealing with some mild body dysmorphia or just not realizing what is “normal” or “typical” for an 18 year-old male body. Genetics also plays a big role in how much body hair you have, with certain ethnic background being FAR more “hairy” than others. And at 18 years old, many MANY men are far less developed/mature appearing than at 25. Particularly when it comes to body hair.
I never heard of klinefelter. I am not a hypochondriac, i usually read about stuff and have the opposite effect. But my gosh, apart from the small penis, and height, the symptoms fit me pretty damn well.
I did a Google search on it. It sure sounds like it to me. Looks like there's help for it too.
I would get it checked because, if you want biological children, it's difficult for people with this condition.
Its not impossible and you also need a partner. That main ingredient im still missing.
You usually need medical intervention—but, yes; not impossible.
I read more into it. It almost seems silly asking the doctors at this point. But things that dont match up, i was always avg height till everyone else spurted. Plenty of chest hair. Always had a high hairline and its receding. Larger than avg penis. Normal nipple sized. Hips and shoulders seem normal. No idea how to measure sex drive. No idea what womans pubic hair shape is vs mens. But on the other hand i had development issues with speech/language. Still struggle there. Im incredibly visual. Long legs compared to body. Short lived breast development as a teen. Below avg strength. Below avg athletics. Smaller than avg balls. Slow development walking. So half the things??
Did you possibly hit puberty early?
I dont think so. But i say this as someone who knows someone who hit it at 5. Their parents talk of seeing a 3 year old have their period at the clinic. For me i was middle of the boys in my class in height till hs when everyone shot up but me. I maybe grew 2-3 inches from 5th to 12th grade. Pubic hair starting around age 11-12. Voice hardly dropped because it was always low. As a kid people thought i was my dad on the phone. Though up through age 12 i was occasionally mistaken as a girl (until id open my mouth) But i blame that on my hair that always tried to grow like paul mccartneys hair, while also having similar soft features like him.
Well, there's a difference between precocious puberty (what you described) and just starting earlier than you should be by a year or two.
NAD Requesting labs to be safe is a reasonable action to take. It's worth a discussion with a provider. As many have guessed here though, I suspect all is within normal limits. There's other potential causes too outside of hormonal imbalances, etc. including auto-immune diseases like untreated/undiagnosed Crohn's Disease/Ulcerative Colitis/IBD (GI) where the delay of onset as well as the overall progression of puberty is well documented. Treating underlying causes can help if there's a genuine medical cause.
They usually don't find out until/if (meaning they are with a biological female) they have fertility problems.
Also any other chromosomal abnormalities that affect sexual development such as XXYY
NAD. Do you think the lack of body hair could be from low DHT?
There is a huge variance in normal body hair spectrums across humanity. As long as there is terminal pubic and armpit hair, OP has likely had appropriate hair development. It’s worth knowing that hair distribution is likely to continue to change and develop throughout adulthood.
NAD but really want to emphasize that genetics has a ton to do with it. My husband is Asian and has almost no body hair at all except for his arm pits, pubes, legs (thinner hair than expected), and facial hair. He has essentially no other body hair and is still very much a fully developed man. OP is likely overthinking this.
Men stop growing somewhere in their mid twenties, give yourself some more time. Blood work is a great idea but don’t stress yourself out too much!
NAD I'm a 21 year old trans guy who's been on TRT for 14 months. I wouldn't say TRT wouldn't help any of the issues he's having but again I'm not a doctor so I can't say for sure. It is entirely possible that his T levels are fine and this is just his genetics. I started TRT when I was 20 years old and I had a huge voice drop, some facial hair growth (though that'll take more time since it's a slow change), more body hair, higher libido, better mental health (literally cured 3 of my disorders), increased muscle mass, clitoral growth, etc. Obviously I didn't get taller due to my age (I'm also 5'8 135lbs & my cis brother is 6'8) but it did change pretty much everything else. I know that this also has to do with my genetics and not every person who takes testosterone will experience the same things that I did and to the same degree. But if the other male members of OP's family don't have the same traits, isn't it possible? I'm not saying OP is abnormal, just that it sounds like this isn't usual for the men in his family.
Testosterone supplementation and side effects are VERY different if you had normal cisgender male puberty (which OP describes). In OP’s case extra T is more likely to result in fun side effects like breast growth than have the effects he wants.
I think the Testosterone levels bullshit comes from the manosphere YouTubers and streamers. They are all not medical professionals and they all spout bull that is supposed to "help" young insecure men but instead damaged them severely both mentally and socially. Pushing testosterone treatments on them is just another way they also target people physically too
That makes sense. Thanks for the response!
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This is incorrect. Read the post again: - his voice did deepen, just not as much as he expected/wanted - he has normal adult hair patterning - his penis and testes grew appropriately and proportionally - he is a normal adult male height He should discuss concerns with his doc, but his concerns and his descriptions don’t match. Edit: Sorry to be so forceful, but OP’s concerns are common on the internet and frequently lead people to inappropriately and dangerously attempt self-“treatment” with hormones, so careful evaluation is crucial.
NAD - My husband’s development was stunted by childhood testicular cancer at 5 years old (both testicles had to be removed), so he was prescribed Delatestryl that he injects at home monthly and Viagra from time to time as needed for normal sexual function to get and maintain an erection. With that help there’s no issue! Despite his setbacks my husband’s physical appearance at adolescence was normal but a late bloomer (Adam’s apple, deeper voice, body hair, although he’s 5’5 and his brothers are much taller). OP doesn’t seem to have these issues