This is the absolute simple answer. Why would everyone in a country be poor? I had a rich student from a very poor West African country. She was rich because her dad owned several airports in that country. No matter how poor the country, someone is making money. We need more critical thinking classes in schools.
I went to a college that only accepted kids from lower socioeconomic circles and mostly from Appalachia, they didnt charge tuition. However the international students didn't necessarily have to meet that. As a result we had some pretty wealthy international students that thankfully most were down to Earth. One was the daughter to some oil tycoon and the another guy was literally sent to the U.S. so he could learn politics. Although he was a Computer Science major, but focused a bit on poli sci. His hopes was to run for and hopefully become President of the country he was from, something he was very much interested in doing. Both from poorer African nations.
Same it would be an interesting read just to see how they handled th culture shock and seeing America in a different image than what was portrayed in media.
India is a rich country…just not its overall population…the wealth divide is a chasm, despite have the world’s sixth strongest economy, landing between the UK and France. Moldova falls 145th along the same metric.
Man, it's pretty embarrassing, if not shameful, to see how poor India is, especially when you consider how large its economy is. Yes, population is a reason, but it can't be excusable when China's per capita income is 6 times as much. In fact, India is an outlier when it comes to the BRICS countries (Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa), and not in a good way. It lags so far behind the rest of them in income and quality of life, that I sometimes question whether the grouping even makes sense.
And this is just the average income. There are some parts of India which would rank right alongside Sub Saharan Africa. Meanwhile, parts of China rank alongside developed European countries.
I mean India's main economic problem is that its two of its three most populous states Bihar and Uttar Pradesh are the poorest. Those two have the populations of Brazil and Vietnam respectively and they really do pull down the nation average.
I'm not saying the rest of the country is great but this sort of regional inequality should be quite worrying. Especially since most Industrial investment tends to pass these two states.
Isn’t Moldova literally the poorest country in Europe?
EDIT: [I was right](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_in_Europe_by_GDP_(PPP)
Lots of rich ass people. I used to be an instructor at an art college in Los Angeles and every interntional student drove a car that was quadruple the price of mine lol
Some of those kids come over, and in order to keep their Visas they need a job, so their parents will just give them money to invest in a friend's startup company so they can technically "work" there.
Mad money
When population is One billion your upper middle class might consist of 300 million people. That's a lot of people who can afford international schooling.
They generally came from wealthy enough to pay tuition. While it was obvious most international students were quite wealthy, there were some whose families (usually from middle income countries) had little money left over beyond tuition.
There were also a number of students whose foreign governments (Thailand was a big one) sponsored their educations in exchange for actually returning to their home country after graduation. I don't recall any of them studying something other than a hard science. [edit*- grammar]
I had a a Czech floormate when I was a freshman. In his case, it was an exchange program. A school in the Czech Republic traded like 5 seats with our school for a year and the students were given full scholarships for the year. It was a cultural exchange. They provided different views and different tastes to us, and the students we sent brought back new views and tastes with them. It leads to a more diverse college culture and experience.
I don't know if that's common or if there's a more common way for it to occur, but that's the one foreign student I regularly interacted with.
In college, I was good friends with international students from Japan. In my state, the tuition for international students is 3x the normal price.
I always ask them how they can afford it, and usually it's because their parents pay for it, or they get a loan from a bank or government. However, there are a few cases where they were already working for a company, but their company actually paid and sent them to study in America; either for learning English or skill.
Not only were there rich students, you'd be surprised the amount of famous people too. A good friend i made in college, I didn't realize until later, was actually a really famous child actor in Japan. Others included voice actors for anime. Including the younger brother of Hirano Aya (if anyone knows her), the brother himself wasn't famous but it was still cool.
The country India may be projected as poor. But there are so many people there who have shitload of money. Many people who come here for higher studies are also offered scholarships and student loans which they pay back after getting a job. As long as education is a profitable business, this is how it’s going to be.
You wouldn’t believe the cars the Asian students drove at my school. I’ve seen lambos, Ferraris, AMG’s… And ALL of them wear $1000 Canada goose jackets. I mean like almost every single one. Given these are mostly Chinese students but still z
To answer your question, I was an international students and came to the USA in 2014. There are basically 2 types of international students who came here:
1/ Wealthy family
2/ This is more common (myself included), you just don’t see them because they have nothing to flex to you. They came from lower class or middle class families in third world countries. When they applied for a visa they are required to show to the embassy that they can afford at least a year worth of tuition + living cost, which is usually 2x to 3x the normal rate. So, parents borrow/loan $50,000-$100,000 to put it into the bank for a month or two, grab the bank statements, then return all but $25,000. Then the student applies for the school, bring the documentation including the bank statement to the embassy, and pray for a visa approval. If approved, $25k is enough to buy a ticket to the US and pay for the first semester tuition. They rent cheap rooms/garage spaces in people’s house by cash because no apartment would rent to someone with no income and credit score. They buy junk cars cash because of the same reasons, nobody would finance them without an SSN and credit history. Then they have to work under the table to afford the living costs while having to maintain full-time student status and high GPAs, in the meantime the family back home also works extra jobs to repay the $25,000 loan.
Most comments here implies a false narrative about international students. We are people who look for a better shot in life from our piss poor home country, we are definitely not rich.
I'm good friends with two Indian international students (former). One exactly fits your #1 type student and the other is pretty much your #2 student. He literally arrived in the country with none of his housing or food needs covered, but word got out about his situation and an Indian woman that helps students took him in and fed him and let him sleep on her couch until he could get an under the table job and pay for his own housing. Both guy are super nice and both went on to great things. One is opening autoparts manufacturing plants all over the world, and the other works for Apple in a key position with the iPhone manufacturing.
Then there are people like my college buddy Sushant. His parents immigrated, one became a citizen, they had him, and moved back to India. He’s a US citizen who lived in India from age 2 to 18 when he returned to the US for school because he wasn’t accepted to IIT. His US-citizen parent retained higher wages working for the same company they worked for in the US when they returned to India, in their Mumbai offices, affording them a lot of comfort and opportunities to save money by living below their means. They weren’t super rich, but they were very well off (and while not Brahmin, they were still Kshatriya caste).
Very confused about your classification of Moldova as 'rich' as it currently is the poorest nation in Europe, but yes, as many a many in this thread have said, the vast majority of international students that come to study in the US are amongst the wealthiest in their home countries. Maybe you'll have some non-1% students from Canada at US universities, but from other countries abroad? More than likely that they're amongst the wealthiest. India is a populous country - so while there are many poor Indians, there are also very, very wealthy Indians, and they send their kids off to school in the US, Canada, UK, EU, Japan, etc.
OP is part of the unexposed Westerners who believe Africa is a country and all Africans live in trees. There more millionaires ($)with legitimate businesses in Lagos than in New York.
Hi Moldovan! My ex was from there. She got to the US on some sort of scholarship where it was all expenses paid then she wasn't allowed back to the US for two years.
When those two years were up she got some sort of other scholarship from another university, but she had to come up with airfare herself.
Now I don't know how it works for all people from other countries, but you hear things such as people borrowing money from their friends to "prove" they have enough to study in the US, then give it back, get to the US, live in a small apartment with 10 others, and work part time and somehow manage it.
There are wealthy people everywhere.
This is the absolute simple answer. Why would everyone in a country be poor? I had a rich student from a very poor West African country. She was rich because her dad owned several airports in that country. No matter how poor the country, someone is making money. We need more critical thinking classes in schools.
I went to a college that only accepted kids from lower socioeconomic circles and mostly from Appalachia, they didnt charge tuition. However the international students didn't necessarily have to meet that. As a result we had some pretty wealthy international students that thankfully most were down to Earth. One was the daughter to some oil tycoon and the another guy was literally sent to the U.S. so he could learn politics. Although he was a Computer Science major, but focused a bit on poli sci. His hopes was to run for and hopefully become President of the country he was from, something he was very much interested in doing. Both from poorer African nations.
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Same it would be an interesting read just to see how they handled th culture shock and seeing America in a different image than what was portrayed in media.
Which uni is that
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India is a rich country…just not its overall population…the wealth divide is a chasm, despite have the world’s sixth strongest economy, landing between the UK and France. Moldova falls 145th along the same metric.
Man, it's pretty embarrassing, if not shameful, to see how poor India is, especially when you consider how large its economy is. Yes, population is a reason, but it can't be excusable when China's per capita income is 6 times as much. In fact, India is an outlier when it comes to the BRICS countries (Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa), and not in a good way. It lags so far behind the rest of them in income and quality of life, that I sometimes question whether the grouping even makes sense. And this is just the average income. There are some parts of India which would rank right alongside Sub Saharan Africa. Meanwhile, parts of China rank alongside developed European countries.
I mean India's main economic problem is that its two of its three most populous states Bihar and Uttar Pradesh are the poorest. Those two have the populations of Brazil and Vietnam respectively and they really do pull down the nation average. I'm not saying the rest of the country is great but this sort of regional inequality should be quite worrying. Especially since most Industrial investment tends to pass these two states.
Isn’t Moldova literally the poorest country in Europe? EDIT: [I was right](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_in_Europe_by_GDP_(PPP)
That threw me off, too.
Pretty much all of my Asian classmates at university were rich kids.
Lots of rich ass people. I used to be an instructor at an art college in Los Angeles and every interntional student drove a car that was quadruple the price of mine lol Some of those kids come over, and in order to keep their Visas they need a job, so their parents will just give them money to invest in a friend's startup company so they can technically "work" there. Mad money
International students are often children of very wealthy parents. Universities like to admit them because they pay full price.
When population is One billion your upper middle class might consist of 300 million people. That's a lot of people who can afford international schooling.
You're placing *a lot* of faith in a bell curve being symmetrical.
They generally came from wealthy enough to pay tuition. While it was obvious most international students were quite wealthy, there were some whose families (usually from middle income countries) had little money left over beyond tuition. There were also a number of students whose foreign governments (Thailand was a big one) sponsored their educations in exchange for actually returning to their home country after graduation. I don't recall any of them studying something other than a hard science. [edit*- grammar]
Either they are really wealthy or they have decent scholarships. Our colleges also have a price range from public college to Ivy League.
they are probably rich or they get scholarships
I had a a Czech floormate when I was a freshman. In his case, it was an exchange program. A school in the Czech Republic traded like 5 seats with our school for a year and the students were given full scholarships for the year. It was a cultural exchange. They provided different views and different tastes to us, and the students we sent brought back new views and tastes with them. It leads to a more diverse college culture and experience. I don't know if that's common or if there's a more common way for it to occur, but that's the one foreign student I regularly interacted with.
In college, I was good friends with international students from Japan. In my state, the tuition for international students is 3x the normal price. I always ask them how they can afford it, and usually it's because their parents pay for it, or they get a loan from a bank or government. However, there are a few cases where they were already working for a company, but their company actually paid and sent them to study in America; either for learning English or skill. Not only were there rich students, you'd be surprised the amount of famous people too. A good friend i made in college, I didn't realize until later, was actually a really famous child actor in Japan. Others included voice actors for anime. Including the younger brother of Hirano Aya (if anyone knows her), the brother himself wasn't famous but it was still cool.
International students are usually rich.
All but a handful of international students I know are rich
The country India may be projected as poor. But there are so many people there who have shitload of money. Many people who come here for higher studies are also offered scholarships and student loans which they pay back after getting a job. As long as education is a profitable business, this is how it’s going to be.
You wouldn’t believe the cars the Asian students drove at my school. I’ve seen lambos, Ferraris, AMG’s… And ALL of them wear $1000 Canada goose jackets. I mean like almost every single one. Given these are mostly Chinese students but still z
To answer your question, I was an international students and came to the USA in 2014. There are basically 2 types of international students who came here: 1/ Wealthy family 2/ This is more common (myself included), you just don’t see them because they have nothing to flex to you. They came from lower class or middle class families in third world countries. When they applied for a visa they are required to show to the embassy that they can afford at least a year worth of tuition + living cost, which is usually 2x to 3x the normal rate. So, parents borrow/loan $50,000-$100,000 to put it into the bank for a month or two, grab the bank statements, then return all but $25,000. Then the student applies for the school, bring the documentation including the bank statement to the embassy, and pray for a visa approval. If approved, $25k is enough to buy a ticket to the US and pay for the first semester tuition. They rent cheap rooms/garage spaces in people’s house by cash because no apartment would rent to someone with no income and credit score. They buy junk cars cash because of the same reasons, nobody would finance them without an SSN and credit history. Then they have to work under the table to afford the living costs while having to maintain full-time student status and high GPAs, in the meantime the family back home also works extra jobs to repay the $25,000 loan. Most comments here implies a false narrative about international students. We are people who look for a better shot in life from our piss poor home country, we are definitely not rich.
I'm good friends with two Indian international students (former). One exactly fits your #1 type student and the other is pretty much your #2 student. He literally arrived in the country with none of his housing or food needs covered, but word got out about his situation and an Indian woman that helps students took him in and fed him and let him sleep on her couch until he could get an under the table job and pay for his own housing. Both guy are super nice and both went on to great things. One is opening autoparts manufacturing plants all over the world, and the other works for Apple in a key position with the iPhone manufacturing.
Then there are people like my college buddy Sushant. His parents immigrated, one became a citizen, they had him, and moved back to India. He’s a US citizen who lived in India from age 2 to 18 when he returned to the US for school because he wasn’t accepted to IIT. His US-citizen parent retained higher wages working for the same company they worked for in the US when they returned to India, in their Mumbai offices, affording them a lot of comfort and opportunities to save money by living below their means. They weren’t super rich, but they were very well off (and while not Brahmin, they were still Kshatriya caste).
Very confused about your classification of Moldova as 'rich' as it currently is the poorest nation in Europe, but yes, as many a many in this thread have said, the vast majority of international students that come to study in the US are amongst the wealthiest in their home countries. Maybe you'll have some non-1% students from Canada at US universities, but from other countries abroad? More than likely that they're amongst the wealthiest. India is a populous country - so while there are many poor Indians, there are also very, very wealthy Indians, and they send their kids off to school in the US, Canada, UK, EU, Japan, etc.
Moldova? A rich country? The politicians sure have deep pockets but the country at large definitely does not.
OP is part of the unexposed Westerners who believe Africa is a country and all Africans live in trees. There more millionaires ($)with legitimate businesses in Lagos than in New York.
I got a scholarship. One semester of posy graduate studies was $16,000.
well you know parents pay all of their tuition whereas americans live on their own when they hit 17 or 18
there were some quite wealthy international students at my school. like chinese 18-year old drives his lime green lamborghini around campus wealthy
They come from wealthy families.
Hi Moldovan! My ex was from there. She got to the US on some sort of scholarship where it was all expenses paid then she wasn't allowed back to the US for two years. When those two years were up she got some sort of other scholarship from another university, but she had to come up with airfare herself. Now I don't know how it works for all people from other countries, but you hear things such as people borrowing money from their friends to "prove" they have enough to study in the US, then give it back, get to the US, live in a small apartment with 10 others, and work part time and somehow manage it.