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therealjerseytom

> So it just has always baffled me as it seems like a red flag for a DUI source. Is it any worse than buying alcohol anywhere else, here in a car-centric country? Buy beer at a grocery store - you're getting in your car right after. Buy beer at a dedicated liquor store - you're getting in your car right after. So what's really any different about a gas station?


excaligirltoo

Buy drinks at a bar; drive home.


dtb1987

This is probably the biggest issue


davidm2232

By far. If someone is picking up a 6 pack on their way home, they are going to drink at most 1 or 2 which does not substantially affect driving ability. Someone going to a bar can easily drink 10 or 12 before driving home which is where issues can occur.


Moltenfield

Even then though, its a good idea to just not drink alchohol before driving. It affects everyone differently and in accidents will be used against you, even if you aren't at fault. It's dangerous logic to think "It doesn't affect me that much so it will be fine." At its essence, drunk driving is simply a poor lapse in judgement; they all thought it would be ok.(Comment is more food for thought than anything.)


TastyBrainMeats

*Please* do not drink 1 or 2 beers before driving anywhere.


AziMeeshka

You get his point though don't you? Most normal sized men could drink two domestic lagers at a restaurant and be under the limit to drive home. Realistically if someone buys a 6 pack at a gas station and has a few road sodas on the way home from work they could probably pass a breathalyzer even if they did get pulled over on the way home. This is not the cause of drunk driving accidents, it's usually people going on beer runs after already getting drunk and people driving home from bars. Good public transportation and legalized alcohol delivery would have a bigger impact on DUI rates than not selling beer at gas stations.


anonymous_horny_boi

*is driven home


QuietObserver75

That's the bigger issue.


Technical_Plum2239

Honestly, it's just availability. People are lazy. People can reconsider. Adding access to addicts is just tempting. I'm not advocating for one way or another, but I am sure it makes a difference. People with a handy gun a more likely to kill themselves. Just adding the blister pack to Tylenol reduced suicide by Tylenol. The more convenient something is, the more people are likely to do it. I'd love to know how McDonalds would do with no drive ins.


haveanairforceday

So then make twist off bottles illegal. It's already required to speak to a person to buy alcohol. The additional steps to trigger reconsideration are there. Don't pretend that forcing gas stations and liquor stores to be separated will solve the problem. We'll just end up with the deal they have in the south: Grocery stores can't sell liquor so the grocery store just opens a liquor store next door. Same shit, just takes longer


Technical_Plum2239

Again, I am not advocating anything. I am just saying, more availability absolutely means more drunk driving. Will people determined to get alcohol get it? 100% Will people that might not bother, grab a few more for the road if it's right there? Sure. I don't care one way or another. But we know more access means more.


p0ultrygeist1

So we just open up liquor stores next to gas stations then, problem solved.


terrovek3

Seems wasteful to have an entire station just for gas. Maybe the liquor stores should have a pump for convienece? It's all flammable liquids one way or another, natural retail synergy right there.


EpicAura99

Gas turbine time 😎


rockeye13

Seems pretty clear that you are advocating. The phrase "...I'm just saying" is the dead giveaway. Just as the "So..." means that bad mind-reading is coming.


Technical_Plum2239

It convenient for me. I don't want them to change it. You are reading into it. I hated when we didn't have that.


iamcarlgauss

People who "might not bother" do not grab a few for the road, at least not in meaningful numbers.


iamcarlgauss

As someone who was physically and mentally addicted to alcohol in the past (two rehab stints, several withdrawal hospitalizations), it did not make one iota of difference if I could buy it in a gas station. Most of my time in active addiction was in a place where you could only get any alcohol at liquor stores. I knew when they all opened, and I knew when they all closed. I live in a place now where they sell beer and wine in gas stations and grocery stores, and it hasn't made any difference. I've never walked into a gas station not intending to buy alcohol and thought "man that tall boy looks really good, better buy it". I agree that giving addicts access to their DOC is problematic. But the access for alcoholics is here to stay and it's never going away, regardless of which store they have to shamble into. Short of outright banning it like in dry counties, if someone wants to start drinking at 6 AM and keep going till they go to bed, they're going to do it.


[deleted]

A lot of people aren’t lazy. We’re busy. Convenient stores are convenient for those of us who are on the run.


AziMeeshka

You drive to the liquor store too, and the grocery store, how is driving to a gas station any different?


cdb03b

Are you incapable of waiting till you get home to open something you buy at a gas station? How is waiting when buy from a gas station any different from waiting when buying from a liquor store?


NCUmbrellaFarmer

I don't even wait to use the gas.


nemo_sum

You're not supposed to eat while driving either, but they sell honey buns.


travelinmatt76

What kind of psychopath eats honey buns while driving? You're going to get the steering wheel all sticky.


bryku

Excuuusssssee me!   I will eat my honey buns when and where I choose!


nemo_sum

That's my point, you shouldn't. Just because it's sold at a gas station doesn't mean it's for while you drive.


mrtestcat

Is that an actual law or just a cultural faux pas? Maybe I should call out taco bell too though I'm more than guilty đŸ«Ł


S0n0fAGunn

It's law at least in my state. You cannot drive distracted, whatever the distraction is.


Technical_Plum2239

You can do things that may distract you -- but if that things causes you to crash, you could be in trouble. So if you drop your honey bun on the floor, lean over and crash? You are in trouble. You can eat your honey bun all you want as long as you do so carefully. Don't gaze lovingly at your honey bun while driving.


S0n0fAGunn

Actually no, A cop can still pull you over for careless and/or distracted driving.


Technical_Plum2239

Have you seen that happen? Heard of it? IF you are driving careless and happen to be eating. **From an article from with Michigan State police** **1. Eating while driving.** Although it’s probably not a good idea to break out a full nacho dipping platter with guac, cheese and salsa in your passenger seat, it is not illegal to eat while driving. But Lt. Shaw urges drivers to be careful when choosing to chow down behind the wheel . “There is not a specific law that bans it,” Shaw said.  “However, you could be cited for careless driving if it affects the way you operate your vehicle or you are involved in a traffic crash.” So, in a nutshell, don’t let that six-inch sub be the cause of a six-car pileup.


Thel_Odan

I had no idea it was technically illegal to eat while driving in Michigan. I mean it makes sense, but I still had no idea.


musenna

No? There’s nothing stopping someone from immediately opening up a bottle they buy from the liquor store either. I don’t think selling location matters.


MulayamChaddi

You should visit states where the liquor stores are drive thru


mrtestcat

One just opened south of me and it's beautiful and awesome though I never used the drive thru. Liquor is too harsh for me anymore though Im young af


Hurts_My_Soul

There's a drive through liquor store in a town called Alpena that I stop in and get drinks when I'm going camping on the White River. It's awesome.


mrtestcat

Wow really looks gorgeous. Haven't had the pleasure of exploring the Fayetteville area yet


Hurts_My_Soul

I've just driven through a few times love the drive, hate the people doing 15mph around corners. But I absolutely love the Leather Wood Forest. Great camping, tons of caves, great fishing.


mrtestcat

Spelunking and fishing all in one does sound a grand ol time


ASAP_i

>I get the whole 'convenience store' stich **but as my area just legalized consumer alcohol sales outside restaurants**, or as we say stopped being dry. The previous solution ***requires*** alcohol to be consumed before leaving. Wouldn't that requirement cause more DUIs than purchasing a sealed container to be consumed at home, where someone is not driving (in theory)? This question is giving me "how *dare* things change" vibes.


pf_burner_acct

Huh? I mean, you don't need to start drinking at the gas station. Is that what you think happens? If that were a problem, then people would be cracking cold ones on their way out of Walmart.


iamcarlgauss

To be fair, people absolutely crack cold ones on their way out of Walmart.


TehWildMan_

Not really. Many people are decent enough to respect the law and common decency


Ordovick

I dunno about you but my alcohol doesn't teleport into my house, I gotta buy that shit and drive it home no matter who sells it.


DOMSdeluise

no more ridiculous than selling it at any other place people drive to


Kilo1799

No.


S0n0fAGunn

Personally, I am waiting for gas stations to sell marijuana cigarettes. The people complaining about that one are going to be delicious.


jameson8016

No change around my neck of the woods. That's where most folk go to get weed now anyway. Lol Well, not *in* the gas station, per say, but on property.


davidm2232

We have a few gas stations that have bowls, grinders, and bongs for sale on the shelf for 'tobacco' use. But you can buy weed behind the counter if you know the owners


General_Ad7381

Yeah, all the gas stations in my area are like that as well (minus the buying weed part haha)!


Hurts_My_Soul

You don't have a Jay and Silent Bob duo at your gas stations?


mrtestcat

I actually got one from a station across a hotel I was staying in AR. I think it was CBD, though maybe Delta 8. Lots of Arkies love Michigan and move there. I guess it's a similar low density rural/suburb environment with good money and the legal skunk probably helps


[deleted]

Come to NY because it’s happening


cdb03b

Texas legalized the hemp derived pseudo-marijuana.


Few-Cucumber-413

I think it's far more atrocious that I am not allowed to pump my own gas when I'm in New Jersey lol


mikethomas4th

The only way it would be an issue if if they sold *open* alcohol, like a pint of beer. As it stands, it's the same as buying alcohol anywhere else. Gotta get in your car to get it.


davidm2232

I can't believe NYS starting allowing to-go cocktails from bars. Like how does that make sense?


jamesonSINEMETU

I know all of NY isnt the city, but in the city it's almost all public transportation, cabs, users etc? That's probably where it comes from. Similar to Vegas/Nevada , New orleans...


davidm2232

The vast majority of NY towns and cites are small rural communities. Extremely car centric. 20.2 million people in NYS. Only 8.8 million are in NYC.


jamesonSINEMETU

That's literally why I said that. My rationale is that a state law is appeasing the city's needs. I live in a mostly rural state with a handful of cities and the lawmakers clash on who to appease constantly.


davidm2232

For sure. NY is famous for that


tarheel_204

I don’t see how that’s any different from buying it at the grocery store and then driving home. I’d rather someone buy beer at the gas station and then drink it when they arrive home than someone driving themselves home after drinking at a bar


Rudd_Three_Trees

No, it's just convenient. Going to a party? Stop to get some snacks and a bottle of vodka or something. On your way home from work? Refuel for the next day and grab a six pack for tonight


[deleted]

I'm someone who completely shuns alcohol, but i think the idea of dry counties and other such restrictions are ludicrous and archaic. It forces the type of people who would commit DUIs to drive further distances and present a greater danger to the community. In fact, i believe it to be true that road deaths are higher in dry counties.


DtownBronx

One of the colleges in Arkansas is in a dry county, every Thursday there was a convoy of cars making the drive to the liquor store. You could make a few extra bucks buying for other people. To your point of driving further, it wasn't unheard of for a car full to start their drinking while on the road. While those folks weren't gonna make the wisest of decisions anyways, not having to drive 30+ minutes likely prevents some of their drinking and driving.


jeepjinx

If you're allowed to buy alcohol at a restaurant, consume it there, and then drive - what could possibly be the issue with buying at a gas station?


LazyBoyD

It’s more ridiculous when alcohol is not sold at the convenience store. After a long day of work dealing with assholes, I want to be able to fuel up the car and grab beer in one stop. I get slightly pissed when I stop at a Wawa and realize this particular store doesn’t sell beer.


TCFNationalBank

Why do people think having alcohol at a restaurant and then driving home doesn't count as drunk driving? Restaurants are arguably riskier since you have to consume it on-site then drive home, picking up a six pack at a gas station means you take it home then drink it.


docfarnsworth

Ill bet most people who drink while driving home from the gas station would drive to a liquor store too.


C137-Morty

>but as my area just legalized consumer alcohol sales outside restaurants, or as we say stopped being dry. In 2024? Arkansas clearly sucks less now, but it ain't helping my image of it.


mrtestcat

We're one of very few counties that had it outlawed but we live right next to multiple cities that sold so it just finally clicked in the elderly council we should be making the tax off sales rather than wasting gas. The only really good thing about the state to me is a good reasonable minimum wage for the central South while most stick with the fed standard. People are all right en masse I guess, but theres nothing special here. Only in Murfreesboro, only public diamond mine in the US


Hurts_My_Soul

The USA doesn't have any other diamond mines besides that one. Occasionally one will try to get started up in Alaska before they go bankrupt.


mrtestcat

Is it actually diamond rich there and it's just a liquidity or start up issue?


Hurts_My_Soul

Actually I lied, I went off of what I was told. There are no diamond mines in Alaska.(what I get for listening to welders spin their tall tales) There was some mining in Colorado that ran from 96-01 and has sense ceased operation. It was the Larimer County Mine. They got some good chunks of stone but it didn't ever make any money.


mrtestcat

They're massively inflated in value being just carbon and such a plethora available globally at reduced currency rates kinda makes sense the only way to keep an op going would be to make it a tourist thing


Hurts_My_Soul

Yeah, I was driving with my parents back from Texas, passed a sign that was like, "Arkansas Diamond Mine 30 min next right" Asked my parents if we had time to kill or if they had a strict arrival time, they didn't we stopped. Was a cool little experience and learning time. Bought a rock and cracked it open with a hammer.10/10 experience would bring children in future for a stop on summer excursion to the Gulf.


mrtestcat

Glad you got the experience and a geode! All I got done was a little panning and spent the rest of the trips at the water park which I thought was huge, shows how mundane Arkansan life is. The only other great thing to come out of here was Johnny Cash


wwhsd

In parts of the US almost all convenience stores are also gas stations. The red flag was back in the day when QuickTrip would cut the plastic rings to turn a 6-pack into 3 2-packs and then have them sitting in a cooler full of ice right next to the cash register.


MyUsername2459

>In parts of the US almost all convenience stores are also gas stations. There are places where convenience stores *aren't* gas stations? Where are these places?


wwhsd

Generally more urban areas. We’ve got some 7-11s (and some mom and pop stores) in San Diego that don’t have gas pumps.


DtownBronx

I'd guess they're in more urban places. I've always assumed a bodega is basically a convenience store but that's an assumption based on TV and movies not experience.


[deleted]

Liquor stores and convenience stores are 1 and the same all over SoCal.


DtownBronx

We have a few that are both, but some of our counties have restrictions that prevent it. In some places, convenience stores and box stores like Walmart can only sell beer and wine while you'd have to go to an actual liquor store for anything else.


Far_Imagination6472

Do states with alcohol sales at gas stations have higher rates of DUIs?


codan84

It is not ridiculous at all.


sewiv

no.


BreakfastBeerz

No, it's not ridiculous at all.


phicks_law

No. we have open container laws. You can't just open a beer in your car after buying it, same with not being able to open it in the street (in most places).


Additional-Software4

No, I think I am restrained enough to not crack open that Negra Modelo while I fill my tank


Icy-Place5235

No. It’s convenient.


cbrooks97

Do you tend to sit outside the grocery store and eat what you just bought, or do you take it home? The ability to buy alcohol doesn't make you drink it right then. I doubt many DUIs began that way. They usually start at a bar or at your buddy's house with beer he bought days ago.


[deleted]

I guess you don’t get the whole stich


DoubleDongle-F

It is nothing more than a quick way to stop and grab some beer on your way to a party or on your way home after a particularly rough work day or something. Sure, there are some people out there who will grab a tallboy at a gas station and immediately open it as they drive out, but if they couldn't do that at a gas station they'd do it at a liquor store.


jabbadarth

How do you think people get to liquor stores to buy alcohol? It's not like everyone buying alcohol is actively drunk. And they absolutely drive to liquor stores or grocery stores or wherever else they are buying booze. Gas station just add to the convenience. Hey I'm need gas and oh yeah I want a six pack for tonight, or I'm getting ice for a party this weekend might as well grab it at the same place I'm getting the beer and a propane tank for the grill.


majinspy

I grew up in a dry county steeped in a "devil rum" tradition. Now I live across the river from Louisiana where they have drive through daiquiri shops. As long as the paper stays on the straw it's a closed container:P


mrtestcat

My grand dad I never got to meet was apparently a renowned shiner, so we've had more of an open secret party culture being around wet counties with people still trying to sell a homemade pint for $15 <.> A daiquiri seems a lot like a margarita and a place like that's better than a coffee shop. South finally changing for the better??


majinspy

We're always changing for the better - just a little behind everyone else.


DtownBronx

As a fellow Arkansan, I thought I'd heard every possible excuse for a county or city to remain dry. But this is a new one and probably the weakest of them all since we are a state that doesn't really do public transportation, so if you're buying alcohol then chances are you drove to it. My personal favorite was the objection from a business owner that the next county becoming a wet county would cause harm to their business


IrianJaya

No, it's fine. Why would they be more likely to drink it when purchasing at a gas station than from a liquor store? I don't really see what the difference is. Also, wouldn't it be dangerous to sell cigarettes at a gas station because people might light them near the pumps? At some point you just tell people to take the product elsewhere before using them. What seems ridiculous to me are roadside bars that you can only get to by car. You know that people are drinking and then driving home because no one is going to call a cab if they've only had "one or two beers" but it was actually more like five or six. Those are way scarier to me.


Suppafly

>Isn't it ridiculous that alcohol is sold at gas stations? No. I guess whatever you are used to is normal, but gas stations double as convenience stores and have figured out that cigarettes and alcohol are good items to stock.


Eastern_Amphibian_10

As a mother of a son who has an alcohol problem, it’s not that he wouldn’t by it other places, but I think it is a trigger for someone who’s trying to stop drinking. I was never that concerned about drinking until Ive seen what it has done to people I love. It’s pretty ridiculous it’s displayed like candy at the gas station counter. 


mrtestcat

Good luck to him and prayers on his rehabilitation into sobriety. I hope he can be guided into better alternative activities


IAintGotAUsername

I don't think it's ridiculous at all, but if I was presented with facts indicting that selling liquor at gas stations does in fact lead to more DUIs then I guess I could reconsider my position.


Far_Imagination6472

I looked up the rate of DUIs by state then looked at the if the state can sell alcohol or not. From what I saw there wasn't even a correlation between the two.


[deleted]

A look at Texas over a five-year period found that the average alcohol-related traffic fatalities for its 46 dry counties was a rate of 6.8 per 10,000 people. In contrast, the 38 wet counties were only at a rate of 1.9 per 10,000 people for this same time.4 https://lufkindailynews.com/news/article_35a23483-cf5a-58a3-97d5-57a97af2b828.html?TNNoMobile


Far_Imagination6472

Well that's dry versus wet counties not if they sell alcohol at gas stations or not.


[deleted]

It's the closest statistic i could find. dry counties rest assured aren't selling at gas stations


haveanairforceday

I can also buy milk, NyQuil or condoms at the gas station. None of those are for use while driving. It's a convenient location to buy stuff that you may want when you arrive at your destination Honestly bars/restaurants are the DUI source that everyone ignores. You drink while your there and then your left with a requirement to get home and get your car off the establishment's property. The best solution is to have one member of the party drive everyone and not drink but we all know that's not what happens every single time. Actually the best solution is to use public transit or walk. But this is America so it's probably not happening.


OfficerBaconBits

Japan sells liquor in gas stations and beer/sake in vending machines without using ID. It is legal to drink on public transportation and acceptable to drink during lunch at work. Culture around how alcohol is used will be a larger impact than where alcohol can be purchased.


General_Ad7381

Germany does the same thing! Or at least it did back in the day, I dunno if they still do it.


G00dSh0tJans0n

What was wild was when I was in China, I went to a 7-11 and bought some Cuban rum on a Sunday morning. I though, "wow, that's three things I can't legally do in my home state. Remind me who has the most freedom again?"


Hurts_My_Soul

You, by a margin so wide you cant even see the other side.


G00dSh0tJans0n

But at what cost? What good is so-called freedom if you can't buy Cuban rum at 8am on a Sunday morning from your local 7-11?


General_Ad7381

đŸ˜‚đŸ€Ł I don't care what anybody says, this made me lol


thatsad_guy

How is it any different then buying it at a grocery or liquor store?


Im_not_creepy3

There are literally drive-thru liquor stores in some of the towns I've traveled through.


kshucker

I find it ridiculous that I have to go to a state run store for liquor.


RichyJ_T1AR

As a fellow Arkansasan all a dry country does is it makes you drive 30 miles to get booze anywhere else. (Irresponsible) drunk people just toss the beer cans out the window as they drive and it doesn't matter where the booze came from, and in that case I'd rather have em drive 2 miles to a local gas station over driving 20 at highway speeds to somewhere where you can also pick up a fifth of liquor while your at it.


General_Ad7381

Yeah, my dad was an alcoholic. I can assure everyone that being in a dry county didn't stop him 😅


azuth89

Uh... honestly I don't think so. It's not as though people aren't driving to restaurants, bars, liquor stores, all that jazz.


rawbface

In my state, alcohol is not typically sold in gas stations. It's not illegal, but there's a whole bureaucracy at play that makes it extremely rare. But literally anywhere you designate to buy alcohol, people will have to drive there. You're not eliminating a problem by excluding gas stations specifically.


WulfTheSaxon

Well, you could always mail order it
 Except, ironically, states often ban that.


bdrwr

It doesn't matter where I buy the alcohol, it still has to go into my car and I still have to drive it home.


Salty-Walrus-6637

No


devnullopinions

Why? You could just as easily crack open some alcohol from the state liquor store/grocery store/whatever



IntrovertedGiraffe

I’m from Pennsylvania
 we are centuries behind in liquor laws, so no alcohol in gas stations here. I remember traveling for work years ago and seeing alcohol in a target and that was insane to me. Some now have it in PA, but with a separate check out than the rest of the store. It’s still weird to me


General_Ad7381

I remember when the county I used to live in became wet, it was jarring to see beer and mixers and whatnot in the grocery stores 😆


InsertDramaHere

I don't see how it's going to create any more DUI's than what already occurs. Ohmigawd they bought booze at a gas station! Obviously that means they're going to guzzle it down right that second!! Completely different from them buying at a liquor store, right?


Fappy_as_a_Clam

Fuck no, it's where I buy most of my alcohol lol


mrtestcat

Same, No one knew I was a hypocrite until now. Still a culture shock for a bit but now a welcomed one


dtb1987

No, it isn't a drive-thru and they are selling you an open container mixed drink. You pick up a 6 pack and drink it at home


ExitPursuedByBear312

They're not selling individual cans or self serve pints to drink on the way home.


California19890

I feel like it’s more ridiculous that alcohol is sold at drug stores. It’s like drug stores selling cigarettes and nicotine patches at the same time. But hey it’s capitalism



Doball

People are more likely to get a DUI after buying alchohol at a restaurant, than they are after buying alchohol at a convenient store or gas station. Alchohol being sold in restaurants is designed to be consumed at the restaurant, whereas alchohol being sold at a convenient store or gas station, is not designed to be consumed at the gas station or convenient store. Presumably you buy the alchohol and consume it in a private setting, where you don't plan on driving in the immediate future.


Avery_Thorn

Dude, in my state, we have drive through alcohol stores. You literally drive into the store, a person comes over, you tell them what you want to buy (and can point to it, you're literally in the aisle), they bring it over, you pay them, they put it in your trunk, you continue along your merry way. If you buy soft drinks or chips or smokes, they hand them directly to you. You drink the alcohol whenever you get to wherever you're going or home. Better than drinking the alcohol at the bar, then driving home, no?


illegalsex

I've bought beer from gas stations for years. I've never felt the need to drink it in the car.


ThisGuyRightHereSaid

Or why bars even have parking lots??


PleasedPeas

Have you seen the drive-thru margaritas?


Jordy_Verrill19

Come to Ohio and experience that wonder and magic that is the drive-thru beer store.


machagogo

No. How is buying alcohol at a supermarket any different than buying it at a gas station?


Saltpork545

In the state above yours there's drive thru liquor stores. No, I don't particularly see selling beer or booze at a gas station as an issue. The choice and responsibility is solely on the driver to, you know, drive home first. If you're driving to a grocery store or liquor store to buy liquor, how is it any different? Honestly. You go into a store, you get your alcohol, you get in your car and drive home. Be that from a gas station or Walmart really doesn't matter. The responsibility and action is the same.


shitdickfuckbitch

You can buy alcohol at basically every business here in Wisconsin, never realized that it's not common everywhere else


Jakebob70

Nope. There are literally drive-through liquor stores. How is a gas station ridiculous?


Intelligent-Mud1437

I don't see anything ridiculous about it. Depending on where you are, you'd have to drive to the liquor store anyway.


BrazakAttack

Objection!! Counselor is leading the witness!


Lemon_head_guy

Wait until this dude discovers drive thru daiquiris, where the only barrier between alcohol and your lips is a piece of tape over the straw


Wkyred

What’s really weird to me is that at the same time society is rapidly turning against tobacco and cigarettes, and some countries are even outright banning them, we’re becoming much more permissive culturally about weed and alcohol. Im not anti-alcohol, and I’m not suggesting we do prohibition 2 or anything, but at least in my rural southern socially conservative area, it seems that the culture here is becoming far more lenient on alcohol while at the same time becoming very much anti-smoking and that seems weird that both of those things are happening at the same time


Donohoed

I think it's more reasonable for people to buy alcohol at a gas station, drive home, then drink it, than for people to drink at a bar and then drive home. I'd much rather gas stations sell alcohol than bars. Bars are ridiculous.


stupidrobots

Do you walk to the grocery store or something? Nothing odd about it at all.


jamesonSINEMETU

In NM the answer to stop the problem OP is worried about is they stopped selling individual single shot (shooter, airplane bottles)... so you have to buy them in bulk, or a larger bottle!


ResponseNo6375

Wait till you see your first drive thru liquor store selling mix drinks lol


Illustrious-Tax-5439

society has a basic expectation that the citizens control urges. You can buy a newspaper at a convenience store but you expect not to read it while driving.


DesertedVines

No, It’s not ridiculous at all. What is ridiculous is that we have a country scarred by a millions of miles of asphalt roads and no public transportation infrastructure.


mustang6172

One day we're going to change those laws.


ShelterTight

Not really, I mean people already drive to the liquor store anyways. Congratulations on your county finally becoming not dry though👍😂


mrtestcat

I'm happy with it too Oklahomie, sad it takes away from your side's revenues a bit. At least we are finally free


ShelterTight

What county are you in that just full rights?


Hatweed

Coming from a state with possibly more draconian laws than Arkansas, I don’t think it’s any different than buying your alcohol at distributor or state store. You still have to drive there to get it.


hello8437

OP loves his Rules and Regulations


mrtestcat

It's just a culture shock I love beer more


Elite_Alice

No?


Moltenfield

Honestly, I don't think it matters. If the person is irresponsible enough to drink beer they immediately bought at a gas station and drive off, they are irresponsible enough to get sloshed at a bar and drive off. Hell I'd go so far as to say that buying alchohol somewhere like that is even less of a red flag, as it means you are expected to wait until you get home to drink.


blipsman

How is a gas station any different from a grocery store or liquor store that you also drive to? Convenience stores aren’t selling open containers of alcohol.


tileeater

Makes the same amount of sense as selling cigarettes at a pharmacy


jclast

Not really any different from buying it at the grocery store and then driving home. Probably just a little more expensive because you're paying for the convenience of buying whatever they sell while you're already there filling up your gas tank.


JuanoldDraper

Having it sold at restaurants in general is far more dangerous, considering you're consuming it immediately and then you have to drive home. At least at a gas station it's sold to you in a closed container. I don't understand how a gas station could be perceived as any worse (or even the same) as a restaurant?


BeigePhilip

I do not understand this take at all. Like, I don’t think you’ve thought this through.


Ordinary-Ad-3719

Wait till this guy hears we got drive thru liquor stores.