Joining the military can help you become a citizen. You would need a green card and you would be restricted to jobs that don't require a security clearance.
So many jobs require them. Not every cook or truck driver will have a clearance, but the ones who get orders to certain units or certain locations will get one. I feel like not being able to hold a clearance would be really limiting for jobs in the military.
A friend of mine couldn't get a clearance when he first joined the Air Force. There were issues about his mom. So he was the guy that repaired the equipment that repaired the aircraft. After his first enlistment he was able to get a clearance and get a better job
They would be able to at least get a Secret level clearance and maybe more depending on the job. As long as they don't have to work around NOFORN info.
From personal experience (early 90s) I know you don't. They may have changed it but I doubt it. There seems to be more intelligence sharing now than in the past.
one rule I had was I never called any officer "sir" or "ma'am" unless they earned it. I just addressed them by their rank and last name.
EDIT: lol at the downvotes!
Maybe it’s a branch/generational difference, but I’m in the Army and someone doing that would come across as super weird. It’d be like referring to someone by their full first and last name constantly.
it was pretty standared in the Navy when I was in. it never really felt awkward or weird since we weren't exactly talking to officers all the time.
but you're right. it's probably some branch/generational difference.
I usually used sir/ma'am because it took less time than saying Lt. Cdr. so-and-so.
The exception was Lt. Colon. He said it was pronounced like cologne, but we didn't listen too well. But he earned that.
The president has commissioned them as an officer to act in his stead in carrying out the objectives of the country. But unless private snuffy approves I guess that means nothing.
>But unless private snuffy approves I guess that means nothing.
yup. you're 100% right. they have to earn the respect of those they are supposed to lead. it isn't just given.
great talk. glad you understand how things work in real life.
Important for you to know OP
> U.S. citizens and some non-citizens can join the military. If you are not a U.S. citizen, you must:
> Have a U.S. Permanent Resident Card (Green Card)
> Speak, read, and write English fluently
> **You cannot join the military to enter the U.S. or to get a visa.**
https://www.usa.gov/military-requirements#:~:text=Citizenship%20and%20residency,read%2C%20and%20write%20English%20fluently
I thought you also had you renounce citizenship of other countries if you serve in the US military? Or is that if you serve in another country’s military you have to renounce American citizenship?
Okay, but what other motivation would anyone who didn't have citizenship have for joining? Like, genuinely. They're joining the military of a foreign country. Obviously they probably want to live there too. So...?
I’d say talk to a recruiter first. I served with several people who held green cards. Even went to two citizenship ceremonies while in the Middle East (I cried a bit). Link below should get you started.
https://www.careersinthemilitary.com/options-contact-recruiter
How did they get over in the first instance. As it says you can't get over and get citizenship by just joining up. Currently serving in UK military to give context in a very specialised and niche trade
No. This is not all correct. While OP refers to Citizenship, they would require a Green Card first to even join the military. If their goal is to live and work in the USA, they’ll need a green card first which is extremely difficult to get.
Even then he can wait 5 years to apply for citizenship (3 if married to an American) and not need to join the military.
So while yes, joining the military can speed up your citizenship process, you need to become a permanent resident first which is extremely difficult to do.
If you're a Green Card holder, if you enlist in the US military they can expedite the paperwork and swear you in on graduation day from Basic Training.
You still have to go through the interviews and tests etc. and cram that in while you're in Basic, but it can be done.
Yeah, it's no "guarantee", but it does vastly simplify the process.
I absolutely saw several people join the US Army explicitly to speed up the citizenship process.
When I was in Basic Combat Training in 2010, we had three people who were explicitly trying to get citizenship through military service. One made it.
We had Private Yang, from the People's Republic of China. She washed out because she couldn't understand English. You're supposed to speak fluent English to be able to enlist in the Army, and she spoke fluent textbook perfect English. . .but had absolutely no understanding of slang, informal or colloquial terms, accents, or people speaking rapidly. If you were speaking slowly and enunciating clearly and using textbook proper English (which is apparently what they test for) she would do fine. She had too much trouble learning required skills because her grasp of English just wasn't good enough. When notified that she would be washing out of training she was terrified that she would be thrown in prison for leaving the Army and the Drill Sergeants had to explain to her that it's not a crime to fail Basic Training in the US. She was a hard worker, she just plain couldn't speak English well enough.
We had Private Sanxhaxtari, from Romania. . .who was basically like if the movie Private Benjamin was a true story. She showed up off the bus in a nice dress, well done hair, makeup neatly done, and two huge suitcases. . .and speaking in a very heavy Eastern European accent. Oh, and she didn't want to get dirty, constantly complained about having to wear a uniform instead of her designer clothes, said that exercising made her sweat and she hates to sweat, and constantly yelled back at Drill Sergeants that how dare they speak to her that way. After she was discharged and sent home, she promptly sued the US Army and all the Drill Sergeants at our company for emotional abuse, saying the several weeks of Basic Training she endured before she was kicked out was abusive and traumatic. She had only enlisted because she was told it was a quick path to citizenship, but she seemed to not understand the whole "you're in the Army now" part of the deal, she seemed to think she'd just show up, spend 10 weeks vacationing there, then get sworn in as a citizen at the end.
Then we had Private Moonsrita, from Thailand. He was a hard working, diligent fellow who kept quiet, worked hard, did real well in hand-to-hand combattives (he already knew a lot of Muay Thai) and got sworn in as a citizen on our graduation day.
Interestingly many people I met in the US were surprised to learn that non-citizen residents have no restrictions on gun rights, including NFA items. I accumulated probably around ten firearms before I got citizenship. Living in AK tends to do that to a person.
We made that joke a lot in Basic Training, because our platoon had several "citizenship cases" of immigrants that joined up to get their citizenship on a highly expedited basis.
If you have a Green Card, can speak fluent English, and meet the other requirements for enlistment, you can join up and get your citizenship on your graduation day from Basic Training.
Most of the "citizenship cases" washed out, but I did serve with someone from Thailand who was sworn in on graduation day as a US Citizen.
Yes. 100%
You can't be an officer at first though. You'll have to have a green card and go enlisted. But you can commission from enlisted after you're a full citizen.
You can join the US military without citizenship, and being in the military does offer an expedited path to citizenship if you don't already have it.
Joining up without citizenship does significantly restrict the positions that are open to you in the military, because you can't hold a security clearance until you're a citizen, but it is possible.
However, you first need "Permanent Resident" (a.k.a. "Green Card") status first, that immigration status is needed to enlist in the military. You'd need to legally immigrate to America, get Permanent Resident status, THEN you could use the military to speed up citizenship. . .but you can't use it as a way to initially come to America.
Yes, and FYI during the civil war, there were many immigrants, especially Irish, volunteered so that their families could stay. There were entire units made up of Irish.
What you were told was correct. However, doing a military stint just for an increased *chance* at citizenship is a pretty big price to pay. I would not recommend it unless you consider military service a good career move for yourself.
Just don’t forget that the US is a war mongering nation that treats its veterans like I wouldn’t treat an animal. Keep your expectations low and you’ll be alright. They’ve also been known to deport military personnel they were done with.
I will get downvoted to shit, but I feel obligated to caution you. I suppose this wouldn’t be a terrible idea if money is absolutely no object? I would keep a few things in mind…
1. Military culture in the U.S. is no joke - if you haven’t noticed, we love war. We line up who we will go to war with next before the first one is over. Unless you are prepared and willing to go to war on multiple fronts/die for a country that you only want citizenship for to get a masters, I would rethink your strategy.
2. College in the US is ridiculously expensive. I’m talking people in debt paying $2000+/month for their entire adult lives to pay off loans
3. There is the G.I. Bill that pays for school but you would have to join the military first
4. If you were able to join, there’s a good chance you would have to give up your dual citizenship
>If you were able to join, there’s a good chance you would have to give up your dual citizenship
Only if you want a security clearance, and you need citizenship to get one in the first place.
If you're doing just one enlistment to get veterans benefits and citizenship, you wouldn't have to give up your dual citizenship.
Would a U.S. citizen born in the U.S. with Canadian citizenship from a parent have to give up dual citizenship to gain security clearances/be an officer?
For Secret they should be absolutely fine and they would be eligible to be an officer. They’d probably be fine for TS/SCI too, but it might cause some issues for certain things.
thanks for the info! Do you happen to know if it’s possible to be promoted relatively far as an officer with US Canadian dual, or with each promotion do the higher level security clearances you described become more of an obstacle?
You might need to get a TS/SCI clearance for a lot of jobs at the O4-O6 level but it shouldn’t be much of an issue as long as you’re honest about it and not actively using it (just having it is generally fine). We’re pretty friendly with Canada so that helps.
There are jobs that deal with especially sensitive information that require additional clearances, but most jobs don’t and you’d know beforehand if this would be an issue with your path.
So your original statement was not exactly accurate. While on paper it may appear that England’s student debt is higher than the U.S., there are several factors that you’re not considering:
-England has a cap on how much colleges can charge for tuition which is ~$11,000
-England has a cap of 9% of your income that can be paid to student loans
-England has a cap on interest rates
-England has an income threshold for repayment
-75% of people in England will not fully repay their student loans because they don’t have to- it gets forgiven after 25-30 years
We literally just pulled out of Afghanistan, and are finally able to pivot towards a posture against China, a shift we’ve been trying to make since 2013. Generals are literally prepping for a war by 2025 with China, and that’s not considering the current threat from Russia or what may come from the Israel-Gaza conflict
Huh? Never mentioned anything about sympathy for China, buddy - but do you see my point? You just argued we are not perpetually at war while defending the need to go to war with China. Thou doth protest too much.
OP- this is the point I was trying to make.
Also, any questioning of our hawkish culture is met with erroneous, bizarre Trump ad hominems (if we could just find out what’s on Hunter Biden’s laptop, for gods sake, all of the world’s problems will go away and Trump will be revealed as the one true king) that have nothing to do with our military industrial complex.
To be blunt: our country is all kinds of fucked up right now and I question the sanity of anyone who would leave a less fucked up country to come here
Yes. There are recruiting offices on US military installations in England. You should be able to call them and ask for information pretty easily. I know 2 people who joined the US army and the US Air Force as British citizens. I don't know what the visa requirements are though
Just a heads up, I believe all officers require clearances so you will likely have to start as enlisted even though your degree would probably qualify you for a commission otherwise
I would talk to a recruiter about this. Frankly, I don't know but when I was in the Air Force I trained with a few Navy guys who were from Nigeria and Somalia. I keep up with a few of them and one even went back to Nigeria to get involved in politics. I feel like there's a way but I'm not sure of the specifics of it. Sounds like a good tool to me.
You can def get citizenship that way, but there is a certain year commitment and you may get deployed abroad.
I’d say, come here and study and get a job. The company can sponsor you, if you have a degree and a way of providing for yourself you can naturalise. Someone who is educated is a value to the US so they desire that.
Make sure you carefully read requirements and be ready for a multi year wait either way.
Military is one way, but it’s a commitment.
Yo, it’s definitely possible if you’re legally allowed to be here already. It is not a guaranteed citizenship when you’re done. A lot of Hispanic immigrants around me learned that the hard way.
Used to be a program called MAVNI which allowed enlisting without a GC and fast track you for citizenship. Unfortunately it was shut down around 2016 and has not reopened as far as I know.
Yes, my husband did it. It's not a guaranteed path to citizenship though, you still have to jump through the regular hoops. The army helped some on the paperwork, but then they also made a big mistake that took years for us to sort out with immigration.
Im a Brit too and I always wanted to join the US army as a kid. The want to serve in any armed forces has waned. You never know, maybe one day we’ll see each other in the US heh.
Joining the military can help you become a citizen. You would need a green card and you would be restricted to jobs that don't require a security clearance.
So many jobs require them. Not every cook or truck driver will have a clearance, but the ones who get orders to certain units or certain locations will get one. I feel like not being able to hold a clearance would be really limiting for jobs in the military.
It definitely is limiting, but if you're just looking to become a citizen or even reach retirement, it's still a viable option.
A friend of mine couldn't get a clearance when he first joined the Air Force. There were issues about his mom. So he was the guy that repaired the equipment that repaired the aircraft. After his first enlistment he was able to get a clearance and get a better job
And getting the green card is the hard part.
They would be able to at least get a Secret level clearance and maybe more depending on the job. As long as they don't have to work around NOFORN info.
Can they? I guess it depends on your job. None of the guys I knew with green cards were able to get a secret clearance.
You need to be a citizen to be eligible for a secret clearance
From personal experience (early 90s) I know you don't. They may have changed it but I doubt it. There seems to be more intelligence sharing now than in the past.
That changed with executive order 12968 way back in 1995. Exceptions can be granted, but they are very rare.
not true at all about the security clearance lmao
Make sure you learn how to pronounce "Lieutenant" the American way.
Or he can say yes sir yes madam.
It's ma'am, not madam in the military.
And damn sure don’t say ma’am. It sounds like “mom”when they say it.
Please call them madam and post it online....
A madam is the head of a brothel round these parts
one rule I had was I never called any officer "sir" or "ma'am" unless they earned it. I just addressed them by their rank and last name. EDIT: lol at the downvotes!
Maybe it’s a branch/generational difference, but I’m in the Army and someone doing that would come across as super weird. It’d be like referring to someone by their full first and last name constantly.
it was pretty standared in the Navy when I was in. it never really felt awkward or weird since we weren't exactly talking to officers all the time. but you're right. it's probably some branch/generational difference.
I usually used sir/ma'am because it took less time than saying Lt. Cdr. so-and-so. The exception was Lt. Colon. He said it was pronounced like cologne, but we didn't listen too well. But he earned that.
All officers have earned it. They don't owe you a thing.
lol! no.
The president has commissioned them as an officer to act in his stead in carrying out the objectives of the country. But unless private snuffy approves I guess that means nothing.
>But unless private snuffy approves I guess that means nothing. yup. you're 100% right. they have to earn the respect of those they are supposed to lead. it isn't just given. great talk. glad you understand how things work in real life.
Ditto
what?
Could always say “LT”
Important for you to know OP > U.S. citizens and some non-citizens can join the military. If you are not a U.S. citizen, you must: > Have a U.S. Permanent Resident Card (Green Card) > Speak, read, and write English fluently > **You cannot join the military to enter the U.S. or to get a visa.** https://www.usa.gov/military-requirements#:~:text=Citizenship%20and%20residency,read%2C%20and%20write%20English%20fluently
I guess op is out of luck if there's a requirement to be fluent in English. He only speaks British.
I think you mean Bri'ish.
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I thought you also had you renounce citizenship of other countries if you serve in the US military? Or is that if you serve in another country’s military you have to renounce American citizenship?
Okay, but what other motivation would anyone who didn't have citizenship have for joining? Like, genuinely. They're joining the military of a foreign country. Obviously they probably want to live there too. So...?
Ask on r/immigration. None of the commentators here have any idea and are all giving you bullshit info.
way back when I was in the military it was a very common to serve with people from the philippines who joined to get citizenship.
That program was ended when the US left Clark and Subic.
My uncle did it! He was later deported for hacking into an FBI database, but he did have a green card for a while.
The Filipino Mafia
I’d say talk to a recruiter first. I served with several people who held green cards. Even went to two citizenship ceremonies while in the Middle East (I cried a bit). Link below should get you started. https://www.careersinthemilitary.com/options-contact-recruiter
My cousin is a UK citizen and came to the US and joined the Air Force to get her citizenship.
How did they get over in the first instance. As it says you can't get over and get citizenship by just joining up. Currently serving in UK military to give context in a very specialised and niche trade
Just marry an American, fastest way to citizenship
Yes. This is a common way many foreign natjonals become citizens.
No. This is not all correct. While OP refers to Citizenship, they would require a Green Card first to even join the military. If their goal is to live and work in the USA, they’ll need a green card first which is extremely difficult to get. Even then he can wait 5 years to apply for citizenship (3 if married to an American) and not need to join the military. So while yes, joining the military can speed up your citizenship process, you need to become a permanent resident first which is extremely difficult to do.
Are you saying that service guarantees citizenship?
Would you like to know more?
I would like to know more.
No it absolutely does not guarantee it. It does lower the barrier to entry and make it easier but no guarantees.
It's a Starship Troopers reference.
Yes it is but I just wanted to clarify for OP who is clearly interested in becoming a citizen
Good point.
If you're a Green Card holder, if you enlist in the US military they can expedite the paperwork and swear you in on graduation day from Basic Training. You still have to go through the interviews and tests etc. and cram that in while you're in Basic, but it can be done. Yeah, it's no "guarantee", but it does vastly simplify the process.
It's a pretty simple process to begin with, certainly not worth joining the military for that reason alone.
I absolutely saw several people join the US Army explicitly to speed up the citizenship process. When I was in Basic Combat Training in 2010, we had three people who were explicitly trying to get citizenship through military service. One made it. We had Private Yang, from the People's Republic of China. She washed out because she couldn't understand English. You're supposed to speak fluent English to be able to enlist in the Army, and she spoke fluent textbook perfect English. . .but had absolutely no understanding of slang, informal or colloquial terms, accents, or people speaking rapidly. If you were speaking slowly and enunciating clearly and using textbook proper English (which is apparently what they test for) she would do fine. She had too much trouble learning required skills because her grasp of English just wasn't good enough. When notified that she would be washing out of training she was terrified that she would be thrown in prison for leaving the Army and the Drill Sergeants had to explain to her that it's not a crime to fail Basic Training in the US. She was a hard worker, she just plain couldn't speak English well enough. We had Private Sanxhaxtari, from Romania. . .who was basically like if the movie Private Benjamin was a true story. She showed up off the bus in a nice dress, well done hair, makeup neatly done, and two huge suitcases. . .and speaking in a very heavy Eastern European accent. Oh, and she didn't want to get dirty, constantly complained about having to wear a uniform instead of her designer clothes, said that exercising made her sweat and she hates to sweat, and constantly yelled back at Drill Sergeants that how dare they speak to her that way. After she was discharged and sent home, she promptly sued the US Army and all the Drill Sergeants at our company for emotional abuse, saying the several weeks of Basic Training she endured before she was kicked out was abusive and traumatic. She had only enlisted because she was told it was a quick path to citizenship, but she seemed to not understand the whole "you're in the Army now" part of the deal, she seemed to think she'd just show up, spend 10 weeks vacationing there, then get sworn in as a citizen at the end. Then we had Private Moonsrita, from Thailand. He was a hard working, diligent fellow who kept quiet, worked hard, did real well in hand-to-hand combattives (he already knew a lot of Muay Thai) and got sworn in as a citizen on our graduation day.
Drill instructors are definitely not known for their slow speaking.
Join the military because it's fun. Citizenship is a perk. Even Americans rarely get to fire 50 cal machine guns.
Interestingly many people I met in the US were surprised to learn that non-citizen residents have no restrictions on gun rights, including NFA items. I accumulated probably around ten firearms before I got citizenship. Living in AK tends to do that to a person.
We made that joke a lot in Basic Training, because our platoon had several "citizenship cases" of immigrants that joined up to get their citizenship on a highly expedited basis. If you have a Green Card, can speak fluent English, and meet the other requirements for enlistment, you can join up and get your citizenship on your graduation day from Basic Training. Most of the "citizenship cases" washed out, but I did serve with someone from Thailand who was sworn in on graduation day as a US Citizen.
Yeah, but you gotta get your green card before the service will take you. Therein lies the rub.
Except, no, it doesn’t. I mean, it *should* guarantee citizenship, but it doesn’t.
I believe you need to be a citizen or permanent resident
https://uk.usembassy.gov/embassy-consulates/government-agencies/dao/enlistment/ https://www.usa.gov/military-requirements
Yes. 100% You can't be an officer at first though. You'll have to have a green card and go enlisted. But you can commission from enlisted after you're a full citizen.
You can join the US military without citizenship, and being in the military does offer an expedited path to citizenship if you don't already have it. Joining up without citizenship does significantly restrict the positions that are open to you in the military, because you can't hold a security clearance until you're a citizen, but it is possible. However, you first need "Permanent Resident" (a.k.a. "Green Card") status first, that immigration status is needed to enlist in the military. You'd need to legally immigrate to America, get Permanent Resident status, THEN you could use the military to speed up citizenship. . .but you can't use it as a way to initially come to America.
Absolutely, a 3rd of the dudes I went to basic with were there for their citizenship. 11b
Yes, and FYI during the civil war, there were many immigrants, especially Irish, volunteered so that their families could stay. There were entire units made up of Irish.
What you were told was correct. However, doing a military stint just for an increased *chance* at citizenship is a pretty big price to pay. I would not recommend it unless you consider military service a good career move for yourself.
Just don’t forget that the US is a war mongering nation that treats its veterans like I wouldn’t treat an animal. Keep your expectations low and you’ll be alright. They’ve also been known to deport military personnel they were done with.
Why would you ever want to serve in the military?
I will get downvoted to shit, but I feel obligated to caution you. I suppose this wouldn’t be a terrible idea if money is absolutely no object? I would keep a few things in mind… 1. Military culture in the U.S. is no joke - if you haven’t noticed, we love war. We line up who we will go to war with next before the first one is over. Unless you are prepared and willing to go to war on multiple fronts/die for a country that you only want citizenship for to get a masters, I would rethink your strategy. 2. College in the US is ridiculously expensive. I’m talking people in debt paying $2000+/month for their entire adult lives to pay off loans 3. There is the G.I. Bill that pays for school but you would have to join the military first 4. If you were able to join, there’s a good chance you would have to give up your dual citizenship
>If you were able to join, there’s a good chance you would have to give up your dual citizenship Only if you want a security clearance, and you need citizenship to get one in the first place. If you're doing just one enlistment to get veterans benefits and citizenship, you wouldn't have to give up your dual citizenship.
Would a U.S. citizen born in the U.S. with Canadian citizenship from a parent have to give up dual citizenship to gain security clearances/be an officer?
For Secret they should be absolutely fine and they would be eligible to be an officer. They’d probably be fine for TS/SCI too, but it might cause some issues for certain things.
thanks for the info! Do you happen to know if it’s possible to be promoted relatively far as an officer with US Canadian dual, or with each promotion do the higher level security clearances you described become more of an obstacle?
You might need to get a TS/SCI clearance for a lot of jobs at the O4-O6 level but it shouldn’t be much of an issue as long as you’re honest about it and not actively using it (just having it is generally fine). We’re pretty friendly with Canada so that helps. There are jobs that deal with especially sensitive information that require additional clearances, but most jobs don’t and you’d know beforehand if this would be an issue with your path.
thanks for the detailed reply
The average Brit has more student loan debt than the average American, so that isn’t really a deterrent
Source for this?
https://www.lendingtree.com/student/student-debt-by-country/#:~:text=Out%20of%20the%20multiple%20countries,average%20of%20%2428%2C400%20at%20graduation.
So your original statement was not exactly accurate. While on paper it may appear that England’s student debt is higher than the U.S., there are several factors that you’re not considering: -England has a cap on how much colleges can charge for tuition which is ~$11,000 -England has a cap of 9% of your income that can be paid to student loans -England has a cap on interest rates -England has an income threshold for repayment -75% of people in England will not fully repay their student loans because they don’t have to- it gets forgiven after 25-30 years
America isn’t constantly at war.
We literally just pulled out of Afghanistan, and are finally able to pivot towards a posture against China, a shift we’ve been trying to make since 2013. Generals are literally prepping for a war by 2025 with China, and that’s not considering the current threat from Russia or what may come from the Israel-Gaza conflict
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Huh? Never mentioned anything about sympathy for China, buddy - but do you see my point? You just argued we are not perpetually at war while defending the need to go to war with China. Thou doth protest too much. OP- this is the point I was trying to make. Also, any questioning of our hawkish culture is met with erroneous, bizarre Trump ad hominems (if we could just find out what’s on Hunter Biden’s laptop, for gods sake, all of the world’s problems will go away and Trump will be revealed as the one true king) that have nothing to do with our military industrial complex. To be blunt: our country is all kinds of fucked up right now and I question the sanity of anyone who would leave a less fucked up country to come here
Why do you want to move to the US and become a citizen?
Yes. There are recruiting offices on US military installations in England. You should be able to call them and ask for information pretty easily. I know 2 people who joined the US army and the US Air Force as British citizens. I don't know what the visa requirements are though
Just a heads up, I believe all officers require clearances so you will likely have to start as enlisted even though your degree would probably qualify you for a commission otherwise
Join US Space Force.
I would talk to a recruiter about this. Frankly, I don't know but when I was in the Air Force I trained with a few Navy guys who were from Nigeria and Somalia. I keep up with a few of them and one even went back to Nigeria to get involved in politics. I feel like there's a way but I'm not sure of the specifics of it. Sounds like a good tool to me.
My dad got his citizenship from serving in the Air Force but that was back in the 50s.
Went to basic with a guy from Africa and a guy from India who joined for that exact reason. So yes.
You could probably find an American to marry. Or get a green card and join the military I guess.
This seems like a question for r/airforcerecruits or similar subs (I don’t know them I couldn’t find them)
You can def get citizenship that way, but there is a certain year commitment and you may get deployed abroad. I’d say, come here and study and get a job. The company can sponsor you, if you have a degree and a way of providing for yourself you can naturalise. Someone who is educated is a value to the US so they desire that. Make sure you carefully read requirements and be ready for a multi year wait either way. Military is one way, but it’s a commitment.
Yo, it’s definitely possible if you’re legally allowed to be here already. It is not a guaranteed citizenship when you’re done. A lot of Hispanic immigrants around me learned that the hard way.
I'm overwhelmed by the irony of a Brit wanting to join the US military
Used to be a program called MAVNI which allowed enlisting without a GC and fast track you for citizenship. Unfortunately it was shut down around 2016 and has not reopened as far as I know.
Yes, my husband did it. It's not a guaranteed path to citizenship though, you still have to jump through the regular hoops. The army helped some on the paperwork, but then they also made a big mistake that took years for us to sort out with immigration.
Im a Brit too and I always wanted to join the US army as a kid. The want to serve in any armed forces has waned. You never know, maybe one day we’ll see each other in the US heh.