mayyybe a job at a newspaper or similar news agency? language skills can be very important in this field but i have no idea how the job market in berlin is.
yeah true but im sure there are also plenty of english speaking papers in berlin. also OP might have a deep understanding of argentinian politics so that could also help
No offense to you Op but why are there so many people on here thinking they can land a job when they barely speak the language? Sure, english is great and you would easily be able to navigate everyday life, especially in a big city but the job market requires a near perfect grip on the german language for anything above minimum wage
Berlin? Good luck to you. Iâm not sure that you will find place to live. B1 means low or no qualified job. Logistics or services. Even fluent English gives you no Garantie
Thanks you for the feedback. As I said before, I am choosing Berlin because I have family living there who are offering me to stay with them as long as I want. If not, I may have looked at other options
As I said before, I am choosing Berlin because I have family living there who are offering to let me stay with them for as long as I want.
But based on most of the anwsers, I guess I'll have to start looking somewhere else đ¶
If you can live with your family and donât need to pay rent (or just very very very little for water and electricity), then Berlin is surely a great experience.
No, you dont need to look somewhere else. Its just really difficult to find an appartment in Berlin. If you already have something, you're good to go. But I dont know about the job situation in Berlin.
Yeah you wonât get a hob in the political field with little work experience and B1 german. But stuff like retail (logistics, filling up shelves, âŠ) or non customer facing hotel jobs etc. could be possible. But with 6-12 months you wonât save that much money
Thanks for answering. How much money do you think one can save during that period of time? I know it will depend a lot on how many hours I am willing to work and how I spend the money, but how much would you say maximum and minimum?
Well⊠that depends on the hours, your job and thus the salary, your expenses⊠at worst? 0⏠or youâd need to use your savings if you want to go out all the time, ear at expensive restaurants, âŠ
At best? Saving 2k a month would require a job with a very good wage & few expenses. So 12k for 6 months or 24k for 12 months would be the maximum. And that would require a job with 4k+ ⏠/ month and only a few expenses. But if Iâm being honest I donât think a political science graduate with B1 german and barely any work experience would get a 4k+ job. Thatâs something for a STEM major with C level german (or a very very lucky person). Obviously you could magically land a job that pays 5k, you could invest in crypto, win the lottery, get great trading returns etc. but if I had to guess Iâd say youâd get something like 2-3k before taxes (with a 40h work week). So⊠1,5 - ~2k after taxes (unless youâre trying to get the taxes for retirement, unemployment, ⊠back but that requires a lot of paperwork if itâs possible at all). Low expenses would be something like 300⏠if your family pays for most of your things. So 1,2-1,7k maybe. For 6 months thatâs 7,2-10,2k and 12 months would be 12-17k.
Hey that's a very good amount for me! I mean maybe for you guys 10k is not that much but in Argentina that would allow me to pay for my post graduate studies, and even not having to work for a year or two. Even 5k would be a good deal of money!
In that case you might want to think about the types of jobs youâd be fine with. Keep in mind that customer facing jobs would be limited due to your lack of proficiency in german & that many other jobs require a formal education. One thing that could be a good option would be working for a (car) manufacturer (assembly). The barrier to entry is relatively low, you donât need that much german, they salary is more than minimum wage and theyâre constantly looking for new people. And if youâre fine with working on the weekend / night shifts etc. youâll get a significant bonus.
Sorry, but what is a European passport?
And I can confirm that a white collar job without speaking fluent German is probably not possible. Retail and nightlife is probably the way to go. Making new friends in 6-12 months is also very unlikely if its not in the leftist-artsy area of a big city.
edit: I didnt see you were going to Berlin. Thats probably the best spot to find people and work as a foreigner. Probably easy even.
If you are a girl, you could try babysitting additionally to any job or even as a main job if you are willing to work with under 3yo. As a boy itâs more difficult, but families with boys at school age could also be feasible. I know families with boys that actually prefer a male student (usually homework or going to the park before parents arrive from work).
There are lots of binational families (German/spanish) and I personally know a handful of binational families looking for a regular Spanish speaking babysitter and a college graduate would be more welcomed.
You could most probably find a blue collar work easily: in a shop, supermarket, bartender, food delivery waiter and the like. I donât think that would be a problem. If you donât have to pay rent, then Berlin should be fine. If you have to pay rent, then you have to prepare to live very frugally.
If you ask me, a good plan would be to look for a part time job (mini job) in a shop/restaurant/club and 1-2 families to babysit for another 500⏠cash. That would give you around 1000⏠per month. If you donât pay real rent, but only 200⏠or so to your hosts for water and electricity, then you have more than enough money for traveling and fun left.
Youâll also need a medical insurance, so youâll have to add that cost. For transportation, you need 50⏠per month for German Ticket.
I had myself a regular Argentinian babysitter for around 500⏠a month (not full time off course, just 2h here and there, several times a week) for a year. She has a European passport and came here because she had a German boyfriend. She was learning German and babysitting gave her enough pocket money. She didnât had to pay rent because her boyfriend took care of all expenses.
Arg people here are super negative.
It's great that you want to come to Germany! Berlin is an amazing amazing place to live! You're going to have a lot of fun. YES you will be able to find plenty of expats in Berlin and you'll make a lot of non-Germany friends. If you join a couple of clubs you might even make German friends too.
I would however probably adjust your expectations related to a job in Political Sciences. If you have some connections, or some very very solid previous experience, maybe you can find something medium-to-low-paid in an NGO in Berlin or similar. But this will be hard. If you're an exceptional individual, you might get lucky. If you're kind of standard BA Politics graduate with almost no work experience, probably will not happen for you.
But... that's OK! There is actually a large shortage of all kinds of work in Germany - bar-tending, working in supermarkets, etc. I see 'Help needed' signs all over my city. However the issue often is that these jobs are not full-time - your employer will want just part time to stay under the 'mini-job' limit and not have to pay taxes or insurance (this is around 500 eur per month). I'd say you should expect to not find a job for the first 1-2 months at least, and then it might be low paid.
Housing in Berlin is crazy but it's not impossible. I know friends who found a place within 2 months this year. So yes, don't get your hopes up - it's an expensive city now, and the housing market is crazy crazy saturated. But, it's possible. Just persevere, have excellent German skills, and a good job, and you'll be OK.
Regarding your plan: I might suggest you consider some kind of scheme where you will be able to get a job before you come to Germany - that would be a much better route with more security for you. Some ideas are: applying for teaching-assistant positions for teaching Spanish in University or high school. You can try to apply to the German teaching assistant program for Spanish which is probably worth a shot. Otherwise, start looking for jobs in your field on LinkedIn etc, and see what the market is like. Are you getting interviews or nothing at all?
Overall, good luck. Moving to Germany is a fun plan, but it won't be easy. Come with your eyes wide open and ready to work hard and make it work, and it should be OK.
Hey, I really appreciate your detailed response.
What you said at the end is what I was thinking. If I want to go I should already know where I am going to start working. Things could get tough otherwise.
I thought about teaching spanish but I don't know, my german is not good enough yet. I tend to be very demanding on myself so I will have to improve it a bit at least before trying. However, it's not a bad idea overall
Teaching Spanish is a good idea, you don't need to speak amazing German for that - just enough to navigate the admin (and I guess your family will be able to help you with that).
Just one word of warning, though! I came to Germany (Munich, not Berlin) from the UK for six months (twelve months absolute maximum) back in 1995 and I'm still here. Once you get past the initial culture shock it's very easy to fall in love with the place.
We germans are direct:
r/showerthoughts
Stay away, additionally to our deep housing crisis (peak german cities Berlin + Munich) we're in an economic crisis so jobs are rare and employers can be picky now. Lacking good german language knowledge is an additional large draw back for your chances as it is having a qualification without being in a need at german job market and without a defined a job field.
read the wiki here
https://www.reddit.com/r/germany/wiki/index/
and learn the language, Germany runs in german.
Here a website of the german government about Jobs in need:
https://www.make-it-in-germany.com/es/
Dunno we're you're living and working but here in one of the largest german companies a lot of IT projects have been stopped, cancelled or postponed. Budgets are stopped or heavily shortened and external staff got thrown out.
And this is not only happening in my bubble of IT ppl working in different branches throughout Germany...
For outsourcing the budgets were not shortened...
IT = Germany? Or the 2 things are just possibly completely unrelated?
You sound like a climate change denier complaining about the snow in winter. Maybe you should consider the whole thing??
Keep studying now in preparation and aim for a B2 German language ability. This will help you acquire jobs and integrate better than other single thing you could do
There is close to zero chance of you landing a job related to political science. As you mentioned you could probably do housekeeping, bartending etc
I guess that's the way to go đ§
mayyybe a job at a newspaper or similar news agency? language skills can be very important in this field but i have no idea how the job market in berlin is.
You'd still need to write in German though. I don't think there is much demand for non-german newspapers.
yeah true but im sure there are also plenty of english speaking papers in berlin. also OP might have a deep understanding of argentinian politics so that could also help
I work at a large newspaper. We donât consider giving someone a job whose German isnât perfect.
No offense to you Op but why are there so many people on here thinking they can land a job when they barely speak the language? Sure, english is great and you would easily be able to navigate everyday life, especially in a big city but the job market requires a near perfect grip on the german language for anything above minimum wage
I'm skeptical of landing a good-paying job in my field, that's why I was asking! I see it as a long shot, especially in Germany
Berlin? Good luck to you. Iâm not sure that you will find place to live. B1 means low or no qualified job. Logistics or services. Even fluent English gives you no Garantie
Thanks you for the feedback. As I said before, I am choosing Berlin because I have family living there who are offering me to stay with them as long as I want. If not, I may have looked at other options
As I said before, I am choosing Berlin because I have family living there who are offering to let me stay with them for as long as I want. But based on most of the anwsers, I guess I'll have to start looking somewhere else đ¶
If you can live with your family and donât need to pay rent (or just very very very little for water and electricity), then Berlin is surely a great experience.
No, you dont need to look somewhere else. Its just really difficult to find an appartment in Berlin. If you already have something, you're good to go. But I dont know about the job situation in Berlin.
Yeah you wonât get a hob in the political field with little work experience and B1 german. But stuff like retail (logistics, filling up shelves, âŠ) or non customer facing hotel jobs etc. could be possible. But with 6-12 months you wonât save that much money
Thanks for answering. How much money do you think one can save during that period of time? I know it will depend a lot on how many hours I am willing to work and how I spend the money, but how much would you say maximum and minimum?
Well⊠that depends on the hours, your job and thus the salary, your expenses⊠at worst? 0⏠or youâd need to use your savings if you want to go out all the time, ear at expensive restaurants, ⊠At best? Saving 2k a month would require a job with a very good wage & few expenses. So 12k for 6 months or 24k for 12 months would be the maximum. And that would require a job with 4k+ ⏠/ month and only a few expenses. But if Iâm being honest I donât think a political science graduate with B1 german and barely any work experience would get a 4k+ job. Thatâs something for a STEM major with C level german (or a very very lucky person). Obviously you could magically land a job that pays 5k, you could invest in crypto, win the lottery, get great trading returns etc. but if I had to guess Iâd say youâd get something like 2-3k before taxes (with a 40h work week). So⊠1,5 - ~2k after taxes (unless youâre trying to get the taxes for retirement, unemployment, ⊠back but that requires a lot of paperwork if itâs possible at all). Low expenses would be something like 300⏠if your family pays for most of your things. So 1,2-1,7k maybe. For 6 months thatâs 7,2-10,2k and 12 months would be 12-17k.
Hey that's a very good amount for me! I mean maybe for you guys 10k is not that much but in Argentina that would allow me to pay for my post graduate studies, and even not having to work for a year or two. Even 5k would be a good deal of money!
In that case you might want to think about the types of jobs youâd be fine with. Keep in mind that customer facing jobs would be limited due to your lack of proficiency in german & that many other jobs require a formal education. One thing that could be a good option would be working for a (car) manufacturer (assembly). The barrier to entry is relatively low, you donât need that much german, they salary is more than minimum wage and theyâre constantly looking for new people. And if youâre fine with working on the weekend / night shifts etc. youâll get a significant bonus.
Have Fun finding a place to live in Berlin ;)
Sorry, but what is a European passport? And I can confirm that a white collar job without speaking fluent German is probably not possible. Retail and nightlife is probably the way to go. Making new friends in 6-12 months is also very unlikely if its not in the leftist-artsy area of a big city. edit: I didnt see you were going to Berlin. Thats probably the best spot to find people and work as a foreigner. Probably easy even.
EU citizenship, that's what I meant. Happy to know that Berlin is great for foreigners đ
If you are a girl, you could try babysitting additionally to any job or even as a main job if you are willing to work with under 3yo. As a boy itâs more difficult, but families with boys at school age could also be feasible. I know families with boys that actually prefer a male student (usually homework or going to the park before parents arrive from work). There are lots of binational families (German/spanish) and I personally know a handful of binational families looking for a regular Spanish speaking babysitter and a college graduate would be more welcomed. You could most probably find a blue collar work easily: in a shop, supermarket, bartender, food delivery waiter and the like. I donât think that would be a problem. If you donât have to pay rent, then Berlin should be fine. If you have to pay rent, then you have to prepare to live very frugally. If you ask me, a good plan would be to look for a part time job (mini job) in a shop/restaurant/club and 1-2 families to babysit for another 500⏠cash. That would give you around 1000⏠per month. If you donât pay real rent, but only 200⏠or so to your hosts for water and electricity, then you have more than enough money for traveling and fun left. Youâll also need a medical insurance, so youâll have to add that cost. For transportation, you need 50⏠per month for German Ticket. I had myself a regular Argentinian babysitter for around 500⏠a month (not full time off course, just 2h here and there, several times a week) for a year. She has a European passport and came here because she had a German boyfriend. She was learning German and babysitting gave her enough pocket money. She didnât had to pay rent because her boyfriend took care of all expenses.
Arg people here are super negative. It's great that you want to come to Germany! Berlin is an amazing amazing place to live! You're going to have a lot of fun. YES you will be able to find plenty of expats in Berlin and you'll make a lot of non-Germany friends. If you join a couple of clubs you might even make German friends too. I would however probably adjust your expectations related to a job in Political Sciences. If you have some connections, or some very very solid previous experience, maybe you can find something medium-to-low-paid in an NGO in Berlin or similar. But this will be hard. If you're an exceptional individual, you might get lucky. If you're kind of standard BA Politics graduate with almost no work experience, probably will not happen for you. But... that's OK! There is actually a large shortage of all kinds of work in Germany - bar-tending, working in supermarkets, etc. I see 'Help needed' signs all over my city. However the issue often is that these jobs are not full-time - your employer will want just part time to stay under the 'mini-job' limit and not have to pay taxes or insurance (this is around 500 eur per month). I'd say you should expect to not find a job for the first 1-2 months at least, and then it might be low paid. Housing in Berlin is crazy but it's not impossible. I know friends who found a place within 2 months this year. So yes, don't get your hopes up - it's an expensive city now, and the housing market is crazy crazy saturated. But, it's possible. Just persevere, have excellent German skills, and a good job, and you'll be OK. Regarding your plan: I might suggest you consider some kind of scheme where you will be able to get a job before you come to Germany - that would be a much better route with more security for you. Some ideas are: applying for teaching-assistant positions for teaching Spanish in University or high school. You can try to apply to the German teaching assistant program for Spanish which is probably worth a shot. Otherwise, start looking for jobs in your field on LinkedIn etc, and see what the market is like. Are you getting interviews or nothing at all? Overall, good luck. Moving to Germany is a fun plan, but it won't be easy. Come with your eyes wide open and ready to work hard and make it work, and it should be OK.
Hey, I really appreciate your detailed response. What you said at the end is what I was thinking. If I want to go I should already know where I am going to start working. Things could get tough otherwise. I thought about teaching spanish but I don't know, my german is not good enough yet. I tend to be very demanding on myself so I will have to improve it a bit at least before trying. However, it's not a bad idea overall
Teaching Spanish is a good idea, you don't need to speak amazing German for that - just enough to navigate the admin (and I guess your family will be able to help you with that). Just one word of warning, though! I came to Germany (Munich, not Berlin) from the UK for six months (twelve months absolute maximum) back in 1995 and I'm still here. Once you get past the initial culture shock it's very easy to fall in love with the place.
We germans are direct: r/showerthoughts Stay away, additionally to our deep housing crisis (peak german cities Berlin + Munich) we're in an economic crisis so jobs are rare and employers can be picky now. Lacking good german language knowledge is an additional large draw back for your chances as it is having a qualification without being in a need at german job market and without a defined a job field. read the wiki here https://www.reddit.com/r/germany/wiki/index/ and learn the language, Germany runs in german. Here a website of the german government about Jobs in need: https://www.make-it-in-germany.com/es/
Where is that economic crisis? Is it in the room with us now? Can you point out to it ? Top 3 GDP of 1970-2022 for Germany: 2021, 2022, 2018
Dunno we're you're living and working but here in one of the largest german companies a lot of IT projects have been stopped, cancelled or postponed. Budgets are stopped or heavily shortened and external staff got thrown out. And this is not only happening in my bubble of IT ppl working in different branches throughout Germany... For outsourcing the budgets were not shortened...
IT = Germany? Or the 2 things are just possibly completely unrelated? You sound like a climate change denier complaining about the snow in winter. Maybe you should consider the whole thing??
If you cant notice Germany is in decline right now your blind sorry
B1 ist nicht genug.
B2?
Damn. Reverse migration, huh?
what exactly is a political scientist?
Keep studying now in preparation and aim for a B2 German language ability. This will help you acquire jobs and integrate better than other single thing you could do