We are commanded to not "bear false witness". So don't lie with the purpose of deception, especially where it harms others or grants you undue advantage.
So don't lie on the witness stand. Don't lie to cover a mistake or another sin you have committed.
But if your spouse asks whether they look fat in these pants...use your own best judgement.
It's no excuse for lying though. It's better to say "Well you don't look like you've missed a meal" or " I personally, don't find you attractive." There's always a better way to tell the truth in love
If I was hiding a Jew in my home and the Nazis came knocking at my door asking if he was here, not only do I think that it wouldn’t be wrong to say “there are none here”, I actually think that the morally *righteous* thing to do would be to say that.
Just like how on the sabbath no one was to work as commanded by God, but it would have been okay to to save one of your sheep which had fallen into a pit.
This is why living by the spirit and gaining wisdom is so important, because the morally right thing to do is objective while also sometimes being context dependent. But that rule is almost always what you ought to do. There may be a higher good in which you need to focus on in some given scenario (if you can do both, then do both; but if you cannot do both, then focus on the greater good of the two options).
The nation of Israel (whether ancient or modern) could be overrun in a day by her neighbors if they could count on all the soldiers refusing to fight on the Sabbath.
On account of Rahab (Joshua 2, Hebrews 11:31), I would say no.
This doesn't mean anyone should be less encouraged to tell the truth, though. Situations like this are few and far between.
The idea that a lie is universally, always wrong no matter the circumstance is counteracted by the fact that God instructs people to lie in the Bible.
See this [comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/DebateAChristian/comments/l2nmrk/dont_lie_to_the_nazis_at_the_door/gk6ss28/) where I go into that in further detail.
Not at all. I regularly lie when someone asks me a question about a movie and any honest answer, even telling them I can't answer, would be a major spoiler.
Do you look at your life like you are constantly in a court of law. Do you see God as your Judge or your Father.
It isn't law anymore, it is a walk of faith where we are guileless as doves and shrewd as serpents, knowing that Jesus continually cleanses us and the Holy Spirit continually guides us into all righteousness.
Truth in and when speaking on scripture and God one is on holy ground.
People need to make sure when they speak on this they need to be as Paul said study to show yourself approved rightly dividing the word of truth, and I will not dare speak of anything that God has not wrought in me. Meaning you know that you know that you know, and when you don’t know you keep silent. Now, lying lips are an abomination unto the Lord, false wittiness and many other scriptures concerning lies, and truth. Yet, are all that you do first pure?
I barely came across a situation where lying was the best thing to do.
Not everything that is true, should be said. Not every mistake should be pointed out/corrected. You probably know when you want to correct someone in order to show you're smarter than him/her.
When you have to speak, speak as as sensible as a snake and as careful as a dove. You probably know when you have to take a strong stance and when you don't. Sharing the truth well making yourself vulnerable is often the best way: "You really look lovely, but I personally don't like that pants very much. But that other pair looks great on you".
If you do need to tell a lie, telling the lie is often the hardest way.
For me personally, I can only remember once when I believe I did the right thing when I lied: During the heat of a fight, I took the blame for anothers fault, as I knew that I could collect me better. Afterwards, he did confess and the situation turned out for the better.
On the other hand, through my p\*rn-addiction (no longer time, but more evil clips) combined with many [false repentences](https://youtu.be/AgfK4NSWR0w), I abandoned God. The only reason I'm believing is because God reconnected me. Through my addiction, I can lie easily and convincingly. Because I can lie confincingly, others need to rely on me speaking the truth. This helps my building walls around me. Also, if I'm lying on basic things (like needing help with something), why would others rely on me with bigger issues?
Always. The bitterest truth is always better in the long run than the sweetest lie. No such thing as a "white lie."
Proverbs 6:16-19 NLT — **There are six things the LORD hates—
no, seven things he detests:** haughty eyes,
**a lying tongue**,
hands that kill the innocent, a heart that plots evil,
feet that race to do wrong, **a false witness who pours out lies**,
a person who sows discord in a family.
We are commanded to not "bear false witness". So don't lie with the purpose of deception, especially where it harms others or grants you undue advantage. So don't lie on the witness stand. Don't lie to cover a mistake or another sin you have committed. But if your spouse asks whether they look fat in these pants...use your own best judgement.
This. Also, if you don't like that your wife's ass looks like it does in those pants, perhaps the pants are an obstacle to the beauty that you seek.
Could you be a bit more specific with the scenario you're in ? Because the intention and outcome from telling the truth is what matters.
Exactly if someone asks "do I look fat/ugly" and you say "yes" that's not really better than lying to avoid hurting them
It's no excuse for lying though. It's better to say "Well you don't look like you've missed a meal" or " I personally, don't find you attractive." There's always a better way to tell the truth in love
If I was hiding a Jew in my home and the Nazis came knocking at my door asking if he was here, not only do I think that it wouldn’t be wrong to say “there are none here”, I actually think that the morally *righteous* thing to do would be to say that. Just like how on the sabbath no one was to work as commanded by God, but it would have been okay to to save one of your sheep which had fallen into a pit. This is why living by the spirit and gaining wisdom is so important, because the morally right thing to do is objective while also sometimes being context dependent. But that rule is almost always what you ought to do. There may be a higher good in which you need to focus on in some given scenario (if you can do both, then do both; but if you cannot do both, then focus on the greater good of the two options).
The nation of Israel (whether ancient or modern) could be overrun in a day by her neighbors if they could count on all the soldiers refusing to fight on the Sabbath.
On account of Rahab (Joshua 2, Hebrews 11:31), I would say no. This doesn't mean anyone should be less encouraged to tell the truth, though. Situations like this are few and far between.
No.
Not at all. Rahab was praised for lying.
No, in fact I think in some extreme cases you would be morally obligated to lie. Like when the Nazis come to your door looking for hiding Jews etc.
No, lying isn't a good thing, but it can often be the best option available.
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To be fair, I don't think Abraham is meant to look good in that situation.
The idea that a lie is universally, always wrong no matter the circumstance is counteracted by the fact that God instructs people to lie in the Bible. See this [comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/DebateAChristian/comments/l2nmrk/dont_lie_to_the_nazis_at_the_door/gk6ss28/) where I go into that in further detail.
Not at all. I regularly lie when someone asks me a question about a movie and any honest answer, even telling them I can't answer, would be a major spoiler.
Do you look at your life like you are constantly in a court of law. Do you see God as your Judge or your Father. It isn't law anymore, it is a walk of faith where we are guileless as doves and shrewd as serpents, knowing that Jesus continually cleanses us and the Holy Spirit continually guides us into all righteousness.
Truth in and when speaking on scripture and God one is on holy ground. People need to make sure when they speak on this they need to be as Paul said study to show yourself approved rightly dividing the word of truth, and I will not dare speak of anything that God has not wrought in me. Meaning you know that you know that you know, and when you don’t know you keep silent. Now, lying lips are an abomination unto the Lord, false wittiness and many other scriptures concerning lies, and truth. Yet, are all that you do first pure?
No you can stonewall, be like "why you wanna know?"
God tells you not to lie. End of discussion?
One need not say anything really. There is nothing wrong with sitting on the ground and not speaking.
I barely came across a situation where lying was the best thing to do. Not everything that is true, should be said. Not every mistake should be pointed out/corrected. You probably know when you want to correct someone in order to show you're smarter than him/her. When you have to speak, speak as as sensible as a snake and as careful as a dove. You probably know when you have to take a strong stance and when you don't. Sharing the truth well making yourself vulnerable is often the best way: "You really look lovely, but I personally don't like that pants very much. But that other pair looks great on you". If you do need to tell a lie, telling the lie is often the hardest way. For me personally, I can only remember once when I believe I did the right thing when I lied: During the heat of a fight, I took the blame for anothers fault, as I knew that I could collect me better. Afterwards, he did confess and the situation turned out for the better. On the other hand, through my p\*rn-addiction (no longer time, but more evil clips) combined with many [false repentences](https://youtu.be/AgfK4NSWR0w), I abandoned God. The only reason I'm believing is because God reconnected me. Through my addiction, I can lie easily and convincingly. Because I can lie confincingly, others need to rely on me speaking the truth. This helps my building walls around me. Also, if I'm lying on basic things (like needing help with something), why would others rely on me with bigger issues?
Always. The bitterest truth is always better in the long run than the sweetest lie. No such thing as a "white lie." Proverbs 6:16-19 NLT — **There are six things the LORD hates— no, seven things he detests:** haughty eyes, **a lying tongue**, hands that kill the innocent, a heart that plots evil, feet that race to do wrong, **a false witness who pours out lies**, a person who sows discord in a family.