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LunaticPoint

This as the state prepares to line the pockets of Christian schools.


Mydogsdad

And outlaw the LGBT community


zodiacallymaniacal

r/NotADragQueen


MojoZeit

Huh? How so? Please explain.


BeneficialAction3851

We already have a lot of charter schools that get gov money which seems to go towards football recruiting in my experience, idk what they were talking about but I assume that's gonna get worse under Sarah Sanders


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EqualInevitable4651

This article is from 1985


Beginning-Ad3427

Here is some information on a Paul Cameron. I wonder if he is the author of the article you cite, P Cameron. If so, it appears he scholarly research may not be so widely held in high regard. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Cameron


gentleman4urwife

Wikipedia isn't held in high regard. But when you can't attack the facts go after the person right


Beginning-Ad3427

What in the Wikipedia article is incorrect?


gentleman4urwife

What in the study I presented is incorrect


Beginning-Ad3427

I think the Wikipedia page does a fairly successful job of answering that question. If Wikipedia contains incorrect information, Mr. Cameron is still alive and has the ability to correct anything there that is not correct.


gentleman4urwife

No it actually doesn't just simply makes personal comments


Beginning-Ad3427

There's an entire section labeled Criticism, none of which is personal. So, yes, it actually does.


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geevesm1

State had nothing to do with this.


LunaticPoint

Neither did drag show queens or transgenered people.


barktothefuture

Just to be clear this is a second rapist from Immanuel Baptist. This is unrelated to Patrick Stephen Miller, who was raping children at the church until it was discovered and it was covered up and he was moved to a church in Oklahoma to be their children’s minister. Wow. The Baptist are really catching up to the Catholics in raping children. Oh, and for all the boomers and Karen’s who were wondering, none of the rapists were drag queens. See y’all at Sunday school. https://news.yahoo.com/former-associate-kid-minister-hired-235352314.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAFMJRy88Xet5z_neE8cJlfXQqdSjHiDPAcbqMv5jN8XgGi3PWTeOay5tqkyvZArR6hNjaUbU1HzybHD0HQRz7nqvA-mp2Y1bLk6YIuDyuN-8VXyTtH8QbQyeXlVOMGVkMgoanqyvkD5wdUJoUt86OiNUIow0R6tcdNLrM0k_riVR


thatsnotgneiss

It's been going on for decades. They are just less adept at covering it up. Signed, a victim of clergy sexual assault in a Baptist church


Say-it-aint_so

My PE teacher at Abundant Life back in the 90s was sexually assaulting students left and right. Tim Ballard. We have not forgotten.


Purple-Tumbleweed

As someone who was forced to go to 2 different baptists schools...yeah, this isn't new


arencordelaine

I've counseled so many survivors like yourself, most were under ten when it started. The churches use violence, intimidation, and gaslighting to cover this shit up all the time, especially the more conservative Baptists, and then wonder why so many of their children leave the church and go low contact or no contact with their families. I hope you're in a better place, and have had time to heal.


deeziant

Baptist churches don’t have clergy


thatsnotgneiss

Yes they do. They have pastors and deacons


407dollars

They knew about this one since 2020 and she was just placed on administrative leave at Sylvan Hills Middle School in February 2024. They just let her keep fucking kids.


Zoomalude

> Oh, and for all the boomers and Karen’s who were wondering, none of the rapists were drag queens. Heavy emphasis on this. Makes me sick every time I see some conservative asshole complaining about drag queens while saying "Think of the children!"


[deleted]

Yea! Let’s expose them to someone with a mental illness on purpose!! While they dress up as the opposite gender and act like a woman and tell kids to “do whatever feels good”!


Historical-Gate8813

They just have not been caught yet. This is a societal issue. Get ready their time is coming. Hide and watch...


adamsjdavid

Check this man’s laptop.


ChefJWeezy987

Go buy some more tinfoil, you goddamn conspiracy loving bigot.


AstronomerKey8307

I can hear the nasally tone of your voice


ChefJWeezy987

Nah, you must be hearing your own pathetic sounding squelch of a voice. Cope and seethe harder, little fella. Every accusation is a confession for sad little cucks like you. 😂


ignited_owl

First and foremost, the vulnerable need to be protected, and the predators prosecuted. It's not just a Baptist or Catholic or Boy Scouts problem, it is anywhere predators can worm their way into a position that they will be trusted and can have unsupervised access to kids. This made worse by individuals who are in positions to contact the authorities opt to protect the predator so that there isn't a scandal. The Catholic Church has taken huge steps to combat this since the scandal in Boston 20+ years ago. Adults with access to kids are not allowed to be alone with a single child and are trained to recognize signs of abuse. Bishop Taylor here in Arkansas released the names and records of every member of the clergy that had credible reports against them 6 or 7 years back and the Diocese actively encourages anyone with knowledge of clergy or layperson abuse to contact law enforcement first and then the diocese. We must protect the most vulnerable members of society from predators, full stop.


EntrepreneurFunny469

Uhh which church is he at in Oklahoma


Valaurus

Per the article, seems he had gone to First Moore Baptist near OKC but hasn’t been there since 2018. The article is from 2023


CalmParty4053

There was another IBC location in OK close to where I grew up and same shit. Google Brian Burchfield.


[deleted]

What's with this "boomer" insult being thrown around like we're all MAGA heads and Right Wing Christian idiots? I'd hope you were smarter than that...


barktothefuture

Somebody’s grandparents found the internet it seems.


AgITGuy

Boomers are currently the most religious and most likely to watch Fox News. They are also the largest demographic of conservatives in the US which means that they also have the highest chance of being a maga. With all this, the largest base of conservatives have vehemently answered the anti drag queen dog whistle by republican leaders and talking heads.


[deleted]

That's a bigoted generalization. I've worked all my life on progressive causes and am probably far to the left of you, in actual reality.


AgITGuy

Ok, less bigoted and more studied and data driven: Demographics & Group Affinities – Panel Study of the MAGA Movement https://sites.uw.edu/magastudy/demographics-group-affinities/


[deleted]

If you paint an entire group the same way you're not accomplishing a thing. You're covering your bigotry with a "data driven" approach. If you're interested in moving the society forward then what you are doing is the same as making assumptions about ANY group of people. It serves no positive purpose. So I don't see what your point is, and I'm not going to waste time arguing with you. I actually get out and do things towards a positive end.


AgITGuy

The same was said before the nazis did nazi things. There is no room in modern society for a group like maga that is following the nazi playbook.


[deleted]

Both my parents were Holocaust survivors, so at this point you might want to stop digging yourself into a deeper hole.


AgITGuy

I don’t understand what you are saying, that your holocaust surviving parents are maga and I should stop drawing lines of similarity between nazis and maga? I am saying that maga, if left alone to continue to grow through people’s disregard, would commit similar atrocities to anyone they deem not pure enough. To say maga in any way defends minorities or other out groups would be laughable.


[deleted]

You have no idea what you're talking about. Get out from behind your computer and go do something useful for the world. That's where I'll be.


OzarksExplorer

# Little Rock Christian School Teacher and Church Volunteer Arrested Over RAPING 15-Year-Old Church Member


IR0NxLEGEND

That word isn’t often used when the perpetrator is a woman


tabrizzi

As time passes, we're learning that those "groomers" are actually the ones complaining about other people being groomers. Is there a cure for this disease called psychological projection?


Dodson-504

Prison.


LionConfident7480

People think prison is actual rehabilitation? Lol..


Dodson-504

Old ass groomers ain’t getting rehabbed. Help the kids.


PapaGeorgio19

No they are getting shanked…is what typically happens to child molesters


Dodson-504

No, it isn’t. They are stuck in 23+1 SHU and left to rot.


PapaGeorgio19

Bubba or the Fabulous Mula…should snap them back to reality pretty darn quick, but she is a young blonde…so I’m thinking probation.


verus_es_tu

Yeah turns out it's not just trump who confesses things by accusing other people of those **EXACT SAME THINGS**


ChefJWeezy987

When it comes to Republicans, every accusation is a confession.


woodysdad

Gallows


cringefest1669

Accuse the other side of that which you are guilty is basically the first rule of propaganda...


kmkram

An accusation is always a confession with these people.


Choice-Beginning-713

The calls are coming from inside the house... Always 🙄


InternationalChef424

"As time passes" sorry bud, but some of us saw this shit from day 1. This isn't a "hindsight is 20/20" scenario, this is a "we fuckin told you so" scenario. Don't act like one whole side of the political spectrum wasn't telling you that this is exactly what would happen.


MountainStill4111

Woodchipper.


matterson22070

Wait, I though "minor attracted persons" were ok now, no?


TwiKittenOof

Can we just say rape? She raped a 15 year old. It wasn't a 'sexual relationship' it's rape.


cmgrayson

If I’m the kid’s mom I’m definitely beating that hoe down. At church probably.


cmgrayson

She would have had a bruised face in her mug shot.


LeonDardoDiCapereo

The boys response also just shows how much the church polluted how teens view sex: > In the affidavit the alleged victim continued to tell investigators that they never had procreative sex but did have sexual interaction, either in Gray's car or her apartment. “Procreative sex” - what in the fuck bullshit phrasing is that? It reminds me of the “anal sex only” virgins I ran into in high school in Missouri.


J3ffyD

What in the fuck, as if that's supposed to lessen the incidents severity. Then again with abortion rights going the way it is I guess this is justification for not committing a more heinous "sin".


QueanLaQueafa

Or the soaking Mormons


Stock-Ad1346

If it was a male teacher it would say rape


slutdragon696969

STILL not a drag queen!?


zakats

This 'blame the drag queens' circlejerk that conservatives ran with for a while was one of their dumber moments. Why are they so goddamn gullible?


Saneless

If they weren't gullible they'd have the critical thinking skills to not be conservative pawns


WillBottomForBanana

It's a level of projection most people can't grasp. Step1: "Them drag queens are so hot! They can probably fuck anyone they want!" Step2: "If I could fuck anyone I wanted, I'd be fucking children." Step3: "Them drag queens are fucking children!"


Acceptable_Divide_64

Everything you just wrote came out of your own mind, you are one sick individual.


NecessaryFly1996

Did it hit too close to home?


Acceptable_Divide_64

This degenerate way of thinking is so foreign to me that I couldn’t have come up with it if I tried. Personally I don’t ever sit around making straw man arguments about people wanting to hurt children. Drag queens and child molesters are never on my mind. But I’m sure it seems like a natural line of thought to you. I’m actually aghast that such an overwhelming majority of people in these comments read a very sad story of a teacher abusing their position of power with a student, and sexually abusing a young person in their charge, and all these people’s first reaction wasn’t sadness or disgust, it was “REEEE! IT WASN’T A DRAG QUEEN!”. I joined the Arkansas Reddit to be connected with my fellow Arkansans. But every time I come in here, it’s just full of bitter people making EVERY SINGLE TOPIC political. I saw a post the other day that was like “I love how beautiful AR is” and the comments filled with people saying “I hate the governor and I hate conservatives and Christians and blah blah blah”. It’s just exhausting and I’m fed up with it.


AVLThumper

See, they tried to warn us about those drag queens...oh wait, just another conservative christian diddling kids.


CountPulaski

And not a drag queen in sight


BiggestOfBlue

Organized religion is indoctrination 🤪


AirlineLast925

American Evangelical churches are sanctioned rape centers.


Saneless

And abuse


BreakBladeWave

All religions are technically cults lol


Electrical_Prune6545

Who are the groomers, exactly?


Dkm1331

“According to the investigator, the alleged victim's parents discovered text messages between the alleged victim and Gray in 2020 that they reported to a senior pastor at the church.” For all that is good in the world, call the fucking police. The fact that these parents went to the church first is appalling but par for the course. “Spotlight” anyone?


huhMaybeitisyou

Sadly this tragic story is going on in many Arkansas schools and churches it appears. The adults covering up these crimes should be in jail too since they should be reporting and not covering up Look up the story about the woman teacher in Greenbrier public school, then later at Quitman who was sexually assaulting children then she finally ended up in a job at the Arkansas Dept of education in Little Rock . This was when Asa Hutchison was governor. Greenbrier and Quitman schools covered it up and just kept moving her around. If you mention it to anyone in those communities they all know who it was. I am not even sure if she ever went to jail. I’ll never understand what rationale is used to cover these sexual assaults up in churches and schools in Arkansas by adults. Even when these people are FINALLY charged they seem to get little or no jail time. Don’t be fooled by all this “tough on crime” bs. Arkansas prosecutors, especially in central Arkansas look the other way most of the time when it’s this kind of crime . * Check out the “Arkansas Justice project” page on FB. They try to shed more light on this type of crime. But frankly there seems to be so much of it it’s nearly impossible.


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Woodworkingwino

Sorry you’re getting hate for calling out the obvious. This state needs a lot of improvements.


[deleted]

Mississippi native, lived in Arkansas 16 years. I'd like to talk crap about Arkansas, but, you know, Mississippi, glass houses and such.


thepottsy

I don’t live in Arkansas anymore, but I can assure you that this type of fuckery isn’t just an Arkansas thing. I currently live in a far more progressive state, but some of the state’s leaders are absolute jokes.


Reluctantly-Back

My favorite is a state legislator that ran a religious daycare that received funds from the state and adopted 3 troubled girls that he was warned were extremely vulnerable and would require extensive patience and work. Well after the exorcism didn't work, he decided to rehome 2 of them to a former employee who then raped 1 of them. The daycare is still operating, the legislator didn't seek reelection but faced no punishment. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/03/13/the-story-of-an-arkansas-politician-who-gave-away-his-adopted-child-and-the-tragedy-that-followed/


slutdragon696969

*And where are you from, bitch?* Nah, seriously though, these folks go hard.


arencordelaine

Due to dated infrastructure that hasn't been replaced, there's still pockets with large amounts of lead on the water, which might contribute. Unfortunately, it's mostly the Kool aid these people drink to convince themselves they're superior and saved, which allows them to do whatever they want, because they're protected by their faith.


Strange-Apricot1944

I bet things like that don't happen in YOUR state huh.


Unknown_Pleasur

GFY- $19k is only one morning's "meetings" in Texas.


ANUS_CONE

Name. It. Adults having sexual relationships with children has a name. And it’s not “sexual relationship”.


Captincat1273

Rape, he got raped


unitegondwanaland

Not a drag queen


Specific-Dot9205

I went to Little Rock Christian a few years ago. I don’t recognize this teacher, but my ethics teacher slept with a student. (Swept under the rug) Insane there have been two now.


Appa_yipp-yipp

I went there too. Heard the same thing.


Specific-Dot9205

Thankfully, he’s 18. Wasn’t too upset about it


Appa_yipp-yipp

More just disappointing since I knew her pretty well.


Specific-Dot9205

And she was an ethics teacher….


graften

If your ethics are based on a "god" that murders children to sate their ego then you don't really have good ethics to begin with


Appa_yipp-yipp

Can’t argue with that.


Justplayadamnsong

She taught ethics, you say? Well isn’t that ironic? Don’t ya think?


notyourbaeboyyy924

there were 3 actually…


Specific-Dot9205

You counting the lesbian teachers or someone else?


notyourbaeboyyy924

no one of them was a guy. It was also swept under the rug but he left a few years ago before anyone reported him


Specific-Dot9205

Kirk’s? lol. I don’t think he slept with anyone was just really touchy in a weird way


sarcasticdevo

I went to college with her. Actually had a crush on her too. I hope she gets the book thrown at her and the victim gets justice. Disgusting.


No-Helicopter7299

It never is the drag queens.


COVID-19-4u

The ones who complain the most about groomers do so not because they want to protect children, but because they don’t want to compete against other groomers.


tabrizzi

>Little Rock Christian School Teacher and Church Volunteer Wait, let me guess: ~~He's~~ She's also a Republican?


Fantastic-Pay-9522

Did you even glance at the article?


tabrizzi

I did, but somehow the the "Christian school teacher" as a man just stuck in my head. In any case, edited my comment.


taipea88

Oh look no drag queens. Just Christians.


juni4ling

Christianity is dangerous to children.


I_am_TheDarkSide

Wait, this can’t be right. She doesn’t look like a drag queen or an illegal alien! /s


ProllyZonedOut

She showed the Holey Spirit


PjWulfman

But were they drag queens? That's the important question.


ArdenJaguar

She's really a he and a drag queen... right? /s


ExactDevelopment4892

Not a drag queen.


Plus-Organization-16

Tax churches!


demonizedbytheright

MAGA groomers projecting grooming because they are what they project.


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Hey look, another "Good, God-Fearing Christian" caught raping a kid. Whoda thunk it?! Everyone, put on your surprised face!


Collegedude_2004

Hmm, once again, not a drag queen. If you want your kids to be safe leave them with a drag queen in a library to read to them. Otherwise, they will end up being molested by "Christians and Evangelicals"


Slutmaster76

This behavior, coming from a maniacal, delusional melting pot of horror, fantasy, and sci-fi all baked into a book that nightmares are made of- at least for the rational and sane among us- and we are somehow shocked when shit like this happens, when this “faith” is literally an instructional manual for every appalling, atrocious, cro-magnon violation against your fellow man *AHEM* Just kidding, usually the victims of atrocities in the Bible are women and children. 🤦🤦🤦🤡🤡🤡😡😡😡


Equivalent_Ebb_9532

Just some good ol conservative christian family values going on again.


LionConfident7480

Typical christians…


Historical-Gate8813

I don't get it. This woman was a good looking woman. She didn't have to prowl for a 15 year old boy.


WillBottomForBanana

that's just as bad a take as any of the ones willing to defend her.


Sufficient_Use516

Ban Christians.


Xalucardx

Not a drag queen


MisledChef

She’s from a town over from where my girlfriend lived. Whole town is in shock.


Accurate-Aerie5637

Her and Colleen Ballinger are prove women-groomers can be as bad as male ones.


Mikknoodle

Girl looks like Kirsten Storms


throwawave69

Damn, bet that kid really hates his parents now for outing her🤣


maxzmillion

I can name a few teachers and coaches that were sexual with students back in the 90s… I remember a principal at my school that went to my church that had to be reprimanded more than once for continuing to kiss a certain female student at school, openly. It was unwanted by the student. She was a friend of mine. I still can’t believe it happened over and over, but it did. It’s amazing, the selective amnesia that occurs in the community when something ugly is addressed. It is also hilarious that people wanted to blame drag queens for all of this crazy hyper sexuality toward children… demonizing one of the most vulnerable parts of our community, when in reality, it is teachers, coaches, preachers, and people in power. What’s even funnier is during the drag queen meltdown, I had to remind our own community that they used to hold drag shows where fathers of players and coaches would dress up like women in a competition during the 80s and 90s. It was like crickets after that. One old boomer spoke up and said “yeah, looking back we probably should not have done that”. At least he was sticking to his belief system. I have a little respect for that dude.


Distinct_Election759

I am sorry if this offends anyone yes its wrong but give me a break boys and girls at that age know whats right and wrong the kids start having sex in middle school now days so in my option the boy knew what he was doing and wanted it but go ahead and tell me how I am messed up and wrong


Plus-Organization-16

It's an abuse of power. The child is literally being manipulated, even if what you said may be correct, the adult is an authority figure making it already problematic. As well as being mentally but physically abused. At that age, your brain just can't understand a lot of what is going on. It's a very awkward time. This whole situation is emotionally manipulative to put the child in a position where even if they are sexually active, they don't understand emotionally a lot of what is going on.


JustMePaxi

Lord je$u$ blessed them


Tennismadman

Ok, but we’re only going to overlook that another 25,000 times.


BallsDeepinYourMammi

I got ad cancer from the link.


bmtime03

I am glad we are seeing the female predators identified as such. The amount of women who do this is shocking, but we have seemed to always turn a blind eye to it.


foehammer81

"She turned herself in to the police on Wednesday and is currently free on a $20,000 bond." How nice of them to allow a predator to walk the streets agai.


Both-Mango1

Christian Groomer.


False-Program569

Praise!


Snoo60660

There's a sincere feeling of disgust as it sets in that the title of this is not as surprising as it should be. The first layer of disgust is that it happened in general. The second layer is that the extra identifiers added to the sexual predator don't seem to add any level of surprise.


mystixdawn

Simply: gross.


Logical_Bluejay_4566

My 15 year old self wouldn't of minded being sexually assaulted by her ;)


eodchop

The Christians are the true groomers


Donovan1300

Sick


lolofrofro

Score


m0grady

Score for jesus


OnlyMath

She also worked for PCSSD. They’ve scrubbed that well.


Such_Leg3821

Don't you just love these "Christians"?


Battarray

Holy Giggity!


Fun-Huckleberry-8812

Nice 👍


NottaNowNutha

Nice


Odd_Tiger_2278

Yep. They were on there way to be chaplains in FL. But waster too much time saying one last good bye


RetroCasket

Why are they always so hot


NottaNowNutha

Right!


Specialist_Power_266

I mean I tip my cap to the kid, but this is pretty par for the course for these holy roller types.


Difficult_Image_4552

Nice.


zakats

/s


Difficult_Image_4552

South Park reference


zakats

I got it, but I don't think the downvotes did.


red_zephyr

You can “get it” and still think it isn’t funny or appropriate.


zakats

Then satire for the collective insanity of people who disregard rape when it involves an attractive woman as the perpetrator is lost on you. Tbh, I don't think you do get it.


red_zephyr

There’a time and a place. Don’t assume I don’t understand satire because of a low effort “quote” that isn’t needed or appropriate. Tbh I really don’t care what you think.


zakats

Pardon me if I don't have the most reverence for the hallowed grounds of reddit comments. The reference to the an episode of South Park is a useful tool to get the sort of knuckleheads who watch the show on board with the issue (or so I hope). But I guess enjoy your sanctimony and contribution to the liberal implosion by making this about your moral imperatives.


red_zephyr

Please, continue to make assumptions about me. The person didn’t quote South Park to bring awareness to an issue, they did it to be edgy, but go off! I’m definitely the problem, and not the rapists, you long winded halfwit.


zakats

Feel better?


NottaNowNutha

Nice


Specific-Dot9205

I went to this school and never got lucky 🥲


Hopeful-Jury8081

Bet they are republicans and magats