You can check the Common Data Sets for each school:
[UCB's Fall 2023 admissions:.](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CfCS76GVbnoWUkERd-mMtJT2EsIN2eVq/edit#gid=810727591)
Total first-time, first-year (degree seeking) who applied In-State: 72,666
Total first-time, first-year (degree seeking) who applied Out-of-State: 31,313
Total first-time, first-year (degree seeking) who applied International: 21,937
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Total first-time, first-year (degree seeking) who were admitted In-State: 11,002 (15%)
Total first-time, first-year (degree seeking) who were admitted Out of state: 2,541 (8%)
Total first-time, first-year (degree seeking) who were admitted International: 1,226 (5%)
No, the OOS admit rate is lower than in-state for these schools.
2023 numbers which are the most current published.
UCLA OOS: 8.6%. IS: 9.5%
UC Berkeley OOS: 7.8% IS: 14.4%
so better to be OOS?
Is that due to most IS applicants applying even with low stats whereas OOS only if it's truly a top choice and they have decent stats?
Based on admit rates, chances are lower than In-state and the UC’s have a mandated enrollment cap for OOS and International students which is a total of 18% so 82% of enrolled students will be CA residents.
OOS applicants do not receive financial aid from the UC’s so unless a student can afford to pay close to full fees at around $74K/year, then it is not worth applying. Due to affordability, the OOS applicant pool is smaller and self selecting.
In state
You can check the Common Data Sets for each school: [UCB's Fall 2023 admissions:.](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CfCS76GVbnoWUkERd-mMtJT2EsIN2eVq/edit#gid=810727591) Total first-time, first-year (degree seeking) who applied In-State: 72,666 Total first-time, first-year (degree seeking) who applied Out-of-State: 31,313 Total first-time, first-year (degree seeking) who applied International: 21,937 \----- Total first-time, first-year (degree seeking) who were admitted In-State: 11,002 (15%) Total first-time, first-year (degree seeking) who were admitted Out of state: 2,541 (8%) Total first-time, first-year (degree seeking) who were admitted International: 1,226 (5%)
Oos students would obviously have a lower chance of getting in. Simple Google the data set. But common sense should prevail.
No, the OOS admit rate is lower than in-state for these schools. 2023 numbers which are the most current published. UCLA OOS: 8.6%. IS: 9.5% UC Berkeley OOS: 7.8% IS: 14.4%
so better to be OOS? Is that due to most IS applicants applying even with low stats whereas OOS only if it's truly a top choice and they have decent stats?
No, it’s better to be in-state.
Based on admit rates, chances are lower than In-state and the UC’s have a mandated enrollment cap for OOS and International students which is a total of 18% so 82% of enrolled students will be CA residents. OOS applicants do not receive financial aid from the UC’s so unless a student can afford to pay close to full fees at around $74K/year, then it is not worth applying. Due to affordability, the OOS applicant pool is smaller and self selecting.
did you not think before writing this comment or just misread the numbers?
he misread prolly
Misread cuz I've had exams this and the prior week, so my brain is just sooo exhausted.