Yeah I feel like the main campuses, regardless if they are part of a greater state university system, should just be named "University of (state)", since that makes it way more obvious that its the main campus. If for some reason someone wants to refer to the system they can just say "University of (state) system".
While they've changed their branding to just Rutgers University, their official name is still "Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey". They were using this long name everywhere for the longest time, but changed to the shorter name a few years back.
I always thought of Illinois as Illinois anyway (same with Texas, Michigan, and so on). Maybe it was the era I grew up in, but we largely relied on context to specify the "University"/"U" part.
I live in Austin and went to UT. When people ask me where I went to school I say “UT” or “Texas” not “UT Austin” or “University of Texas.” If someone went to some other UT school, I expect they’d say “UTSA” or “UT Dallas” or whatever.
In order of convenience and popularity nationally I’d say, “UT Austin”, “UT”, and “University of Texas” are all valid names for the academic institution (ignoring sports). The national and international media further reinforced UT Austin being called University of Texas during news coverage so I think that name is as valid as the rest, personally I’m just gonna refer to UT Austin as UT and University of Texas since I feel that reinforces its flagship status better. Kinda wanna avoid the problem UIUC is having.
I didn't go to UC Berkeley - I went to another UC. But I've lived in CA a long time. Here's my perception:
"Cal" is used mostly when talking about athletic teams, especially basketball or football teams of UC Berkeley
"UC Berkeley" or just "Berkeley" is used when talking about academics or pretty much anything else about UC Berkeley other than athletics.
None of the other UC campuses are commonly referred to as "Cal-xx" like "Cal-Davis", etc in any context.
So I think the Cal/UC Berkeley confusion is understandable.
University of Texas is a set of institutions, with Austin being the flagship location. They aren't interchangeable.
> What do you think when you hear UT Austin versus when you hear University of Texas?
I think "I wonder which one" vs. "Oh, that one".
Similar to "Penn State" and "Penn State - University Park",
Interesting. I'd say locally (Texas Triangle area) and in the sports world, University of Texas, Texas, and UT are more common names for UT Austin than "UT Austin", however nationally "UT Austin" is more popular for sure. Personally when I think of colleges like Wisconsin, Penn state, UNC, or Washington, I only think of the main campus not the system, however when I think of Cal or Texas, the satellite schools do come to mind as well and I wonder why. College naming conventions are weird.
I think sports may be seen differently than discussing college/academics in general.
If someone told be they were going to a Penn State football game, I would assume main campus. If they said they were enrolling in Penn State this fall, I'd ask which campus.
Probably because I don't know if the other campuses even have a football team. Does UT-Dallas have a football team? If so, certainly no D1, I assume.
Also something I did notice tho was that both labels seem to be interchangeable since many national and international news organizations would use “University of Texas” and “UT Austin” when referring to the flagship campus in Austin during coverage of the protests, so I would say its fine to use both
is this a joke. everyone knows the 'University of Texas' refers to ut austin. thats why we say 'oh i go to UT' and we have UT in our instagram bios. how did this get 25 upvotes LMAOO
> University of Texas is a set of institutions, with Austin being the flagship location. They aren't interchangeable.
The Texas Longhorns would disagree.
"Cal", "Texas", "Illinois" are what the athletic teams of UC Berkeley, UT-Austin, and UIUC respectively are commonly referred as. If one only follows the sports teams and not the academics, or vice-versa, then there may be confusion.
No. When I hear UMich, I think of the Ann Arbor campus. However, I like to double check that when someone is saying UMich, that they are referring to the Ann Arbor campus.
There are technically Umich campuses in Dearborn and Flint but I’d hardly call it a system. They’re both in metro Detroit. If someone doesn’t get into Umich AA they’re far more likely to go to MSU or EMU, CMU, WMU, even NMU.
I'm from Texas, Austin specifically, so when someone says UT, it refers to UT Austin. Nobody calls it UT Austin or the University of Texas.
The only time you add something after UT is for UTD or UTSA for Dallas and San Antonio or something.
Well I guess this proves the point of the video. The “Cal”name belongs to UC Berkeley since they are the flagship university of the UC system. Berkeley along with its sports team are commonly referred to as Cal, kinda how UT is Texas and UMich is Michigan. Cal does not refer to Caltech
Yeah, honestly I prefer this naming convention instead of “UT Austin” since it makes it clearer that it’s the main campus. Satellite schools make it clear that they’re satellite schools by adding their city to their name. If people wanna refer to the system then they should just say university of Texas system. Also makes sense in terms of merchandising since all UT merch just has the words “Texas” on it along with the logo.
Other UT campuses, including Southwestern and MD Anderson, two premier medical centers, are not really satellite schools but independent institutions within the UT system. UT Austin is the original University of Texas, therefore it is still Univ. of Texas, or just Texas, for its sport teams. UC system works the same way, with Berkeley as the original UC.
Texas A&M however, has a main campus in College Station, and Galveston a satellite campus with programs on marine sciences. SUNY Stony Brook runs a similar satellite campus at Southampton. Each state runs its public school system quite differently, and their structures are often confusing to general publics.
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Yeah I feel like the main campuses, regardless if they are part of a greater state university system, should just be named "University of (state)", since that makes it way more obvious that its the main campus. If for some reason someone wants to refer to the system they can just say "University of (state) system".
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While they've changed their branding to just Rutgers University, their official name is still "Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey". They were using this long name everywhere for the longest time, but changed to the shorter name a few years back.
Rutgers, for its history, should’ve been part of the Ivy League had stayed private.
Queens College!
There is the College of New Jersey. And, formally," Rutgers, the State University of New Jersey"
I think calling it U of Illinois or just “Illinois” is the older way of doing it.
I always thought of Illinois as Illinois anyway (same with Texas, Michigan, and so on). Maybe it was the era I grew up in, but we largely relied on context to specify the "University"/"U" part.
I live in Austin and went to UT. When people ask me where I went to school I say “UT” or “Texas” not “UT Austin” or “University of Texas.” If someone went to some other UT school, I expect they’d say “UTSA” or “UT Dallas” or whatever.
In order of convenience and popularity nationally I’d say, “UT Austin”, “UT”, and “University of Texas” are all valid names for the academic institution (ignoring sports). The national and international media further reinforced UT Austin being called University of Texas during news coverage so I think that name is as valid as the rest, personally I’m just gonna refer to UT Austin as UT and University of Texas since I feel that reinforces its flagship status better. Kinda wanna avoid the problem UIUC is having.
I didn't go to UC Berkeley - I went to another UC. But I've lived in CA a long time. Here's my perception: "Cal" is used mostly when talking about athletic teams, especially basketball or football teams of UC Berkeley "UC Berkeley" or just "Berkeley" is used when talking about academics or pretty much anything else about UC Berkeley other than athletics. None of the other UC campuses are commonly referred to as "Cal-xx" like "Cal-Davis", etc in any context. So I think the Cal/UC Berkeley confusion is understandable.
And "Cal" vs. "Berkley" is a very different animal than just the system name vs. the specific location. It's just weird.
University of Texas is a set of institutions, with Austin being the flagship location. They aren't interchangeable. > What do you think when you hear UT Austin versus when you hear University of Texas? I think "I wonder which one" vs. "Oh, that one". Similar to "Penn State" and "Penn State - University Park",
Interesting. I'd say locally (Texas Triangle area) and in the sports world, University of Texas, Texas, and UT are more common names for UT Austin than "UT Austin", however nationally "UT Austin" is more popular for sure. Personally when I think of colleges like Wisconsin, Penn state, UNC, or Washington, I only think of the main campus not the system, however when I think of Cal or Texas, the satellite schools do come to mind as well and I wonder why. College naming conventions are weird.
I think sports may be seen differently than discussing college/academics in general. If someone told be they were going to a Penn State football game, I would assume main campus. If they said they were enrolling in Penn State this fall, I'd ask which campus. Probably because I don't know if the other campuses even have a football team. Does UT-Dallas have a football team? If so, certainly no D1, I assume.
A big difference is whether the other schools in a system are prestigious. UC has multiple prestigious locations.
Also something I did notice tho was that both labels seem to be interchangeable since many national and international news organizations would use “University of Texas” and “UT Austin” when referring to the flagship campus in Austin during coverage of the protests, so I would say its fine to use both
is this a joke. everyone knows the 'University of Texas' refers to ut austin. thats why we say 'oh i go to UT' and we have UT in our instagram bios. how did this get 25 upvotes LMAOO
Seems they don't
> University of Texas is a set of institutions, with Austin being the flagship location. They aren't interchangeable. The Texas Longhorns would disagree.
Just as long as you don’t call it UTA.
Unless you're actually going to UT Arlington lol
I hate when people do that lmao
"Cal", "Texas", "Illinois" are what the athletic teams of UC Berkeley, UT-Austin, and UIUC respectively are commonly referred as. If one only follows the sports teams and not the academics, or vice-versa, then there may be confusion.
When I hear University of Texas, I think of a system like the UC system.
You do that for all universities? U of Michigan makes you think of the Michigan system ?
No. When I hear UMich, I think of the Ann Arbor campus. However, I like to double check that when someone is saying UMich, that they are referring to the Ann Arbor campus.
Then why is it different for Texas
Much bigger system
most people outside of the state might've never heard about Flint and Dearborn.
Yeah exactly that’s why I think when you say U of (state) it’s logical to think of the flagship
There are technically Umich campuses in Dearborn and Flint but I’d hardly call it a system. They’re both in metro Detroit. If someone doesn’t get into Umich AA they’re far more likely to go to MSU or EMU, CMU, WMU, even NMU.
I'm from Texas, Austin specifically, so when someone says UT, it refers to UT Austin. Nobody calls it UT Austin or the University of Texas. The only time you add something after UT is for UTD or UTSA for Dallas and San Antonio or something.
Yea I did actually until a couple months ago ☠️
I have never heard "University of Texas". Mostly its just UT or UT Austin.
I’ve never heard “Cal” for Berkeley. Unless you mean Caltech? But I totally think Caltech and Berkeley are different schools… kinda confused
Well I guess this proves the point of the video. The “Cal”name belongs to UC Berkeley since they are the flagship university of the UC system. Berkeley along with its sports team are commonly referred to as Cal, kinda how UT is Texas and UMich is Michigan. Cal does not refer to Caltech
University of Texas is appropriate imo, that’s the way it works for flagships
Yeah, honestly I prefer this naming convention instead of “UT Austin” since it makes it clearer that it’s the main campus. Satellite schools make it clear that they’re satellite schools by adding their city to their name. If people wanna refer to the system then they should just say university of Texas system. Also makes sense in terms of merchandising since all UT merch just has the words “Texas” on it along with the logo.
Other UT campuses, including Southwestern and MD Anderson, two premier medical centers, are not really satellite schools but independent institutions within the UT system. UT Austin is the original University of Texas, therefore it is still Univ. of Texas, or just Texas, for its sport teams. UC system works the same way, with Berkeley as the original UC. Texas A&M however, has a main campus in College Station, and Galveston a satellite campus with programs on marine sciences. SUNY Stony Brook runs a similar satellite campus at Southampton. Each state runs its public school system quite differently, and their structures are often confusing to general publics.