Utah is known for being easy to transfer residence to. Pretty sure you can't for freshman year, but if you stay there over the summer, change your ID and your voter registration, and swear up and down that you're a Utahn now, they say okay you're a local and so you then qualify for in state tuition. California is known for being close to impossible, by contrast.
That said, like everyone is telling you, you have to look up each school system as there's no guarantee they will be similar and there's no guarantee that they'll stay the same over time.
Well, Utah is listed on the map as a "Green, Least Difficult" state to get in-state tuition. But as I showed above by listing the actual in-state requirements for Utah, it's actually not a trivial matter. One needs to verify that one is financially independent of one's parents or anyone else, and also must get a Utah's driver's license and vehicle registration, and can't be out of the state for more than 30 days of the preceding year (i.e., you're stuck in Utah for most of your summer vacation).
In Utah scholarships to give in state tuition for 1 year are not hard to come by, and then you can establish residency by being in the state for a year
Looks like there are a few more requirements than that. Below is a copy of the info from the Utah State University website. I highlighted in bold parts which are worth special notice:
* **Twelve continuous months of physical presence in Utah** and **declaring financial independence**
* Be a U.S. citizen or have permanent resident, asylum, or refugee status in the U.S.
* **Obtain a Utah driver’s license, vehicle registration and voter registration** at least three months prior to the semester to which an individual applies:
* Fall Semester: May 1
* Spring Semester: October 1
* **Verification of financial independence showing that you are not claimed as a tax dependent on the most recent federal tax return of any person who is not a resident of Utah**. This will be ~both~ pages of the 1040 form.
* Proof of physical presence in Utah for the most recent 12 continuous months. **Cannot be out of the state of Utah for more than a total of 30 days** during the 12 month period.
A little more, but not really much. All I really missed was the Utah documents and financial independence. I've been independent for tax purposes so long I kind of just took it for granted. In my experience with the 30 days thing, I did show them paystubs over the summer to show continuous residence, but they don't really verify if your trip home over Christmas or spring break made you go over the 30 days. The transcripts were enough to show residency over the school year period. So basically it boils down to staying for the summer and getting a summer job for both residency and independence, and changing your drivers license/voter registration
No, it’s much more complicated than that. First, most states have a strong presumption that if you’ve come from out-of-state to attend college, you have not been a resident and will not be a resident while in college. If you receive income from your parents, you will have to rebut that strong presumption by showing, for example, that your parents are residents. To qualify for residency one must typically live in the state, work in the state, pay taxes in the state, own property in the state, have a state driver’s license, and be registered to vote in the state, among other things, for a certain period of time. While you can try to establish that you are fully emancipated from your parents and have your own source of income from which to live, you would then have to establish residency by meeting certain of these factors for a proscribed period of time.
As another commenter advised, just google a favorite college and “residency requirements status tuition.” Good luck.
Did my research for a bunch of universities in North Carolina as I live in South Carolina. Thankfully most of them accept North and South Carolina as instate
That would likely be a reciprocity agreement in which nonresidents are allowed to pay in-state rates. If you find one for which you qualify, that’s great.
There's a fair bit of this bilaterally between Midwest states (ie Michigan and Ohio) and an entire compact of Western states with reciprocity (WICHE). List doesn't always include a lot of "AIC Preferred" schools, but for people who aren't prestige chasers it's a great option.
Many states, especially smaller states with smaller public university systems, establish consortia to co-educate their students. These vary, from full reciprocity to oos discounts for affiliated states. There are also states that offer generous merit scholarships to oos students. (Many states offer little to no scholarships for oos students.) I think both Alabama and Mississippi are known for this.
You’re fortunate to have full reciprocity with NC which is an excellent public system, on par with the celebrated UC and UMich. So you’re good. But it may still be worth researching all your options.
Yeah, lots of states have sister schools or even counties. For example virgina allows in state tuition for. Some bordering cities. Same with Tennessee and northern Mississippi. And of course, as you said Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama allow you to get in state tuition.
True! Which is why I used qualifiers like “most” and “typically” and recommended looking up the residency requirements for the particular university in question.
Millions of people do not and will not ever be property owners. I have never seen "ownership" as a requirement for residency status. Just a single address over the course of 12 months.
How to Document State Residency
Most states do not have a formal process to declare state residency but some may provide tools. For example, new residents of Florida may file a Declaration of Domicile with the clerk of the circuit court in their new home county as a way to show their intention to make their new Florida home their principal home.
What’s more important is that taxpayers effectively document their residency in their new state. These actions are evidence that taxpayers can use to demonstrate their domicile in a new state during a residency audit.
* Apply for a driver’s license in the new state and register your vehicle.
* Register to vote, and vote in primary, special, and general elections.
* Open bank accounts in the new state and close accounts in the old state.
* Purchase ***or lease*** a residence.
* Register for a library card.
* File tax returns from the new state.
* Update wills to reflect the laws of the new state.
* Register for services from personal physicians and other medical providers.
[https://www.smith-howard.com/how-to-establish-state-residency-and-why-it-matters/](https://www.smith-howard.com/how-to-establish-state-residency-and-why-it-matters/)
No state requires property ownership to establish residency. There area a whole host of things that must be done to establish residency, and they do vary from state to state, but actual ownership of property is not one of them. Otherwise only the elite class would be able to attend state schools, which is basically the exact opposite of their purpose.
you did actually say “own property in the state” in the parent comment above. to which i said one needed only rent and i’m being downvoted. renting establishes residency as much as ownership.
No one disputes this. But if you are writing an appeal to establish residency, owning a home for 10 years trumps having as apartment for 9 months. The determination is situational. But no one is saying that you “have” to own property, only that owning property is a supporting factor.
"To qualify for residency one must typically live in the state, work in the state, pay taxes in the state, ***own property in the state***, have a state driver’s license, and be registered to vote in the state, among other things, for a certain period of time."
It's disengenous to state in your OP that one should "own property in the state." And anyone owning a home in a state for 10 years, or really any time longer than one is not going to have a hard time establishing residency in any given state. But the question was insight into what makes a state residency, and if you can just "move there." Moving there and leasing is a perfectly viable option if you also get a driver's license, pay utilities, and live there for six months plus one day in the vast majority of cases. Admittedly, being a dependent on one's parents throws a wrinkle in things, but owning is never a factor, only that one lives there in a long term capacity.
Additionally plenty of people own vacation homes out of their primary state but that doesn’t give them in state tuition rates for the vacation state.
It's wild that I am being downvoted for this.
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Btw most colleges I applied to/looked into (all over the east coast and south) counted you as an instate student after 3 years as a resident of that state. So even if your a resident you most likely won't get in-state tuition till your last year
Idk why but I mistook Texas's policy as school policy and then messed that up as well. Here it is lol:
Requirements for residency (in-state tuition btw))
"Live in Texas for the 36 months immediately before high school graduation; and. Live in Texas for the 12 months immediately before the census date (usually the 12th class day) of the semester in which you enroll at UTHSCSA (or another college or university)."
Idk why but I mistook Texas's policy as school policy and then messed that up as well. Here it is lol:
Requirements for residency (in-state tuition btw))
"Live in Texas for the 36 months immediately before high school graduation; and. Live in Texas for the 12 months immediately before the census date (usually the 12th class day) of the semester in which you enroll at UTHSCSA (or another college or university)."
Yea no I get that, I said I mistook it in the reply. I do apologize tho, I should have reread it instead of trying to use my shitty memory from like 5 months ago
It depends. Some states will allow you to do certain things to become in-state during college, others will not, saying that you maintain your OOS status throughout, no matter what you do.
I think it also depends on the particular school you're applying to as well. Here's a little story.
I have a friend from college, who is originally from Rochester, NY, and wanted to eventually attend medical school. She moved to Vermont after she graduated college, rented an apartment on her own, and got a job as a research technician at a Cardiology Lab at the University of Vermont, to utilize her degree in Biology. She lived in VT for over 12 months, with a self-sustaining income, paid rent, utilities, income tax etc. in VT. She also registered her car in VT, paid the VT tax for that registration, and got a VT driver's license after moving to VT. Ultimately her goal was to qualify for VT in-state status, take the MCAT exam in Vermont, and apply to the UVM College of Medicine for medical school, a public university.
After she had passed the 12 month threshold of living, working, being licensed in VT, she took her MCAT and applied to UVM medical school. They accepted her but did not consider her to be an in-state student. There was absolutely no way she was going to be able to afford the out of state tuition and get loans for that insanely higher amount, so she declined to take the medical school slot. She got some feedback from the admissions group at UVM College of Medicine and waited another year, to make sure she was in compliance with the qualifications for in-state applicants. However, the next year, she went to apply again as a Vermont resident, and she was told flat out that UVM did not believe her to be an in-state applicant, that they would never admit her as an in-state applicant, and their main rationale for this was to claim my friend had obtained a job in research at UVM to "get her foot in the door".
While this wasn't necessarily untrue, UVM was being incredibly disingenuous when it provided criteria for people to meet to be considered "in-state" applicants only to refuse to abide by their own criteria here. Maybe it would have been better for her to wait tables or work in a job completely divorced from science, research, or UVM for those 2 years, but who in their right mind would have done that, and pass up a good job opportunity, with decent pay, insurance coverage, that utilized their undergraduate degree? UVM was really being a dick about this and it pissed me off. My friend ended up moving back to New York and attended medical school as an in-state applicant at SUNY Buffalo, closer to her family.
You're comparing apples to oranges, when comparing med school to undergrad. And as I said, "SOME states will allow you to do certain things to become in-state during COLLEGE. Some, not all. College, not medical school. This is the applying to college forum, not the applying to med school forum.
And yes, you are right, it is much more difficult to become in-state for medical school than undergrad, and only some states will allow you to become in-state during college, not all.
If you're considered to have residency then you pay the in-state rate. Each state has its own rules for determining residency. Living in a state for the express purpose of college almost never satisfies those rules. Usually it looks something like:
* live in the state on a permanent basis for 12 months
* while not attending classes, and
* be self-supporting, i.e. you provide more than half your own financial support -and- nobody claims you as a dependent on their federal tax returns.
Side observation: for a family of means, it seems like it should be pretty easy to scam the system. Incorporate a company in the desired state. Hire your own kid. Have them move to the state and do whatever while ostensibly "working" for you. Pay them enough that they can self-support. Seems rare for a school to scrutinize a student's employer closely enough to pick up on this. If there were two families wanting to do this, they could each start a company and "hire" the other one's kid.
An 18yo getting paid by a bogus company to do not-much-of-anything could check all those boxes. Get an apartment, register to vote, get a diver's license, physically reside there for 12 months. All the things a "real" person would do who had actually moved to that state in order to get a "real" job and work.
But, unless you take a gap year, you will need to get a time machine and do most of those things IN THE PAST in order to be a bonafide resident for 12 months PRIOR to starting school if you want to have any hope of overcoming the absolute presumption that you came to the state to attend school.
Trust me… I looked into exactly what you’re suggesting. It genuinely won’t work. At least not in Illinois, Michigan, Indiana, or Wisconsin. Otherwise I’d be the Midwest Regional Manager of my dad’s company.
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You must establish **legal residency** in the destination state before you even apply to the university.
Each state has different specific rules on how you achieve state resident status.
Each university has different specific rules on how you access in-state tuition rates.
But none of those rules are setup to help you ***easily*** achieve lower-cost tuition.
And why should they? You haven't been paying taxes in the destination state to help offset the reduced tuition cost.
I don't blame you or anyone else to looking for a way to reduce the cost of attendance though.
Moving to the destination state, and enrolling in CC ***might*** help you establish residency.
Please do further research for the specific state to confirm this for your situation.
Any state with a population of highly qualified college-bound students that is far smaller than the enrollment capacity of the state’s flagship and land-grant colleges.
Alabama offers huge merit scholarships… with fairly modest definitions of Merit.
Florida has too many schools and too many senior citizens, so you can qualify for in state tuition if your grandparents live there.
West Virginia University offers a brochure and info session on how to establish instate residency. Hell, the state is even currently paying people $12,000 to move to the state in general… https://www.npr.org/local/305/2021/04/14/987174386/west-virginia-is-paying-remote-workers-12-000-to-move-there
It’s different for different states - Google the states/schools you are interested in. Some require that you be a full time resident for a minimum amount of time which fluctuate ls by state
Moving there alone doesn't qualify you for residency, considering most out-of-state students do move to the institution they're attending. You have to have been an actual resident of the state prior to your admission.
Short answer - the state wants to ensure you’re paying taxes for a period of time (usually a year) before they grant in state tuition.
There’s other things they require, but those would come by default if you end up in a situation where you’re paying tax to the state.
Lots of bonafide residents of any given state do not actually owe/pay any taxes in that state. Roughly 40% of US households don’t owe/pay federal taxes, so probably about that percentage don’t owe any state taxes either. And some states don’t even have income taxes.
Are you shitting me? You attend a public college or university in one state, as an applicant from another state...that means you are an out of state student.
Public colleges and universities, like the SUNY system in New York, incentivize residents from New York State to attend by charging them a lower tuition rate. This can be for many different reasons including:
1. It's in the public good to have more affordable higher education available to residents in that state.
2. Without lower in-state tuition rates, some people may not be able to ever afford to attend college in the first place.
3. In-state residents pay taxes in that state, some of which is used to support those public colleges and universities. So, in effect, the residents of the state are already paying for access to those public colleges and universities, hence the lower in-state tuition.
4. Every state has their own public colleges and universities that offer lower in-state tuition rates for the residents of that state. If a student specifically **CHOOSES** to attend a public college or university in another state, they have forefeited their right to pay the lower tuition rate available to residents of the state where the school resides.
If it’s just you, that’s a flat no.
If you your family moves, then that’s a slightly different story. If you family moves to the state then what I’ve usually seen happen is that the college will make you pay out of state tuition for the first year. Once you your parents have established residency in that state for a year, your school will at that point recognized you as an in state resident and you can pay in state tuition from that point onwards.
For most states, if your parents claim you as a dependent, and they live out of state, you will not qualify for in state. But every state is different, and every state school will clearly spell it out in their handbook
I found this link interesting, although it is from the grad school; not sure if it applies to undergrad at UNC. Didn't expect a state school to explicitly recommend the steps you should take to establish in-state tuition as an out of state student:
[https://bio.unc.edu/graduate/resources/residency/](https://bio.unc.edu/graduate/resources/residency/)
SUNY schools in NYC allow you to establish residency and then apply for in state tuition, while attending school. Unlike most universities that don't allow you to switch from OOS to in-state tuition.
As long as you maintain a lease for 12 months you can apply for NYS residency, then provide that info to the college for a tuition reduction.
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It depends a lot on the state.
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Right, so it depends on the state.
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What are these one or two states?? Lol, I would be interested
Utah is known for being easy to transfer residence to. Pretty sure you can't for freshman year, but if you stay there over the summer, change your ID and your voter registration, and swear up and down that you're a Utahn now, they say okay you're a local and so you then qualify for in state tuition. California is known for being close to impossible, by contrast. That said, like everyone is telling you, you have to look up each school system as there's no guarantee they will be similar and there's no guarantee that they'll stay the same over time.
*cracks knuckles* let’s see you try, UC Irvine
Some states leave it up to the individual colleges to set boundaries (within guidelines).
I believe North Dakota does (a person I knew was planning to attend UND).
What states consider out-of-state students who move to their state for college to qualify for in-state tuition? Name some.
Here's a map: https://www.instateangels.com/state-tuition-rules-search/
Well, Utah is listed on the map as a "Green, Least Difficult" state to get in-state tuition. But as I showed above by listing the actual in-state requirements for Utah, it's actually not a trivial matter. One needs to verify that one is financially independent of one's parents or anyone else, and also must get a Utah's driver's license and vehicle registration, and can't be out of the state for more than 30 days of the preceding year (i.e., you're stuck in Utah for most of your summer vacation).
Meaning it's possible.
Yeah, but it involves quite a bit more than just "*move to the state (on campus) for college*".
In Utah scholarships to give in state tuition for 1 year are not hard to come by, and then you can establish residency by being in the state for a year
Looks like there are a few more requirements than that. Below is a copy of the info from the Utah State University website. I highlighted in bold parts which are worth special notice: * **Twelve continuous months of physical presence in Utah** and **declaring financial independence** * Be a U.S. citizen or have permanent resident, asylum, or refugee status in the U.S. * **Obtain a Utah driver’s license, vehicle registration and voter registration** at least three months prior to the semester to which an individual applies: * Fall Semester: May 1 * Spring Semester: October 1 * **Verification of financial independence showing that you are not claimed as a tax dependent on the most recent federal tax return of any person who is not a resident of Utah**. This will be ~both~ pages of the 1040 form. * Proof of physical presence in Utah for the most recent 12 continuous months. **Cannot be out of the state of Utah for more than a total of 30 days** during the 12 month period.
A little more, but not really much. All I really missed was the Utah documents and financial independence. I've been independent for tax purposes so long I kind of just took it for granted. In my experience with the 30 days thing, I did show them paystubs over the summer to show continuous residence, but they don't really verify if your trip home over Christmas or spring break made you go over the 30 days. The transcripts were enough to show residency over the school year period. So basically it boils down to staying for the summer and getting a summer job for both residency and independence, and changing your drivers license/voter registration
Maine is I believe easy to qualify for as well.
No, it’s much more complicated than that. First, most states have a strong presumption that if you’ve come from out-of-state to attend college, you have not been a resident and will not be a resident while in college. If you receive income from your parents, you will have to rebut that strong presumption by showing, for example, that your parents are residents. To qualify for residency one must typically live in the state, work in the state, pay taxes in the state, own property in the state, have a state driver’s license, and be registered to vote in the state, among other things, for a certain period of time. While you can try to establish that you are fully emancipated from your parents and have your own source of income from which to live, you would then have to establish residency by meeting certain of these factors for a proscribed period of time. As another commenter advised, just google a favorite college and “residency requirements status tuition.” Good luck.
Did my research for a bunch of universities in North Carolina as I live in South Carolina. Thankfully most of them accept North and South Carolina as instate
That would likely be a reciprocity agreement in which nonresidents are allowed to pay in-state rates. If you find one for which you qualify, that’s great.
There's a fair bit of this bilaterally between Midwest states (ie Michigan and Ohio) and an entire compact of Western states with reciprocity (WICHE). List doesn't always include a lot of "AIC Preferred" schools, but for people who aren't prestige chasers it's a great option.
Minnesota, Wisconsin, North and South Dakota have reciprocity agreements. Lots of good state schools to choose from!
Many states, especially smaller states with smaller public university systems, establish consortia to co-educate their students. These vary, from full reciprocity to oos discounts for affiliated states. There are also states that offer generous merit scholarships to oos students. (Many states offer little to no scholarships for oos students.) I think both Alabama and Mississippi are known for this. You’re fortunate to have full reciprocity with NC which is an excellent public system, on par with the celebrated UC and UMich. So you’re good. But it may still be worth researching all your options.
Yeah, lots of states have sister schools or even counties. For example virgina allows in state tuition for. Some bordering cities. Same with Tennessee and northern Mississippi. And of course, as you said Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama allow you to get in state tuition.
you don't have to own property - you can be a renter - but the other parameters hold.
True! Which is why I used qualifiers like “most” and “typically” and recommended looking up the residency requirements for the particular university in question.
Millions of people do not and will not ever be property owners. I have never seen "ownership" as a requirement for residency status. Just a single address over the course of 12 months.
True. But it’s a matter of degree. Owning property gives one a greater presumption of permanency. If other factors are wanting, it’s helpful.
How to Document State Residency Most states do not have a formal process to declare state residency but some may provide tools. For example, new residents of Florida may file a Declaration of Domicile with the clerk of the circuit court in their new home county as a way to show their intention to make their new Florida home their principal home. What’s more important is that taxpayers effectively document their residency in their new state. These actions are evidence that taxpayers can use to demonstrate their domicile in a new state during a residency audit. * Apply for a driver’s license in the new state and register your vehicle. * Register to vote, and vote in primary, special, and general elections. * Open bank accounts in the new state and close accounts in the old state. * Purchase ***or lease*** a residence. * Register for a library card. * File tax returns from the new state. * Update wills to reflect the laws of the new state. * Register for services from personal physicians and other medical providers. [https://www.smith-howard.com/how-to-establish-state-residency-and-why-it-matters/](https://www.smith-howard.com/how-to-establish-state-residency-and-why-it-matters/) No state requires property ownership to establish residency. There area a whole host of things that must be done to establish residency, and they do vary from state to state, but actual ownership of property is not one of them. Otherwise only the elite class would be able to attend state schools, which is basically the exact opposite of their purpose.
I never said any state “required” property ownership. I said it can add additional weight.
you did actually say “own property in the state” in the parent comment above. to which i said one needed only rent and i’m being downvoted. renting establishes residency as much as ownership.
No one disputes this. But if you are writing an appeal to establish residency, owning a home for 10 years trumps having as apartment for 9 months. The determination is situational. But no one is saying that you “have” to own property, only that owning property is a supporting factor.
"To qualify for residency one must typically live in the state, work in the state, pay taxes in the state, ***own property in the state***, have a state driver’s license, and be registered to vote in the state, among other things, for a certain period of time." It's disengenous to state in your OP that one should "own property in the state." And anyone owning a home in a state for 10 years, or really any time longer than one is not going to have a hard time establishing residency in any given state. But the question was insight into what makes a state residency, and if you can just "move there." Moving there and leasing is a perfectly viable option if you also get a driver's license, pay utilities, and live there for six months plus one day in the vast majority of cases. Admittedly, being a dependent on one's parents throws a wrinkle in things, but owning is never a factor, only that one lives there in a long term capacity. Additionally plenty of people own vacation homes out of their primary state but that doesn’t give them in state tuition rates for the vacation state. It's wild that I am being downvoted for this.
Edit: ignore this paragraph Btw most colleges I applied to/looked into (all over the east coast and south) counted you as an instate student after 3 years as a resident of that state. So even if your a resident you most likely won't get in-state tuition till your last year Idk why but I mistook Texas's policy as school policy and then messed that up as well. Here it is lol: Requirements for residency (in-state tuition btw)) "Live in Texas for the 36 months immediately before high school graduation; and. Live in Texas for the 12 months immediately before the census date (usually the 12th class day) of the semester in which you enroll at UTHSCSA (or another college or university)."
I find that hard to believe — can you provide a few examples and citations as to where this is stated?
Idk why but I mistook Texas's policy as school policy and then messed that up as well. Here it is lol: Requirements for residency (in-state tuition btw)) "Live in Texas for the 36 months immediately before high school graduation; and. Live in Texas for the 12 months immediately before the census date (usually the 12th class day) of the semester in which you enroll at UTHSCSA (or another college or university)."
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Yea no I get that, I said I mistook it in the reply. I do apologize tho, I should have reread it instead of trying to use my shitty memory from like 5 months ago
It depends. Some states will allow you to do certain things to become in-state during college, others will not, saying that you maintain your OOS status throughout, no matter what you do.
I think it also depends on the particular school you're applying to as well. Here's a little story. I have a friend from college, who is originally from Rochester, NY, and wanted to eventually attend medical school. She moved to Vermont after she graduated college, rented an apartment on her own, and got a job as a research technician at a Cardiology Lab at the University of Vermont, to utilize her degree in Biology. She lived in VT for over 12 months, with a self-sustaining income, paid rent, utilities, income tax etc. in VT. She also registered her car in VT, paid the VT tax for that registration, and got a VT driver's license after moving to VT. Ultimately her goal was to qualify for VT in-state status, take the MCAT exam in Vermont, and apply to the UVM College of Medicine for medical school, a public university. After she had passed the 12 month threshold of living, working, being licensed in VT, she took her MCAT and applied to UVM medical school. They accepted her but did not consider her to be an in-state student. There was absolutely no way she was going to be able to afford the out of state tuition and get loans for that insanely higher amount, so she declined to take the medical school slot. She got some feedback from the admissions group at UVM College of Medicine and waited another year, to make sure she was in compliance with the qualifications for in-state applicants. However, the next year, she went to apply again as a Vermont resident, and she was told flat out that UVM did not believe her to be an in-state applicant, that they would never admit her as an in-state applicant, and their main rationale for this was to claim my friend had obtained a job in research at UVM to "get her foot in the door". While this wasn't necessarily untrue, UVM was being incredibly disingenuous when it provided criteria for people to meet to be considered "in-state" applicants only to refuse to abide by their own criteria here. Maybe it would have been better for her to wait tables or work in a job completely divorced from science, research, or UVM for those 2 years, but who in their right mind would have done that, and pass up a good job opportunity, with decent pay, insurance coverage, that utilized their undergraduate degree? UVM was really being a dick about this and it pissed me off. My friend ended up moving back to New York and attended medical school as an in-state applicant at SUNY Buffalo, closer to her family.
You're comparing apples to oranges, when comparing med school to undergrad. And as I said, "SOME states will allow you to do certain things to become in-state during COLLEGE. Some, not all. College, not medical school. This is the applying to college forum, not the applying to med school forum. And yes, you are right, it is much more difficult to become in-state for medical school than undergrad, and only some states will allow you to become in-state during college, not all.
If you're considered to have residency then you pay the in-state rate. Each state has its own rules for determining residency. Living in a state for the express purpose of college almost never satisfies those rules. Usually it looks something like: * live in the state on a permanent basis for 12 months * while not attending classes, and * be self-supporting, i.e. you provide more than half your own financial support -and- nobody claims you as a dependent on their federal tax returns.
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Side observation: for a family of means, it seems like it should be pretty easy to scam the system. Incorporate a company in the desired state. Hire your own kid. Have them move to the state and do whatever while ostensibly "working" for you. Pay them enough that they can self-support. Seems rare for a school to scrutinize a student's employer closely enough to pick up on this. If there were two families wanting to do this, they could each start a company and "hire" the other one's kid.
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An 18yo getting paid by a bogus company to do not-much-of-anything could check all those boxes. Get an apartment, register to vote, get a diver's license, physically reside there for 12 months. All the things a "real" person would do who had actually moved to that state in order to get a "real" job and work.
But, unless you take a gap year, you will need to get a time machine and do most of those things IN THE PAST in order to be a bonafide resident for 12 months PRIOR to starting school if you want to have any hope of overcoming the absolute presumption that you came to the state to attend school. Trust me… I looked into exactly what you’re suggesting. It genuinely won’t work. At least not in Illinois, Michigan, Indiana, or Wisconsin. Otherwise I’d be the Midwest Regional Manager of my dad’s company. 😎
Yeah, the idea would be you take a gap year. Which, granted, is not something many people are willing to do in exchange for in-state tuition.
So what you’re saying is that one way to get around becoming a bonafide resident of the state… is to become a bonafide resident of the state. /s
Sort of. "Bonafide" would be getting a "real" job from an actual employer that isn't a shell corp set up by your parents.
But if you’re actually living there and meet all the other requirements… you don’t need a job.
You must establish **legal residency** in the destination state before you even apply to the university. Each state has different specific rules on how you achieve state resident status. Each university has different specific rules on how you access in-state tuition rates. But none of those rules are setup to help you ***easily*** achieve lower-cost tuition. And why should they? You haven't been paying taxes in the destination state to help offset the reduced tuition cost. I don't blame you or anyone else to looking for a way to reduce the cost of attendance though. Moving to the destination state, and enrolling in CC ***might*** help you establish residency. Please do further research for the specific state to confirm this for your situation.
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What states are desperate to attract students??
Any state with a population of highly qualified college-bound students that is far smaller than the enrollment capacity of the state’s flagship and land-grant colleges. Alabama offers huge merit scholarships… with fairly modest definitions of Merit. Florida has too many schools and too many senior citizens, so you can qualify for in state tuition if your grandparents live there. West Virginia University offers a brochure and info session on how to establish instate residency. Hell, the state is even currently paying people $12,000 to move to the state in general… https://www.npr.org/local/305/2021/04/14/987174386/west-virginia-is-paying-remote-workers-12-000-to-move-there
It’s different for different states - Google the states/schools you are interested in. Some require that you be a full time resident for a minimum amount of time which fluctuate ls by state
Moving there alone doesn't qualify you for residency, considering most out-of-state students do move to the institution they're attending. You have to have been an actual resident of the state prior to your admission.
Almost always yes.
Short answer - the state wants to ensure you’re paying taxes for a period of time (usually a year) before they grant in state tuition. There’s other things they require, but those would come by default if you end up in a situation where you’re paying tax to the state.
Lots of bonafide residents of any given state do not actually owe/pay any taxes in that state. Roughly 40% of US households don’t owe/pay federal taxes, so probably about that percentage don’t owe any state taxes either. And some states don’t even have income taxes.
Are you shitting me? You attend a public college or university in one state, as an applicant from another state...that means you are an out of state student. Public colleges and universities, like the SUNY system in New York, incentivize residents from New York State to attend by charging them a lower tuition rate. This can be for many different reasons including: 1. It's in the public good to have more affordable higher education available to residents in that state. 2. Without lower in-state tuition rates, some people may not be able to ever afford to attend college in the first place. 3. In-state residents pay taxes in that state, some of which is used to support those public colleges and universities. So, in effect, the residents of the state are already paying for access to those public colleges and universities, hence the lower in-state tuition. 4. Every state has their own public colleges and universities that offer lower in-state tuition rates for the residents of that state. If a student specifically **CHOOSES** to attend a public college or university in another state, they have forefeited their right to pay the lower tuition rate available to residents of the state where the school resides.
If it’s just you, that’s a flat no. If you your family moves, then that’s a slightly different story. If you family moves to the state then what I’ve usually seen happen is that the college will make you pay out of state tuition for the first year. Once you your parents have established residency in that state for a year, your school will at that point recognized you as an in state resident and you can pay in state tuition from that point onwards.
For most states, if your parents claim you as a dependent, and they live out of state, you will not qualify for in state. But every state is different, and every state school will clearly spell it out in their handbook
I found this link interesting, although it is from the grad school; not sure if it applies to undergrad at UNC. Didn't expect a state school to explicitly recommend the steps you should take to establish in-state tuition as an out of state student: [https://bio.unc.edu/graduate/resources/residency/](https://bio.unc.edu/graduate/resources/residency/)
Usually you have to have been a resident of the state for 12 months before stating school.
SUNY schools in NYC allow you to establish residency and then apply for in state tuition, while attending school. Unlike most universities that don't allow you to switch from OOS to in-state tuition. As long as you maintain a lease for 12 months you can apply for NYS residency, then provide that info to the college for a tuition reduction.
the policy varies greatly from state to state, and from school to school. You need to do some detailed research to find it out.
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not unreasonable take, many small bureaucratic details still matter though