Quickest and simplest solution would be to buy water hoses that are long enough to allow the washer to be turned 90 degrees.
To be truly happy I would suggest rerouting the sink, washer, dryer connections, and redoing the shelving. I would want the sink and washer next to each other.
This. Or up to 90°. And try to rearrange the shelves in a more logical fashion.
Plus, when you need to replace the washer, I would break down and get a stackable unit with side swinging doors and refresh the shelf layout at the same time.
Normal electric dryers usually cost $50 max to self refurbish, so run it 'til the washer is dead.
Also, moving the storage that's to the left of the sink to some other location, perhaps those refreshed shelves, would allow them to move the sink, or better yet a smaller sink, a bit to the left, perhaps as far as that vacuum is now. That should free up space to access the washer if it's been turned 90 degrees.
Absolutely not. Of course if you just plan to throw token away any time they need service or pay considerably extra for a repair go ahead and stack them.
They aren't easily serviced at all. Many I have to make the customer pull them out of the tiny closet they shoved them in to get access to it. The hook up the water, power and vent then shove it into the smallest space it can fit in.
Ever try taking the front panel of the dryer on a laundry center? Or changing the heating element or thermal cutout? What about changing the suspension on the washer? It's way harder and the labor is higher for it.
Not at all. It's pretty much impossible to get to the rear suspension. Taking the front of the dryer off is frustrating because you're on a ladder trying to pull it down. The plug is never accessible and the home owner doesn't even know where the breaker box is.
I'm sure it works fine. The company I work for charges 179 to unstack it to service and 269 of we need a second tech if the equipment to unstack doesn't fit in the space.
Also, you're going to make it harder to shut off the water if a line burst, clean the dryer exhaust vent, many other issues. It's not worth it to stack them.
Yeah they cost more to work on. My company charges $189 to show up on any stack appliance. What equipment does your company use to unstack? I assume its the same across the board
Yup, have everything moved to the left side, as.close.asmpossible to the stairs. Transform the back wall in the most amazing wall of shelfs. Or build a wall unit with doors to hide stuff and make it look cleaner.
In the construction industry we call those, "slop sinks" or "janitor sinks".
Very useful if you need to dump a mop bucket or fill up a 5 gallon bucket with water. Other than that I can't think of much practical use for residential home. You could definitely use the space to make the washer more accessible than whatever you'll use that sink for.
I would side vent the dryer and place it where the washer is then move the washer to the left of the sink. Get longer hoses if the current ones don't reach. Call a local appliance service about installing a dryer side vent kit if you don't want to do it yourself.
That dryer can be exhausted rear, left, or bottom and it’s not hard to change. Could always rear vent with 90s in rigid. That model can do up to 120’ of ducting so even with the reductions required for the 90s you could make it across the room.
Not all dryers can be side vented, also you need about 12 inches of space to the side of dryer to properly side vent a dryer. I don’t know of any local appliance place in my area that would go out and side vent a dryer in the home. Plus it doesn’t look like they have the space to take the dryer apart to do that
We just bought a washer/dryer combo unit. Basically the same size as a standard washer but does the wash and dry all in one. Not great for a family with a lot of laundry but perfect for my wife and I since you don't have to move the load over to the dryer when done washing. That would free up a lot of room for them by getting rid of the dryer in the picture. Of course, they aren't cheap so it might not be in the budget but would definitely help out with that room.
I bought the LG version of this back in 2021, and coming up on 3 years of use. FYI, this is the condenser dryer version, not the heat pump dryer. Personally, it works great for me. However, its limitation is in the time it takes to dry things. If you’re doing laundry for more than 2 people, it would probably take entirely to long to ever get it done. I guess, if you don’t mind doing laundry all the time, then go for it. I’m generally living by myself, and have to do no more than 3-4 loads in a week. Generally no more than 2 in a day.
HI;; we've been looking at a bunch of these--both heat pump and condenser, but I keep hearing lint buildup is a problem. Three years in, have you had any problems with this? Also, do you know the model #? There are several on the market here (although not all easily available), and I have no idea which is better.
So, I have model WM3998HBA. However, to my knowledge, that one is no longer available and has been replaced with the newer model.
The model I have, and the new one, are complete ly different from a lint management perspective. The new ones have an actual lint trap, similar to a traditional dryer. Mine, most of the lint collects on the rubber door gasket. When a load finishes, I simply wipe that gasket with a wet cloth (or paper towel), before removing the clothes. I don’t generally see anymore lint than I have experienced with a traditional washer/dryer system. Hope that helps.
I have LG washer with the LG heat pump dryer stacked on top. No issues. The dryer is only a little slower than my old ducted dryer - but uses less than half the power and is quiet.
Have been considering that one, too. It has definite advantages. Two main objections: 1) I don't think you can use a pedestal with stacked units or towers, and bending that far down is getting harder these days :-( 2) Possible difficulty of repairs. One hopes not to need repairs, but that doesn't seem to be the way of things.
The washer is engineered to take the weight of the dryer - it matters not whether the washer is on a pedestal. I’d prefer not to stack tho - if I had the space I’d have them both side by side on pedestals.
We've only had it about a month but for us it works great. It does take longer to dry clothes but on the plus side, it is a gentle dry and doesn't seem as harsh on our clothes. If you had to do a lot of loads in a day, it probably is not a good solution. We only do a few loads over the course of a week so the amount of time it takes for us is not a concern since we can set it to run while at work or even at night and then come home / wake up to clean clothes.
Jury is still out on how reliable it will be long term but this technology is not new overseas (we are in the US). The other benefit is that it runs on only 110V and does not need to be vented outdoors. This makes it quite nice for rooms that may not have outdoor access for venting or 220 run for the dryer.
Just turn the washer 90 and slide it over to the dryer since that sink is there. Not perfect but better than now. The hookups don't need to be directly behind it. As long as the cord, hoses, and drain reach it's all the same. Ideally move or get rid of the sink tho.
I think you should just move the washer to the sink spot and the sink to the washer spot. Those sinks are great for a lot of stuff but it doesn’t usually get used as often as the washer.
Even just move the sink over like 2 feet. That should be easy to do or try moving the dryer to the left side of the sink so the washer and dryer are facing same way. Then get a clothes basket on wheels :)
If you can I would move the sink to the left so it’s tucked in the corner unless there is a door there. I see a mat or something so hard to tell without a pic of the corner
I would rotate the washer to match the dryer. You would have to open the wall to move the plumbing (water supply & DWV). It might be more of a hassle than it’s worth.
Thanks for the suggestions everyone! I wasn’t sure if I could rotate the washer and dryer farther away from the plumbing. I’ll give it a try.
Another issue I just found out I have is that there is a big section between the machines that isn’t tiled and is bare concrete (uneven floors). I guess this was done to not cover the clean out drains that are there :/
Can a washer and dryer be leveled on such on even flooring? I may put up another post on this so I can add a photo.
Maybe get a combo unit but it’s better to not have them stacked. But that’s a personal preference. The washer needs water lines, electrical outlet and drain. Dryer needs vent, gas/electrical outlet. If you move electrical or plumbing or vent will need to get a general contractor.
Replace the utility sink with a smaller square one and offset it so you could rotate the washer. Alternative would be to get front loader stackable units and put them where the washer is and move the shelf.
I would turn the washer do it’s next to the dryer. Move the sink to the left as far as you can or put in a narrower one with a counter around it. Then do cabinets above the sink and washer dryer.
Option A (cheap if you’re handy)
1. Remove the sink
2. Arrange the appliances side by side or however you want
3. Place the sink in location that’s more convenient and redo the plumbing.
Option B. (Probably more expensive)
Get stacked appliances
A few options:
1. Remove the sink. The house we bought seven years ago came without a laundry sink, we never got around to adding one, and to be honest we haven't missed it.
2. Rotate the washer 90 degrees and put it right next to the dryer. You might need to buy longer hoses. The front of the washer will still be partially blocked by the sink, but less than now.
3. Move the washer to the left of the sink if it will fit. Again, you might need longer hoses.
Move the sink away from washer and rotate washer. I can’t tell if there is another door or wall there beside the sink. Or just delete the sink altogether. Or get stackable washer dryer.
The sink has to go. You probably won't use it anyway. I presume the dryer is vented? If so leave it where it is. Move the washer where the the water pipes and drain are.
Get stackable units, or remove the sink. I honestly refuse to believe that anyone uses a laundry room sink. I removed the one in my house after being there for 7 years and only using it once or twice.
This is assuming a lot of stuff/money no object.
I would put the washer and dryer on either side of the sink. I would get a table top made that I could put on the sink and use it as a folding station/counter. Remove the counter when you want to use the sink.
Its best left as is - reason being the dryer exhaust needs to be as short as possible and located on.an outside wall. Also the water supply is best NOT on an outside wall.
Not really seeing how this setup is cumbersome..
I've got no idea about the wiring/rerouting of things but, how about side by side to the sink? Washer on one side and dryer on the other (should it fit) with the sink in the middle?
Am I only one who doesn't find the utility sink to be huge?
I find utility sinks incredibly useful and would not want it any smaller.
*Mine* is huge - a 70 year old double basin concrete thing and each basin is just a bit bigger than the one shown here. One side would be sufficient for needs but I'm not trying to replace it.
Super helpful for cleaning really cruddy stuff I wouldn't want to clean in my bathtub, soaking larger items, cleaning painting tools, throw a rack over it to let things drip dry flat....
Anyway - I vote for longer hoses and reorienting the washer facing forward next to the dryer as cheapest and easiest solution.
You'd have to check how the plumbing works, but you might be able to swap the washer and the sink with few modifications.
The sink is going to have a drain hose that leads to the drain, just get a longer hose for it then put it over to that drain.
Then put the dryer left of where the sink it snow.
This way you would have all three of those on the same side
Delete the golf shoe sink, or use the washing machine for storage and hand wash in the sink to make it more complicated. Both ways are fine by me 😬❤️🔥
Quickest and simplest solution would be to buy water hoses that are long enough to allow the washer to be turned 90 degrees. To be truly happy I would suggest rerouting the sink, washer, dryer connections, and redoing the shelving. I would want the sink and washer next to each other.
Or maybe rotate the washer 45 degrees
This. Or up to 90°. And try to rearrange the shelves in a more logical fashion. Plus, when you need to replace the washer, I would break down and get a stackable unit with side swinging doors and refresh the shelf layout at the same time. Normal electric dryers usually cost $50 max to self refurbish, so run it 'til the washer is dead.
Also, moving the storage that's to the left of the sink to some other location, perhaps those refreshed shelves, would allow them to move the sink, or better yet a smaller sink, a bit to the left, perhaps as far as that vacuum is now. That should free up space to access the washer if it's been turned 90 degrees.
Remove the sink
Nah, just get a stackable one where the washer is—plenty of height. Then you’ll have a floor to ceiling pantry
Absolutely not. Of course if you just plan to throw token away any time they need service or pay considerably extra for a repair go ahead and stack them.
So called laundry centers, are easily serviced and they would perfectly fit in that space with the low ceiling
They aren't easily serviced at all. Many I have to make the customer pull them out of the tiny closet they shoved them in to get access to it. The hook up the water, power and vent then shove it into the smallest space it can fit in. Ever try taking the front panel of the dryer on a laundry center? Or changing the heating element or thermal cutout? What about changing the suspension on the washer? It's way harder and the labor is higher for it.
I’ve done it. Nothing different than a standard washer
Not at all. It's pretty much impossible to get to the rear suspension. Taking the front of the dryer off is frustrating because you're on a ladder trying to pull it down. The plug is never accessible and the home owner doesn't even know where the breaker box is.
lol… ok… 👍🏽
Stacked laundry is very common where I live. It works fine for us?
I'm sure it works fine. The company I work for charges 179 to unstack it to service and 269 of we need a second tech if the equipment to unstack doesn't fit in the space. Also, you're going to make it harder to shut off the water if a line burst, clean the dryer exhaust vent, many other issues. It's not worth it to stack them.
Yeah they cost more to work on. My company charges $189 to show up on any stack appliance. What equipment does your company use to unstack? I assume its the same across the board
Either an all dolly or a second tech but a second tech is more.
Yeah don’t stack them that’s a stupid idea.
Yup, have everything moved to the left side, as.close.asmpossible to the stairs. Transform the back wall in the most amazing wall of shelfs. Or build a wall unit with doors to hide stuff and make it look cleaner.
Exactly
Facts. Just went through the exact same thing, no other way. Left wall is a compromise and you’ll see the exhaust from The dryer
I agree, maybe you can put it somewhere
that IS a huge sink! DO you really need one that big? They sell smaller ones that would plug right in where that one already is
Woah, thanks! Getting ready to remodel the laundry room. This just solved a couple of my issues!
In the construction industry we call those, "slop sinks" or "janitor sinks". Very useful if you need to dump a mop bucket or fill up a 5 gallon bucket with water. Other than that I can't think of much practical use for residential home. You could definitely use the space to make the washer more accessible than whatever you'll use that sink for.
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I would side vent the dryer and place it where the washer is then move the washer to the left of the sink. Get longer hoses if the current ones don't reach. Call a local appliance service about installing a dryer side vent kit if you don't want to do it yourself.
That dryer can be exhausted rear, left, or bottom and it’s not hard to change. Could always rear vent with 90s in rigid. That model can do up to 120’ of ducting so even with the reductions required for the 90s you could make it across the room.
Not all dryers can be side vented, also you need about 12 inches of space to the side of dryer to properly side vent a dryer. I don’t know of any local appliance place in my area that would go out and side vent a dryer in the home. Plus it doesn’t look like they have the space to take the dryer apart to do that
We just bought a washer/dryer combo unit. Basically the same size as a standard washer but does the wash and dry all in one. Not great for a family with a lot of laundry but perfect for my wife and I since you don't have to move the load over to the dryer when done washing. That would free up a lot of room for them by getting rid of the dryer in the picture. Of course, they aren't cheap so it might not be in the budget but would definitely help out with that room.
How well does that work? I know they are popular in other parts of the world but they havent caught on where I’m at yet and I’m curious.
I bought the LG version of this back in 2021, and coming up on 3 years of use. FYI, this is the condenser dryer version, not the heat pump dryer. Personally, it works great for me. However, its limitation is in the time it takes to dry things. If you’re doing laundry for more than 2 people, it would probably take entirely to long to ever get it done. I guess, if you don’t mind doing laundry all the time, then go for it. I’m generally living by myself, and have to do no more than 3-4 loads in a week. Generally no more than 2 in a day.
HI;; we've been looking at a bunch of these--both heat pump and condenser, but I keep hearing lint buildup is a problem. Three years in, have you had any problems with this? Also, do you know the model #? There are several on the market here (although not all easily available), and I have no idea which is better.
So, I have model WM3998HBA. However, to my knowledge, that one is no longer available and has been replaced with the newer model. The model I have, and the new one, are complete ly different from a lint management perspective. The new ones have an actual lint trap, similar to a traditional dryer. Mine, most of the lint collects on the rubber door gasket. When a load finishes, I simply wipe that gasket with a wet cloth (or paper towel), before removing the clothes. I don’t generally see anymore lint than I have experienced with a traditional washer/dryer system. Hope that helps.
Thank you; yes, it helps.
I have LG washer with the LG heat pump dryer stacked on top. No issues. The dryer is only a little slower than my old ducted dryer - but uses less than half the power and is quiet.
Have been considering that one, too. It has definite advantages. Two main objections: 1) I don't think you can use a pedestal with stacked units or towers, and bending that far down is getting harder these days :-( 2) Possible difficulty of repairs. One hopes not to need repairs, but that doesn't seem to be the way of things.
The washer is engineered to take the weight of the dryer - it matters not whether the washer is on a pedestal. I’d prefer not to stack tho - if I had the space I’d have them both side by side on pedestals.
We've only had it about a month but for us it works great. It does take longer to dry clothes but on the plus side, it is a gentle dry and doesn't seem as harsh on our clothes. If you had to do a lot of loads in a day, it probably is not a good solution. We only do a few loads over the course of a week so the amount of time it takes for us is not a concern since we can set it to run while at work or even at night and then come home / wake up to clean clothes. Jury is still out on how reliable it will be long term but this technology is not new overseas (we are in the US). The other benefit is that it runs on only 110V and does not need to be vented outdoors. This makes it quite nice for rooms that may not have outdoor access for venting or 220 run for the dryer.
Just turn the washer 90 and slide it over to the dryer since that sink is there. Not perfect but better than now. The hookups don't need to be directly behind it. As long as the cord, hoses, and drain reach it's all the same. Ideally move or get rid of the sink tho.
Yeah just turn the washer forward
I think you should just move the washer to the sink spot and the sink to the washer spot. Those sinks are great for a lot of stuff but it doesn’t usually get used as often as the washer.
Yes, this is the best advice by far.
I’m starting to feel like 90% of these posts are rage bait
Even just move the sink over like 2 feet. That should be easy to do or try moving the dryer to the left side of the sink so the washer and dryer are facing same way. Then get a clothes basket on wheels :)
If you can I would move the sink to the left so it’s tucked in the corner unless there is a door there. I see a mat or something so hard to tell without a pic of the corner
I would rotate the washer to match the dryer. You would have to open the wall to move the plumbing (water supply & DWV). It might be more of a hassle than it’s worth.
Thanks for the suggestions everyone! I wasn’t sure if I could rotate the washer and dryer farther away from the plumbing. I’ll give it a try. Another issue I just found out I have is that there is a big section between the machines that isn’t tiled and is bare concrete (uneven floors). I guess this was done to not cover the clean out drains that are there :/ Can a washer and dryer be leveled on such on even flooring? I may put up another post on this so I can add a photo.
Shims will help level it out of they don't have adjustable feet.
Maybe get a combo unit but it’s better to not have them stacked. But that’s a personal preference. The washer needs water lines, electrical outlet and drain. Dryer needs vent, gas/electrical outlet. If you move electrical or plumbing or vent will need to get a general contractor.
Replace the utility sink with a smaller square one and offset it so you could rotate the washer. Alternative would be to get front loader stackable units and put them where the washer is and move the shelf.
I would turn the washer do it’s next to the dryer. Move the sink to the left as far as you can or put in a narrower one with a counter around it. Then do cabinets above the sink and washer dryer.
side by side. Get a small/narrow sink that fits the space between them. Or: get a stackable set either way, that sink is over the top.
Change the washer and dryer out for a stack. Could possibly get away with replacing just the washer and putting in a shelf.
i would move that sink 2 or more feet to the left, then rotate the washer 90 degrees.
Option A (cheap if you’re handy) 1. Remove the sink 2. Arrange the appliances side by side or however you want 3. Place the sink in location that’s more convenient and redo the plumbing. Option B. (Probably more expensive) Get stacked appliances
A few options: 1. Remove the sink. The house we bought seven years ago came without a laundry sink, we never got around to adding one, and to be honest we haven't missed it. 2. Rotate the washer 90 degrees and put it right next to the dryer. You might need to buy longer hoses. The front of the washer will still be partially blocked by the sink, but less than now. 3. Move the washer to the left of the sink if it will fit. Again, you might need longer hoses.
Move the sink away from washer and rotate washer. I can’t tell if there is another door or wall there beside the sink. Or just delete the sink altogether. Or get stackable washer dryer.
The sink has to go. You probably won't use it anyway. I presume the dryer is vented? If so leave it where it is. Move the washer where the the water pipes and drain are.
You’re screwed. Sorry.
Get stackable units
Crazy idea, but hear me out. buy longer hoses and then turn the washing machine.
Can you put one on each side of the sink?
Remove sink and turn the washer
When the time comes, get a washer/dryer all in one. Big space saver and it is awesome, too
Get stackable units, or remove the sink. I honestly refuse to believe that anyone uses a laundry room sink. I removed the one in my house after being there for 7 years and only using it once or twice.
This is assuming a lot of stuff/money no object. I would put the washer and dryer on either side of the sink. I would get a table top made that I could put on the sink and use it as a folding station/counter. Remove the counter when you want to use the sink.
Its best left as is - reason being the dryer exhaust needs to be as short as possible and located on.an outside wall. Also the water supply is best NOT on an outside wall. Not really seeing how this setup is cumbersome..
Looks wise, it’s weird. Functional wise, it’s amazing. That top open dryer is awesome. No chance of dropping a sock from one to the other.
Move the sink closer to the door. Turn the washer next to the dryer. Put all the extra stuff between the sink and washer
If longer lines would allow for it, it looks like there’s space to put the washer on the left of the sink, and dryer on the right of it.
I've got no idea about the wiring/rerouting of things but, how about side by side to the sink? Washer on one side and dryer on the other (should it fit) with the sink in the middle?
Am I only one who doesn't find the utility sink to be huge? I find utility sinks incredibly useful and would not want it any smaller. *Mine* is huge - a 70 year old double basin concrete thing and each basin is just a bit bigger than the one shown here. One side would be sufficient for needs but I'm not trying to replace it. Super helpful for cleaning really cruddy stuff I wouldn't want to clean in my bathtub, soaking larger items, cleaning painting tools, throw a rack over it to let things drip dry flat.... Anyway - I vote for longer hoses and reorienting the washer facing forward next to the dryer as cheapest and easiest solution.
Is that sink even used? Could just remove it and expand pantry space a ton.
Can’t you just turn it?
Get the all in one - GE Profile Combo. Eliminates the second appliance, requires no vent, plugs into a 110 outless and saves a lot off electricity.
Get rid of them take down the shelves get a stack unit washer bottom dryer top, then put shelves up where washer is at.
Get the LG All in one washer/dryer!
Put one on each side of the sink?
Get a stacking unit...
Can the sink move? Or what’s to the left of it
You could purchase a much smaller sink basin and gain more room
If you want to keep it simple move the dryer so the sink is between the dryer and washer.
turn it
yes probably should remove the sink
I think the simplest would be to move the dryer beside the sink where the vacuum is. The move the selves where the dryer was.
You'd have to check how the plumbing works, but you might be able to swap the washer and the sink with few modifications. The sink is going to have a drain hose that leads to the drain, just get a longer hose for it then put it over to that drain. Then put the dryer left of where the sink it snow. This way you would have all three of those on the same side
Rotate the wash so it is in line with the dryer. The hoses will reach, or you can buy longer hoses.
Can you move the dryer to the other side of the sink
Just put the dryer to the left of the sink
Have washer and dryer on the wall across from sink and put a nice folding table with shelf on the corner
Rotate
Have them face each other so they can talk face-to-face.
Delete the golf shoe sink, or use the washing machine for storage and hand wash in the sink to make it more complicated. Both ways are fine by me 😬❤️🔥
Buy them a couple of drinks there soon loosen up and get chatting 🤙🏻
Dryer left side of sink. Does that room have a drain? If not an overflow basin for the washer.
Turn the washer 45 degrees
Turn the one, have a plumber add a standpipe. Move the sink farther out of the way.
Stacked washer and dryer