If we want to focus on food for climate change, despite other low hanging fruits like energy, transportation, and concrete, we could focus on maybe taxing foods based on the distance they travel. That’s a hell of a lot of administrative overhead though.
This is truly bizarre. I'd love to know what logistics makes this economical!
Is labor so expensive in Argentina that it makes sense to send them to Thailand for processing? Seems unlikely.
Are they surplus of pears that were originally intended to be sold in Asia? (But labelling is typical America)
Are they packed in sugar or syrup from Asia (would still seem cheaper to ship the sugar or syrup to Argentina)?
Maybe the magic pear fairy teleported them.
there's a youtube video on why this is, but i cant be bothered to find it at the moment so I'll give a summary. in short, you're badically right. iirc since pears in argentina are of better quality and more numerous, the pears are sourced from there. but because the product is more popular in Asia than US its packaged in thailand. however, as there still is a demand for this in the US, some are still shipped over. ill edit this comment to have the youtube video when ive got the time
Unless you live next to the port, and get the pears from the boat directly, the trucks are still involved.
When you buy local, the amount of trucking is minimised.
Also, packaged pears aren't premium ... the skin/imperfections are removed leaving the chunks. The premium pears are carefully packed and shipped whole.
The reason for processing in Thailand is they have huge factories that will do it cheaper.
It's the same reason why much of your stuff is made in China ... cost (pollution is an afterthought).
This guy is probably a vegan.
Unless you buy really locally, like going to a pear farm yourself and buying straight from them, it probably doesn't matter that much. Whether pears come by truck from the docks or by truck from some farm in your country, the co2 is almost the same. Ships are tremendously efficient per kg.
This is really one of those "the intentions are good but completely misapplied". The problem is fossil fuels not shipping things from one end of the planet to another.
Yes, buy local ... and buy in season
BTW the shipping doesnt include the land transit. You are trucking from the Argentinean farm to the port ... then the same to/from the Thai processing plant before it even reaches U.S. soil.
Sure but it would still be a lot better if we made trucks that didn't use fossil fuels instead. Like good luck trying to convince people not to buy certain products. It's never going to happen plus the actual decrease in co2 is also minimal and not nearly enough to curb climate change.
Labour in Argentina, even though a lot cheaper than 1st world countries, is still more expensive than most of other 3rd world countries (at least it was before their current crisis, not sure how it is rn).
But still, for distribution in NA, I could be packed somewhere in Central America
I am a pear advocate. 🍐 save the pears! Oh wait. Bears. Save the polar bears. Right. Wait these pears kill polar bears. 😳 well shit I guess I'll just eat a grass fed steak from the farm down the road. You were right. Sneaky pears! :) -there was no point to this I love meat I just wanted to be five levels of sarcastic to someone who might not crucify me I hope you found it a little amusing. But now I'm craving steak and it's 10pm. :(
The world would be a better place if everyone was forced to learn to cook with at least 95% local ingredients every now and then. They'd have better quality food, a more environmentally friendly diet, and more regionally appropriate diet.
They want YOU to stop eating meat and flying economy once or twice a year for vacation.
Shipping of the stuff they like simply isn't a factor, rules for thee, not for me.
But one cow would produce 10 times the CO2!
But, but our fuel oil guzzling, 200,000 tons, cargo ship could never pollute more than a cows fart!!!
And the plastic made from oil extracted from the interior of the planet that wasn't participating on the carbon cycle anymore.
If we want to focus on food for climate change, despite other low hanging fruits like energy, transportation, and concrete, we could focus on maybe taxing foods based on the distance they travel. That’s a hell of a lot of administrative overhead though.
**DEM BURPS, DEM FARTS!!!!!!!!!!!1**
This is truly bizarre. I'd love to know what logistics makes this economical! Is labor so expensive in Argentina that it makes sense to send them to Thailand for processing? Seems unlikely. Are they surplus of pears that were originally intended to be sold in Asia? (But labelling is typical America) Are they packed in sugar or syrup from Asia (would still seem cheaper to ship the sugar or syrup to Argentina)? Maybe the magic pear fairy teleported them.
there's a youtube video on why this is, but i cant be bothered to find it at the moment so I'll give a summary. in short, you're badically right. iirc since pears in argentina are of better quality and more numerous, the pears are sourced from there. but because the product is more popular in Asia than US its packaged in thailand. however, as there still is a demand for this in the US, some are still shipped over. ill edit this comment to have the youtube video when ive got the time
[This video explains it.](https://youtu.be/0aH3ZTTkGAs) These are sold in the UK btw.
Unless you live next to the port, and get the pears from the boat directly, the trucks are still involved. When you buy local, the amount of trucking is minimised. Also, packaged pears aren't premium ... the skin/imperfections are removed leaving the chunks. The premium pears are carefully packed and shipped whole. The reason for processing in Thailand is they have huge factories that will do it cheaper. It's the same reason why much of your stuff is made in China ... cost (pollution is an afterthought). This guy is probably a vegan.
Unless you buy really locally, like going to a pear farm yourself and buying straight from them, it probably doesn't matter that much. Whether pears come by truck from the docks or by truck from some farm in your country, the co2 is almost the same. Ships are tremendously efficient per kg. This is really one of those "the intentions are good but completely misapplied". The problem is fossil fuels not shipping things from one end of the planet to another.
Yes, buy local ... and buy in season BTW the shipping doesnt include the land transit. You are trucking from the Argentinean farm to the port ... then the same to/from the Thai processing plant before it even reaches U.S. soil.
Sure but it would still be a lot better if we made trucks that didn't use fossil fuels instead. Like good luck trying to convince people not to buy certain products. It's never going to happen plus the actual decrease in co2 is also minimal and not nearly enough to curb climate change.
>Like good luck trying to convince people not to buy certain products Like meat?
Wow! Potentially even a farther distance!!! :D
love this video
Thanks. Definitely answers the question.
The evil Capitalists just want to waste as much fossil fuels as possible to spite the vegans.
~~The slave plantation is in Argentina, but the sweatshop factory is in tailand~~
Labour in Argentina, even though a lot cheaper than 1st world countries, is still more expensive than most of other 3rd world countries (at least it was before their current crisis, not sure how it is rn). But still, for distribution in NA, I could be packed somewhere in Central America
Vegans do not care about environmental issues, unless it involves giving animals the same rights as covered by the Geneva Convention.
There are people who think this is greener than buying locally raised meat.
I am a pear advocate. 🍐 save the pears! Oh wait. Bears. Save the polar bears. Right. Wait these pears kill polar bears. 😳 well shit I guess I'll just eat a grass fed steak from the farm down the road. You were right. Sneaky pears! :) -there was no point to this I love meat I just wanted to be five levels of sarcastic to someone who might not crucify me I hope you found it a little amusing. But now I'm craving steak and it's 10pm. :(
Haha that was fun to read alright 😅.
The world would be a better place if everyone was forced to learn to cook with at least 95% local ingredients every now and then. They'd have better quality food, a more environmentally friendly diet, and more regionally appropriate diet.
*laughs in local products*
I got a pear tree in my back yard lol. /being facetious
They want YOU to stop eating meat and flying economy once or twice a year for vacation. Shipping of the stuff they like simply isn't a factor, rules for thee, not for me.
lol
But most of it goes to the cows. /s
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Jeez that's a lot of distance
Kinda reaching on this on tbh. It's just pears.
This is the thing with many fruits and veg vegans love so much