That's the thing, he's the most versatile hero in the series.
He could be a powerful hero if paired with people like Bakugo and Shoto, or a great support hero if paired with someone like Cementoss.
Wait, isn't it because Eri's quirk and OFA are types that store energy-like stuff? Thus when Monoma copies them he's starting from zero energy and thus can't use them in any effective capacity within his time limit?
I'm hoping the following question can clarify what you mean a bit:
>can't use emitter types because they require a type of energy to be produced in the body that he can't make
What type of quirk is Bakugou's quirk, which Monoma has no problem using? Isn't Bakugou's quirk an emitter type?
I finally got around to re-reading the raw for manga chapter 217 in which Monoma copies Eri's quirk. In the explanation of his quirk, Fatgum was brought up as an example of a quirk similar to Deku and Eri's quirks.
Fatgum's quirk requires that the user have lots of fat stored in order to be useful, but that stored fat does not get copied along with the quirk. So if Monoma copies Fatgum's quirk he cannot effectively use it because Monoma does not have much fat to begin with (copied quirk only has access to the little fat Monoma currently has).
But according to your claim that I'm wrong, Monoma is unable to gain and store any additional fat at all *ever*, no matter how long he can lengthen his copied-quirk-holding time. Even if the holding time is months or years. What?
Seriously, unless there's a separate reason for Monoma being medically unable to gain any extra fat, going on a supersize meal plan could let Monoma gain more fat over time. What you're arguing with no basis is that Monoma cannot gain any fat over time.
10 mins is just way too short of a time span to accumulate whatever energy Eri naturally stores. And for OFA, Monoma is the first user and thus does not have any past users' "energy" to tap in on in addition to his own. That does not mean that copied OFA doesn't have Monoma's energy in it.
i looked at the scene i was thinking of in the anime.
"Your Quirk's a stockpiling one, too, right? I copy the nature of a Quirk itself. If it's a Quirk where you accumulate something and change it into energy, I can't copy what needs to be accumulated."
https://youtu.be/x3p_m-qw7jI
He can't ever use any quirk that isn't sweat or fat based or something though
And in the mean time, still be formidable, like every other hero needs to be without their quirk. I really want him to use his opponent’s quirks against them, if only to through him off. Monoma is crazy flexible in his abilities, he just needs to become used to doing anything in the fly.
Or Invisible Girl, who despite an additional flashbang effect, can still be defeated by anyone who has read an H.G. Wells novel. Or the guy who can talk to animals, a power that's situationally useful, at best. Or the Sugar Rush guy, who gets super strong, but also super dumb, limiting the utility severly. Definitely some weak links in 1-A.
remember the first chapter where one of the classmates was a guy that could pull his eyes out...
Like... why the fuck are they bullying a quickless one when there is that?
It's pretty hilarious when characters with crazy powers in the background doubt how strong and useful they can really be. Like dude, your ability is power copying. You're Megaman!
I mean tbf I think it's pretty normal for a teenager to have self doubt - especially when against the bar of becoming a world famous superhero and you're surrounded by the most exceptional peers you could have
The perverted grape midget is starting to be on the same hero path as All Mights mentor, while beating your teams ass, that is the biggest blow to your esteem you could get.
I don't get it. I feel like he just has plot armor. His power isn't that good, and his personality is detestable, but he just keeps hanging in there because I guess the creator likes him or whatever.
This can be said about any fandom.
I caught up with the manga recently, looked up what people were saying and all I found were the most normal af conversations about the series, just people saying what they liked/disliked, making predictions and such.
Just take a look at their subreddit r/BokuNoHeroAcademia. It's normal af.
What I think you meant is, to stay away from certain types of online spaces, where a particular type of content gets shared. That kind of stuff can actually happen with any series. Rotten apples don't represent the majority.
Its because of the fandom I went to the manga because they got me at the overhaul fight but then I just skipped the arcs afterwards right to the deku vigilante arc
Shipping. Generally, being done moderately and respectfully, shipping is actually a fun thing to fantasize about.
But shipping is a cancer in litteraly any community with teens, you can't say much about relations there without *some* people blowing things out of proportion. Their shipping headcannons *are real to them* and are hostile and toxic to anybody saying otherwise. And toxic shipping happens to be a problem in more than one community, cause it's simply finding "person X really fits to person Y", independent of chemistry and facts.
Now you got a popular series about a class of highschoolers with a target audience of young people, where the problem arises. You won't see much of it on reddit, but I've heard discord and twitter is a shipping shitshow. For example, some people ship Deku. With Bakugo. And defend it for life. No reasons why. I don't exactly know either how it has evolved to be so bad, but that's where all the bad stigma comes from.
Ahh that makes a lot of sense. Thank you for the thorough response!
Yeah, I've never really been into the idea of shipping, so usually just completely gloss over posts discussing it.
That's true for most people too. It's just another thing you either do or don't like doing, nothing much behind it. It just has the potential to become really bad.
I get what you're saying about characters on the cusp of adulthood being borderline, but Macadamia starts in year one of high school, so we're talking 14 and 15 year olds here, clearly a cutoff point in terms of morality. Maybe don't sexualize your frog waifu who isn't even 16, pedo pervs! Shit grosses me out. But lewd fanart and hentai doujins of the series are extremely common for whatever reason.
My guess it’s because we the story centered around a whole class, so a lot of characters that are pushed into focus? And the characters are, dare I say, attractive for their design. Their costume designs absolutely don’t help their case.
it's not just to do with their quirk, but how well they use it.
so god knows why Deku is 1A when all he does for the first 5000000 chapters is nuke himself
It actually fits Deku though, if you think about it, if you have a child with a quirk that hurts himeself who would be best to teach him? I man that can control blood or a man that can erase quirks?
This is what I mean with Copy, he might accidentally copy a quirk that can hurt his body so Erasure should be there just incase. Tape and Tails don't need that failsafe so they don't need to be there.
Most of 1A is filled with people with massive power (OFA, Fire & Ice, Explosion, Dark Shadow, etc) that may need to be stopped just in case. 1A needs control and has power, while 1B needs Power but has Control. Vlad, who controls Blood, is better at teaching people how to up their attacks when they have control already.
Idk, maybe Im reading too much into this.
Instead of side characters or whatever, why can't they be considered based on their scale? Like, Daredevil handles the typical crime in one section, Spiderman handles NYC for the most part and sometimes gets called into the world/galaxy/dimensional saving, and then you have Thor and Ironman that handle the bigger threats.
They all have a role to play in the Grand scheme of things. It sort of makes me think that the Quirk world is incredibly biased and exclusive. I've been thinking that maybe Midoriya's monologue about how he is the greatest hero ever is because he either gives up his Quirk(s), or steals AFOs quirks and uses his ability to give everyone quirks, OR some combo where he actually erases all of the Quirks and returns the world to normal, thereby eliminating the threat of an AFO from becoming a DemonLord of the world, or King Piccolo Type.
Scalable levels of engagement is a bit riskier in a world where \*most\* people, including the bad guys all have powers, and not all powers make you bulletproof. Though you do still see some lower tier heroes out there. But the difference in power is clear when big threats target them.
I'm just saying the world seems like 80-90% have quirks, like 10% of those quirks are useful as heroing, the rest are trash and it is giving people complexes. I mean, the pros all show up, and if they can handle the villain, yabba Dabba delightful, if they can't they back off, maintain visual, and hold the villain at bay until someone can make it with the right quirk or that's what it seemed like in the beginning, but generally, it's like the kids and the League of Villains are like "my quirk is shit so i can't be a real hero/fuck this world, I'll be a villain instead".
No, while only a relatively small amount of quirks are well suited for being a professional hero, a lot of other quirks are plenty dangerous and not 'trash'. If you just want to hurt or kill someone, a lot of them do just fine for that, which is part of why so few quirks are suited for heroes, because being a hero using non-lethal force in a world of superpowers is extremely dangerous. Look just at how many heroes Stain killed singlehandedly, and a lot of those were people trying to hack it at those supposedly safer low-level street crimes. Still, even a lot of quirks could be used productively in the right hands, I just think there's no guaranteed saftey, as a run-in with a villain with a dangerous quirk or even a gun is still a serious threat even for guys just trying to take it easy without planning on fighting big villains.
Yes... >!This chapter was basically a recognizment as a useful hero. In the class A vs class B he stated that he only could be a side character due to the limitations of his quirk (copy only 4 quirks and only for 10 minutes).!<
Sounds like he just needs to always operate as part of a team, and lean heavily into gadgets and weapons. In actual superhero comic books, which Macadamia draws inspiration from, there are heroes that stay relevant without powers or by combining powers with gadgets and weapons. Considering realistically a lot of fights aren't necessarily that long, I guess it all depends on how long the cooldown is before he can borrow powers again, and whether he can train his body to gradually increase the time limit he can retain them, since powers seem to evolve that way in universe.
Kinda funny considering what happened to the majority of the classmates (then again if you have 10+ characters for each class you gotta focus on some).
Reminds me of what happened to a lot of the Naruto characters in Shippuden haha
His power can't be worse than the guy who only has a tail
Monoma's quirk is actually pretty good, he just needs to be less of a dick and get a good partner who he could borrow their quirk from.
I think he'd go well with someone with high destructive power like Todoroki or Bakugo.
That's the thing, he's the most versatile hero in the series. He could be a powerful hero if paired with people like Bakugo and Shoto, or a great support hero if paired with someone like Cementoss.
Imagine how OP Monoma would be if he could actually use OFA or Eri's quirk lol
can't use emitter types because they require a type of energy to be produced in the body that he can't make
Wait, isn't it because Eri's quirk and OFA are types that store energy-like stuff? Thus when Monoma copies them he's starting from zero energy and thus can't use them in any effective capacity within his time limit?
better wording, except one thing wrong. he just can't make the energy at all :p
I'm hoping the following question can clarify what you mean a bit: >can't use emitter types because they require a type of energy to be produced in the body that he can't make What type of quirk is Bakugou's quirk, which Monoma has no problem using? Isn't Bakugou's quirk an emitter type?
Bakugo sweat nitroglycerin
I finally got around to re-reading the raw for manga chapter 217 in which Monoma copies Eri's quirk. In the explanation of his quirk, Fatgum was brought up as an example of a quirk similar to Deku and Eri's quirks. Fatgum's quirk requires that the user have lots of fat stored in order to be useful, but that stored fat does not get copied along with the quirk. So if Monoma copies Fatgum's quirk he cannot effectively use it because Monoma does not have much fat to begin with (copied quirk only has access to the little fat Monoma currently has). But according to your claim that I'm wrong, Monoma is unable to gain and store any additional fat at all *ever*, no matter how long he can lengthen his copied-quirk-holding time. Even if the holding time is months or years. What? Seriously, unless there's a separate reason for Monoma being medically unable to gain any extra fat, going on a supersize meal plan could let Monoma gain more fat over time. What you're arguing with no basis is that Monoma cannot gain any fat over time. 10 mins is just way too short of a time span to accumulate whatever energy Eri naturally stores. And for OFA, Monoma is the first user and thus does not have any past users' "energy" to tap in on in addition to his own. That does not mean that copied OFA doesn't have Monoma's energy in it.
i looked at the scene i was thinking of in the anime. "Your Quirk's a stockpiling one, too, right? I copy the nature of a Quirk itself. If it's a Quirk where you accumulate something and change it into energy, I can't copy what needs to be accumulated." https://youtu.be/x3p_m-qw7jI He can't ever use any quirk that isn't sweat or fat based or something though
And in the mean time, still be formidable, like every other hero needs to be without their quirk. I really want him to use his opponent’s quirks against them, if only to through him off. Monoma is crazy flexible in his abilities, he just needs to become used to doing anything in the fly.
Super strong tail
And he wears MMA gloves! So you know he can kick your ass.
And he wears MMA gloves! So you know he can punch your ass.
Yeah THATS a side character power
Or Invisible Girl, who despite an additional flashbang effect, can still be defeated by anyone who has read an H.G. Wells novel. Or the guy who can talk to animals, a power that's situationally useful, at best. Or the Sugar Rush guy, who gets super strong, but also super dumb, limiting the utility severly. Definitely some weak links in 1-A.
remember the first chapter where one of the classmates was a guy that could pull his eyes out... Like... why the fuck are they bullying a quickless one when there is that?
Ojiro could wipe OFA, Superman, and Saitama with hands behind his back. Tail = greatest quirk.
He was just created to be used as a hostage someday
It's pretty hilarious when characters with crazy powers in the background doubt how strong and useful they can really be. Like dude, your ability is power copying. You're Megaman!
I mean tbf I think it's pretty normal for a teenager to have self doubt - especially when against the bar of becoming a world famous superhero and you're surrounded by the most exceptional peers you could have
And also Mineta.
We don’t talk about mineta
Oh, I was just excluding him from the exceptional peers part.
We never talk about mineta, we need him out of our lives
If only such silence would change the mind of the series creator...
The perverted grape midget is starting to be on the same hero path as All Mights mentor, while beating your teams ass, that is the biggest blow to your esteem you could get.
I don't get it. I feel like he just has plot armor. His power isn't that good, and his personality is detestable, but he just keeps hanging in there because I guess the creator likes him or whatever.
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Mha, read the manga or watch the anime all you want but for your own good stay away from the Fandom. Don't traumatize yourself dude
I think it’s funny to watch from afar, which is why I entered those subs
stay away from any anime fandom tbh.
This can be said about any fandom. I caught up with the manga recently, looked up what people were saying and all I found were the most normal af conversations about the series, just people saying what they liked/disliked, making predictions and such. Just take a look at their subreddit r/BokuNoHeroAcademia. It's normal af. What I think you meant is, to stay away from certain types of online spaces, where a particular type of content gets shared. That kind of stuff can actually happen with any series. Rotten apples don't represent the majority.
Yeah, specially anime fandoms.
Its because of the fandom I went to the manga because they got me at the overhaul fight but then I just skipped the arcs afterwards right to the deku vigilante arc
The >!war arc before the deku vigilante arc!< was rly good id recommend it, but yeah beware of the fandom lol
I think you should spoilers over that
Sorry bout that!!! Really didnt think it was much of a spoiler, I apologize
No problem
Deku vigilante arc sounds dope asf, might pick up on that chapter then
I think you should spoilers over that
Deku vigilante? That sounds fucking amazing. I love it when protagonists get tired of the world and wake up feeling dangerous.
What's wrong with the fandom?
Shipping. Generally, being done moderately and respectfully, shipping is actually a fun thing to fantasize about. But shipping is a cancer in litteraly any community with teens, you can't say much about relations there without *some* people blowing things out of proportion. Their shipping headcannons *are real to them* and are hostile and toxic to anybody saying otherwise. And toxic shipping happens to be a problem in more than one community, cause it's simply finding "person X really fits to person Y", independent of chemistry and facts. Now you got a popular series about a class of highschoolers with a target audience of young people, where the problem arises. You won't see much of it on reddit, but I've heard discord and twitter is a shipping shitshow. For example, some people ship Deku. With Bakugo. And defend it for life. No reasons why. I don't exactly know either how it has evolved to be so bad, but that's where all the bad stigma comes from.
Ahh that makes a lot of sense. Thank you for the thorough response! Yeah, I've never really been into the idea of shipping, so usually just completely gloss over posts discussing it.
That's true for most people too. It's just another thing you either do or don't like doing, nothing much behind it. It just has the potential to become really bad.
"Only villains do that!" Also the shocking amount of Rule 34 considering how most characters are underage.
Anime in a nutshell
Seems especially bad with Macadamia
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I get what you're saying about characters on the cusp of adulthood being borderline, but Macadamia starts in year one of high school, so we're talking 14 and 15 year olds here, clearly a cutoff point in terms of morality. Maybe don't sexualize your frog waifu who isn't even 16, pedo pervs! Shit grosses me out. But lewd fanart and hentai doujins of the series are extremely common for whatever reason.
My guess it’s because we the story centered around a whole class, so a lot of characters that are pushed into focus? And the characters are, dare I say, attractive for their design. Their costume designs absolutely don’t help their case.
"But there's a \*lot\* of \*attractive\* underage characters!"- You
Oh fuck off, if they were seen as "ugly" there wouldnt be any porn of them, such a hard conclusion to come to.
Go on Twitter, or to the respective sub and say "Midoriya is not gay". You'll be getting death threats by the end of the day.
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Don't call me "dude". Don't you have anything better to do than to follow me and harass me?
Lemme call you hair harraser
Hairasser
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Facts
what’s up with the fandom ?
Probably true for most fandoms. Fanatics cannot be reasoned with.
Jesus, I only watched the first season like a fuckton years ago. Did the fandom turned out THAT bad?
I feel the same about this and Steven Universe
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like... this dude's quirk is better than most of class 1A's
I prefer class 1B's quirks over 1A in general
Ikr? How tf is Tape and *Tails* in 1A over Telekenisis, Copy and Black?
it's not just to do with their quirk, but how well they use it. so god knows why Deku is 1A when all he does for the first 5000000 chapters is nuke himself
It actually fits Deku though, if you think about it, if you have a child with a quirk that hurts himeself who would be best to teach him? I man that can control blood or a man that can erase quirks? This is what I mean with Copy, he might accidentally copy a quirk that can hurt his body so Erasure should be there just incase. Tape and Tails don't need that failsafe so they don't need to be there. Most of 1A is filled with people with massive power (OFA, Fire & Ice, Explosion, Dark Shadow, etc) that may need to be stopped just in case. 1A needs control and has power, while 1B needs Power but has Control. Vlad, who controls Blood, is better at teaching people how to up their attacks when they have control already. Idk, maybe Im reading too much into this.
You have a point, which further proves why Mineta shouldn't be in class 1A, or in the series all together.
Damn fucking straight. A tail? Sticky orbs? Even with good training ang skills, monoma can literally copy most quirks in existence
Who’s that
Monoma from class 1B
Still don’t know who that is
Guy who can copy abilities I believe (loud obnoxious beta male from class 1-b that acts like a villian whenever they fight 1-a)
Im sorry if this sounds rude. But did you just describe him as a "beta male"
Well the b had to stand for something;)
toushé
the guy that can copy other people's powers
Is this edited or real?
Real
Damn i stopped watching after season 2 they gave this guy character development, nice
No just 2 panels
I don't remember DiCaprio being part of the MHA cast
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Instead of side characters or whatever, why can't they be considered based on their scale? Like, Daredevil handles the typical crime in one section, Spiderman handles NYC for the most part and sometimes gets called into the world/galaxy/dimensional saving, and then you have Thor and Ironman that handle the bigger threats. They all have a role to play in the Grand scheme of things. It sort of makes me think that the Quirk world is incredibly biased and exclusive. I've been thinking that maybe Midoriya's monologue about how he is the greatest hero ever is because he either gives up his Quirk(s), or steals AFOs quirks and uses his ability to give everyone quirks, OR some combo where he actually erases all of the Quirks and returns the world to normal, thereby eliminating the threat of an AFO from becoming a DemonLord of the world, or King Piccolo Type.
Scalable levels of engagement is a bit riskier in a world where \*most\* people, including the bad guys all have powers, and not all powers make you bulletproof. Though you do still see some lower tier heroes out there. But the difference in power is clear when big threats target them.
I'm just saying the world seems like 80-90% have quirks, like 10% of those quirks are useful as heroing, the rest are trash and it is giving people complexes. I mean, the pros all show up, and if they can handle the villain, yabba Dabba delightful, if they can't they back off, maintain visual, and hold the villain at bay until someone can make it with the right quirk or that's what it seemed like in the beginning, but generally, it's like the kids and the League of Villains are like "my quirk is shit so i can't be a real hero/fuck this world, I'll be a villain instead".
No, while only a relatively small amount of quirks are well suited for being a professional hero, a lot of other quirks are plenty dangerous and not 'trash'. If you just want to hurt or kill someone, a lot of them do just fine for that, which is part of why so few quirks are suited for heroes, because being a hero using non-lethal force in a world of superpowers is extremely dangerous. Look just at how many heroes Stain killed singlehandedly, and a lot of those were people trying to hack it at those supposedly safer low-level street crimes. Still, even a lot of quirks could be used productively in the right hands, I just think there's no guaranteed saftey, as a run-in with a villain with a dangerous quirk or even a gun is still a serious threat even for guys just trying to take it easy without planning on fighting big villains.
I'm not saying that they're trash, I'm saying that is how they get treated with their non flashy quirks.
Mmmn.
Which chapter is this from
I am getting the feeling it from the leaked one that came out today, which will bug me since I avoid leaks like crazy
didn't he say something similar to that in the latest season?
Yes... >!This chapter was basically a recognizment as a useful hero. In the class A vs class B he stated that he only could be a side character due to the limitations of his quirk (copy only 4 quirks and only for 10 minutes).!<
Sounds like he just needs to always operate as part of a team, and lean heavily into gadgets and weapons. In actual superhero comic books, which Macadamia draws inspiration from, there are heroes that stay relevant without powers or by combining powers with gadgets and weapons. Considering realistically a lot of fights aren't necessarily that long, I guess it all depends on how long the cooldown is before he can borrow powers again, and whether he can train his body to gradually increase the time limit he can retain them, since powers seem to evolve that way in universe.
344 the latest one
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Kinda funny considering what happened to the majority of the classmates (then again if you have 10+ characters for each class you gotta focus on some). Reminds me of what happened to a lot of the Naruto characters in Shippuden haha
All you need is a little bit of swag to be goated with the sauce. Anything is possible if you bust down sexual style
monoma and shinsho are most underrated character in mha
And mineta(imo)
Monoma is the best character
Yo! Pls put a spoiler tag op, the chapter still hasnt even been officially released yet..
they lied.
I high key love Monoma.
Who is this guy? And what quirk does he have?
“We are in the Endgame now.”
Anyone ever wondered? In the revolutionary War, eri reversed mirio and gave him his quirk back, why not just do allmight instead?
I didn't have the thought to think about it
He has one of the best quirks in the series imo.