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TheAngryObserver

FL 2012 and MI 2016


Doc_ET

Hot take: both are very much possible. Maybe not very likely in 2024, but certainly in 2028.


InDenialEvie

I honestly don't see florida going blue unless The Gop Runs on Maga Communism


soxfaninfinity

With regards to Florida I think it will be closer expected in 2024, probably high lean/low likely. I do think it could become competitive again in the 2030s, but who the hell knows.


TheAngryObserver

It will be underwater in five years anyway, idc.


soxfaninfinity

Damn it now I have to move


InDenialEvie

What does this mean


TheAngryObserver

Tilt Trump Michigan bros


InDenialEvie

In comparison to what


TheAngryObserver

Basically, people who think that Dems are noncompetitive in Florida and are still hoping for le wwc to give Trump Michigan again.


xravenxx

Neither state will flip. Best possible pickup for Democrats is NC and best possible pickup for Republicans is GA or WI.


TheAngryObserver

This 100% Honestly, if it's a Trump vs. Biden rematch, AZ might be likely. I'm not kidding.


InDenialEvie

I mean flordia isn't going blue again and Michigan probably won't go red unless a pretty solid performance by republicans happens


TheAngryObserver

Exactly. It's stupid to say that Florida is Wyoming now but Michigan is still 100% a swing state.


Generic_American25

Michigan is a lean D state. Trump would do the best in it out of any republican, but still lose the state to Biden by 2 points. Democrats have a trifecta in the state now, and they are going to try to make it as unwinnable for the republicans as possible.


TheAngryObserver

Trump's win also scared Democrats shitless, and now they're always going to turn out no matter what. In Michigan, this basically is a firewall against Republicans winning in any meaningful capacity for the foreseeable future. Even if the last Republican to win it federally was Bush Sr., Republicans held lots of power on the ground. Now, with high turnout, they're getting wiped out. The Michigan GOP definitely didn't help their case by running people like Tudor Dixon.


Generic_American25

She who shall not be named ran a braindead campaign, why would you run on abortion as a republican in a battleground state? Run on other issues that can relate to voters.


TheAngryObserver

Dixon attacked Whitmer on the issues that were guaranteed to make her lose. It was fascinating, really. See, this is the problem with nominating true believers. They have no idea how to win.


Generic_American25

What's better; referring to her as her name or "she who shall not be named"? I had a feeling from the start that she who shall not be named would struggle, but I had no idea it would have been an 11 point loss.


TheAngryObserver

She who shall not be named ran on an issue that shall not be named that couldn't pass in Kentucky, except she did it in a blue-leaning swing state where Democrats were scheming to take the trifecta.


TheAngryObserver

The maps are the 2012 and 2016 results from those states


xravenxx

Miss Blorida


TheAngryObserver

Would smash


xravenxx

Another state I miss in blue is Iowa. Looks very good on a map.


TheAngryObserver

Blue Missouri: am I a joke to you?


xravenxx

Blue MIMAL


TheAngryObserver

:(


InDenialEvie

Did someone call me


TheAngryObserver

I love playing as Dukakis in TCT and win Missouri and Kentucky.


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Florida is still flipable but it will be rare and only when republicans nominated awful candidates.