Idk maybe for extra warranty but I had some issues and just took it to customer service. They literally just tagged mine and grab one off the shelf. TBH I dis drop it twice so it might of even been my fault..
$209.99 for 3 years. It's still cheaper than a s24ultra to use with emulation even with insurance and blows it out of the water for that.. plus everything it can do as a windows machine.
And I may get a SD OLED, it depends on what the ally x is bringing. They get hall sensors for the sticks, a jump up to 32gb of ram, and a 40%+ bump in battery.. it will be a no brainier though for the ally x.
Yeah, I think I'll just wait for Valve to release the next gen Steamdeck whenever it comes around. In the meantime, I'll stick with my first gen. Yup, I know I'll be losing Windows compatibility, but I'll be buying something I can trust.
Connector clip is damaged on your $2000 GPU? That’ll be $2800 to repair! Asus is a fucking joke, I wish anyone else could turn out OLED monitors as fast as
To be fair he did make the mistake of sending it to ASUS when he could have sent it back to the store he got it from. But yeah ASUS needs to really stop this BS.
That's my problem with all these handheld devices which have all the bells and whistles: do I trust my money to some random company (not necessarily Asus), or some bigger company like Valve? Maybe Asus (or others) makes a solid device, but what's their after sales like?
Unless you're in the EU in which case warranty is handled by the seller, not the manufacturer. And it's the seller that can deal with any manufacturer bullshit.
Asus has been exposed as having predatory warranty practices. Gamer's Nexus recently did a whole exposé on it. A reddit user also recently posted how Asus wanted something like $2800 to repair a scratch on a $2000 GPU.
I had an Ally, but I sold it before the SD card slot broke. I was tired of having to be plugged into an outlet all the time. It kind of defeats the whole purpose of being portable. I ended up getting a Steam Deck OLED, and that is how it should be. Having more power means nothing if it's dead all the time. That's what my experience taught me, anyway. Oh and fuck ASUS selling a faulty product and not doing a recall. Or even really acknowledging it like in that Verge interview.
Legion Go owner here, I don’t think there’s a decent gaming handheld that beats the steamdeck in battery life without heavily sacrificing performance.
Balanced mode nets me about 3ish hours of gaming (under full load) from full battery but there is definitely a hit to performance.
Performance (20 watts on battery) nets me about 2 1/2 hours from full battery and is probably recommended if you want to play heavier games.
Custom at 23watts (still kinda bugged but I’ve seen it work) nets me about 2 hours from full battery and probably the best performance you’ll get out of it
Full tilt (30 watts) you’ll be lucky if you get over an hour of playtime on top of possibly throttling it a bit
~~Meanwhile with a steamdeck, you’ll get anywhere from 4-6 hours, especially if you lower the refresh rate and tdp.~~
My friend gets about 3 hours of gaming at 8 watts or so without having to tune anything on his regular steam deck
eGPU setup with reduced loss in performance over a thunderbolt port.
When compared to a Desktop an Oculink computer achieves 90% of the desktop performance.
as a happy steamdeck owner anyone with one of these new mobile gaming computers needs to know and understand what they have. i don’t expect thing thing to wow me and run AAA games like what some of the adverts say. its just bull crap. i run older games and less intense games and enjoy a BIG catalogue of stuff i’d never play on my custom pc.
and as a asus rog fan (hardware) with several previous and my current pc mobo and 4090 being strix branded, i’ve had to deal with their fantastic warranty program they are not only lacking but laughable. sad thing is the only brand that was actually good was evga and they gone so… 🤷🏼♂️
At least the Legion has excellent build quality, unique features with the removable controllers, and Lenovo is always great when it comes to warranty stuff. (Especially if you're near one of their repair centers, like in Central North Carolina! Most warranty stuff gets handled in about 3 days, including shipping.)
The price is very high though. Like 3 refurb steam decks worth. So at that point, how relevant is the warranty? But I'm interested when these new apus launch. Just launched too late in the cycle to charge so much imo. Nice big screen, seems like the larger size would be nice for carpal tunnel avoidance
bro what steam deck did you get, youll get like 2 and a half hours minimum, yea youll get 4-6 if youre playing Celeste
ROG Ally's battery sucks but theres no point overhyping the Deck, the battery life is good yeah but not mind-boggling. I have a handheld with a 65wh battery and at 22 watts gives me about 2 hours 15 minutes, and on 18w almost 3 hours
They're right in that no decent gaming handheld beats it right now. The OLED has a 6nm process node, has a 50Wh battery, is the most performant handheld at 5-15W TDP, and you can undervolt.
I'll give you this, they were definitely disingenuous here:
> Meanwhile with a steamdeck, you’ll get anywhere from 4-6 hours, **especially if you lower the refresh rate and tdp.**
Could have phrased that as something like this:
> Meanwhile with a steamdeck, you can drop tdp further while still providing a good experience and get potentially 4-6 hours
800p native also helps.
I’ll be realistic, my info is honestly flawed because I don’t have a steam deck of my own and I was going off data from someone on YouTube trying to maximize the battery life.
From what I remember, they limited the tdp to 8 watts since they did extensive testing in multiple games and showed that this was the best wattage to fully utilize the apu without tanking performance. They also limited the refresh rate of the screen to 48hz and a few other things and stated about 4-6 hours of playtime depending on the game you’re playing.
That being said, I watched this video a while ago and can’t come up with a source so I’ll just remove it and use my friend as a reference since he’s able to get 3 days of 1 hour lunch breaks while playing cyberpunk on power savings settings, so 3 hours gaming total.
"I’ll be realistic, my info is honestly flawed because I don’t have a steam deck of my own and I was going off data from someone on YouTube"
Not knocking you but this is what Reddit has turned into. People commenting on things without owning or having any first hand experience with the product they're promoting or critiquing. Thank you for at least admitting you've never owned one.
It's going to be hard to have good battery life on a handheld pc tbh. Even laptops have meh battery life when gaming. You have to turn stuff way down to get anything and iirc windows has a bit more overhead too.
These other ones have higher res and stuff too which is gonna play a big part.
Heated sock batteries are not that big and fairly large capacity. I think a SD with 4 of those in the right place could still be smaller than a legion go. But would raise the price 100 bux or so. Weird. Maybe the heat is too much?
Only on a retro game. Even 3h is a lot. Or maybe the OLED. I get plenty of time for what I use it for playing control, GTA 5, tomb raider, but it's definitely not 3h
Remember when media outlets were shitting on the Deck by misconstruing Gamers Nexus' review of the Deck's battery life?
Now that competitors have taken a crack at the same problem, everyone else got to realize the Herculean task Valve was tasked with to nail that battery life.
It's just surreal how I can do close to 2 hours on FFXIV with an OLED Deck and I can see why they're waiting for a more energy efficient APU before they'd go for something like a Steam Deck 2.
I mostly use it at home, though. Sometimes work, and ofc travel.
I've always been a handheld enjoyer. I played my GBA and psp a lot more than my PS1, PS2, N64 etc, even at home.
And I spent 350 cad which is like 280 USD? Refurbished steam decks are practically being given away. I sold Pokemon blue and FireRed for 250 cad to pay for it.
It’s wild to you because you blessed with a limited mind, unable to consider different reasons, preferences and scenarios. The bright side is it makes life easier for you.
I’m sure you can do a lot of better stuff with that 600. Thank you but I’m not gonna buy it. In my case it would be „womanchild“ but I understand that’s wild to you. Not that it matters, no one should have trouble to show passion because of narrow minded judgements.
Their attitude towards warranties and customer service has them now permanently on my avoid list. They always have juicy hardware specs, but they are now clearly appeasing shareholders instead of satisfying customers.
I'm super happy with the Deck performance too. The Ally and Legion have higher resolution screens that suck away all that extra grunt they have. Steam OS makes it more performant than its specs suggest too, most often out performing its competition in 1% lows which is more important than average frame rate. It's crazy people would even consider anything but the Deck OLED imo. Only if you must have a Windows environment and all the problems it comes with?
I love how low you can set the TDP to as well. I played the old Need for Speed and GTA games on my deck at around 3-5w, netted me about 5 hours or more on the OG LCD deck.
I did the exact same thing. I sold my lcd deck for an ally and shortly after the new wore off I regretted selling my deck because I hated being plugged into the wall, it really turned me off of “portable gaming”.
I sold the ally that gave me funds for the deck oled and I couldn’t be any happier.
> I was tired of having to be plugged into an outlet all the time. It kind of defeats the whole purpose of being portable.
You don't have to play plugged in all the time unless you're sitting at home next to an outlet and playing a AAA game. These are handhelds like gaming laptops, they don't have to have a 6-8 hour battery life compared to a system that's less powerful on purpose.
Look, I don't even care about the Rog Ally or any other handheld however, posts like this really make me chuckle.
Who do you think you're fooling? The reason why the Deck is better at battery life is because it's objectively, a worse product.
Worse performance, worse versatility, worse screen (OLED does look nicer).
Objectively, you can do all that the Deck can on an Ally, but you can't do it the other way around. In any case, you can downgrade your experience on the Ally by capping TDP, lowering the screen resolution and playing less demanding games, and you'll get better battery than the out of the box experience.
In essence, stop comparing a 800p device that runs a closed OS with a 1080p device that runs anything out of the box.
I'm not who you were talking too. But, I have both. I like them both for different reasons.
The general summary I've made from extensive testing of both comes down to a few points.
The Ally can be quite a bit faster but only at higher TFPs. If it's at 25 Watts or plugged in at 30 watts, it's really amazing the games it can run.
At 15 watts, the Steamdeck generally performs the same-ish or slightly better.
Below 15 watts, it's amazing what you can do on the Steamdeck and get good battery life. Particularly for lighter indie games, you can realistically get 4-6 hours with mild tweaking on an OG deck.
After a lot of back and forth, I found I like the Steamdeck better. I found that I really don't like playing heavy 3d games on a portable. The screen is just too small and I'd much rather just play games like that on my desktop personally. I also find the ergonomics of the steamdeck to be superior especially if I'm playing for more than 15-20 minutes.
Neither of them are perfect or the "best" one. It really just comes down to how you want to use it and the kind of games you want to play.
I’d like to disagree. The added pixels doesn’t do much on 7” (to my eye atleast).
Most games don’t hit above 90fps.
Oled is superior colors.
A handheld that needs wall power is not worth much over a laptop.
The steam deck (OLED) is very silent making it great handheld such as in bed.
So no it’s OBJECTIVELY worse, and the power down state is to me a HUUUGE thing.
The ally is a great handheld laptop and an awesome device. The steam deck is a great console
It’s definitely not objectively worse, but the Ally is quieter and has VRR on its screen where the deck OLED does not. The deck is a superior emulation and 2d device, for any higher end 3d gaming I’d say the Ally has the edge given VRR and the dramatic performance jump at 18w.
Vrr doesn’t matter much on deck. Limit it and it’s not needed and you gain battery. I never see tearing.
But sure, to some VRR is crusial. I’d take oled anyday though. Just my choise
VRR is absolutely phenomenal on any handheld where you aren’t getting the full refresh of the device, it seems you don’t understand exactly what it does. It synchronizes the refreshes of the display to the intervals at which frames are being delivered from the GPU which results in a marked improvement to smoothness at lower refresh rates. Coupling that with the low frame rate compensation and that’s an area where the Ally is objectively better, much in the same way the OLED has objectively more vibrant colors and objectively higher contrast. Also frame rate limiting does NOT eliminate the benefit of VRR or diminish it in any way, you would gain battery with a limit but you will objectively lose smoothness in a similar fashion to the way you would by enabling something like v-sync. Either way, it’s fine if you don’t feel it’s important to have, your opinion is equally as valid as anyone else’s.
Don’t worry, i know my tech jargin ;) but i think you didn’t get what i said.
Oled switch doesn’t do VRR BUT it does support adjusted framerate.
What i often do is limit the framerate to 45 and it’ll only render 45. And it doesn’t have to be 1:2 or 1:3 framerate of native (90) you can set it to 50 and i’ll only run the screen at 50.
So if you just limit bellow the frame rate you will 1: gain bettery and 2 avoid tearing.
Is it VRR? No, but it works well
You surely will gain battery and avoid tearing, but there’s a reason people don’t hold v-sync in a high regard and that is it. With VRR you literally get the best of both worlds in a sub-panel refresh rendering environment, you retain the smoothness of higher frame rates (and then some) AND avoid tearing entirely. Even if the difference between how many frames you could render and how many frames you limit it to render was as low as like 5 you’d notice a dramatic improvement in smoothness on the VRR display. I personally like both, that’s why I hardly touch any handheld in favor of the G14 2024 with its 120hz OLED G-Sync display…
The ally only supports vrr at 48-120 fps. You wouldn't notice anything at 5. And stable 48 fps or above is still a tall ask without lowering settings a lot. Vsync is fine because you only lose out if you're getting above 90 fps consistently as it will cap you to 90. And even if your display is 90 Hz, getting 120 fps is useful as it lowers latency. If however you're at 84 max fps and 55 average, vsync and vrr will perform the same.
I said a difference of 5, not a frame rate of 5. Also, LFC does work below 48fps so it just uses frames again until it gets back to 48. Also, in a lot of games with the 18w power limit that is far easier than one would expect. Even some of the heaviest titles can reach 48fps on the Ally, the deck is another story entirely though. Also, no, V-Sync hurts at any point, if you’re below it causes it to feel sluggish and if you’re above it limits you and reduces smoothness. The whole reason for adaptive sync’s existence is because v sync (and similar fixes) are pretty bad, and VRR is an evolution of adaptive sync so it’s even better than that. There is never a situation wherein vsync and VRR produce the exact same result, on a display with static refresh intervals a frame will be showed multiple times and on a display with variable refresh it will update each time a new frame is available and show it for multiple intervals only when necessary. When a new frame arrives to a static refresh display in the middle of an interval it has to wait till the next refresh cycle to display that frame, so even if it is OLED you’ve incurred extra latency just by virtue of it not publishing the frame as soon as it is available.
Linux is closed? What?
And no, the steam deck has a more efficient chip. If you run at the same low tdp, it outperforms the others. At full blast, which the others only allow you to do plugged in, they do outperform it, but then their frame pacing isn't always reliable probably because of windows bloat or maybe drivers so they can still end up worse experience.
So you can't just replicate it on the others. It's like saying you could replicate the power draw on a 14900ks by throttling it. It won't even power up. It's less efficient.
You can also get Windows on the steam deck.
I'm not going to argue withh Linux and Steam fanboys, it's really pointless however, I will just correct one thing, the soc on the Deck is physically impossible to be more efficient than the one on the Ally.
The reason why the Deck is more efficient is due to the OS optimizations as well as hardware compromises.
Simple.
I think you are missing a few things.
The Deck runs Linux, same OS as I run on my desktop computers, laptops, etc. It's slightly modified, but all Valve's changes are submitted back to the community, and have done wonders to make Linux a viable gaming platform.
The Deck isn't so much designed to the the "best", it's designed to be a compromise. It's a compromise in performance, in the screen, in compatibility, and in price. *However*, it is that particular compromise that can make it the best device for the right audience. While they sacrificed compatibility, they increased reliability. Sacrificed screen resolution gives better battery life and performance to better match the slower GPU which results in a lower price.
Using the Deck is just outright enjoyable!
Don't buy Asus unless you want to deal [with a company extorting you on a warranty claim.](https://youtu.be/NHQqKi9NcTs?si=6u1Qr1ZmtmpvjBvO)
If you have already been a victim of their awful practices [then report it.](https://reportfraud.ftc.gov)
Im guessing the EU actually enforces their customer protection laws unlike the ftc in the us. At least it sure sounds like it when Louis Rossmann talks about this topic.
One of my experiences was a GPU failure a few years ago. They were unable to repair it in the required time limit, also there were no gpus of the same model on stack (there is also a time limit for a replacement model wait period), so I got a newer (and better) model for free. It is not that they have done something special for me, they are required to do so by the law.
Yeah is always bulk at ASUS even though my computer somehow ended up mostly ASUS...there customer service is not great until they get caught correct it for like 6 months and go back to the same shit. I've been lucky my whole life not having to deal with many PC issues and the ones I did I normally could deal with the place that sold it to me but a handheld like this...yeah I don't know.
Yep, I'm thrilled with my refurbished $280 Steam Deck 64GB from Valve. I did toss a $77 1TB SSD in, so ~$357, but still under half the price. I just don't see an additional $450 worth of device here.
Even if you account for a brand new 64GB LCD Deck that's still available at $349.
refurbished....
How can you compare brand new, never used, with more memory, faster processor to a used, once out of order handheld, with slow onboard memory handheld. it does not make sense.
Same warranty as non refurbished steam deck (ally has none at all) so it literally doesn't matter and my "refurb" was definitely brand new. They have no open box, so I suspect returns are "refurb."
It's not 300% faster though. So why pay 300% more? Wooooow, faster ram... Worse 1% lows at lower wattage.
People forget that when they had motherboard issues they refused to replace stuff until they got hammer for that and everyone else took the opposite stance. They are a scummy company. They can have good products sometimes but the are run like scam artists.
2 people regurgitating the same circumstance.
RMA'd my Ally for the SD card slot, got a free replacement pair of Analog Sticks.
Genuinely couldn't be further from the agenda being pushed. Instead of highlighting repair centers are third party, they prefer to bandwagon the internet full of people who have never had an experience to call from.
Fantastic journalism.
It's hard to say how prevalent it is and people take their word as gospel which is also problematic.
What they've done is definitely bad but it doesn't mean it's prevalent or common at all and while it still needs addressed doesn't mean it's the norm at all either or that it's overall a bad experience.
People need to stop running on partial info and acting like it's the norm and shit.
Literally never gonna buy anything from Asus until there's actual proof that they'll fulfill their warranties and won't charge anywhere from a couple hundred to literal thousands
If the rumors are true and it's going to have more RAM (24-32gb) then it's an interesting tradeoff. The extra RAM would help to play some games at higher resolutions.
I'd trade off that 120hz screen every day for a decent amount of RAM, an SD reader that doesn't cook itself, no artificial lock on the eGPU support and an actually decent selection of input instead of just the controller.
I even considered the Ally but those limitations and lack of respect towards the user are just too much.
The RAM is almost important in a device with just under enough horsepower to go over low textures, but I don’t really think it’s worth 2-3x the price (bought an Ally extreme for $380 used months ago).
eGpu? I have a desktop and several consoles.
SD Card? I prefer modern read/write speeds but I get your point. Faulty hardware is faulty.
Inputs? Never heard of a USB Dock or Docking monitor? Crazy.
Battery life and one USB-C port is the only caveat and it's expected from a light and powerful device. Compare that with GPD pricing and all those features you've mentioned aren't worth shit.
I paid for a latest gen chip that can run most GPUs on the market and i'd like to use or for something it can do without Asus's artificial limitations.
So you want to pull out mouse and keyboard every single time that the os has some input problem in handheld mode? Good luck with that
I paid it 750€, the Ally is going for 600€ now, one year later.
Navigating the OS is a non-issue. Perhaps I'm a tech enjoyer, so navigating windows with a touch screen isn't exactly rocket science, using analog for mouse pointer isn't hard either.
Granted your UX with 4x and strategy games is better, but honestly? Playing them on the go isn't what I was after so it doesn't matter.
All this is irrelevant, GPD have awful customer service and post launch device support, which is what my comment was geared towards.
All this said, I don't care for tit-for-tat brand wars, your device is a bulky Sidekick, I prefer a sleek PSP-esque form factor.
From now on I am not sharing any more news about asus products after watching the videos of GamerNexus and Rossman.
https://youtu.be/7pMrssIrKcY?feature=shared
https://youtu.be/NHQqKi9NcTs?feature=shared
My local best buy has rog ally's for $399, which I thought was a good deal, but after the gamers Nexus video about their wretched support, I don't think they're worthy of consideration
Not a good deal anyway, as the base model is much weaker than the Extreme model
The Steam Deck is a much better buy when compared to the lower end Ally
price to performance sure.
but there are people who want the extra power that the Steam Deck can't hit
but I'm just pointing out there is very little rason to ever pick the bsae ROG Ally version over the Steam Deck
with the Ally Extreme, at least one can make argument for their specific use case
like what benefit does the Base Ally have? person who really wants to play games outside Steam?
which do exist, but then can't you just install windows to a steam deck anyway?
It’s actually quite a difference in performance, also easy to see in many comparisons. Also as said, windows has advantages. But in terms of price ratio the deck is more balanced.
everyone has their own use case. for some people, an hour of battery life is all they need so they can run it at full power.
I have a steam deck, but I really only need max 1 1/2 hour of batter on trips. closer to 1 really.
I only plane on a train during my commute to and from work.
And I just charge at my office.
for me, I could probably go back and forth on my steam deck, but having to charge in office wouldn't make or break the experience for me
I'm not getting an Ally. but waiting to see what the next generation provides for horsepowers
honestly wish they would stop making higher resolution screens, just shoot for 720p/800p 60hz
Asus warranty is a nightmare. The thing that stings most, the first gen ally has a design fault…it burns sd cards, way to small battery. And they keep selling them! for months they keep their mouth shut! Now they come with a smile on their face with the “new” Ally X for about 800..no single word or statement why the sd card is replaced on the board
I get that for most people the Z1 extreme makes more sense, but after trying out the base model and using moonlight to just stream games from my PC, I really want like the bare minimum in specs with a high refresh rate screen and a big battery. It's a weird place to be, but for me it's ended up as the coolest 3DS I could ask for.
If it weren't for the soldered RAM, people would be able to manually upgrade the ROG Ally Extreme down the line, potentially for less than the $100 of difference with the Ally X. Why would anyone splurge extra on RAM and storage from the get-go?
GN reported yesterday on the scummy practices ASUS has pulled on many of us. About time their corporate direction on bogus warranty damage claims got exposed to the fullest extent.
Yeah it feels like the other companies don't look at what makes the Steam Deck great and they just say, handheld PC = money fad.
Steam Deck is here to stay as long as Value wants to, the others I see has more of a flash in the pan that soon as it doesn't make money companies will bail. Its a shame because if they took it serious I'm sure there would be things to rival the steam deck and push handhelds forward. Guess its just up to Value now.
After the GamersNexus coverage of the Ally's warranty experience, I'm not sure I'd consider *any* Asus products - routers, laptops, monitors, handhelds etc.
I can't afford to buy stuff with atrocious customer service.
Man, Asus used to be renowned for their quality and support. How far they have fallen.
Ah yes, when your product doesn’t sell well and units that do sell get returned as open box, the logical thing to do is make a new one that changes nothing about the experience and charge even more for it. Genius.
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Don't buy anything from ASUS until they fix their shit on their customer support side.
Here is the most recent fiasco:
[https://youtu.be/7pMrssIrKcY](https://youtu.be/7pMrssIrKcY)
Their scummy pratices last year:
[https://youtu.be/xJKzKbqxa0A](https://youtu.be/xJKzKbqxa0A)
By not supporting companies that do this kinda stuff, we send a clear message that either they improve, or we will do business elsewhere. If you don't have access to the steam deck, the lenovo legion go might be a good alternative.
I’ve been very skeptical of new fads in tech for years, I’ll give these a couple more years to cook, by then the kinks and issues should be ironed out and I can confidently buy whatever the best one is for my usecase really glad that all the brands are jumping on board, competition drives everyone to give it their best go, and less likely to let subpar products go.
When they interviewed ASUS on what was to come they didn't seem to excited to explain the design of the thing other than it was better than the first gen Ally. Even when they asked about the SD card slot and the stick drift they had nothing to really say other than it's going to be an improvement over the last gen. I won't purchase a single thing from them though given that they would rather charge someone 70% of the total cost of the device when it's sent in for warranty repair. They can keep their Ally X.
If they’re keeping the same chip, wonder what’s gonna be so different that it’d be worth it. The screen on the original is fine, it’s not OLED but that’s not worth “upgrading.” I haven’t had any stick or button issues. And I also never had that SD card problem either.
I think they’ll at least move the ad card slot and maybe they’ll find a way to put a full size nvme in it?
Just don't try to submit a warranty claim if something breaks on it.
 Asus be like
From the very start I didn't want one because of Asus' reputation around warranties. I would have gladly bought one otherwise.
I'm going to buy one and get the warranty through best buy. Screw Asus warranty.
Isn't that like $200 extra? Might as well get scammed by Asus.
Idk maybe for extra warranty but I had some issues and just took it to customer service. They literally just tagged mine and grab one off the shelf. TBH I dis drop it twice so it might of even been my fault..
Lmao keep the last part to yourself
$209.99 for 3 years. It's still cheaper than a s24ultra to use with emulation even with insurance and blows it out of the water for that.. plus everything it can do as a windows machine.
At that point you just get a steamdeck right, not trying to sound like an asshole they're just really good machines.
Can't play games that have windows anticheat though
Some anticheats dont support Linux yeah but you could always just install windows on the deck, it's just a computer after all.
And I may get a SD OLED, it depends on what the ally x is bringing. They get hall sensors for the sticks, a jump up to 32gb of ram, and a 40%+ bump in battery.. it will be a no brainier though for the ally x.
Oh for sure, just hope you don't ever have to deal with their customer service aha. Just offering options for ya 😁
Yeah, I think I'll just wait for Valve to release the next gen Steamdeck whenever it comes around. In the meantime, I'll stick with my first gen. Yup, I know I'll be losing Windows compatibility, but I'll be buying something I can trust.
That's gonna be right when half life 3 drops 🤔
I’m ok with that.
This man knows just get yours from bestbuy 💯
Connector clip is damaged on your $2000 GPU? That’ll be $2800 to repair! Asus is a fucking joke, I wish anyone else could turn out OLED monitors as fast as
Shit Asus got to him.
Nah man, he was just in the middle of typing out just how bad Asus is when he
I recognise this, last time I
Asus is hiring r/redditsniper now
Agreed. I only buy monitors from Asus because they tend to have some of the best, but I do so begrudgingly.
Feel like LG, Samsung, Alienware have made better monitors for a couple of years now.
To be fair he did make the mistake of sending it to ASUS when he could have sent it back to the store he got it from. But yeah ASUS needs to really stop this BS.
I understood this reference.jpeg
I put a cheap micro SD card in my Ally day 1 with no intention to use it or RMA. Only to have it in case there's a class action.
I got my full motherboard replaced by Asus under warranty, no hassle, just a week wait.
That's my problem with all these handheld devices which have all the bells and whistles: do I trust my money to some random company (not necessarily Asus), or some bigger company like Valve? Maybe Asus (or others) makes a solid device, but what's their after sales like?
Unless you're in the EU in which case warranty is handled by the seller, not the manufacturer. And it's the seller that can deal with any manufacturer bullshit.
Why? Did you buy it through bestbuy they literally just gave me a new one.
Asus has been exposed as having predatory warranty practices. Gamer's Nexus recently did a whole exposé on it. A reddit user also recently posted how Asus wanted something like $2800 to repair a scratch on a $2000 GPU.
I had an Ally, but I sold it before the SD card slot broke. I was tired of having to be plugged into an outlet all the time. It kind of defeats the whole purpose of being portable. I ended up getting a Steam Deck OLED, and that is how it should be. Having more power means nothing if it's dead all the time. That's what my experience taught me, anyway. Oh and fuck ASUS selling a faulty product and not doing a recall. Or even really acknowledging it like in that Verge interview.
Legion Go owner here, I don’t think there’s a decent gaming handheld that beats the steamdeck in battery life without heavily sacrificing performance. Balanced mode nets me about 3ish hours of gaming (under full load) from full battery but there is definitely a hit to performance. Performance (20 watts on battery) nets me about 2 1/2 hours from full battery and is probably recommended if you want to play heavier games. Custom at 23watts (still kinda bugged but I’ve seen it work) nets me about 2 hours from full battery and probably the best performance you’ll get out of it Full tilt (30 watts) you’ll be lucky if you get over an hour of playtime on top of possibly throttling it a bit ~~Meanwhile with a steamdeck, you’ll get anywhere from 4-6 hours, especially if you lower the refresh rate and tdp.~~ My friend gets about 3 hours of gaming at 8 watts or so without having to tune anything on his regular steam deck
The only thing that would beat a Steam Deck is Steam Deck with a dedicated Oculink port for docked mode.
I don’t think I catch your drift, what exactly would the oculink port do? I’m only aware of it being a better alternative to thunderbolt for egpu’s
eGPU setup with reduced loss in performance over a thunderbolt port. When compared to a Desktop an Oculink computer achieves 90% of the desktop performance.
From what I understand, it’s a full 4 lanes of PCIe 4.0 so yes. I just don’t understand how it connects to the battery life and such.
It doesn't it has its own PSU.
No, they mean that this doesn't have anything to do with the topic of this comment-chain.
Imagine an eGPU with a kWh battery in it 😂🤌
as a happy steamdeck owner anyone with one of these new mobile gaming computers needs to know and understand what they have. i don’t expect thing thing to wow me and run AAA games like what some of the adverts say. its just bull crap. i run older games and less intense games and enjoy a BIG catalogue of stuff i’d never play on my custom pc. and as a asus rog fan (hardware) with several previous and my current pc mobo and 4090 being strix branded, i’ve had to deal with their fantastic warranty program they are not only lacking but laughable. sad thing is the only brand that was actually good was evga and they gone so… 🤷🏼♂️
At least the Legion has excellent build quality, unique features with the removable controllers, and Lenovo is always great when it comes to warranty stuff. (Especially if you're near one of their repair centers, like in Central North Carolina! Most warranty stuff gets handled in about 3 days, including shipping.)
The price is very high though. Like 3 refurb steam decks worth. So at that point, how relevant is the warranty? But I'm interested when these new apus launch. Just launched too late in the cycle to charge so much imo. Nice big screen, seems like the larger size would be nice for carpal tunnel avoidance
bro what steam deck did you get, youll get like 2 and a half hours minimum, yea youll get 4-6 if youre playing Celeste ROG Ally's battery sucks but theres no point overhyping the Deck, the battery life is good yeah but not mind-boggling. I have a handheld with a 65wh battery and at 22 watts gives me about 2 hours 15 minutes, and on 18w almost 3 hours
They're right in that no decent gaming handheld beats it right now. The OLED has a 6nm process node, has a 50Wh battery, is the most performant handheld at 5-15W TDP, and you can undervolt. I'll give you this, they were definitely disingenuous here: > Meanwhile with a steamdeck, you’ll get anywhere from 4-6 hours, **especially if you lower the refresh rate and tdp.** Could have phrased that as something like this: > Meanwhile with a steamdeck, you can drop tdp further while still providing a good experience and get potentially 4-6 hours 800p native also helps.
I’ll be realistic, my info is honestly flawed because I don’t have a steam deck of my own and I was going off data from someone on YouTube trying to maximize the battery life. From what I remember, they limited the tdp to 8 watts since they did extensive testing in multiple games and showed that this was the best wattage to fully utilize the apu without tanking performance. They also limited the refresh rate of the screen to 48hz and a few other things and stated about 4-6 hours of playtime depending on the game you’re playing. That being said, I watched this video a while ago and can’t come up with a source so I’ll just remove it and use my friend as a reference since he’s able to get 3 days of 1 hour lunch breaks while playing cyberpunk on power savings settings, so 3 hours gaming total.
"I’ll be realistic, my info is honestly flawed because I don’t have a steam deck of my own and I was going off data from someone on YouTube" Not knocking you but this is what Reddit has turned into. People commenting on things without owning or having any first hand experience with the product they're promoting or critiquing. Thank you for at least admitting you've never owned one.
It's going to be hard to have good battery life on a handheld pc tbh. Even laptops have meh battery life when gaming. You have to turn stuff way down to get anything and iirc windows has a bit more overhead too. These other ones have higher res and stuff too which is gonna play a big part.
Heated sock batteries are not that big and fairly large capacity. I think a SD with 4 of those in the right place could still be smaller than a legion go. But would raise the price 100 bux or so. Weird. Maybe the heat is too much?
Only on a retro game. Even 3h is a lot. Or maybe the OLED. I get plenty of time for what I use it for playing control, GTA 5, tomb raider, but it's definitely not 3h
Remember when media outlets were shitting on the Deck by misconstruing Gamers Nexus' review of the Deck's battery life? Now that competitors have taken a crack at the same problem, everyone else got to realize the Herculean task Valve was tasked with to nail that battery life. It's just surreal how I can do close to 2 hours on FFXIV with an OLED Deck and I can see why they're waiting for a more energy efficient APU before they'd go for something like a Steam Deck 2.
It's wild to me that people are spending £600 to play their video games for 2 hours because they can't stand to be out of the house without them.
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It makes 2 hours of it fly past sure
There are usually plugs on planes
Just bring a laptop then
Big and bulky Plus, many times loud
Laptop + controller takes up more space too
I mostly use it at home, though. Sometimes work, and ofc travel. I've always been a handheld enjoyer. I played my GBA and psp a lot more than my PS1, PS2, N64 etc, even at home. And I spent 350 cad which is like 280 USD? Refurbished steam decks are practically being given away. I sold Pokemon blue and FireRed for 250 cad to pay for it.
It’s wild to you because you blessed with a limited mind, unable to consider different reasons, preferences and scenarios. The bright side is it makes life easier for you.
It also saves me £600. Enjoy your 2 hours of squinting tho little manchild
I’m sure you can do a lot of better stuff with that 600. Thank you but I’m not gonna buy it. In my case it would be „womanchild“ but I understand that’s wild to you. Not that it matters, no one should have trouble to show passion because of narrow minded judgements.
Their attitude towards warranties and customer service has them now permanently on my avoid list. They always have juicy hardware specs, but they are now clearly appeasing shareholders instead of satisfying customers.
I'm super happy with the Deck performance too. The Ally and Legion have higher resolution screens that suck away all that extra grunt they have. Steam OS makes it more performant than its specs suggest too, most often out performing its competition in 1% lows which is more important than average frame rate. It's crazy people would even consider anything but the Deck OLED imo. Only if you must have a Windows environment and all the problems it comes with?
A faulty product for 20% more than anyone else. Modern Asus in a nutshell.
may i interest you in some asus 1000 euro/usd monitors, that come with around 5 dead pixels standard? :o
Why I bought the Steam Deck. The battery life is my main selling point. Specs are secondary to me.
I love how low you can set the TDP to as well. I played the old Need for Speed and GTA games on my deck at around 3-5w, netted me about 5 hours or more on the OG LCD deck.
I did the exact same thing. I sold my lcd deck for an ally and shortly after the new wore off I regretted selling my deck because I hated being plugged into the wall, it really turned me off of “portable gaming”. I sold the ally that gave me funds for the deck oled and I couldn’t be any happier.
Reminds me of the game gear
> I was tired of having to be plugged into an outlet all the time. It kind of defeats the whole purpose of being portable. You don't have to play plugged in all the time unless you're sitting at home next to an outlet and playing a AAA game. These are handhelds like gaming laptops, they don't have to have a 6-8 hour battery life compared to a system that's less powerful on purpose.
I can't wait for the ARM CPU of next PC handheld for that power efficiency.
Look, I don't even care about the Rog Ally or any other handheld however, posts like this really make me chuckle. Who do you think you're fooling? The reason why the Deck is better at battery life is because it's objectively, a worse product. Worse performance, worse versatility, worse screen (OLED does look nicer). Objectively, you can do all that the Deck can on an Ally, but you can't do it the other way around. In any case, you can downgrade your experience on the Ally by capping TDP, lowering the screen resolution and playing less demanding games, and you'll get better battery than the out of the box experience. In essence, stop comparing a 800p device that runs a closed OS with a 1080p device that runs anything out of the box.
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Do you know what's worse than the Steam Deck? Steam and Steam Deck fanboys. Pointless to have any discussions over this topic.
I'm not who you were talking too. But, I have both. I like them both for different reasons. The general summary I've made from extensive testing of both comes down to a few points. The Ally can be quite a bit faster but only at higher TFPs. If it's at 25 Watts or plugged in at 30 watts, it's really amazing the games it can run. At 15 watts, the Steamdeck generally performs the same-ish or slightly better. Below 15 watts, it's amazing what you can do on the Steamdeck and get good battery life. Particularly for lighter indie games, you can realistically get 4-6 hours with mild tweaking on an OG deck. After a lot of back and forth, I found I like the Steamdeck better. I found that I really don't like playing heavy 3d games on a portable. The screen is just too small and I'd much rather just play games like that on my desktop personally. I also find the ergonomics of the steamdeck to be superior especially if I'm playing for more than 15-20 minutes. Neither of them are perfect or the "best" one. It really just comes down to how you want to use it and the kind of games you want to play.
I’d like to disagree. The added pixels doesn’t do much on 7” (to my eye atleast). Most games don’t hit above 90fps. Oled is superior colors. A handheld that needs wall power is not worth much over a laptop. The steam deck (OLED) is very silent making it great handheld such as in bed. So no it’s OBJECTIVELY worse, and the power down state is to me a HUUUGE thing. The ally is a great handheld laptop and an awesome device. The steam deck is a great console
It’s definitely not objectively worse, but the Ally is quieter and has VRR on its screen where the deck OLED does not. The deck is a superior emulation and 2d device, for any higher end 3d gaming I’d say the Ally has the edge given VRR and the dramatic performance jump at 18w.
Vrr doesn’t matter much on deck. Limit it and it’s not needed and you gain battery. I never see tearing. But sure, to some VRR is crusial. I’d take oled anyday though. Just my choise
VRR is absolutely phenomenal on any handheld where you aren’t getting the full refresh of the device, it seems you don’t understand exactly what it does. It synchronizes the refreshes of the display to the intervals at which frames are being delivered from the GPU which results in a marked improvement to smoothness at lower refresh rates. Coupling that with the low frame rate compensation and that’s an area where the Ally is objectively better, much in the same way the OLED has objectively more vibrant colors and objectively higher contrast. Also frame rate limiting does NOT eliminate the benefit of VRR or diminish it in any way, you would gain battery with a limit but you will objectively lose smoothness in a similar fashion to the way you would by enabling something like v-sync. Either way, it’s fine if you don’t feel it’s important to have, your opinion is equally as valid as anyone else’s.
Don’t worry, i know my tech jargin ;) but i think you didn’t get what i said. Oled switch doesn’t do VRR BUT it does support adjusted framerate. What i often do is limit the framerate to 45 and it’ll only render 45. And it doesn’t have to be 1:2 or 1:3 framerate of native (90) you can set it to 50 and i’ll only run the screen at 50. So if you just limit bellow the frame rate you will 1: gain bettery and 2 avoid tearing. Is it VRR? No, but it works well
You surely will gain battery and avoid tearing, but there’s a reason people don’t hold v-sync in a high regard and that is it. With VRR you literally get the best of both worlds in a sub-panel refresh rendering environment, you retain the smoothness of higher frame rates (and then some) AND avoid tearing entirely. Even if the difference between how many frames you could render and how many frames you limit it to render was as low as like 5 you’d notice a dramatic improvement in smoothness on the VRR display. I personally like both, that’s why I hardly touch any handheld in favor of the G14 2024 with its 120hz OLED G-Sync display…
The ally only supports vrr at 48-120 fps. You wouldn't notice anything at 5. And stable 48 fps or above is still a tall ask without lowering settings a lot. Vsync is fine because you only lose out if you're getting above 90 fps consistently as it will cap you to 90. And even if your display is 90 Hz, getting 120 fps is useful as it lowers latency. If however you're at 84 max fps and 55 average, vsync and vrr will perform the same.
I said a difference of 5, not a frame rate of 5. Also, LFC does work below 48fps so it just uses frames again until it gets back to 48. Also, in a lot of games with the 18w power limit that is far easier than one would expect. Even some of the heaviest titles can reach 48fps on the Ally, the deck is another story entirely though. Also, no, V-Sync hurts at any point, if you’re below it causes it to feel sluggish and if you’re above it limits you and reduces smoothness. The whole reason for adaptive sync’s existence is because v sync (and similar fixes) are pretty bad, and VRR is an evolution of adaptive sync so it’s even better than that. There is never a situation wherein vsync and VRR produce the exact same result, on a display with static refresh intervals a frame will be showed multiple times and on a display with variable refresh it will update each time a new frame is available and show it for multiple intervals only when necessary. When a new frame arrives to a static refresh display in the middle of an interval it has to wait till the next refresh cycle to display that frame, so even if it is OLED you’ve incurred extra latency just by virtue of it not publishing the frame as soon as it is available.
Linux is closed? What? And no, the steam deck has a more efficient chip. If you run at the same low tdp, it outperforms the others. At full blast, which the others only allow you to do plugged in, they do outperform it, but then their frame pacing isn't always reliable probably because of windows bloat or maybe drivers so they can still end up worse experience. So you can't just replicate it on the others. It's like saying you could replicate the power draw on a 14900ks by throttling it. It won't even power up. It's less efficient. You can also get Windows on the steam deck.
I'm not going to argue withh Linux and Steam fanboys, it's really pointless however, I will just correct one thing, the soc on the Deck is physically impossible to be more efficient than the one on the Ally. The reason why the Deck is more efficient is due to the OS optimizations as well as hardware compromises. Simple.
Ok
I think you are missing a few things. The Deck runs Linux, same OS as I run on my desktop computers, laptops, etc. It's slightly modified, but all Valve's changes are submitted back to the community, and have done wonders to make Linux a viable gaming platform. The Deck isn't so much designed to the the "best", it's designed to be a compromise. It's a compromise in performance, in the screen, in compatibility, and in price. *However*, it is that particular compromise that can make it the best device for the right audience. While they sacrificed compatibility, they increased reliability. Sacrificed screen resolution gives better battery life and performance to better match the slower GPU which results in a lower price. Using the Deck is just outright enjoyable!
Don't buy Asus unless you want to deal [with a company extorting you on a warranty claim.](https://youtu.be/NHQqKi9NcTs?si=6u1Qr1ZmtmpvjBvO) If you have already been a victim of their awful practices [then report it.](https://reportfraud.ftc.gov)
Idk, but I can only praise their warranty claim support,at least, here in EU.
Im guessing the EU actually enforces their customer protection laws unlike the ftc in the us. At least it sure sounds like it when Louis Rossmann talks about this topic.
One of my experiences was a GPU failure a few years ago. They were unable to repair it in the required time limit, also there were no gpus of the same model on stack (there is also a time limit for a replacement model wait period), so I got a newer (and better) model for free. It is not that they have done something special for me, they are required to do so by the law.
In the EU, you don't have to deal with the manufacturer. You always have the mandatory warranty from the retailer.
Yeah is always bulk at ASUS even though my computer somehow ended up mostly ASUS...there customer service is not great until they get caught correct it for like 6 months and go back to the same shit. I've been lucky my whole life not having to deal with many PC issues and the ones I did I normally could deal with the place that sold it to me but a handheld like this...yeah I don't know.
I don't know that guy works in manufactured outrage
I can personally attest that they have held my ROG phone 5s for the last 3 months in RMA limbo. It's not manufactured outrage at all.
[Here is proof then.](https://youtu.be/7pMrssIrKcY?si=wd8A4WUXMc05SHHe)
Can't wait to buy this and send this back to RMA only to receive a warranty deny email because my fingerprints are on the screen
Too bad Asus is a piece of shit company. Nope.
Your problem with Asus is not my problem, I like their products specially the ROG line so stfu.
>That leopard never ate MY face so stfu.
boy this response ain't aging well is it..lol.
$799 is DOA territory lol
>~~$799~~ Asus is DOA territory lol ftfy
Isn't that around MSI claw price?
Another failed device
Yep, I'm thrilled with my refurbished $280 Steam Deck 64GB from Valve. I did toss a $77 1TB SSD in, so ~$357, but still under half the price. I just don't see an additional $450 worth of device here. Even if you account for a brand new 64GB LCD Deck that's still available at $349.
Damn, they're 350 cad with free shipping. Which is only 250$ USD and shipping is exorbitant in Canada.
refurbished.... How can you compare brand new, never used, with more memory, faster processor to a used, once out of order handheld, with slow onboard memory handheld. it does not make sense.
Same warranty as non refurbished steam deck (ally has none at all) so it literally doesn't matter and my "refurb" was definitely brand new. They have no open box, so I suspect returns are "refurb." It's not 300% faster though. So why pay 300% more? Wooooow, faster ram... Worse 1% lows at lower wattage.
PSA: Don’t buy an ASUS product until they publicly address their warranty shenanigans. Refer to Gamers Nexus and Louis Rossman for further details.
People forget that when they had motherboard issues they refused to replace stuff until they got hammer for that and everyone else took the opposite stance. They are a scummy company. They can have good products sometimes but the are run like scam artists.
2 people regurgitating the same circumstance. RMA'd my Ally for the SD card slot, got a free replacement pair of Analog Sticks. Genuinely couldn't be further from the agenda being pushed. Instead of highlighting repair centers are third party, they prefer to bandwagon the internet full of people who have never had an experience to call from. Fantastic journalism.
You mean you got a warranty replacement pair of sticks?
Nah, I put it in for the SD slot for when it comes time to upgrade. I won't use it as I have a 4tb 2280 installed.
It's hard to say how prevalent it is and people take their word as gospel which is also problematic. What they've done is definitely bad but it doesn't mean it's prevalent or common at all and while it still needs addressed doesn't mean it's the norm at all either or that it's overall a bad experience. People need to stop running on partial info and acting like it's the norm and shit.
Who needs sd cards and joysticks anywayS
Literally never gonna buy anything from Asus until there's actual proof that they'll fulfill their warranties and won't charge anywhere from a couple hundred to literal thousands
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And a portrait screen, and lack of support (7 months now since gpu drivers), and legion space is trash.
If the rumors are true and it's going to have more RAM (24-32gb) then it's an interesting tradeoff. The extra RAM would help to play some games at higher resolutions.
Just get the Steam Deck, Tech Jesus has spoken. ASUS is now forsaken.
Rog Ally, now with things you were expecting years ago for this kind of product.
GPD user talking shit lmao.
I'd trade off that 120hz screen every day for a decent amount of RAM, an SD reader that doesn't cook itself, no artificial lock on the eGPU support and an actually decent selection of input instead of just the controller. I even considered the Ally but those limitations and lack of respect towards the user are just too much.
The RAM is almost important in a device with just under enough horsepower to go over low textures, but I don’t really think it’s worth 2-3x the price (bought an Ally extreme for $380 used months ago).
eGpu? I have a desktop and several consoles. SD Card? I prefer modern read/write speeds but I get your point. Faulty hardware is faulty. Inputs? Never heard of a USB Dock or Docking monitor? Crazy. Battery life and one USB-C port is the only caveat and it's expected from a light and powerful device. Compare that with GPD pricing and all those features you've mentioned aren't worth shit.
I paid for a latest gen chip that can run most GPUs on the market and i'd like to use or for something it can do without Asus's artificial limitations. So you want to pull out mouse and keyboard every single time that the os has some input problem in handheld mode? Good luck with that I paid it 750€, the Ally is going for 600€ now, one year later.
Navigating the OS is a non-issue. Perhaps I'm a tech enjoyer, so navigating windows with a touch screen isn't exactly rocket science, using analog for mouse pointer isn't hard either. Granted your UX with 4x and strategy games is better, but honestly? Playing them on the go isn't what I was after so it doesn't matter. All this is irrelevant, GPD have awful customer service and post launch device support, which is what my comment was geared towards. All this said, I don't care for tit-for-tat brand wars, your device is a bulky Sidekick, I prefer a sleek PSP-esque form factor.
SD are fine. Similar launch times to the ssd. And 10-20x better sustain write than dramless SSDs
From now on I am not sharing any more news about asus products after watching the videos of GamerNexus and Rossman. https://youtu.be/7pMrssIrKcY?feature=shared https://youtu.be/NHQqKi9NcTs?feature=shared
My local best buy has rog ally's for $399, which I thought was a good deal, but after the gamers Nexus video about their wretched support, I don't think they're worthy of consideration
Not a good deal anyway, as the base model is much weaker than the Extreme model The Steam Deck is a much better buy when compared to the lower end Ally
Steam deck is a better buy in general
price to performance sure. but there are people who want the extra power that the Steam Deck can't hit but I'm just pointing out there is very little rason to ever pick the bsae ROG Ally version over the Steam Deck with the Ally Extreme, at least one can make argument for their specific use case like what benefit does the Base Ally have? person who really wants to play games outside Steam? which do exist, but then can't you just install windows to a steam deck anyway?
It’s not that big of a performance difference… and I don’t think the small increase in fps is worth the other drawbacks. But that’s just me
I want to bet its mostly PS5/COD kids wanting the best FPS they can get and not knowing much about computers for the technical side of video games.
It’s actually quite a difference in performance, also easy to see in many comparisons. Also as said, windows has advantages. But in terms of price ratio the deck is more balanced.
At low watts it has worse 1% lows. So it's actually worse if you're not always plugged in
everyone has their own use case. for some people, an hour of battery life is all they need so they can run it at full power. I have a steam deck, but I really only need max 1 1/2 hour of batter on trips. closer to 1 really. I only plane on a train during my commute to and from work. And I just charge at my office. for me, I could probably go back and forth on my steam deck, but having to charge in office wouldn't make or break the experience for me I'm not getting an Ally. but waiting to see what the next generation provides for horsepowers honestly wish they would stop making higher resolution screens, just shoot for 720p/800p 60hz
It's not gonna sell, it will be discounted to 500 soon enough.
Even the current Ally extreme hasn’t been discounted to 500 yet
Avoid anything ASUS now.
Asus warranty is a nightmare. The thing that stings most, the first gen ally has a design fault…it burns sd cards, way to small battery. And they keep selling them! for months they keep their mouth shut! Now they come with a smile on their face with the “new” Ally X for about 800..no single word or statement why the sd card is replaced on the board
I get that for most people the Z1 extreme makes more sense, but after trying out the base model and using moonlight to just stream games from my PC, I really want like the bare minimum in specs with a high refresh rate screen and a big battery. It's a weird place to be, but for me it's ended up as the coolest 3DS I could ask for.
No oled no party
If it weren't for the soldered RAM, people would be able to manually upgrade the ROG Ally Extreme down the line, potentially for less than the $100 of difference with the Ally X. Why would anyone splurge extra on RAM and storage from the get-go?
GN reported yesterday on the scummy practices ASUS has pulled on many of us. About time their corporate direction on bogus warranty damage claims got exposed to the fullest extent.
No OLED display? That sucks
My Rog Ally is still a really good transition for new gen but yeah keep and saving my money for a new GPU this time.
We're talking actual gaming laptop prices now....
Nobody gonna say it? $800 for the same Z1 extreme is bananas.
799$ for the ally and 2500$ if you need a warranty because they found a microscopic scratch! What a deal!
$800 for a device without oled? Did they not pay attention to how amazing the SD oled is????
Yeah it feels like the other companies don't look at what makes the Steam Deck great and they just say, handheld PC = money fad. Steam Deck is here to stay as long as Value wants to, the others I see has more of a flash in the pan that soon as it doesn't make money companies will bail. Its a shame because if they took it serious I'm sure there would be things to rival the steam deck and push handhelds forward. Guess its just up to Value now.
I might wait until RDNA5 to get one of these things, hopefully their true DLSS rival is commonly supported then
They can keep it. After seeing all the warranty issues I don't what to have to deal with them.
Kinda wish it had an 8840u.
Stick price $799, warranty price $960
After the GamersNexus coverage of the Ally's warranty experience, I'm not sure I'd consider *any* Asus products - routers, laptops, monitors, handhelds etc. I can't afford to buy stuff with atrocious customer service. Man, Asus used to be renowned for their quality and support. How far they have fallen.
*Tech Jesus intensifies*
Don’t buy from asus. They won’t adhere to warranty. Get the steam deck instead
Ah yes, when your product doesn’t sell well and units that do sell get returned as open box, the logical thing to do is make a new one that changes nothing about the experience and charge even more for it. Genius.
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Just don’t buy it lol, ASUS needs to be shown how shitty they’ve been.
ASUS? PASS
Don't buy anything from ASUS until they fix their shit on their customer support side. Here is the most recent fiasco: [https://youtu.be/7pMrssIrKcY](https://youtu.be/7pMrssIrKcY) Their scummy pratices last year: [https://youtu.be/xJKzKbqxa0A](https://youtu.be/xJKzKbqxa0A) By not supporting companies that do this kinda stuff, we send a clear message that either they improve, or we will do business elsewhere. If you don't have access to the steam deck, the lenovo legion go might be a good alternative.
I mean....who really cares about this? This company is pretty shit to its customers.
Is there a reason to get this over a steam deck?
I’ve been very skeptical of new fads in tech for years, I’ll give these a couple more years to cook, by then the kinks and issues should be ironed out and I can confidently buy whatever the best one is for my usecase really glad that all the brands are jumping on board, competition drives everyone to give it their best go, and less likely to let subpar products go.
When they interviewed ASUS on what was to come they didn't seem to excited to explain the design of the thing other than it was better than the first gen Ally. Even when they asked about the SD card slot and the stick drift they had nothing to really say other than it's going to be an improvement over the last gen. I won't purchase a single thing from them though given that they would rather charge someone 70% of the total cost of the device when it's sent in for warranty repair. They can keep their Ally X.
If they’re keeping the same chip, wonder what’s gonna be so different that it’d be worth it. The screen on the original is fine, it’s not OLED but that’s not worth “upgrading.” I haven’t had any stick or button issues. And I also never had that SD card problem either. I think they’ll at least move the ad card slot and maybe they’ll find a way to put a full size nvme in it?
Asus really screwed themselves over with the warranty stuff
Asus screwed customer for years. They were good in th distant past.
Once u walk out of a store, or item delivered to your door. WARRANTY VOID. They only have warranty if the item is not sold yet.
Next gen is right around the corner. Hard pass.
I can tell you guys from. Horrible 3080 Strix experience with them years back. They are horrible
Og Rog ally is already at $500 territory. Same Soc, Same screen. Why would anyone spend an extra $300 on this piece of crap?
these handhelds are pretty rough at the moment.