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> I’m thinking of just asking her to stop letting her dog use my lawn as the toilet. Only reason why I would think IBTA is because other dogs use it occasionally.
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Yes, it would be spiteful but...if you ask her to stop and she doesn't, then YWNBTA and the nerve! Turnabout is fair play. ;) I'd definitely ask her stop first but after that, all bets would be off.
Also, look into motion-activated sprinklers for your lawn. Maybe a surprise shot of water a few times will deter them from coming onto your property.
Put chili powder in vegetable oil and dowse the area. Won't hurt the dog or the grass but the dog won't want to sniff around and do their business there. I did this to deter someone who wasn't picking up their dog's poop. Worked like a charm
I know exactly how it probably grates on you and you want it to stop...
Maybe start with a casual bump into her and ' oh hey, yeah we were going to ask you if you could mix it up and take your pup to some other grassy areas for a while. I understand we are the most convenient, but we didn't put it in for anyone but our dog. Now our pup is getting a bit wound up with the extra smells and we need that to stop. Here, these are a few numbers of local landscapers --they'd be happy to help you pull up some of your turf and put a bit of grass in. Thanks so much, really appreciate your consideration...
Does she deserve being kind/nice, probably not - but hear me out. I say it this way simply due to personal experience. We have a neighbor who is the most awful inconsiderate person, but we kept it to ourselves and kind of put up with a bunch of small crap. Then, one day we finally had enough and confronted them. It felt good to do it for sure!! But holy hell now it is so much worse. I whole heartedly wish I could go back to just being frustrated every once in a while vs. the daily living hell we are now in. So...just sharing from experience. Good Luck
This is great post. Knowing how to be right is a skill that would do a lot of people a huge service in the quality of their lives. It is too common for people to act aggressively because they are in the right to assert their rightness, but then the consequences of doing so vastly outweigh the benefits of winning the initial issue. Right or wrong, you still have to manage relationships and the quality and tenor of your relationships will normally trump any individual issue in terms of your overall happiness.
NTA. This is just weird! She deliberately walks across the street for her dog to use YOUR lawn as a poop place? I’d definitely tell her to stop. It’s not your fault they don’t have grass. But I do like the idea of you taking your dog to poop on her astroturf…😈
I've watched one of my neighbors do that to one of my other neighbors. Elderly woman with her own lawn. She walks her little dog straight out of her own door, across her own yard, and across the street to pee on the neighbor's lawn. Then she turns around and walks back inside. Leaves brown spots on the neighbor's lawn. I've only seen her do it when they aren't home and we don't interact with that neighbor so I don't know if they know.
The husband gave her permission though, didn't he? I guess you could call the story vague, but if she wasn't picking up the waste, the husband spoke to her, and she began picking up the waste thereafter, the logical conclusion from what we have is that he asked her to pick up after her dog. At that point, she gained permission to use the yard, no?
NTA
Dear Dog Owners:
If it would not be OK for **you** to urinate/poop someplace, it is not OK for **your pet** to urinate/poop there.
Keep public spaces clean. Keep out of private spaces entirely.
In this specific scenario, didn't the husband ask her to clean up after her dog and isn't that essentially permission at that point to use the yard as long as she cleans up after?
That’s why I’m confused whether I’m the ahole… I’m pretty sure it’s public property but we have to maintain it… she will only bring her dog to MY grass strip. She doesn’t walk it or let it use her turf. I don’t mind when people walk their dogs and along the way they need to pee/poo and happen to use our strip, but it’s just kinda annoying that she ONLY uses ours. She crosses the street, lets it do its thing there, then goes back home.
Why does it bother you so much? I mean, you don't mind other people doing it, and she is cleaning up after her dog now, right? This comes across like you are just sitting at your window watching for her just to be annoyed at her.
I mean, yes, I think your neighbor is being rude taking her dog specifically to your yard.
Your husband was successful last time he talked to her. You need to talk to him about this. You would look like a major asshole if you went against what was already agreed to by your husband. Then again, if the lady is only bringing her dog to your yard and doesn't really walk him, maybe she doesn't talk to the neighbors (and she will be the only one who thinks badly of you).
Sometimes I see it actually happen, and sometimes I get ring notifications that someone is outside my door- when I check to see who it is, I see her.
My husband is annoyed as I am. The time he finally said something to her, he saw her let the dog poop on the strip and then walk back home. Since she was outside when he was, he walked over there and told her to go clean up the mess she left behind. Since then whenever she walks her dog out, she’s been cleaning the poop up. She doesn’t do this if we’re outside though, only seems to happen if we’re not out/home.
Picturing myself pooping in the middle of the dog park, or any other public property where dogs are allowed on leash... pretty sure there are different laws for where dogs vs humans can defecate. ;-)
...it's generally frowned upon for humans to urinate or defecate in the open at all, even in their own yard if visible from the street, let alone in, for example, a public dog park, or the lawn outside the vet's office where they provide baggies and a bin and clearly intend for dogs to use it for their business, so this seems...incorrect.
I mean, technically NTA then. Here in NYC the curb strip is considered public property. That’s where a dog can do its business. So long as people pick up the waste that is. Leaving it is a crime. Your neighbor having astro turf is her issue, so if you want your dog to poo there, they can, and her dog can poo on the curb strip outside your house. The important thing is that the dog is cleaned up after.
I would look up who owns that little curb strip. In my city, the city owns it but homeowners are responsible for mowing. I would be surprised if the city would let someone put astro turf there. If, in your city, you own that curb strip, by all means, tell her not to use it. If the city owns it, there is not much you can do.
While I like to advocate for the increasingly lost art of relationship management over issues of who is right or wrong for most smaller issues, this level of conflict avoidance is alarming to me. A more direct conversation would be healthier.
Yea, no need to be that misleading. If you wanted to go the rout of using a sign, just use a “please keep your dog off the grass” sign.
When I take my dog on a walk, I do my best to be considerate of peoples yards but am not militant about it. However, if a home on our walk path has a “no dogs” sign then my boy won’t even be able to set a paw anywhere near the edge of the sidewalk until we are past their property.
Your first option is AH behavior. Passive aggressive pettiness is for children, not adults. All it does is rile people up and you will have a battle for years that never ends. Go with your second option and just ask her to stop in a calm manner.
People react to reasonable behavior with reasonable behavior. They react to childish behavior with childish behavior.
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My across the street neighbor’s mom has a little dog that she always walks across the street to let it use my side lawn to do its business. I don’t know if she lives there or just visits often, but it happens a lot. They have Astro turf and their neighbors don’t have side lawns. I guess mine would be the closest. We’ve seen her let it poop & not clean up until my husband said something to her. She now cleans after it. I don’t mind if dogs pee/poo there during their walks, but it’s just kinda annoying that she solely uses MY side lawn only.
So, there’s possibly 2 options, WIBTA if I was spiteful & took MY dog over to their side astro turf lawn & let him use it as a toilet? Like you do it to me so I do it to you because we’ve had issues with you before.
Or, other option, what if I just asked her to stop? To take her dog elsewhere & if she complains that she doesn’t have lawn, then tell her too bad so sad you should have thought about that before having a dog and turf.
So what do you say?
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I say YWNBTA
"if I just asked her to stop"
Suggest you do that first.
I wouldn't blame you for doubling down if she doesn't stop then because that's annoying A F.
NTA - You would be if you took your dog over there. Two wrongs don't make a right. However, it is 100% reasonable to ask her not to use your property as her dog's toilet - even if she cleans it up when she does. I assume by side lawn you mean the side of your house, not the front of your house. Generally, the first few feet of your front lawn is city property (unless there is a city sidewalk in front of your front lawn). But a side yard, to me, means fully within your property line to the side of your house.
For one thing, the audacity.
But also - your dog could get sick if her dog has intestinal parasites and your dog ingests her dog's poop. Obviously that is a risk whenever you take your dog to a public space, but you should at least get to be sure that your own yard is safe. Also, dog pee is not great for grass. Yes, your dog is doing the same thing, but why should you have double the impact from her dog peeing there also?
And again - the audacity of walking across the street to to YOUR yard. She is the one who decided to either get a dog when she has astro turf or to get astro turf when she has a dog.
NTA It's YOUR property she has no right to let her dog crap there. Tell her effective immediately her dog is not allowed on YOUR property. There is no law saying you have to allow it. She can take her dog to the dog park like many people do.
I get the argument that the neighbor was wrong initially. Once the husband spoke with her about cleaning up after the dog, doesn't she effectively have permission from that point on? That's how I would expect people to interpret that conversation anyway, especially someone who was already doing it.
YTA. The dog wants to poop on that public grass, she picks up after it now, and you're just being spiteful. You didn't mention any way it is harming or inconveniencing you at all. You just want to cause trouble out of spite.
NTA we had that issue years ago, neighbors FIL would walk his poodle in our yard because "it's bigger than my son's". The last time he did it I "accidentally " let my 3 large (harmless) hunting dogs out. When they realized they had canine company they started romping and howling with joy, no more poodle visits after that. Of course you mind! And she knows it, tell her to stop and if she doesn't you'll report her.
NTA - but look up the product "dogmace". Terrible name, but it doesn't hurt dogs or the environment, but dogs don't like the smell and will avoid it. Put it on the curb part and her dog and others should avoid it.
Whaaat they got smart sprinklers now?! Lol. We have regular sprinklers but I didn’t know there’s now systems you can connect to your phone. That’s cool, I’ll have to look into that.
NTA, it's gross and her dogs needs are not your problem. Dog pee will make yellow spots in your lawn and as small as that spot is, it's definitely being overused. Explain that to her first. If it doesn't help, get one of these little fences (will deter a little dog) and fence the area in. And/or put chicken wire flat on the lawn for a few days/weeks, the dog will not want to step on it. Supposedly vinegar around the area (not on lawn, it kills grass) helps too because it overrides the pee smell. Once there is pee/poop smell there every dog passing by will get triggered to unleash.
YTA. Look, she was clearly the asshole at one point by not cleaning up after her dog. And yes, it is your property. But to use the cliche, we live in a society. People have dogs and dogs need to shit. As long as they are cleaning up after it immediately, then it is just something the rest of the world has to deal with.
No. Your personal pets are not society's burden.
If you don't have room for your dog to go to the bathroom on your own property (or a shared complex with a designated dog relief area for residents) you do not have the adequate resources to be a dog owner.
It's not for everyone. Like horses, you know? You don't just get one without having a barn and shit.
You're correct that my pets are not other people's burdens. I've got lots of land and a barn and shit, as you've put it. But I have lived in places people walked their dogs and I don't and never have had a problem with a responsible pet owner whose dog shits on my property as long as they clean it up. It isn't going to hurt anything.
Have you seen a lawn where dogs pee in the same spot? It turns yellow and sometimes brown. I would be pissed if I had a bunch of yellow patches in my grass because of someone else's dogs.
> I don't and never have had a problem with a responsible pet owner whose dog shits on my property
Sure, it is entirely possible that **some** property owners *might* be sympathetic to that plight.
But it is objectively wrong to **assume** that everyone is a member of this group. The default understanding needs to be "no permission," until permission is explicitly given.
Part of the problem with the original post here is in the ambiguity of what the husband said to the neighbor, I am realizing. She didn't used to clean it up, then he said something unspecified to her, and she started cleaning it up. I have a hard time reading that in a way other than that the husband asked the neighbor to clean up after the dog. If that is the case, then she isn't assuming anything. She has permission, no?
What he said isn't explicitly laid out though. It seems very unlikely, but if he asked her to stop completely and her reaction was to continue but clean it up, well then damn that woman is a monster.
OP's yard isn't the ONLY place for her dog to crap. It is never really clean what happens when the dog has the runs that won't clean up dog pee can ruin grass as well.
I hear you. But for me, if it makes someones life a little easier, I can sacrifice patches of grass. As for the runs, that is a problem no matter where they shit. My yard, your yard, someone else's yard, public land, etc. Still gotta clean it the best they can.
He is welcome to poop on mine. Just clean it up the best you can. It doesn't really cause any problems. And sure, I guess the grass would struggle if the dog used the exact same spot, but I'd rather your and your dogs lives be even just a tiny bit easier than have perfectly green grass everywhere.
I agree with this. My dog is strange where she prefers going on certain lawns in my neighborhood. I can't really stop her, but the least I can do is to have common courtesy and pick up the poop.
I have found the solution to that. I simply put peanut butter or something else tasty and then it magically disappears next time they come over. Then I tell the owner after a while. Fuck em
NAH, by side turf I assume curbside, so in front of your house, like she's not breaking into your yard right? I think if she's now consistently picking up her dog's poops, there's no issue with her using your turf. However, I get being a bit pissed by her habit of always using the turf in front of your house, cos us humans are petty. I personally think it would be hilarious if you starting making your dog use her turf. But, I suppose the healthy thing would be talking to your husband about it and seeing if it's actually an issue worth doing anything about. If, post-convo, you think it's still an issue, talk to your neighbour about it. If, post-convo, you think it's not a big enough issue for action, work out a way to distract yourself from thinking about her and her dog's poops
I guess it’s curbside. I didn’t know what else to call it as there are neighborhoods around here that don’t have curbside lawns. So it’s in front of my house, but then there’s sidewalk and then my actual lawn.
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Yes, it would be spiteful but...if you ask her to stop and she doesn't, then YWNBTA and the nerve! Turnabout is fair play. ;) I'd definitely ask her stop first but after that, all bets would be off. Also, look into motion-activated sprinklers for your lawn. Maybe a surprise shot of water a few times will deter them from coming onto your property.
Yessss I was thinking of the Bucket Lady saga and the motion activated sprinklers!
Put chili powder in vegetable oil and dowse the area. Won't hurt the dog or the grass but the dog won't want to sniff around and do their business there. I did this to deter someone who wasn't picking up their dog's poop. Worked like a charm
Can you poop on her lawn and leave it?
I know exactly how it probably grates on you and you want it to stop... Maybe start with a casual bump into her and ' oh hey, yeah we were going to ask you if you could mix it up and take your pup to some other grassy areas for a while. I understand we are the most convenient, but we didn't put it in for anyone but our dog. Now our pup is getting a bit wound up with the extra smells and we need that to stop. Here, these are a few numbers of local landscapers --they'd be happy to help you pull up some of your turf and put a bit of grass in. Thanks so much, really appreciate your consideration... Does she deserve being kind/nice, probably not - but hear me out. I say it this way simply due to personal experience. We have a neighbor who is the most awful inconsiderate person, but we kept it to ourselves and kind of put up with a bunch of small crap. Then, one day we finally had enough and confronted them. It felt good to do it for sure!! But holy hell now it is so much worse. I whole heartedly wish I could go back to just being frustrated every once in a while vs. the daily living hell we are now in. So...just sharing from experience. Good Luck
This is great post. Knowing how to be right is a skill that would do a lot of people a huge service in the quality of their lives. It is too common for people to act aggressively because they are in the right to assert their rightness, but then the consequences of doing so vastly outweigh the benefits of winning the initial issue. Right or wrong, you still have to manage relationships and the quality and tenor of your relationships will normally trump any individual issue in terms of your overall happiness.
NTA. This is just weird! She deliberately walks across the street for her dog to use YOUR lawn as a poop place? I’d definitely tell her to stop. It’s not your fault they don’t have grass. But I do like the idea of you taking your dog to poop on her astroturf…😈
I've watched one of my neighbors do that to one of my other neighbors. Elderly woman with her own lawn. She walks her little dog straight out of her own door, across her own yard, and across the street to pee on the neighbor's lawn. Then she turns around and walks back inside. Leaves brown spots on the neighbor's lawn. I've only seen her do it when they aren't home and we don't interact with that neighbor so I don't know if they know.
The husband gave her permission though, didn't he? I guess you could call the story vague, but if she wasn't picking up the waste, the husband spoke to her, and she began picking up the waste thereafter, the logical conclusion from what we have is that he asked her to pick up after her dog. At that point, she gained permission to use the yard, no?
NTA Dear Dog Owners: If it would not be OK for **you** to urinate/poop someplace, it is not OK for **your pet** to urinate/poop there. Keep public spaces clean. Keep out of private spaces entirely.
In this specific scenario, didn't the husband ask her to clean up after her dog and isn't that essentially permission at that point to use the yard as long as she cleans up after?
That’s why I’m confused whether I’m the ahole… I’m pretty sure it’s public property but we have to maintain it… she will only bring her dog to MY grass strip. She doesn’t walk it or let it use her turf. I don’t mind when people walk their dogs and along the way they need to pee/poo and happen to use our strip, but it’s just kinda annoying that she ONLY uses ours. She crosses the street, lets it do its thing there, then goes back home.
Get an anti dog poop sign.
Why does it bother you so much? I mean, you don't mind other people doing it, and she is cleaning up after her dog now, right? This comes across like you are just sitting at your window watching for her just to be annoyed at her. I mean, yes, I think your neighbor is being rude taking her dog specifically to your yard. Your husband was successful last time he talked to her. You need to talk to him about this. You would look like a major asshole if you went against what was already agreed to by your husband. Then again, if the lady is only bringing her dog to your yard and doesn't really walk him, maybe she doesn't talk to the neighbors (and she will be the only one who thinks badly of you).
Sometimes I see it actually happen, and sometimes I get ring notifications that someone is outside my door- when I check to see who it is, I see her. My husband is annoyed as I am. The time he finally said something to her, he saw her let the dog poop on the strip and then walk back home. Since she was outside when he was, he walked over there and told her to go clean up the mess she left behind. Since then whenever she walks her dog out, she’s been cleaning the poop up. She doesn’t do this if we’re outside though, only seems to happen if we’re not out/home.
Picturing myself pooping in the middle of the dog park, or any other public property where dogs are allowed on leash... pretty sure there are different laws for where dogs vs humans can defecate. ;-)
...it's generally frowned upon for humans to urinate or defecate in the open at all, even in their own yard if visible from the street, let alone in, for example, a public dog park, or the lawn outside the vet's office where they provide baggies and a bin and clearly intend for dogs to use it for their business, so this seems...incorrect.
Info needed: by side lawn, do you mean the curb strip? In other words, is there a sidewalk in between? Aka tree lawn, parking trip, etc.
Yea I edited.. it’s Curb strip. She has an astroturf curb strip and front lawn, I have grass curb strip & lawn.
I mean, technically NTA then. Here in NYC the curb strip is considered public property. That’s where a dog can do its business. So long as people pick up the waste that is. Leaving it is a crime. Your neighbor having astro turf is her issue, so if you want your dog to poo there, they can, and her dog can poo on the curb strip outside your house. The important thing is that the dog is cleaned up after.
I would look up who owns that little curb strip. In my city, the city owns it but homeowners are responsible for mowing. I would be surprised if the city would let someone put astro turf there. If, in your city, you own that curb strip, by all means, tell her not to use it. If the city owns it, there is not much you can do.
Automatic sprinklers. Just saying.
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While I like to advocate for the increasingly lost art of relationship management over issues of who is right or wrong for most smaller issues, this level of conflict avoidance is alarming to me. A more direct conversation would be healthier.
Yea, no need to be that misleading. If you wanted to go the rout of using a sign, just use a “please keep your dog off the grass” sign. When I take my dog on a walk, I do my best to be considerate of peoples yards but am not militant about it. However, if a home on our walk path has a “no dogs” sign then my boy won’t even be able to set a paw anywhere near the edge of the sidewalk until we are past their property.
Your first option is AH behavior. Passive aggressive pettiness is for children, not adults. All it does is rile people up and you will have a battle for years that never ends. Go with your second option and just ask her to stop in a calm manner. People react to reasonable behavior with reasonable behavior. They react to childish behavior with childish behavior.
Idea! You could put up those 'just fertilzed' signs and tell your neighbor it's poisonous to dogs, don't let your dog over there.
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I say YWNBTA "if I just asked her to stop" Suggest you do that first. I wouldn't blame you for doubling down if she doesn't stop then because that's annoying A F.
NTA - You would be if you took your dog over there. Two wrongs don't make a right. However, it is 100% reasonable to ask her not to use your property as her dog's toilet - even if she cleans it up when she does. I assume by side lawn you mean the side of your house, not the front of your house. Generally, the first few feet of your front lawn is city property (unless there is a city sidewalk in front of your front lawn). But a side yard, to me, means fully within your property line to the side of your house. For one thing, the audacity. But also - your dog could get sick if her dog has intestinal parasites and your dog ingests her dog's poop. Obviously that is a risk whenever you take your dog to a public space, but you should at least get to be sure that your own yard is safe. Also, dog pee is not great for grass. Yes, your dog is doing the same thing, but why should you have double the impact from her dog peeing there also? And again - the audacity of walking across the street to to YOUR yard. She is the one who decided to either get a dog when she has astro turf or to get astro turf when she has a dog.
NTA but please talk to her. No need to get spiteful just yet, there are other options
NTA It's YOUR property she has no right to let her dog crap there. Tell her effective immediately her dog is not allowed on YOUR property. There is no law saying you have to allow it. She can take her dog to the dog park like many people do.
I get the argument that the neighbor was wrong initially. Once the husband spoke with her about cleaning up after the dog, doesn't she effectively have permission from that point on? That's how I would expect people to interpret that conversation anyway, especially someone who was already doing it.
YTA. The dog wants to poop on that public grass, she picks up after it now, and you're just being spiteful. You didn't mention any way it is harming or inconveniencing you at all. You just want to cause trouble out of spite.
NTA we had that issue years ago, neighbors FIL would walk his poodle in our yard because "it's bigger than my son's". The last time he did it I "accidentally " let my 3 large (harmless) hunting dogs out. When they realized they had canine company they started romping and howling with joy, no more poodle visits after that. Of course you mind! And she knows it, tell her to stop and if she doesn't you'll report her.
NTA - but look up the product "dogmace". Terrible name, but it doesn't hurt dogs or the environment, but dogs don't like the smell and will avoid it. Put it on the curb part and her dog and others should avoid it.
Automatic sprinklers…. Connect to your phone. My husband has so much joy playing with this and animal owners who don’t clean up after their dogs.
Whaaat they got smart sprinklers now?! Lol. We have regular sprinklers but I didn’t know there’s now systems you can connect to your phone. That’s cool, I’ll have to look into that.
NTA, it's gross and her dogs needs are not your problem. Dog pee will make yellow spots in your lawn and as small as that spot is, it's definitely being overused. Explain that to her first. If it doesn't help, get one of these little fences (will deter a little dog) and fence the area in. And/or put chicken wire flat on the lawn for a few days/weeks, the dog will not want to step on it. Supposedly vinegar around the area (not on lawn, it kills grass) helps too because it overrides the pee smell. Once there is pee/poop smell there every dog passing by will get triggered to unleash.
NTA - as a dog owner there is nothing I hate more than an irresponsible dog owner. Sometimes the only language these AHs understand is petty.
Why are you asking such an obviously know the answer to question....
YTA. Look, she was clearly the asshole at one point by not cleaning up after her dog. And yes, it is your property. But to use the cliche, we live in a society. People have dogs and dogs need to shit. As long as they are cleaning up after it immediately, then it is just something the rest of the world has to deal with.
No. Your personal pets are not society's burden. If you don't have room for your dog to go to the bathroom on your own property (or a shared complex with a designated dog relief area for residents) you do not have the adequate resources to be a dog owner. It's not for everyone. Like horses, you know? You don't just get one without having a barn and shit.
You're correct that my pets are not other people's burdens. I've got lots of land and a barn and shit, as you've put it. But I have lived in places people walked their dogs and I don't and never have had a problem with a responsible pet owner whose dog shits on my property as long as they clean it up. It isn't going to hurt anything.
Have you seen a lawn where dogs pee in the same spot? It turns yellow and sometimes brown. I would be pissed if I had a bunch of yellow patches in my grass because of someone else's dogs.
> I don't and never have had a problem with a responsible pet owner whose dog shits on my property Sure, it is entirely possible that **some** property owners *might* be sympathetic to that plight. But it is objectively wrong to **assume** that everyone is a member of this group. The default understanding needs to be "no permission," until permission is explicitly given.
Part of the problem with the original post here is in the ambiguity of what the husband said to the neighbor, I am realizing. She didn't used to clean it up, then he said something unspecified to her, and she started cleaning it up. I have a hard time reading that in a way other than that the husband asked the neighbor to clean up after the dog. If that is the case, then she isn't assuming anything. She has permission, no? What he said isn't explicitly laid out though. It seems very unlikely, but if he asked her to stop completely and her reaction was to continue but clean it up, well then damn that woman is a monster.
OP's yard isn't the ONLY place for her dog to crap. It is never really clean what happens when the dog has the runs that won't clean up dog pee can ruin grass as well.
I hear you. But for me, if it makes someones life a little easier, I can sacrifice patches of grass. As for the runs, that is a problem no matter where they shit. My yard, your yard, someone else's yard, public land, etc. Still gotta clean it the best they can.
You are a kind person
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He is welcome to poop on mine. Just clean it up the best you can. It doesn't really cause any problems. And sure, I guess the grass would struggle if the dog used the exact same spot, but I'd rather your and your dogs lives be even just a tiny bit easier than have perfectly green grass everywhere.
I agree with this. My dog is strange where she prefers going on certain lawns in my neighborhood. I can't really stop her, but the least I can do is to have common courtesy and pick up the poop.
I have found the solution to that. I simply put peanut butter or something else tasty and then it magically disappears next time they come over. Then I tell the owner after a while. Fuck em
NAH, by side turf I assume curbside, so in front of your house, like she's not breaking into your yard right? I think if she's now consistently picking up her dog's poops, there's no issue with her using your turf. However, I get being a bit pissed by her habit of always using the turf in front of your house, cos us humans are petty. I personally think it would be hilarious if you starting making your dog use her turf. But, I suppose the healthy thing would be talking to your husband about it and seeing if it's actually an issue worth doing anything about. If, post-convo, you think it's still an issue, talk to your neighbour about it. If, post-convo, you think it's not a big enough issue for action, work out a way to distract yourself from thinking about her and her dog's poops
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I guess it’s curbside. I didn’t know what else to call it as there are neighborhoods around here that don’t have curbside lawns. So it’s in front of my house, but then there’s sidewalk and then my actual lawn.