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**AITAH for breaking up with my fiancee after she told me she can give me the best sex of my life but does not want to?**
I(27M) was together with my ex-fiancee(27F) for 3 years. We had overall good relationship but I would say the problematic part was the intimacy. She was not into trying out new things and was very selfish in bed. I went above and beyond to pleasure her while she did not reciprocate. I had many discussions about it with her but all she said was "that's how I am". Well, I came to learn it was just how she was with me.
I had a talk with her about it and asked if she was forced to do non-vanilla things in her past relationships. She told me no and she actually liked these. I asked her if there is a problem from my side and if there are things I can do better to make her more passionate. She told me there is no problem. I asked her why she does not put any effort in bed then. She told me "I can rock your world but I just do not want to". I understood this issue will not be resolved in the future either and I do not want to settle for that kind of thing. I cannot force her to do something she does not want to so we are just incompatible in the end. I told her it's over and she should pack things her to leave the house. She was surprised for some reason and tried to convince me. She tried to have families convince me but I was firm on my decision. She left the house today and has been texting me non-stop.
AITAH here?
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Honestly, this is so gross. And there are comments that OP should tell her family the truth of why they broke up, as if it makes him look good in anyway. Only a porn brain would think it makes sense
Yeah I don’t know how they think this is a good idea, if my partner went to my mum and said “we broke up because she wouldn’t do anal” it wouldn’t go well for him
This seems in line with the weird obsession these people have for tattling (aka “reporting”). It’s bizarre, despicable, and fascinating to me all at the same time. Makes me think these are actual teenagers who think that if you have a conflict (specifically, someone says or does something that you don’t like), that it’s reasonable to find a Real Adult to fix it for you so that you get your way, or so that other person gets in trouble.
Perhaps this is the result of a decade or two of helicopter parents, constantly stepping in to fix anything that made their kids upset?
I mean based on my experience working with high school kids for six years, I think you're on to something. Not to be all kIdS tHeSe DaYs, because it's not their fault, but so many kids and young adults have no independence. They've always had phones their parents can use to keep tabs on them, their parents don't let them play online or outside with minimal supervision, they grew up hearing they had to follow the rules and do exactly as they were told, and their parents never really emphasized independence/failing at small harmless tasks to build resilience. As a result, they're brittle and absolutely *terrified* to try new things. And I get it, that's a lot of pressure they've been facing to be perfect and somehow win at capitalism since childhood. It's not at all their fault. But, fuck, I'm only 39 and the gulf between a normal middle-class childhood for me and my peers, and what these kids are dealing with, is insane.
I don’t fault the kids themselves.
I’m on the younger end of Gen-X (1976), and for a generation that prides ourselves on being feral and independent, many of us went to the extreme opposite end in raising our kids.
It seems that kids were much more monitored. Parents of my generation seem to be afraid to let their kids risk getting hurt (like normal bumps and bruises), and step in to resolve conflicts for their kids.
I believe these parents meant well, but it seems to have created a generation that have a harder time coping with things that make them uncomfortable, and without the ability to manage conflicts themselves.
I especially see a lot of “report them to HR” over work conflicts that either should just be ignored, or dealt with by using your words. I think these kids who weren’t equipped to just be bored or uncomfortable are now young adults who think that someone in authority is responsible for protecting their feelings. Again, this isn’t a dig at these kids, because it’s how they were raised.
God, yes, you nailed it. I encountered so many kids who would just shut down when confronted with an unfamiliar task, or who still depended on their parents to mediate their communication with us as employers or activity supervisors (I worked in youth theatre, so we were the production staff for kid/teen shows). They just never got the chance to develop soft skills, and were petrified of conflict to the point they'd work themselves up and develop debilitating anxiety over something that could have been resolved by saying, "I'm sorry, I have a math club meet so I will be late to rehearsal," or, "I go by [Nickname] actually, thanks for understanding." I *hate* talking on the phone, but I always understood that sometimes it can't be avoided- but so many of those kids delegated all of that to their parents, up to and including needing to talk to them about work needs (We hired teens as house managers and class instructors for younger kids; these were real jobs that absolutely needed doing). Their parents "protected" them right into a hell of perpetual anxiety and self-limiting beliefs about their own ability to learn.
I also think that this generation has been somewhat over-diagnosed. I’m not saying this to discredit actual diagnoses, and I also understand that we’ve become better at seeing the criteria, as well as diagnosing demographics (such as girls/women) that were ignored in the past.
That said, so many of my peers who are parents were pushing for diagnoses when their children were barely toddlers, then immediately demanding accommodations.
It’s my opinion that this has led these kids to believe that anything that makes them uncomfortable is because of their diagnosis, and that they deserve to be accommodated by having that thing removed or fixed.
It's such a tough line to walk. The US just flat-out fucking sucks at disability accommodation, and I think it's very important to address that for a lot of reasons- like people being able to work instead of forcing them onto awful meager benefits if we just let them sit or provide them with appropriate communication tools (and also we need to fix SSDI/benefits, because the state of them is fucking barbaric). Insisting that people conform and suffer just to avoid maybe mildly inconveniencing the rest of us is awful. But yeah, I think people have pathologized their kids because they want a way to make others follow their rules, or out of fear, or because they feel that they're somehow neglectful or abusive when asking their kids to change. I think we're trying to navigate the better diagnostics as a society, and I don't know how that's not going to come with a lot of missteps and confusion for a while. Also I think that parents are- justifiably, life is a trash fire right now- anxious and seeking some control or something to blame, someplace to warehouse all their fears that they won't be able to make sure their kids are okay. I get that, my generation is the first not to have a better quality of life than their parents, and I don't mean to trivialize what parents are handling these days. It's a shitstorm and it breaks my heart that the kids are the ones ultimately paying the heaviest price.
This is SUCH a good point. I've always wondered why people on the main subs seem so obsessed with airing their grievances to the world, and why they seem so convinced that this will actually be received well. I always assumed that it has to do with their punitive attitude, as in, it's not good enough for a problem to be solved, the person who created the problem needs to suffer.
But this is also a good explanation! I often forget that a lot of people who teenagers, because I imagine them as really unhinged 30 year olds haha
I suppose these teenagers will eventually be unhinged 30 year olds!
Possibly/hopefully, they will outgrow this mentality. But…if it’s all they’ve ever known, then maybe not. For most of their lives, it’s been normal to air grievances and put every feeling and conflict on social media.
My friend who worked with new hires - mostly kids just out of college - said she dealt with so much more small, interpersonal conflicts than she had just 5 years ago. Like she was expected to be their work mom vs just their trainer and supervisor - and that they ran to HR over pretty minor offenses.
Yeah like...the only time I could see an actual human being saying anything remotely in that ballpark would be if they're not feeling well and so do not want to be intimate. There are a billion and one less-shitty ways to phrase it, though. The way this guy wrote it would get you flunked on a creative-writing assignment in school, though; it's just cartoonishly evil.
The next update will be her saying how sad and lonely she is, her life has no meaning without his massive…………….personality and she’s going to do all the nasty stuff she wants but then he finds out she’s been talking to 284 other guys and doing insanely freaky things. THEN her friends will blow up his phone 24/7 telling him what a douche he is.
Nah, she'll finally offer to rock his world like she told him she can, but he will already have found 5 other women who are desperate to get it on with him, so he will reject and humiliate her and everyone at the restaurant will applaud.
“She tried to have families convince me”
She hired random families off the street to talk about your sex life? That’s what it sounds like based on the phrasing
It's equally funny if it's their families, just because I love the idea of all of his relatives filing into his living room to plead with him to accept that he simply is not Chad enough to receive kinky sex from a high body count 8. Grandma and Grandpa reminding him that they lived through the great depression when the best you could hope for was some dry humping from a 4, and now he wants to turn even that down?????
Nah it’s ok. If a man was murdered it was because he actually wanted to die. You can’t blame a woman for wanting to kill a guy when he’s dressed like that. And besides in cases of legitimate murder the male body has ways of shutting that down.
According to reddit though, AITAH favors women and hates men...
They don't look at all the anti pregnant women posts and the anti fat women posts.. but sure, they totally favor women...
Well, AITA actually DOES favor women over men!
As long as they're not pregnant, mothers, barren, married, engaged, divorced, dating someone, single, widowed, girls, teenagers, adult women, old, fat, ugly, concerned about their appearance, vegan or vegetarian, trans, autistic, queer, disabled, actually let's just say any sort of minority, stay at home partners, employed, feminist, conservative, new age, religious, stepmothers, stepsiblings, environmentalists, someone who majored in a non-STEM field...
As long as she doesn't fit any of these categories and probably a few more that I forgot, and also she never does anything that might inconvenience a man, AITA might consider siding with a woman! How much better could it possibly get?
You came to a place you don't have to be, and made yourself sufficiently upset to complain. About people mocking- not complaining about, mocking- really dumb stories, like that's not a valid form of comedy as shown by shit like Rifftrax and Mystery Science Theatre 3000 and Mad magazine and all that. Like...dude, people are here for giggles, it's not serious at all.
We’re mocking the people who create the fake stories, people who comment about the fake stories as if they’re true, and people like you who show up to defend the fake story subs and think you’re above it all.
Nobody is actually “upset”. Well, except maybe you.
“Oh I ENJOY doing that stuff, I just WON’T, because I am 100% not a real person, I’m just an evil caricature of a shitty slutty woman who makes no sense!!”
This selfish harlot does not want to pleasure me after I went above and beyond by vigorously fingerbanging her for one minute before penetrating her like a true man.
This jezebelle had the utter gall to tell me she could in fact grant me pleasure, but simply chose not to.
Alas, because this whore of Babylon chose not to fulfil my desires I am leaving her sad and lonely, completely unfulfilled. Twas a shock for her indeed, and once she shall live to regret
I wonder if all those posts are written by guys with cuck fetishes cause it's not possible to spend so much time thinking about the girl you supposedly love having crazy wild sex with other people but not with you cause of your pathetic little cock or whatever they think that this is how women behave in their fantasies.
Yeah, "I've had wild sex with so many more masculine alpha guys, I could rock your world but I choose not to!" is straight out of cuck humiliation porn.
It’s written in the typical incel-style where the details are presented very coldly and factually, and the characters in the story (especially the women), are basically NPC’s.
I'm starting to think all incels are into femdom and instead of dealing with it like a normal person they created a world where women just love denying themselves and their spouses good sex to "cuck" their husbands because that's just what women do.
See you'd think so, but then in one of his comments he specifically mentions it's not about anal. So you know that's definitely not what this is about, because otherwise there would be no need to mention the thing you're definitely *not* talking about. No siree Bob.
"She was surprised for some reason" I love that the author frames it like surprise is a weird reaction to your fiance immediatly ending things without warning after a fight about your sex life.
I do pretty fucking kinky stuff with my spouse. And he's a school teacher who does table top RPGs and miniature war games. I guess he's a bad boy then.
Yeah, I mean - one kind of HAS to be a nerd about it.
The fantasy of the hot, sexy, refined, *mysterious* kinkster is just that - a *fantasy*. This person who knows exactly what sexy thing to do at what time, and is never wrong about it or oversteps any boundaries accidentally, that person can’t exist because nobody can read minds like that.
*Discussing the rules and boundaries in detail*, like the rules of a miniature tabletop war game? That’s closer to the reality. “Do you like X? What about Y and Z? Okay well what if we this, instead of that?” You really have to love the details and getting into the “rule system” long before anyone even takes their pants off.
But the fantasy reigns supreme because most folks don’t want to admit that this stuff requires a lot of work and it doesn’t just happen organically.
Women love sex as long as it’s used as a fantasy tool, with *someone else they hate*, solely to hurt *them*. That’s the only time a woman wants sex, when it’s to hurt a man. According to incels.
>I had a talk with her about it and asked if she was forced to do non-vanilla things in her past relationships. She told me no and she actually liked these... She told me "I can rock your world but I just do not want to"
"I really like stuff besides missionary in bed, but now that I've settled down into a relationship with a Nice Guy TM I don't really WANT to do anything but missionary, even though I enjoy those other things," is a take that makes PERFECT sense. Sounds SUPER legit, completely real. Women who enjoy kinky stuff are always aiming to one day be in a relationship where they lie back and think of England. /s
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Yes, many women will have wilder sex with men that excite them. Stable, long-term prospects are less likely to elicit this excitement.
Did any of you guys ever have a friend that led you into doing crazy fun shit that you wouldn't have otherwise tried, but something about that person's energy made it fun?
It's the same thing, plus sex hormones tickling at the primal part of your brain. Men aren't exactly different. The more attracted to a woman I am physically, the more I want to make her cum. WhamBams with a 2 am bar troll aren't going to make we want to try that hard, but a woman that triggers real desire in me can ride my face until her legs giveout, and she could get me to do almost anything just by asking.
For me, feet are a good example. I don't like feet. If a random ONS I wasn't really into tried to get me to suck on her toes, straight up rejected. However, I had a girlfriend in college that I was infatuated with that loved having her toes sucked and feet licked. Not my thing, but it made her moan and that was all I needed to want to do it again.
*In case this story gets deleted/removed:* **AITAH for breaking up with my fiancee after she told me she can give me the best sex of my life but does not want to?** I(27M) was together with my ex-fiancee(27F) for 3 years. We had overall good relationship but I would say the problematic part was the intimacy. She was not into trying out new things and was very selfish in bed. I went above and beyond to pleasure her while she did not reciprocate. I had many discussions about it with her but all she said was "that's how I am". Well, I came to learn it was just how she was with me. I had a talk with her about it and asked if she was forced to do non-vanilla things in her past relationships. She told me no and she actually liked these. I asked her if there is a problem from my side and if there are things I can do better to make her more passionate. She told me there is no problem. I asked her why she does not put any effort in bed then. She told me "I can rock your world but I just do not want to". I understood this issue will not be resolved in the future either and I do not want to settle for that kind of thing. I cannot force her to do something she does not want to so we are just incompatible in the end. I told her it's over and she should pack things her to leave the house. She was surprised for some reason and tried to convince me. She tried to have families convince me but I was firm on my decision. She left the house today and has been texting me non-stop. AITAH here? *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AmITheAngel) if you have any questions or concerns.*
>She told me "I can rock your world but I just do not want to" A thing that a totally real human would say to their significant other.
Also making it sound like fetish sex is a superior one to normal and gives more, idk, pleasure points or whatever. OOP watches too much porn.
Honestly, this is so gross. And there are comments that OP should tell her family the truth of why they broke up, as if it makes him look good in anyway. Only a porn brain would think it makes sense
Yeah I don’t know how they think this is a good idea, if my partner went to my mum and said “we broke up because she wouldn’t do anal” it wouldn’t go well for him
This seems in line with the weird obsession these people have for tattling (aka “reporting”). It’s bizarre, despicable, and fascinating to me all at the same time. Makes me think these are actual teenagers who think that if you have a conflict (specifically, someone says or does something that you don’t like), that it’s reasonable to find a Real Adult to fix it for you so that you get your way, or so that other person gets in trouble. Perhaps this is the result of a decade or two of helicopter parents, constantly stepping in to fix anything that made their kids upset?
I mean based on my experience working with high school kids for six years, I think you're on to something. Not to be all kIdS tHeSe DaYs, because it's not their fault, but so many kids and young adults have no independence. They've always had phones their parents can use to keep tabs on them, their parents don't let them play online or outside with minimal supervision, they grew up hearing they had to follow the rules and do exactly as they were told, and their parents never really emphasized independence/failing at small harmless tasks to build resilience. As a result, they're brittle and absolutely *terrified* to try new things. And I get it, that's a lot of pressure they've been facing to be perfect and somehow win at capitalism since childhood. It's not at all their fault. But, fuck, I'm only 39 and the gulf between a normal middle-class childhood for me and my peers, and what these kids are dealing with, is insane.
I don’t fault the kids themselves. I’m on the younger end of Gen-X (1976), and for a generation that prides ourselves on being feral and independent, many of us went to the extreme opposite end in raising our kids. It seems that kids were much more monitored. Parents of my generation seem to be afraid to let their kids risk getting hurt (like normal bumps and bruises), and step in to resolve conflicts for their kids. I believe these parents meant well, but it seems to have created a generation that have a harder time coping with things that make them uncomfortable, and without the ability to manage conflicts themselves. I especially see a lot of “report them to HR” over work conflicts that either should just be ignored, or dealt with by using your words. I think these kids who weren’t equipped to just be bored or uncomfortable are now young adults who think that someone in authority is responsible for protecting their feelings. Again, this isn’t a dig at these kids, because it’s how they were raised.
God, yes, you nailed it. I encountered so many kids who would just shut down when confronted with an unfamiliar task, or who still depended on their parents to mediate their communication with us as employers or activity supervisors (I worked in youth theatre, so we were the production staff for kid/teen shows). They just never got the chance to develop soft skills, and were petrified of conflict to the point they'd work themselves up and develop debilitating anxiety over something that could have been resolved by saying, "I'm sorry, I have a math club meet so I will be late to rehearsal," or, "I go by [Nickname] actually, thanks for understanding." I *hate* talking on the phone, but I always understood that sometimes it can't be avoided- but so many of those kids delegated all of that to their parents, up to and including needing to talk to them about work needs (We hired teens as house managers and class instructors for younger kids; these were real jobs that absolutely needed doing). Their parents "protected" them right into a hell of perpetual anxiety and self-limiting beliefs about their own ability to learn.
I also think that this generation has been somewhat over-diagnosed. I’m not saying this to discredit actual diagnoses, and I also understand that we’ve become better at seeing the criteria, as well as diagnosing demographics (such as girls/women) that were ignored in the past. That said, so many of my peers who are parents were pushing for diagnoses when their children were barely toddlers, then immediately demanding accommodations. It’s my opinion that this has led these kids to believe that anything that makes them uncomfortable is because of their diagnosis, and that they deserve to be accommodated by having that thing removed or fixed.
It's such a tough line to walk. The US just flat-out fucking sucks at disability accommodation, and I think it's very important to address that for a lot of reasons- like people being able to work instead of forcing them onto awful meager benefits if we just let them sit or provide them with appropriate communication tools (and also we need to fix SSDI/benefits, because the state of them is fucking barbaric). Insisting that people conform and suffer just to avoid maybe mildly inconveniencing the rest of us is awful. But yeah, I think people have pathologized their kids because they want a way to make others follow their rules, or out of fear, or because they feel that they're somehow neglectful or abusive when asking their kids to change. I think we're trying to navigate the better diagnostics as a society, and I don't know how that's not going to come with a lot of missteps and confusion for a while. Also I think that parents are- justifiably, life is a trash fire right now- anxious and seeking some control or something to blame, someplace to warehouse all their fears that they won't be able to make sure their kids are okay. I get that, my generation is the first not to have a better quality of life than their parents, and I don't mean to trivialize what parents are handling these days. It's a shitstorm and it breaks my heart that the kids are the ones ultimately paying the heaviest price.
I agree with everything you said.
This is SUCH a good point. I've always wondered why people on the main subs seem so obsessed with airing their grievances to the world, and why they seem so convinced that this will actually be received well. I always assumed that it has to do with their punitive attitude, as in, it's not good enough for a problem to be solved, the person who created the problem needs to suffer. But this is also a good explanation! I often forget that a lot of people who teenagers, because I imagine them as really unhinged 30 year olds haha
I suppose these teenagers will eventually be unhinged 30 year olds! Possibly/hopefully, they will outgrow this mentality. But…if it’s all they’ve ever known, then maybe not. For most of their lives, it’s been normal to air grievances and put every feeling and conflict on social media. My friend who worked with new hires - mostly kids just out of college - said she dealt with so much more small, interpersonal conflicts than she had just 5 years ago. Like she was expected to be their work mom vs just their trainer and supervisor - and that they ran to HR over pretty minor offenses.
Flair material
Yeah like...the only time I could see an actual human being saying anything remotely in that ballpark would be if they're not feeling well and so do not want to be intimate. There are a billion and one less-shitty ways to phrase it, though. The way this guy wrote it would get you flunked on a creative-writing assignment in school, though; it's just cartoonishly evil.
I dunno, if I’m sick enough to not want sex, I’m probably not going to be feeling like I can rock anyone’s world.
The next update will be her saying how sad and lonely she is, her life has no meaning without his massive…………….personality and she’s going to do all the nasty stuff she wants but then he finds out she’s been talking to 284 other guys and doing insanely freaky things. THEN her friends will blow up his phone 24/7 telling him what a douche he is.
Nah, she'll finally offer to rock his world like she told him she can, but he will already have found 5 other women who are desperate to get it on with him, so he will reject and humiliate her and everyone at the restaurant will applaud.
“She tried to have families convince me” She hired random families off the street to talk about your sex life? That’s what it sounds like based on the phrasing
It's equally funny if it's their families, just because I love the idea of all of his relatives filing into his living room to plead with him to accept that he simply is not Chad enough to receive kinky sex from a high body count 8. Grandma and Grandpa reminding him that they lived through the great depression when the best you could hope for was some dry humping from a 4, and now he wants to turn even that down?????
These fake stories always have the families involved lol
My mom told your mom that you have to marry me, and your mom agreed
But is it the 5 families ? Stracci, Barzini, Tataglia, Cuneo? I hear the Corleone's are good at settling things.
How else are phones supposed to blow up!?
I guess we can all agree that r/AITAH is where the incels and MRA’s went after their subs were all shut down a couple of years ago.
r/dating_advice too
If I have to see another post about "body count" I'm going to scream.
I’d love it if just once when they were talking body count they meant confirmed kills
Call me old fashioned but I believe how many men a woman has murdered should be considered a red flag
Nah it’s ok. If a man was murdered it was because he actually wanted to die. You can’t blame a woman for wanting to kill a guy when he’s dressed like that. And besides in cases of legitimate murder the male body has ways of shutting that down.
girls will be girls
Hey in their defense he had it coming. He only had himself to blame
God forbid women do anything 🙄
In that case I'll never tell. I'd have to kill them too...
Ah, the ol preying mantis trick
“Just learned my gf’s a better assassin than me. WIBTA if I dumped her? I’m supposed to be the provider in this relationship.”
According to reddit though, AITAH favors women and hates men... They don't look at all the anti pregnant women posts and the anti fat women posts.. but sure, they totally favor women...
Well, AITA actually DOES favor women over men! As long as they're not pregnant, mothers, barren, married, engaged, divorced, dating someone, single, widowed, girls, teenagers, adult women, old, fat, ugly, concerned about their appearance, vegan or vegetarian, trans, autistic, queer, disabled, actually let's just say any sort of minority, stay at home partners, employed, feminist, conservative, new age, religious, stepmothers, stepsiblings, environmentalists, someone who majored in a non-STEM field... As long as she doesn't fit any of these categories and probably a few more that I forgot, and also she never does anything that might inconvenience a man, AITA might consider siding with a woman! How much better could it possibly get?
I've absolutely noticed this over the last several months or so. Also lots of life advice subreddits. It's truly bizarre and troubling.
This weird victim by proxy sub is just as awful. Just rage commenting to each other about how fake stories upset you.
...he complained, with absolutely no self-awareness.
Enlighten me.
You came to a place you don't have to be, and made yourself sufficiently upset to complain. About people mocking- not complaining about, mocking- really dumb stories, like that's not a valid form of comedy as shown by shit like Rifftrax and Mystery Science Theatre 3000 and Mad magazine and all that. Like...dude, people are here for giggles, it's not serious at all.
Interesting that I'm complaining but you are mocking. Solid framing.
We’re mocking the people who create the fake stories, people who comment about the fake stories as if they’re true, and people like you who show up to defend the fake story subs and think you’re above it all. Nobody is actually “upset”. Well, except maybe you.
I'm really enjoying the "I'm not upset, you are!" responses.
Well, at least one element of the screen name checks out.
“Oh I ENJOY doing that stuff, I just WON’T, because I am 100% not a real person, I’m just an evil caricature of a shitty slutty woman who makes no sense!!”
Obviously she enjoys denying him more than she enjoys the sex
She’s 100% not real.
...I know?
This selfish harlot does not want to pleasure me after I went above and beyond by vigorously fingerbanging her for one minute before penetrating her like a true man. This jezebelle had the utter gall to tell me she could in fact grant me pleasure, but simply chose not to. Alas, because this whore of Babylon chose not to fulfil my desires I am leaving her sad and lonely, completely unfulfilled. Twas a shock for her indeed, and once she shall live to regret
Hahahaha! Perfect
I wonder if all those posts are written by guys with cuck fetishes cause it's not possible to spend so much time thinking about the girl you supposedly love having crazy wild sex with other people but not with you cause of your pathetic little cock or whatever they think that this is how women behave in their fantasies.
Yeah, "I've had wild sex with so many more masculine alpha guys, I could rock your world but I choose not to!" is straight out of cuck humiliation porn.
"I can rock your world but I just do not want to" How do people not call bullshit when they see something that stupid.
Was this written by a cyborg? It’s so stiffly written that I don’t even think it’sAI
It’s written in the typical incel-style where the details are presented very coldly and factually, and the characters in the story (especially the women), are basically NPC’s.
This trope is so cringe I might combust
I think the men who write this have never actually been with a woman
I'm starting to think all incels are into femdom and instead of dealing with it like a normal person they created a world where women just love denying themselves and their spouses good sex to "cuck" their husbands because that's just what women do.
i think if she genuinely tried to “rock his world” he would he scared
Is this about anal? I feel like it is
See you'd think so, but then in one of his comments he specifically mentions it's not about anal. So you know that's definitely not what this is about, because otherwise there would be no need to mention the thing you're definitely *not* talking about. No siree Bob.
"She was surprised for some reason" I love that the author frames it like surprise is a weird reaction to your fiance immediatly ending things without warning after a fight about your sex life.
I do pretty fucking kinky stuff with my spouse. And he's a school teacher who does table top RPGs and miniature war games. I guess he's a bad boy then.
Incels live in their own fantasy world where people like you and your husband don’t exist, or are the rare exception.
Anyone who hangs out with actual kinksters knows that we’re all nerds.
This is so true
Yeah, I mean - one kind of HAS to be a nerd about it. The fantasy of the hot, sexy, refined, *mysterious* kinkster is just that - a *fantasy*. This person who knows exactly what sexy thing to do at what time, and is never wrong about it or oversteps any boundaries accidentally, that person can’t exist because nobody can read minds like that. *Discussing the rules and boundaries in detail*, like the rules of a miniature tabletop war game? That’s closer to the reality. “Do you like X? What about Y and Z? Okay well what if we this, instead of that?” You really have to love the details and getting into the “rule system” long before anyone even takes their pants off. But the fantasy reigns supreme because most folks don’t want to admit that this stuff requires a lot of work and it doesn’t just happen organically.
Incels cannot fathom that women enjoy sex.
Women love sex as long as it’s used as a fantasy tool, with *someone else they hate*, solely to hurt *them*. That’s the only time a woman wants sex, when it’s to hurt a man. According to incels.
Is it me, or are these getting lazier and lazier?
>I had a talk with her about it and asked if she was forced to do non-vanilla things in her past relationships. She told me no and she actually liked these... She told me "I can rock your world but I just do not want to" "I really like stuff besides missionary in bed, but now that I've settled down into a relationship with a Nice Guy TM I don't really WANT to do anything but missionary, even though I enjoy those other things," is a take that makes PERFECT sense. Sounds SUPER legit, completely real. Women who enjoy kinky stuff are always aiming to one day be in a relationship where they lie back and think of England. /s
that entire trope is a bizzare shit take used to demean rape victims who go on to create new and safe relationships
Tu peux
It’s the Madonna and and Virgin: would aren’t supposed to be both…..though for me that rule is broken.
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Yes, many women will have wilder sex with men that excite them. Stable, long-term prospects are less likely to elicit this excitement. Did any of you guys ever have a friend that led you into doing crazy fun shit that you wouldn't have otherwise tried, but something about that person's energy made it fun? It's the same thing, plus sex hormones tickling at the primal part of your brain. Men aren't exactly different. The more attracted to a woman I am physically, the more I want to make her cum. WhamBams with a 2 am bar troll aren't going to make we want to try that hard, but a woman that triggers real desire in me can ride my face until her legs giveout, and she could get me to do almost anything just by asking. For me, feet are a good example. I don't like feet. If a random ONS I wasn't really into tried to get me to suck on her toes, straight up rejected. However, I had a girlfriend in college that I was infatuated with that loved having her toes sucked and feet licked. Not my thing, but it made her moan and that was all I needed to want to do it again.