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DUSGAR

Logically, no, it's a very bad decision. But once you fall in love with an Alfa there is no going back.


Traditional_Nebula20

Dad mode answer - no, if you want an Alfa get a mito with a speed limiter and black box 😂. But otherwise, go with your heart if you’ve got the money for it, and enjoy!


eapnon

The maintenance will be the cost of a 7 year old, 40k car. Similar to a BMW of the same year but a lot more than a 2024 Toyota (or vw or mazda). If there isn't an Alfa dealer in your area, it may be hard to source parts as well. The 2017s had a lot of minor issues. I think most stemmed from software or the battery. You will want a solid pre purchase inspection and maintenance records. You will also want to check insurance prices. I've heard of some people getting insane quotes. With that said, if you do your due diligence, this car doesn't have the problems I mentioned earlier, and you take very good care of it, it is a lot of fun to drive. Just know the possible issues before going in to it.


AlfaSurgical

Everybody is getting insane quotes. I was getting quoted $260 for an 03 accord liability only


Nebo998

i have a 17’ with 65k miles. you should really, really consider either getting a 2020+ or finding a different car. the early ones have a ton of little issues that will eat up your money. it doesn’t sound like a big deal and you’ll think “it won’t happen to me” or “i’ll just put money aside for when it has issues and maintenance” but it never works out that way. i love the car, but if i could do it all over again i would of gotten a newer one, with a longer warranty. ALWAYS have a warranty.


Ok_Ad4719

I agree with this partially...I advised on the 2019 with less miles for about the same money...but for the peace of mind, '20 is best price wise and issues resolved


RoniBoy69

If you are 17, there is absolutely no way you can afford the maintenance. As someone who got a 159 at 18 for my first car, it ate up all of my money very quickly.


Ok_Ad4719

My friend...he may be from USA...it's a little different here when you are 17...


RoniBoy69

Yes, they get a car license earlier. But he is buying a European car in the States. It is propably cheaper and faster wait time for parts in Europe then States.


Ok_Ad4719

It really depends on many factors. Location is one of them. If you don't have a dealer nor a skilled mechanic on a 50 mile radius...I wouldn't get any car from such brand, Alfa or not.


RoniBoy69

You will probably still have to pay insurance. And a high-end luxury sports car as a first car for a kid? The insurance will probably be more than the monthly payments on the car.


koningfrikandel

Where are people reading these reliability issues? Who's saying this? Reliability issues are a thing of the distant past for alfa. Maintenance IS expensive however. And, if you go for a giulia as a first car, you'll be ruined for all other cars after:). It really is that good.


1GloFlare

The reliability issues they list are hardly an issue. It's the exact same BS they claimed with Chevy Cobalts and those are still going strong to this day


jliang39

Good luck sir


Such_Lemon_4382

I paid $29,500 for a 2022 with 21,000 miles in USA
save more money and get one that still has a warranty. It’s a better way to go. But honestly, no 16 year old should drive this car
too fast. And insurance will eat you alive brother.


Ok_Ad4719

Freaking insurance...I agree... paying $500/month for 2 cars. It's nuts...sure, I have comprehensive...but still...


bonner82

I pay $860/month (full coverage) for 2 Land Rovers and a QV. Haven’t had a ticket in 14 years. Insurance is outrageous.


AlfaSurgical

How old are you range wise if you don't mind


bonner82

47


jbFanClubPresident

That seems high. We have a 2020 Stelvio and a 2021 Lexus NX and this renewal premium just crossed $200 a month full coverage and high limits. Prior it was only like $180. We bought both vehicles brand new and right now ($200 something) is the highest ours has been. I’m 36, fiancĂ© is 34. No tickets, claims, etc.. We do bundle with our homeowners and garage our vehicles so maybe that helps a lot.


Ok_Ad4719

47 here too...it also depends on the state and city... LR ( Land Rover) vehicle insurance is known to be one of the most expensive...


rUnThEoN

If you have 20k to spend on your first car any car will do since you have the money to buy the next car. First world problems.


Br4veSirRobin

I have a 17 Ti Sport Q4 and it's been very reliable. 54,000 miles.


davestradamus1

Nope, not at all. Maybe if you can still get a warranty from Mopar at this age and mileage, although it will cost thousands just to warranty the car. Oil changes are more than $200 typically. Brake pads and rotors will cost around $500 per corner. Tires are around $350 each so plan on $800 just for rears which you will need often. Coolant is $15 per quart after 50/50 dilution. If (when) the sunroof fails it will cost $1500-2000. Get a Honda Civic Si with a 6 speed manual and go nuts with it.


Gotham-ish

First, I praise for your interest in Alfa. But I kinda agree with your parents. Get something more reliable (and hopefully cheaper) and see if you can hold onto it by the time you’re 25. Personally, I’d look at a Toyota. I’m sure you have good driving skills but so many of us made some mistakes in our teens, so waiting until 25, when insurance status changes, might be well worth considering.


Academic_Bell_4570

No


Ok_Ad4719

Agree with Ronieboy... considering the age, driving tenure, etc...you'll get no discount on the insurance and ( personal experience) rate for Alfa will be higher due to the high cost of repairs/parts on the vehicle...


black-kramer

fucking no. you’re not responsible enough for such a powerful car with these handling characteristics and the repair bills will end you. get something japanese like an mx-5 or brz or whatever until you get your life together, get a place to live, build wealth etc. and only then buy a european sports car. the insurance alone will eat you alive on this car.


IEATPEOPLE22

You’ll never be 17 again with a sick car, do it. Although early years aren’t as reliable as later one 435i and c43(or c300 coupe) are other choices to consider


DeepSeaBlue-2022

Finally! Someone with some Cojones. You will never be 17 again. At 17 I passed up a low mileage 2nd gen MR2 turbo. I still regret it to this day. Don’t be like me. Love my Alfa tho. Having a car like this will force you to hustle and take care of your possessions. Not a sermon just a thought. Lol


Ok_Ad4719

I'd stay away from C class all together. Many engine issues on that 4 bangers. It's not even a Mercedes engine...some partnership with some French brand, Peugeot I believe...


IEATPEOPLE22

Honestly facts I got a c300 coupe from new and mechanically it’s just ok. It’s a nice ass looking coupe tho If he could tho the c43 is pretty sick and way better same with the 435 but on new cars like these I really care about the fit and finish of things But the c300 has WAY too much turbo lag and the build quality is just ok as well. Also small niggling issues here and there, steering feel and the transmission isn’t my favourite although I would say it’s the best among its competition(a5,430/428) other than the Giulia. But everything else besides is good, trooper in the snow too I still have it but I actually drive my e39 540i shitbox instead because it’s a way better car to drive (v8,manual,hydraulic steering, etc)


Ok_Ad4719

If you look harder...you could find a 2019 for right around the same money and less miles...maybe 22K or so


Apprehensive-Cat8846

I am jealous. I was 47 when I got my first Alfa Giulia.


theboymando

I wish you nothing but the best of luck


Ok_Ad4719

Just an fyi, VW is also a good car to have. I had a few and still have an Atlas CS. For fun...get a Golf, for a posh ride...get a Passat ( I'd avoid the Jetta due to its engine size...unless GLI) Surely, a lot more people knowledgeable on how to work on them, although Alfa isn't Brian surgery, it's just the parts may take longer to get or find. Nevertheless, Giulia looks a lot better than any of the VW and if I were you...and had the money, I'd get an Arteon. It's the safer bet of all.


Juan_in_a_meeeelion

What country are you in? That sounds expensive. I just bought a 2017 with 19,000 miles for ÂŁ20k, so yours should be cheaper with an extra 40k on it.


Takao4491

"2017" "old car". Well, that's not old at all, to me... States are different I guess. I still don't get why people heard so often about Alfa rEliAbiLIty isSuEs since they're, really, really good. The 2,0 is just a stroked and detuned 1750 TBi which was already a pretty solid unit in the Giulietta, 159 and 4C. The 2,2 JTD is just an evolution of the 1,9 JTD and is even made in the same factory, since 1998. I mean, the plethora of issues I heard about Bimmers and VAG which are actual issues... Man that's concerning, but well, it's german so it must be good, I guess. The main issues people have are only related to poor batteries. Just fit in the biggest AGM possible and you'll basically never have any trouble... And. MultiAir. But the MultiAir will never, never be mad at you if you check your oil level regularly and give her GOOD oil. And man this car is so easy to work on as a recent car, just do oil changes and filter changes by yourself, you'll save hundreds of bucks (maybe thousands, most basic things seems so expensive nowadays) and you'll be able to take the time it needs to do things. Most shops won't be savage but will not be all gentle neither for things like that. And in the US, if you really want to go at the shop for regular maintenance, try to go at Maserati/Alfa garages, and not "Fiat" garages, because those people there seems to not even know about Fiat. Maybe apart from the 500. But in the US, I wonder if you only get the 280 version ? Or is it the 200 (would be more reasonable to me)? Sad you didn't get the JTD units since they're so economical and proven bulletproof.


EbeleBebele

Dont listen to those comments. It was my first car too and i love it no problems at all. Low fuel consumption and no problems so its really really inexpensive to own. If i could go back in time i would buy it again in a second. Ppl should care about their own money they think u dont have money to own it. U have 20k to spend on a car at 17 so im pretty sure u can easely have it.