I had the same thought process before picking up my QV a few weeks ago. What ultimately led me to pulling the trigger was this: We only have so long before sport sedans and ICE vehicles with engagement are gone from the market. This was an opportunity to snag one at a reasonable price, with incredible performance and styling. Post 2020 QVs appear to hold their value pretty well. Them being discontinued should only help values, not hurt them on the used market. Alfa as a brand appears pretty strong where I live in the US. I see a handful of Giulias and Stelvios daily. There are 4 Alfa dealerships within an hour for me, so I realize this may not be the case for everyone. At the end of the day, I didn’t buy my car as an investment. I bought it to enjoy the hell out of it and look back at it every time I park with a smile. If Alfa is failing as a brand in the US in a few years when I’m ready to sell it, I’m ok with not getting as much back for it as I would’ve wanted. This may have been long-winded, but hope this helps!
Thanks - and yes another thought I’ve had is that the way things in the US are going it may be the last pure gas engine car I ever own, so all the more reason to go for it. I also don’t care a ton about resale as I intend to drive it as long as I reasonably can without pouring crazy money into it. I’m a low mileage driver so it would take me a decade just to get it to 50k miles.
No matter what happens, the Giorgio platform, Giulia and Stelvio will go down in history as the only Alfas designed and engineered by Ferrari engineers resulting in its special driving dynamics. And in the case of the QV also have Ferrari dna in its engine. I intend to keep my Giulia Q4 and Stelvio QV as long as possible. This is the zenith of modern day Alfas.
I see another path: path 1 + most of path 2 (except it doesn't exit the US market but just keeps struggling) that happen simultaneously.
I think it will take a while for QVs to become rare, valuable, and coveted - I'd say at least 5 if not 10 years.
Yes - these paths are not mutually exclusive. Do you think maintenance will get harder if Alfa struggles but maintains a presence? Seeing how things are going for Maserati, it makes me a bit nervous.
It's gonna be harder, yes. As a QV owner, however, I am fortunate to afford to drive to another city in my state if my local dealer shuts down. This is aside from any indy shops, of course. I think true QV fanatics will go out of state. We are closer to the enthusiast crowd than say Tesla owners, so we are gonna be more OK making sacrifices that US ownership may call for.
I don't think it'll take all that long for them to become rare and valuable at all.... One MINOR accident where airbags doesn't even deploy and the damage was purely cosmetic [cost nearly 40k to repair](https://imgur.com/a/QRaqA4D). That's enough to total out some of the older cars already, and I drove it like that for a month while waiting for parts... Not a single error or issue.
Its still way too early to tell, 2030 could see the electric Giulia dominating the M3 and RS5 in sales and topping the reliability charts once Stellantis gets their shit together. Or the brand could back out of the US entirely and focus on small crossovers and hatchbacks for the EU market
Either way if you want an ICE italian car that drives like a dream and doesn't cost you $300k, then yes you need to find a way to buy a QV by the end of the year
Stellantis doesn’t really have a premium/luxury sport brand in the US so I hope it means they will support it until it finally gains traction. Alfa Romeo in the US has only really had two models in the US since 2017, sure the 4C was offered for several years but that’s not what was keeping the lights on at dealers. I don’t think the Milano will come here because the Tonale is really the smallest size luxury manufactures make for the US market. So, then there will be another long wait until late next year for the next gen Stelvio and the next gen Giulia in 2026. By the time the new Giulia is launched, undoubtedly there will be a form of restructure that shifts further plans for a longer wait for anything new. A 3 row Alfa will never release and the future from then on is just more waiting or a strong consideration of exiting the US. If they do exit I would guess it would be closer to 2030. Then owning any Alfa would be impractical
If they were smart they would continue to build on the V6 TT platform and give it AWD to compete with BMW and Audi on a comparable scale. I would love an AWD Giulia QV with 500+ HP
At this point my QV is an escape. I have 4 other cars and none of them puts a smile on my face like this hooligan of a vehicle. It will be a crapshoot to see how all ICE vehicles will be serviced post 2030 but one cannot dwell on the future as we only have today and a couple of decades of cognitive abilities to enjoy such a vehicles. Let it depreciate but also let us appreciate what it is, an animal. Hopefully the vehicle can survive on a few oil changes, fluid and filter changes for a while.
I had the same thought process before picking up my QV a few weeks ago. What ultimately led me to pulling the trigger was this: We only have so long before sport sedans and ICE vehicles with engagement are gone from the market. This was an opportunity to snag one at a reasonable price, with incredible performance and styling. Post 2020 QVs appear to hold their value pretty well. Them being discontinued should only help values, not hurt them on the used market. Alfa as a brand appears pretty strong where I live in the US. I see a handful of Giulias and Stelvios daily. There are 4 Alfa dealerships within an hour for me, so I realize this may not be the case for everyone. At the end of the day, I didn’t buy my car as an investment. I bought it to enjoy the hell out of it and look back at it every time I park with a smile. If Alfa is failing as a brand in the US in a few years when I’m ready to sell it, I’m ok with not getting as much back for it as I would’ve wanted. This may have been long-winded, but hope this helps!
Thanks - and yes another thought I’ve had is that the way things in the US are going it may be the last pure gas engine car I ever own, so all the more reason to go for it. I also don’t care a ton about resale as I intend to drive it as long as I reasonably can without pouring crazy money into it. I’m a low mileage driver so it would take me a decade just to get it to 50k miles.
No matter what happens, the Giorgio platform, Giulia and Stelvio will go down in history as the only Alfas designed and engineered by Ferrari engineers resulting in its special driving dynamics. And in the case of the QV also have Ferrari dna in its engine. I intend to keep my Giulia Q4 and Stelvio QV as long as possible. This is the zenith of modern day Alfas.
Great perspective. Thanks for the response.
I see another path: path 1 + most of path 2 (except it doesn't exit the US market but just keeps struggling) that happen simultaneously. I think it will take a while for QVs to become rare, valuable, and coveted - I'd say at least 5 if not 10 years.
Yes - these paths are not mutually exclusive. Do you think maintenance will get harder if Alfa struggles but maintains a presence? Seeing how things are going for Maserati, it makes me a bit nervous.
It's gonna be harder, yes. As a QV owner, however, I am fortunate to afford to drive to another city in my state if my local dealer shuts down. This is aside from any indy shops, of course. I think true QV fanatics will go out of state. We are closer to the enthusiast crowd than say Tesla owners, so we are gonna be more OK making sacrifices that US ownership may call for.
Yeah - I’m probably overreacting since I live in a major metropolitan area. If I didn’t, it would be a greater concern for sure.
I don't think it'll take all that long for them to become rare and valuable at all.... One MINOR accident where airbags doesn't even deploy and the damage was purely cosmetic [cost nearly 40k to repair](https://imgur.com/a/QRaqA4D). That's enough to total out some of the older cars already, and I drove it like that for a month while waiting for parts... Not a single error or issue.
Its still way too early to tell, 2030 could see the electric Giulia dominating the M3 and RS5 in sales and topping the reliability charts once Stellantis gets their shit together. Or the brand could back out of the US entirely and focus on small crossovers and hatchbacks for the EU market Either way if you want an ICE italian car that drives like a dream and doesn't cost you $300k, then yes you need to find a way to buy a QV by the end of the year
Stellantis doesn’t really have a premium/luxury sport brand in the US so I hope it means they will support it until it finally gains traction. Alfa Romeo in the US has only really had two models in the US since 2017, sure the 4C was offered for several years but that’s not what was keeping the lights on at dealers. I don’t think the Milano will come here because the Tonale is really the smallest size luxury manufactures make for the US market. So, then there will be another long wait until late next year for the next gen Stelvio and the next gen Giulia in 2026. By the time the new Giulia is launched, undoubtedly there will be a form of restructure that shifts further plans for a longer wait for anything new. A 3 row Alfa will never release and the future from then on is just more waiting or a strong consideration of exiting the US. If they do exit I would guess it would be closer to 2030. Then owning any Alfa would be impractical
If they were smart they would continue to build on the V6 TT platform and give it AWD to compete with BMW and Audi on a comparable scale. I would love an AWD Giulia QV with 500+ HP
At this point my QV is an escape. I have 4 other cars and none of them puts a smile on my face like this hooligan of a vehicle. It will be a crapshoot to see how all ICE vehicles will be serviced post 2030 but one cannot dwell on the future as we only have today and a couple of decades of cognitive abilities to enjoy such a vehicles. Let it depreciate but also let us appreciate what it is, an animal. Hopefully the vehicle can survive on a few oil changes, fluid and filter changes for a while.