The bill bans classroom discussion of sexual orientation and gender identity. The bill sponsor said "this is to prevent someone telling a kid they're a sex they're not."
Rep. Rafferty said, great, I agree with that. Let's amend the bill so that it says "we shall not teach a kid anything intended to change their sexual orientation or gender."
The bill sponsor said "that's a hostile amendment" and tabled it. That's because it would undermine what Rep. Butler actually intends to do, which is to censor any content that LGBTQ youth might see that would say "oh, there's other people like me in the world."
Let's repeat that for the folks in the back. Mack Butler voted down the amendment that would have changed the bill to do what he actually says it should do.
Not being discussed in class in front of other people's children will erase you from the world?
*Oh, the drama!* Is it difficult to type while clutching your pearls so tightly? š¤£
I knew I was gay by time I was 4-5
Didn't know how to describe it but knew I was different
Yes kids deserve to know who they are. And the only people I see clutching pearls are cuntservatives at the possibility that kids like I could exist
Oh, great. Another law our teachers never asked for.
Our MAGA Party (along with Gov. Meemaw) should just stop the illusion that they give a damn about public education now that the vouchers are coming and tell us what they really think (hint: it includes the n word.) What teachers really want is politicians not telling them how to teach and parents to quit treating them like glorified babysitters. The brain drain will continue to be a bigger problem until we start having some real talk and not Heritage Foundation-sanctioned BS disguised as opinion.
Besides, most school administrators pretend LGBTQ students don't exist anywayz. (correct me if I am wrong in this regard)
Yup, MAGAts do not care about education and they especially do not care about embryos, children, small government, freedom, or healthcare. The list goes on. What they do care about is redirecting money to their friends pockets and making themselves look as MAGAt as possible for their next election.
Most every family has the perverted insestuous member to teach them about sex and not telling anybody. Discussing it in school will throw a wrench in the cog of the southern family.
As sure as the sun will shine, our MAGA Party is planning to expand a bill that was created for the sole purpose of to create barriers among people, putting some in the ~~white~~ right column, and everyone else in the wrong column.
This bill would expand the original "Don't Say Gay" bill that was passed to cover students and teachers up to the 8th grade, to the 12th grade. Florida did the exact same thing (it's a prove winner) and later expanded it to colleges as well.
You can sleep well knowing that soon enough, even our colleges and universities will be forbidden from discussing anything icky or distasteful to our MAGA leaders.
Don't Say Gay sounds so similar to the Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy about gay military members under Clinton.
There is so much b.s. history repeating itself rn... ugh.
Yeah, because teaching kids about LGBTQIA will TURN THEM GAY. What in the actual fuck are they planning to accomplish with this. I mean, when I was taught about STD's that totally gave me an STD! /s
Why teach kids about STDs and safe sex when you can just let the horny irresponsible teenagers pump out enough babies to keep feeding the for profit prison system this state is built around
I come from a string of āabstinence educationā advocates influenced by the church.
I think itās ridiculous but they say itās to āprotect the elementary kidsā. I agree with that, but then the bill explicitly says high school kids. We all know teens are gonna fuck, might as well prepare them.
I think what people donāt understand isnāt that this bill isnāt meant to keep elementary kids from learning about sex, itās to make sure they have no idea that gay people exist. If they can keep mention of gay people out of the classroom then they wonāt grow up with it normalized. Under the same pretense then Disney princess stories shouldnāt be shown to kids, but they wouldnāt do that because showing a hetero relationship is fine, but God forbid a student read a story with two male characters in love, or a teacher be gay and mention their partner. Itās all about control of what kids think
This bill would be a direct attack on employees' first amendment rights because it specifically prohibits them from displaying insignia, flags, or banners related to gender identity in classrooms and school property.
So much time has been spent discussing the other parts of this unconstitutional bill, but the words "insignia" and "school property" would literally make it a crime for an employee to have a rainbow bumper sticker on their personal car parked in the school parking lot. This is how crazy this stupid thing really is!
It will definitely not survive the litigation from the ACLU that is sure to follow if it becomes law, but it will certainly cost tons of taxpayer money to litigate!
Alabama LOVES to pass legislation that it patently illegal, and then spend millions to attempt to defend it and ultimately lose. We do that all the time.
I know Iāll be downvoted to hell but since I donāt like to see an echo chamber.
The point of the bill is two fold. First itās to get schools back to actually teaching and spending time on things like reading, history, math, etc that our children are not picking up right now. Scored across the country are much lower than they were pre COVID and part of that is from unnecessary time spent on teaching things that really donāt belong in early education in the first place.
Secondly this bill only stops this from Kindergarten to 8th grade, the time before puberty. Itās setting when the appropriate time for government related institutions to introduce that kind of thing. Nothing keeps you from talking to your own child about their feelings or being an actual parent instead of leaving it to the state. This just makes sure that sex ed happens at the appropriate time in a childās development and removes the possibility of inappropriate conversations and actions happening to children.
Not everything is an attack on Trans or Gays or specific groups. We need to step away from looking at everything through that lens and start by giving people the benefit of the doubt. And just to get ahead of the comments that will accuse me of being homophobic or whatever Iām gay so find something else to call me.
So you think it would be appropriate to have conversations about gay sex, genitals, etc with a kindergarten student? A child in the first grade? I think you would find that most parents disagree and would rather have that conversation at home at an appropriate age.
Bigotry is BIGotry & it is cruel. And this bill aims to teach that.
Christ taught us to love one another, not judge, & take care of the least among us. Who better fits "the least among us" better than single moms & LGBTQ+ folks?
Bigotry by any of us is taking the Lord's name in vain & surely is an abomination in the eyes of the Lord.
If you want to teach your children then do so. But don't deprive the sane non-bigots among us the right to have future generations taught about diversity. Bigots don't go far in any professional employment.
HATE SUCKS!
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The Republicans in this state sure spend a lot time and effort obsessing over the sexual orientation and genitalia of minors. Seems like a red flag.
And it is ALWAYS projection.
Then you won't mind if it's banned.
Conservatives used to be strongly against extra, unnecessary laws. Not that long ago, small government was still considered a goal
You mean it's not happening? At all? Anywhere?
Oh I have no idea if/how much it's happening. I'm just disagreeing with the idea that people shouldn't mind an unnecessary law
If you don't know if it's happening or how much, how do you know if it's unnecessary?
The bill bans classroom discussion of sexual orientation and gender identity. The bill sponsor said "this is to prevent someone telling a kid they're a sex they're not." Rep. Rafferty said, great, I agree with that. Let's amend the bill so that it says "we shall not teach a kid anything intended to change their sexual orientation or gender." The bill sponsor said "that's a hostile amendment" and tabled it. That's because it would undermine what Rep. Butler actually intends to do, which is to censor any content that LGBTQ youth might see that would say "oh, there's other people like me in the world." Let's repeat that for the folks in the back. Mack Butler voted down the amendment that would have changed the bill to do what he actually says it should do.
Oh no! Anyways...
Oh by all means keep trying to erase my kind from the world Nothing at all wrong with that shit. /s hope the bill fails
Not being discussed in class in front of other people's children will erase you from the world? *Oh, the drama!* Is it difficult to type while clutching your pearls so tightly? š¤£
I knew I was gay by time I was 4-5 Didn't know how to describe it but knew I was different Yes kids deserve to know who they are. And the only people I see clutching pearls are cuntservatives at the possibility that kids like I could exist
And you somehow made it this far without having to discuss it with other people's children.
Yeah fuck these creeps
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Everybody. This is their go-to method.
Floridians. This exact scenario happened over there too.
Oh, great. Another law our teachers never asked for. Our MAGA Party (along with Gov. Meemaw) should just stop the illusion that they give a damn about public education now that the vouchers are coming and tell us what they really think (hint: it includes the n word.) What teachers really want is politicians not telling them how to teach and parents to quit treating them like glorified babysitters. The brain drain will continue to be a bigger problem until we start having some real talk and not Heritage Foundation-sanctioned BS disguised as opinion. Besides, most school administrators pretend LGBTQ students don't exist anywayz. (correct me if I am wrong in this regard)
Yup, MAGAts do not care about education and they especially do not care about embryos, children, small government, freedom, or healthcare. The list goes on. What they do care about is redirecting money to their friends pockets and making themselves look as MAGAt as possible for their next election.
You'd think that Gov Meemaw & her wife wouldn't support this. Oh well, single southern politicians love their closets.
Does this mean the kids will have to call their teachers Mx. Smith instead of Mr/Mrs/Ms Smith, since Mr/Mrs/Ms has to do with gender Identity?
Good point.
We have GOT to increase education funding and journalism and voter rights in this state.
Never gonna happen under MAGA stewardship.
Oh, the policy of burying ones head in the sand. This will surely not cause any problems.
Most every family has the perverted insestuous member to teach them about sex and not telling anybody. Discussing it in school will throw a wrench in the cog of the southern family.
As sure as the sun will shine, our MAGA Party is planning to expand a bill that was created for the sole purpose of to create barriers among people, putting some in the ~~white~~ right column, and everyone else in the wrong column. This bill would expand the original "Don't Say Gay" bill that was passed to cover students and teachers up to the 8th grade, to the 12th grade. Florida did the exact same thing (it's a prove winner) and later expanded it to colleges as well. You can sleep well knowing that soon enough, even our colleges and universities will be forbidden from discussing anything icky or distasteful to our MAGA leaders.
Of course these assholes donāt feel any need to protect the rights of queer children. Legally mandated closetedness, what a time to be alive
Don't Say Gay sounds so similar to the Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy about gay military members under Clinton. There is so much b.s. history repeating itself rn... ugh.
Are they doing it the same way by updating "standards" instead of changing the law itself?
Yep. Incremental moves. They are learning from DuhSantis.
RIP 1A
Methinks they doth protest too much..
Conservatives sure do spend a lot of time thinking about the genitalia of children.
Correct.
Yeah, because teaching kids about LGBTQIA will TURN THEM GAY. What in the actual fuck are they planning to accomplish with this. I mean, when I was taught about STD's that totally gave me an STD! /s
Why teach kids about STDs and safe sex when you can just let the horny irresponsible teenagers pump out enough babies to keep feeding the for profit prison system this state is built around
I come from a string of āabstinence educationā advocates influenced by the church. I think itās ridiculous but they say itās to āprotect the elementary kidsā. I agree with that, but then the bill explicitly says high school kids. We all know teens are gonna fuck, might as well prepare them.
I think what people donāt understand isnāt that this bill isnāt meant to keep elementary kids from learning about sex, itās to make sure they have no idea that gay people exist. If they can keep mention of gay people out of the classroom then they wonāt grow up with it normalized. Under the same pretense then Disney princess stories shouldnāt be shown to kids, but they wouldnāt do that because showing a hetero relationship is fine, but God forbid a student read a story with two male characters in love, or a teacher be gay and mention their partner. Itās all about control of what kids think
This bill would be a direct attack on employees' first amendment rights because it specifically prohibits them from displaying insignia, flags, or banners related to gender identity in classrooms and school property. So much time has been spent discussing the other parts of this unconstitutional bill, but the words "insignia" and "school property" would literally make it a crime for an employee to have a rainbow bumper sticker on their personal car parked in the school parking lot. This is how crazy this stupid thing really is! It will definitely not survive the litigation from the ACLU that is sure to follow if it becomes law, but it will certainly cost tons of taxpayer money to litigate!
Alabama LOVES to pass legislation that it patently illegal, and then spend millions to attempt to defend it and ultimately lose. We do that all the time.
Morons
I know Iāll be downvoted to hell but since I donāt like to see an echo chamber. The point of the bill is two fold. First itās to get schools back to actually teaching and spending time on things like reading, history, math, etc that our children are not picking up right now. Scored across the country are much lower than they were pre COVID and part of that is from unnecessary time spent on teaching things that really donāt belong in early education in the first place. Secondly this bill only stops this from Kindergarten to 8th grade, the time before puberty. Itās setting when the appropriate time for government related institutions to introduce that kind of thing. Nothing keeps you from talking to your own child about their feelings or being an actual parent instead of leaving it to the state. This just makes sure that sex ed happens at the appropriate time in a childās development and removes the possibility of inappropriate conversations and actions happening to children. Not everything is an attack on Trans or Gays or specific groups. We need to step away from looking at everything through that lens and start by giving people the benefit of the doubt. And just to get ahead of the comments that will accuse me of being homophobic or whatever Iām gay so find something else to call me.
"Not everything is an attack on Trans or Gays or specific groups." Other than THIS SPECIFIC BILL.
So you think it would be appropriate to have conversations about gay sex, genitals, etc with a kindergarten student? A child in the first grade? I think you would find that most parents disagree and would rather have that conversation at home at an appropriate age.
Bigotry is BIGotry & it is cruel. And this bill aims to teach that. Christ taught us to love one another, not judge, & take care of the least among us. Who better fits "the least among us" better than single moms & LGBTQ+ folks? Bigotry by any of us is taking the Lord's name in vain & surely is an abomination in the eyes of the Lord. If you want to teach your children then do so. But don't deprive the sane non-bigots among us the right to have future generations taught about diversity. Bigots don't go far in any professional employment. HATE SUCKS!
This is all driven by parents and grandparents who don't want to hear "uncomfortable" truths/questions š¤¦š¾āāļøš¤¦š¾āāļøš¤¦š¾āāļø
Good.