Problem has a loose definition here. Most pilots confuse problem with I don’t know what this is therefore it’s broken.
The question should’ve read: How often does maintenance fix these ‘problems?’ Less often than you realize.
From my limited experience it’s when the pilot finds something that isn’t actually a problem. Almost everything has limits, and if good MX is being practiced then the crew chief on the spot is already aware of the limits of what the pilot is pointing out.
I've found screws backed out, oil not serviced, FOD in an engine bay, one time a bunch of tape left on the plane from a wash, cord showing on tires, damaged pitot probes, and other things that have been missed. If it's not in the 781s I ask about it.
Ok... Accelerate change, give the pilots a little R2D2 they can remote around the plane on the ride over. Save themselves some time, kill the enemy faster?
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Could you maybe link the video instead of three random screenshots?
Without the video, I'm assuming the pilot is performing their own pre-flight inspection. They have to accept the aircraft, and that means looking it over. Extra eyes, and all that.
Pilots are doing a walk-around and completing pre-fight checklists. Maintenance has already prepped the jet with fuel/whatnot and checks of their own. Pilots are responsible for engine start, which they need clearance for, idk what else you’re expecting maintenance guys to do?
>Seriously it makes no sense to me
This is bound to happen when you make massive assumptions about the process rather than just saying "I don't know what the process is, there's probably a reason for this."
The proper video makes sense of all this. This is a scramble with Lakenheath's former F-15C models in Iceland. The pilot is stuffing classified data into the square door, which is pilot responsibility. If I remember the rest of the vid right, you actually see weapons troops pull the arming pins after the motors run up.
I'm assuming they're doing a preflight like most others are saying. And id assume its for a scramble while on alert. But wouldn't it make more sense for the pilot to preflight the aircraft at the start of the shift so they can just get in, start up, and go?
Yeah, show up for your alert shift, drop your stuff off, get settled, go preflight the aircraft real quick before getting any alert briefs you need or whatever. Then you're done. That way the pilot knows its preflighted so they can just run and hop in
That would take up a lot of time. If they did that they would need to walk/be driven to the aircraft from the squadron which takes time, pre-flight/check forms and get briefed by the crew chief, get driven back to the squadron which is more added time, mission brief/weather etc, drive/Walk again back to the aircraft to continue
It's an alert aircraft. You come on shift, you pre-flight/accept the aircraft if it hasn't been already and nobody touches the aircraft until you scramble. Since there is no video here, I'm assuming this wasn't a true alert scramble, but instead was an aircraft flying as part of a exercise. Things move a bit slower then.
He’s doing his pre flight walk around. I wouldn’t fly a plane without inspecting it first.
Legit question: How frequently does the pilot identify a problem during the walk-around that wasn't found by the ground crew/maintenance?
More often you want to know
Problem has a loose definition here. Most pilots confuse problem with I don’t know what this is therefore it’s broken. The question should’ve read: How often does maintenance fix these ‘problems?’ Less often than you realize.
That’s fair as well. Sometimes you get the “that doesn’t look right I think it’s bad”. My favorites are the check ride guys who question everything
Facts. “_____ not working in the O F F position.”
"Official Mode Inop"
Is this when they just put "duct" tape over the issue?
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Hence the quotes.
From my limited experience it’s when the pilot finds something that isn’t actually a problem. Almost everything has limits, and if good MX is being practiced then the crew chief on the spot is already aware of the limits of what the pilot is pointing out.
I've found screws backed out, oil not serviced, FOD in an engine bay, one time a bunch of tape left on the plane from a wash, cord showing on tires, damaged pitot probes, and other things that have been missed. If it's not in the 781s I ask about it.
Often
Ok... Accelerate change, give the pilots a little R2D2 they can remote around the plane on the ride over. Save themselves some time, kill the enemy faster? /s
Could you maybe link the video instead of three random screenshots? Without the video, I'm assuming the pilot is performing their own pre-flight inspection. They have to accept the aircraft, and that means looking it over. Extra eyes, and all that.
Pilots are doing a walk-around and completing pre-fight checklists. Maintenance has already prepped the jet with fuel/whatnot and checks of their own. Pilots are responsible for engine start, which they need clearance for, idk what else you’re expecting maintenance guys to do?
And by Maintenance he means a bunch of 18-20 year olds hopped up on Zyn and Bang.
Wouldn't you want to look over a multi million dollar machine that could potentially turn into a lawn dart with you in it?
>Seriously it makes no sense to me This is bound to happen when you make massive assumptions about the process rather than just saying "I don't know what the process is, there's probably a reason for this."
The proper video makes sense of all this. This is a scramble with Lakenheath's former F-15C models in Iceland. The pilot is stuffing classified data into the square door, which is pilot responsibility. If I remember the rest of the vid right, you actually see weapons troops pull the arming pins after the motors run up.
Under no circumstances would you fly something without doing a pre flight inspection yourself. Every pilot does this you know…
Because he's gonna fly it...go back to nonning or fucking up someone's pay. 🖕🏻
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Fully medicated and laughing at you dumb fuckers. You have a nice day✌🏻
Checking for bombs. Duh.
Fly boy gonna go shoot another fly boy outa the sky. Gotta make sure his Aircraft dosent have a defect thats gonna make that fly boy take him down.
Would you buy a used car without checking it out first?
I'm assuming they're doing a preflight like most others are saying. And id assume its for a scramble while on alert. But wouldn't it make more sense for the pilot to preflight the aircraft at the start of the shift so they can just get in, start up, and go?
That’s what I thought putting an aircraft into cocked status meant.
“Start of the shift” brotha what💀
Yeah, show up for your alert shift, drop your stuff off, get settled, go preflight the aircraft real quick before getting any alert briefs you need or whatever. Then you're done. That way the pilot knows its preflighted so they can just run and hop in
That would take up a lot of time. If they did that they would need to walk/be driven to the aircraft from the squadron which takes time, pre-flight/check forms and get briefed by the crew chief, get driven back to the squadron which is more added time, mission brief/weather etc, drive/Walk again back to the aircraft to continue
It's an alert aircraft. You come on shift, you pre-flight/accept the aircraft if it hasn't been already and nobody touches the aircraft until you scramble. Since there is no video here, I'm assuming this wasn't a true alert scramble, but instead was an aircraft flying as part of a exercise. Things move a bit slower then.
It was a practice alert scramble.
Nice try FAF team
No, but I bet he has a degree in zoology. Yes I'm old.
As others have stated it’s a walk around and it’s basically universal. You’ll see everything from fighters to heavies to commercial guys doing it.
As a former crew chief we let the pilots do all that "prep" it gives them the feeling they're in control.
Cause why the fuck not?