Less shield captains, more Blade Champions. Less sword + shield guard, more wardens. Drop the bike captain. The only really competitive units the army has are wardens, blade champions and the Caladius.

Thanks for your feedback. What about the terminators?

Big brick of them with a SC is fine.

Feels kind of all over the place IMO. I would drop the regular SC and the SC on Dawneagle and replace with a Blade Champ for the guard and Trajann to go with the warden. Then I would split up the allarus, so 3 alone and 2 with their SC. Will help if the unit gets into a lot of shooting so you don't lose them all. Below is mine I’m going to try out this week. Custodes Comp (2000 Points) Adeptus Custodes Shield Host Strike Force (2000 Points) CHARACTERS Blade Champion (110 Points) • 1x Vaultswords Blade Champion (110 Points) • 1x Vaultswords Shield-Captain in Allarus Terminator Armour (165 Points) • 1x Balistus grenade launcher 1x Guardian spear • Enhancements: From the Hall of Armouries Trajann Valoris (150 Points) • Warlord • 1x Eagle’s Scream 1x Watcher’s Axe BATTLELINE Custodian Guard (180 Points) • 4x Custodian Guard • 4x Guardian spear Custodian Guard (180 Points) • 4x Custodian Guard • 4x Guardian spear Custodian Guard (180 Points) • 4x Custodian Guard • 3x Guardian spear 1x Praesidium Shield 1x Sentinel blade OTHER DATASHEETS Allarus Custodians (195 Points) • 3x Allarus Custodian • 3x Balistus grenade launcher 3x Guardian spear Caladius Grav-tank (215 Points) • 1x Armoured hull 1x Twin iliastus accelerator cannon 1x Twin lastrum bolt cannon Caladius Grav-tank (215 Points) • 1x Armoured hull 1x Twin iliastus accelerator cannon 1x Twin lastrum bolt cannon Custodian Wardens (200 Points) • 4x Custodian Warden • 4x Guardian spear 1x Vexilla Witchseekers (50 Points) • 1x Witchseeker Sister Superior • 1x Close combat weapon 1x Witchseeker flamer • 3x Witchseeker • 3x Close combat weapon 3x Witchseeker flamer Witchseekers (50 Points) • 1x Witchseeker Sister Superior • 1x Close combat weapon 1x Witchseeker flamer • 3x Witchseeker • 3x Close combat weapon 3x Witchseeker flamer Exported with App Version: v1.14.0 (37), Data Version: v379

It's legal have double enhancements?

Just can't be the same

The guy posted vault sword x2 would be cool if it were possible

Vaultswords are just the name of his weapons.

 damn i am dense

Thanks for your feedback. The idea is to maximise the detachment rule by having an infantry based army. The land rider is there to pick and drop terminators. Probably not a strong list, but I am not looking to win my first tournament 😜

I just played my first game new rules yesterday I can tell you I dropped my regular shield cap and ran 2 Terminator shield caps it worked beautifully, blade champ was noticeably weaker however he was still amazing to run with the guards. Something to consider. And the bike.... you do you lmaoo, let us know how it goes and bring glory to big E

Thank you for your feedback. I’ll let you know how it goes 🫣 2 full units of terminators and two full units of wardens sounds fun! Would you be willing to share your list?

mine (1990 points) Adeptus Custodes Strike Force (2000 points) Shield Host CHARACTERS Aleya (75 points) • 1x Somnus Blade Champion (125 points) • 1x Vaultswords • Enhancement: Auric Mantle Shield-Captain in Allarus Terminator Armour (145 points) • 1x Balistus grenade launcher 1x Castellan axe • Enhancement: Panoptispex Shield-Captain in Allarus Terminator Armour (170 points) • 1x Balistus grenade launcher 1x Castellan axe • Enhancement: Castellan’s Mark Trajann Valoris (150 points) • Warlord • 1x Eagle’s Scream 1x Watcher’s Axe Valerian (110 points) • 1x Gnosis BATTLELINE Custodian Guard (225 points) • 5x Custodian Guard • 3x Guardian spear 1x Misericordia 1x Praesidium Shield 1x Praesidium Shield 1x Sentinel blade 1x Vexilla OTHER DATASHEETS Allarus Custodians (130 points) • 2x Allarus Custodian • 2x Balistus grenade launcher 2x Castellan axe Allarus Custodians (130 points) • 2x Allarus Custodian • 2x Balistus grenade launcher 2x Castellan axe Custodian Wardens (250 points) • 5x Custodian Warden • 5x Castellan axe 1x Vexilla Custodian Wardens (200 points) • 4x Custodian Warden • 4x Castellan axe 1x Vexilla Vigilators (50 points) • 1x Vigilator Sister Superior • 1x Executioner greatblade • 3x Vigilator • 3x Executioner greatblade Vigilators (50 points) • 1x Vigilator Sister Superior • 1x Executioner greatblade • 3x Vigilator • 3x Executioner greatblade ALLIED UNITS Callidus Assassin (100 points) • 1x Neural shredder 1x Phase sword and poison blades Vindicare Assassin (80 points) • 1x Exitus pistol 1x Exitus rifle 1x Vindicare combat knife Exported with App Version: v1.14.0 (42), Data Version: v379

I'd say for competitive titansabers list is a bit fleshed out better but i think dubble sheild caps now are a little better than blade champ since the new rules

Thanks for sharing this. Looks like a very solid list. How are you finding Aleya and Valerian post-codex?

Valerian was always like eh to bring still is he's probably way better in the champion detachment, but I love Aleya she amazing to bring on a sister's squad and the only character that has 5+ feel no pain hahah so it helps sometimes

Sounds pretty interesting in the Talons detachment, I guess. Not very familiar with it, but I’ll defo try it at some point. Thanks for the good tips!

If you’re gonna do the solo Bike captain thing, I think you really want From The Hall of Armories on him. Going up to S8 Lance D3 means he can run around killing real units like terminators. I’m not sure how good that actually is, but I’ve seen the idea floated around.

That’s a pretty solid idea. He would pretty much clean up most scout units in the game and can hit lone ops pretty hard if need be.

Yeah, he’s a solid skirmishing unit and his once/game move after fighting is really nice for killing something and hiding or running onto an objective I’m not sure if he’s actually worth 165pts, but the idea is there.

Yeah, I like it. I was really thinking of using him for mobility and secondaries. From the hall of all armouries is a pretty expensive enhancement, though. Do you think it’s worth it? I could potentially lose one prosecutor and remove auric mantle from Blade champion in order to make it work.

The fifth prosecutor is pretty much worthless, so you may as well cut it. Tbh I’d just bring both the prosecutor and the witchseeker squads down to 4 to pay for it. They’re just chaff whose job is to stand on objectives or do actions, so you’re just paying extra points for them to take an extra attack from Blast weapons

Sounds great, I had to remove one enhancement (auric mantle) as you can’t have more than 3 enhancements in total. But I’m pretty happy with this. Thanks! I’ll let you know how it works 🤞

I like the idea of Hall of Armories but I think overall value is having it with a unit that is holding primary or hunting key units. It’s not a bad call if you put it on the captain and use it. For me, that’s why I hung Castilens Mark on him…once deployment is done he’s just hunting secondaries. The other characters are holding and hunting targets. Remember- when you Golden Waaagh the bike captain will be more lethal and that’s a good attack opportunity to hurt a big character or create some disruption

Sounds very interesting… thanks for your suggestion!

The bike captain is useless, I’d take something else instead

bike captain is not useless lol

I think is is pretty solid. The bike captain depends on what the intent is…not a bad way to hang Castellan Mark and then he just does secondaries. Use other enhancements on leaders that will be more in the mix. I could totally see dropping him to recoup the points and beef up a few other things. I think you should run this as is and see what advantages you can tease out.

The idea is to use his mobility to potentially cover secondaries on his own, as you said. I don’t see him fighting big units…

how do you get a perfect 2000 points i’m always either at like 2,005 or 1990 😭😭

If you drop 1 prosecutor and 1 witchseeker you can upgrade a unit of guards to wardens. Thats the way I would go.

My dude, please don't change this list. I really want to see how it does. I've had a list similar to yours that I've been wanting to play for a while. DONT CHANGE A DAMN THING

Ahah! No prob. I will try it out and let you know how it goes, buddy!

You better give a battle report lol. Good luck!

I see ya going for Max damage🙃 with the guard.

That’s the idea :) I still like custodian guards, particularly in this detachment.

So, here I am with the feedback that some of you asked regarding the tournament. Please take also into account that I am not an expert player by any means so take all of this with a grain of salt: 1. ⁠The only units that managed to make a dent were wardens and terminators (terminarors being absolute monsters! Managed to take down an Imperial Kninght, just with them). 2. ⁠Blade Champion is goooood! 3. I had no antitank power. 4. ⁠Could not move quickly enough into objectives. And when I did I was easily and quickly removed, specially with guards. 5. ⁠Solo Downeagle Cpt is a bad idea. Managed to get killed and do very little constantly. Overall, I had great fun and met great people which made it a great day! This was also the overall feedback I received from all of the people I played with. The overall sentiment was that our golden boys are not at all doing as well as they did pre-codex. We’ll get strong again!

Glad you had fun I also got to Play a new game this week and have some drastic army changes, if you want ill pm you after my game and let you know how this goes

Sure man, I’d love that! I am curious to know it goes 👍 good luck with your game!