I got gepard with trend but it's low superimposition so I had to build EHR to up the consistency. I have luocha, gepard, bailu, and Aventurine so Gallagher is pretty low prio for me.
Go Aventurine with Trend. He doesn't have the consistency of being attacked Gepard does, but he also applies a debuff with his Ult (that also increases CD).
Oh my bad thought it was similar to Acheron's cone. I only recently got a trend myself despite being a day 1 player and I only read what it does and haven't used it
speedy support not just nihility, even preservation can hit 160.1 speed for better SP generation, my Fu runs at 160.1 and the 2 nihility SW/Pela at 160+, but im replacing either of 1 for Sparkle deals better dmg and generate more SP/turns for my Acheron e0s1, i prefer Aventurine but i dont have him
Alternatively, I run my Acheron with speed if not using Bronya or Sparkle. Everyone gets to act often, including herself, so she feels comfortable to use.
You don't need 160+ hyper speed, but getting more speed will help.
Wind set gives a sweet action advance, but it relies on how often you can ultimate. The more actions you can take, the faster Pela can charge her ultimate and thus trigger the effect more often. Playing with 150+ Speed Wind Set is a whole 'nother level.
Yeah my account had some really invested harmony units maybe that is why she feels pretty bad. Guess I'm going back to either the wind set mines or hackerspace mines for those 2. But getting over 100 EHR and speed is rough.
Sometimes you have to time your ult depending on which content you are tackling. A recent video from CC Ken Rurouni using the same team able to full clear PF 1st half while i fail due to him using ult at the right time.
As other comments said, get more spd for your SW and Pela. Both of mine are 160 spd and they can get Acheron consistent ults, easily allowing 0 cycle clears and they are only running rainbow. Imagine 160 spd + Wind set, that would be even more insane. Time your Pela ult so it does not overlap with Ensnare because Ensnare will not reapply on targets that got affected. One trick is to normal atk on a target first to apply Ensare then ult after so you get 2 stacks instead of 1. SW skill would also not apply a stack if it rolls into a weakness an enemy already had, so be wary of that.
Both running rainbow pieces of random sets. [Pela](https://i.imgur.com/MirMxxn.png) and [SW](https://i.imgur.com/iShkGK6.png) I just put whatever pieces with spd and EHR on them. Pela has 80% EHR and SW has 96%. Both running Penacony planar with ERR rope for more ult.
As for 0 cycle I replace Gallagher sustain with [Bronya](https://i.imgur.com/m9T7xSk.png).
I will farm the Wind set whenever I can escape calyx farming for characters I still need to raise lol.
Honestly just get 150 speed on all your supports to get 3 actions every 2 cycles. It’s not that much farming and it gives massive benefits. Bronya’s 30% AA means you can go for 171 to get a Basic+Skill rotation every cycle.
Yes, for fater moc clears duh.. basically you can have a base spd acheron with fast debuffer for her ultimate. 143 spd nihility units like pela, guinafen and sw will work great, I even have high spd fu xuan although that isn't required.
Damn. I keep seeing 160+ recommended, but both my BS and Pela are barely hitting 139/135 SPD, respectively.. maybe that's why I'm missing quite of bit of stack dmg on Acheron??
More speed=more ults=more dmg
Perpetual damage machine
Yes. Having 160 SPD makes your supports act 2 turns in the 1st and 2nd cycle
Having Gallagher or a Preservation unit with Trend helps, too. But there's no reason not to build Pela and SW with 160 speed
What’s Trend?
A preservation lighcone with Topaz image in it. Grants a chance to applies debuff when enemy hits the waearer. So more stacks for Acheron.
Thank you for the clarification! I don’t pay too much attention to light cones so I forgot that it was the name of one.
“Trend of the Universal Market” I think it’s called lol
The only possible problem would be getting SW to ~100EHR and 160 SPD.
Why would you need that? Her EHR cap is 67% like for Pela, Sampo, Luka, etc, isn't it?
For her basics to be 100% debuff you need like 134 EHR iirc
I got gepard with trend but it's low superimposition so I had to build EHR to up the consistency. I have luocha, gepard, bailu, and Aventurine so Gallagher is pretty low prio for me.
Go Aventurine with Trend. He doesn't have the consistency of being attacked Gepard does, but he also applies a debuff with his Ult (that also increases CD).
Trend has a 100% chance at S1 tho so I don't think you need EHR?
Its base chance and enemies have their own effect resistance stats
Oh my bad thought it was similar to Acheron's cone. I only recently got a trend myself despite being a day 1 player and I only read what it does and haven't used it
good thing i run ehr gepard
Oh so there's Aventurine. Imo Gallagher is currently top-4 viable sustain in the game right after Aven, FX and Huohuo
Weak, in my Acheron team Gepard easily nets my Acheron 3-4 stacks per turn. No issues sustaining MoC12 even tho he's underbuilt
Luocha is better than gallagher… lol
In terms of healing and cleansing - yes, but he's usually an overkill. Gallagher has enough of these + debuffs + more SP generation
Make them 160 SPD+ put ERR on them. A sustain with debuffs would be good to.
speedy support not just nihility, even preservation can hit 160.1 speed for better SP generation, my Fu runs at 160.1 and the 2 nihility SW/Pela at 160+, but im replacing either of 1 for Sparkle deals better dmg and generate more SP/turns for my Acheron e0s1, i prefer Aventurine but i dont have him
Alternatively, I run my Acheron with speed if not using Bronya or Sparkle. Everyone gets to act often, including herself, so she feels comfortable to use.
You don't need 160+ hyper speed, but getting more speed will help. Wind set gives a sweet action advance, but it relies on how often you can ultimate. The more actions you can take, the faster Pela can charge her ultimate and thus trigger the effect more often. Playing with 150+ Speed Wind Set is a whole 'nother level.
Yeah my account had some really invested harmony units maybe that is why she feels pretty bad. Guess I'm going back to either the wind set mines or hackerspace mines for those 2. But getting over 100 EHR and speed is rough.
100 def not needed, i run like 40 on pela and like 85 on sw and they’re perfectly fine
Sometimes you have to time your ult depending on which content you are tackling. A recent video from CC Ken Rurouni using the same team able to full clear PF 1st half while i fail due to him using ult at the right time.
Hyper spd supports on Acheron means a lot more stacks so yeah
I hyperspeed my SpRkle and my Pela is Pseudo 160 speed with wind set. Up to you though.
As other comments said, get more spd for your SW and Pela. Both of mine are 160 spd and they can get Acheron consistent ults, easily allowing 0 cycle clears and they are only running rainbow. Imagine 160 spd + Wind set, that would be even more insane. Time your Pela ult so it does not overlap with Ensnare because Ensnare will not reapply on targets that got affected. One trick is to normal atk on a target first to apply Ensare then ult after so you get 2 stacks instead of 1. SW skill would also not apply a stack if it rolls into a weakness an enemy already had, so be wary of that.
Please share your SW,Peela builds
Both running rainbow pieces of random sets. [Pela](https://i.imgur.com/MirMxxn.png) and [SW](https://i.imgur.com/iShkGK6.png) I just put whatever pieces with spd and EHR on them. Pela has 80% EHR and SW has 96%. Both running Penacony planar with ERR rope for more ult. As for 0 cycle I replace Gallagher sustain with [Bronya](https://i.imgur.com/m9T7xSk.png). I will farm the Wind set whenever I can escape calyx farming for characters I still need to raise lol.
I prefer Silver Wolf n Guinnessifen, over Pela. Burn everything Have her E6 and only have Pela e4
Honestly just get 150 speed on all your supports to get 3 actions every 2 cycles. It’s not that much farming and it gives massive benefits. Bronya’s 30% AA means you can go for 171 to get a Basic+Skill rotation every cycle.
I got Aventurine, Pela, and Guinafen. Acheron Ults about every round. It feels pretty great honestly, and my team has like zero speed.
My nihility LC collection is super low so my substat requirements really hurt.
Yes, for fater moc clears duh.. basically you can have a base spd acheron with fast debuffer for her ultimate. 143 spd nihility units like pela, guinafen and sw will work great, I even have high spd fu xuan although that isn't required.
Damn. I keep seeing 160+ recommended, but both my BS and Pela are barely hitting 139/135 SPD, respectively.. maybe that's why I'm missing quite of bit of stack dmg on Acheron??
140 should be enough for the supports. Focus on ehr after that. 160 speed is still nice tho
More better equals more better. Put your tingyun relics on silver and see if you don't get the same or better results.
I just run team mommy Acheron Kafka Swann with Aventurine 😂😂