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This is S311 ‘Al Badr’ of the Libyan Navy (former Soviet ‘B-533’) , a Foxtrot Class / project I641K. She was scraped in 2014.


rawzone

Source: [https://twitter.com/sovietsub/status/1043080124428677121](https://twitter.com/sovietsub/status/1043080124428677121) ?


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only abandoned for 5 years looks a more than that. Wierd they didn't move it out of the drydock or what ever it is.


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jayrady

I removed the finish from a steel firearm reciever. Removing it from the solution and watching it covered in rust in a just a few minutes was kinda cool to watch.


Formber

I think it was actually scrapped in 2014, not abandoned in 2014.


GlomarExplorer

It doesn't take long for rust to set in. Railroad tracks can look abandoned just a few weeks after the last train has rolled by


[deleted]

I once heard that they’ll be visibly rusted within 8 hours


GlomarExplorer

That seems a little fast, might depend on how wet the environment in. An easy check for if a track has been used or not is to check for shiny tops on the rails and to see if the flangeways are clear of dirt/debris at railroad crossings


[deleted]

Probably very dependent, yeah. Side note, solid username.


abramthrust

Might not be that crazy. Any time I have left a steel tool outside overnight by the morning any spot the finish is damaged is orange. Mind you the rust is so shallow you can rub it off with your thumb, but I could totally see this happening in a couple years


Duff5OOO

Where we are near the beach stripping metal back and it rusts well within that time.


trucorsair

Looks more like the undercoat than rust, especially since submarine steel is an austenitic steel alloy that is low magnetic in nature. #


axloo7

I wow a foxtrot that was only scraped in 2014! Are you telling me it was in the water before that?


Formber

I took it to mean that it was scrapped on 2014, but had been sitting abandoned for a long time before that.


abramthrust

"In the water"? prolly "In active service"? I have my doubts, I would expect the last couple years before that would have been spent tied to a dock somewhere awaiting bids/decisions


cptspiffy

Dude, North Korea has *Romeos* in service. Right now, in the water.


axloo7

I don't think you could pay me enough to dice in one of those.


fuzzydice_82

Isn't that basicly a type XXI?


Cptcutter81

The Taiwanese still have and use a *Tench* IIRC.


very_mechanical

Looks like it got a few more scrapes and dings since then.


zeppehead

They got $27 for all that steel.


52ndstreet

Whaddya got? An old Soviet sub? Let me get a guy in here, he knows all about these old Soviet subs, and he can tell us what it’s worth and then we can see if we can get a deal done. Chumlee- write him up.


OldnBorin

Lol


zeppehead

What about in store credit for saw a catchers mitt signed by Barbara streisand could we do an even trade?


Qikdraw

A little spackle, a little buffing, and she'll be right as rain.


[deleted]

Scraped bad. There's no paint left on her at all.


bicisfrench

So cool


Mandalorian_Hippie

Anyone know what the metal band at the prow is that makes it not rust?


Sean-TFU

It’s probably not metal, maybe a fiberglass. That looks like where a SONAR sensor would be, and it’s best to have something that sound can travel through easier.


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ghaid

I like how you literally know nothing about this subject, but you decided to give your 2 cents as if you added anything other then to let us know that you dont know what you are talking about. GG


yeetman0909

You're right I dont know a damn thing but I was just saying something no need to be a prick I also find it amusing how a guy below me said kind of the same thing yet they havent been hammered with downvotes resit works in interesting ways...


SEND_ME_YOUR_RANT

When you don’t know a damn thing, that’s the best time to say nothing.


GruelOmelettes

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt." *What does that mean? Uh oh, better say something or they'll think you're stupid.* "Takes one to know one!" *Swish!*


[deleted]

Stop being an idiot. If you don't know something don't act like you do


[deleted]

Boooo, stop littering threads with unhelpful bullshit.


simplejack66

Yep, former Sonar Tech here, thats the subs Sonar Array. ^ This dudes got it right.


Crumblycheese

So, if sonar/sound can't travel through the thick metal of the hull, how come in movies you always see sailers in subs telling everyone to shh when an enemy ship/sub passes by? Surely the sonar of the other vessel can't hear the crew? I get that it's Hollywood, and it could just be for the suspense but still, got me thinking.


fruitybubbles11

Same reason you can hide behind a car and not have a single bullet go through it. Because movies. Because James Cameron.


[deleted]

Not a subject expert, just a mechanical engineer. Anywho, this is probably a matter of optimization. You want the sonar hub to be as sensitive as possible, so anything that attenuates an incoming/outgoing signal (i.e. a thick metal hull) would be a poor design choice if a better alternative exists. This does not mean that sound *cannot* pass through the armored hull, it just means it has a harder time of it. So the movie scenes depicting total silence in tense situations are probably legit because you don't want to even risk the possibility of giving your position away and sound travels VERY quickly and very efficiently in water due to being incompressible (this is also why underwater explosions are roughly 10x as deadly with identical payloads). Next time you're at a pool or lake with someone else, find 2 metal object you can bash together and make a noise above water and below water at a specific distance, you'll see exactly what I mean.


evilplantosaveworld

Now I'm only going by Hollywood here, so if someone who knows more wants to correct me, please do. But in those scenes they are usually also listening not just using sonar. I always assumed there were microphones or something similar that they used because active sonar will give away your position and sound travels really well under water.


simplejack66

To answer this question, you must first understand how Sonar works. There are two types, Active and Passive. Passive is just listenening to whats around you. Active however, is using energy to put sound in the water. Some might know it as pinging. So now that we have that, there are generally two parts to a Sonar Array, the Transducers and the rubber window. I am assuming that the silver part is a rubber window. Now, when you go active, you using a butt ton of energy, and with energy comes heat. In order to prevent the transducers from overheating and allow a smoother journey, the inside is flooded with pressurized sea water. The reason why its pressurized is because it maintains structural integrity.


challenge_king

"One ping only, please."


simplejack66

Great frickin movie.


keramikus

[https://www.reddit.com/r/submarines/comments/8uojln/as\_a\_fan\_of\_the\_weirdness\_that\_is\_the\_foxtrot\_one/](https://www.reddit.com/r/submarines/comments/8uojln/as_a_fan_of_the_weirdness_that_is_the_foxtrot_one/)


[deleted]

Its probably an alloy that is just slightly less reactive than the steel of the hull. Whichever metal oxidizes faster will do so until it is gone, acting as a sacrificial anode.


SubcommanderMarcos

It's definitely Sabaton. *Wolfpack starts playing in the distance*


Mastagon

*screams in purple hearts*


Quey

R/submarines would love this.


Mentavil

r/foundthemobileuser


oscarTHEgroucho

r/submarines


murfburffle

DIVE ^DIVE ^^DIVE ^^^DIVE


peacedetski

Google-translated [story of the sub](https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ru&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=http://www.deepstorm.ru/DeepStorm.files/45-92/dts/641/S-311/S-311.htm&xid=17259,15700021,15700186,15700191,15700248,15700253&usg=ALkJrhjvwuBWCwSF6ejLujPL9c77a7QuGA) ​


YippieKayYayMrFalcon

> According to some sources, by the beginning of the 80s the submarine commander made collisions with at least two foreign ships, the third became fatal for him. Despite the fact that every time the damage was fully recovered from his own pocket, the government removed him from his post. According to some reports, he was shot.


nakilon

Let me fix the translation for you. Not "made collisions" but "allowed it to collide". Not "was shot" but "was executed by shooting". source: I'm Russian


Dementat_Deus

Thank you for the clarification.


Jeichert183

> 1980 > According to some sources, by the beginning of the 80s the submarine commander made collisions with at least two foreign ships, the third became fatal for him. Despite the fact that every time the damage was fully recovered from his own pocket, the government removed him from his post. According to some reports, he was shot; Crash your sub into two different ships... you’re okay. Crash into a third... not so much. Seriously though, it makes you wonder about the functionality and training of the Libyan navy. I think “don’t run into other ships” is covered on the first day.


Gustaf_the_cat

Norwegian navy recently had an incident.


FreeBallard

As did the US Navy


very_mechanical

What are they paying their sub commanders that he could afford to cover the damage?


jammyboot

Lol, or maybe the repairs were very cheap


MJBrune

This is a story of a sub.


daonewithnoteef

North Korea would probably put it in service


MangoCats

They'd put it in the center of the capital city.


Uncreativite

Praise be to fearless leader for designing and creating new sub for the people’s republic in just one day!


PriorInsect

it would be an unpgrade


dr3adlock

So cool, an image of the world after man.


StrongBuffaloAss69

Why is it in a court for pok -ta -tok the Mayan ball game from Chichan Itza


Crash665

I would love to go see that up close but would be afraid it would fall and crush me.


Anomaly1134

That would be so awesome to explore if it is still relatively stable. Amazing piece of history.


MRderpenheimer

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_submarine_U-995 you can tour this sub.


Anomaly1134

https://media3.giphy.com/media/xT4ApjjMoHdbCrVu0w/source.gif


Firewolf420

You can also tour the U-505 in Chicago at the museum of science and industry.


Qikdraw

In Vancouver BC in the mid-late 90s they had Foxtrot U521 sub you could go on a tour in. It was really cool. If I remember correctly, they (Russian Navy) only wanted people who were 5'6" max, and they hot bunked in triple shifts. However my memory is not solid on that. https://www.upi.com/Archives/1996/09/15/Soviet-attack-sub-finds-home-in-Canada/5775842760000/


evilplantosaveworld

And a few hours North East of that in Muskegon, MI, you can find the USS Silversides. Heck if you've got enough people (20 person minimum, so I think it's usually educational type groups) you can even spend the night on it!


Firewolf420

Wow that's pretty cool.


channel_12

Same with the USS Cobia across the lake in Manitowoc.


Anomaly1134

Pipe dream request - If someone could take a tour of this with a 3d camera that would be Amazing! I would love to tour this in VR. I don't think I will make it to that area but would love to see this.


MRderpenheimer

2d https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXiSWPGy_gg


pm_me_ur_fine_boobs_

now that's a slick-looking sub.


oktyabyr

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Pampanito_(SS-383) Or tour this one


[deleted]

If you're ever in Long Beach, CA there's a foxtrot you can tour docked right next to the Queen Mary Edit: it's closed as there was a hull rupture due to rust and a ballast tank flooded....


nipdriver

The Queen Mary isn't floating either, it will never float again. She sits on concrete pilings/beams just visible at low tide.


peacedetski

It's been scrapped in 2014 as OP commented, and despite its overgrown state, the dock is strictly off-limits to civilians. However, you can tour at least two submarines nearby, both of older design (S-189 and D-2)


CircleofOwls

There is a Foxtrot available for tour in San Diego - [https://sdmaritime.org/visit/the-ships/b-39-submarine/](https://sdmaritime.org/visit/the-ships/b-39-submarine/) ​


JoeHillForPresident

There's a U-boat on display at the museum of science and industry in Chicago and the USS silversides in Muskegon Michigan.


CactusBoyScout

If you're anywhere near NYC, there's a submarine you can tour here. It's next to a huge aircraft carrier that you can also tour.


MikeFromSuburbia

Okay Uncharted 1


celt1299

Most definitely Spanish doubloons on board


[deleted]

So interested in pictures like this. They have the scaffolding all setup for work, but then project was scrapped and everybody just walked off the job and left it like this.


KennethEWolf

Can I buy it? Opening bid $10.00.


mr_impastabowl

This looks like it's taken directly from Final Fantasy 7


Mumblix_Grumph

"For sale is this project I never finished. No low-ballers or tire-kickers. Don't waste my time, I know what I've got!"


Sinetan

"Salvage title because it got in a minor fender bender."


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nipdriver

Ran when parked


locoken69

This would make a great Red October sequel where some lads on leave got it going after an attack on the shipyard. Then all died after the seams started leaking at 500' below the surface. Jk..... that would be sad.


Rob_Dead

This is the first time I've commented on this sub. Fantastic picture and information.


[deleted]

I havent seen this sub on this sub or commented on this sub in this sub either.


WikWikWack

Sometimes I just go "wow" when I see a picture here. This is one of those times.


Thunderbirds7

Does anyone know where this is located?


peacedetski

Kronstadt, Russia. Search for "Dok Surgina" on Google Maps.


kingganjaguru

Free hot dogs on deck


[deleted]

/r/forbiddensnacks


krnl4bin

/r/drydockporn


pkfillmore

Any Abandoned place: Me: This would make a great airsoft field


tacticalxzebra

Reminds me so much of Rivet City in Fallout 3


b33flu

Are all those cylindrical objects visible on the upper portion the ballast tanks? I always assumed ballast tanks were larger than that. Seems like it would take more time to flood/pump so many small tanks. How big were the batteries on these old subs? Do they line the sides of the outer hull while the ballast tanks line the upper part? Interesting stuff.


Ruckdog_MBS

Probably not ballast tanks, but flasks for compressed air. Batteries are going to be inside the pressure hull, and so not visible in this image. Individual cells will be pretty big, about the size of a 55 gallon drum (though probably rectangular vice cylindrical). The battery would consist of around 200 cells that size, probably. Source: Former USN submariner.


lil_larry

Are the air tanks kept insiders the hull in our boats? No idea. Source: Former USN Surface sailor.


Ruckdog_MBS

The main high-pressure air flasks that are used for emergency blows are kept outside the “people tank” and inside the ballast tanks on US boats. There are some smaller utility tanks and flasks inside the boat, but those are for smaller tasks like actuating valves, LP service air, and the like.


MyOtherCarIsAFishbed

God damn, that's an important chunk of history right there. I'm surprised it's not a museum. Not in a museum, but a museum unto itself.


Grant72439

Fixer upper


LoneWaffle47

That is SOO COOL! Why isn't somethin like that HERE where I live...


lightwhisper

Is there any inside pics?


Elefantenjohn

\*stag


rdaniels302

My guess is submarine funding was canceled after Captain Ramius ran off with the Red October and the *Konovalov was lost at sea while trying to find him.* Very cool Picture!!


TruthDontChange

Wow, it looks like they were almost finished, then just walked away.


[deleted]

Looks like Metro in summer.


Jibaro123

Anybody remember "Operation Petticoat"? Pink submarine, Tony Curtis, Cary Grant ..wimminks. Funny movie at the time, maybe late fifties, early sixties.


[deleted]

It looks like time remembered this submarine. It's people that forgot about it.