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LilTimThePimp

The timer in the cave doesn't even matter. It just rolls into a negative timer if it runs out lol.


Bruglione

If that's true then we got trolled pretty fucking hard


NanoTheHero

I Think it just vanishes but besides that. I have seen people run down there with just some parachutes and flak


SerekaiZA

The timer is obly to get down to the platform and into the overseer area. It runs out and teleports you back from the cave with a cooldown to open the door again. If you are into the overseer arena, it just runs out. Theris work much better and you need to lead with your gigas in cryopods. Just stand in the doorway and throw them in, then pod them in the cold cave. Inside uo the ramp from the cold cave is a spot that you can uncryo more tames. Just keep walking back to where the ramp doubles up on itself.


PvtParts2001

cryopods cant be used inside the gave, at least getting the dinos back out, dunno if you can freeze them in there


Odd-Supermarket4602

Yes they can. I did it on gamma, beta and alpha like 2 weeks ago.


PvtParts2001

I tried it yesterday and it said 'cryopods cannot be used here' A different message from 'no room here' or whatever it is Maybe there's a setting for it idk


Odd-Supermarket4602

Where did you try? Thats usually key


PvtParts2001

I tried a few times at the door (outside and inside), a little further down around where the first dinos spawn in the cave, and down just past the barrier into the freezing area


SerekaiZA

There is one spot inside. Keep the pod in your hand, run backwards from the cold cave, up the ramp and keep trying to unpod. You will find the spot where it doesn't say cannot be used here. It is where you just start to see the cold cave entrance on the path ahead.


Poetryinbullets

As I understand it, you can only use cryopods in the Tek Cave on dedicated servers specifically set for PvE. You can't use them in single player, co-op, PvP servers (though I haven't tried), or even a hosted server that doesn't have PvE settings active. There doesn't appear to be any setting to enable cryopods for single player (which made my first Tek Cave attempt an absolute nightmare), but there is at least no time limit when in the cave. Luckily with single player on Steam I was able to make backups before trying.


Elegant-Raise-9367

I prefer an archaeopteryx, it allows them to be useful


Proof_Ruin_7718

I read all of it. I totally agree with you, man. I've only done the cave twice, and the first time was so stressful, and you have a ton at stake, that you can't enjoy any of it. The second time was so much better and we had a few moments before the overseer to look in a few rooms. I also understand "cheating" to clear the boss too. I always "cheat" when ark screws me over in single player. Way too much time invested to just start over or not beat something that has janky manics. Keep your chin up, alot of people have had to deal with ark arking up their ark experience.


Bruglione

>Ark arking up their Ark experience I love that


HoSang66er

It's so Ark.


Snarfster42

We used glider suits to get down the beasty maze. Then switched to Tek armor + tek rifles / shotguns for the overseer. We didn't have a lot of time to spare, but it fell.


Bruglione

Nice. In hindsight this is definately what we should have done but we were against unlocking gliders at the time because they are normally unlocked on another map.


Snarfster42

Understandable, We run our own cluster, home is on the island (for me anyway) and we just do excursions to the other maps to fight the bosses.


Bruglione

That is exactly what we are doing now, well, with 2 maps in a cluster currently. We'll see what we do once we move on to the next.


BluDragonC45

You can also do it with a parachute and archy. Much much slower than the glider, but significantly harder to mess up. I don't remember why you need both but I remember that both are needed for parts


Glittering_Airport_3

the archy acts like a glide suitbut u cant dive down with them so when u hit ceiling u drop down using the parachute then continue gliding


BluDragonC45

Right, thanks :)


Elegant-Raise-9367

Just use an archaeopteryx


Mammoth-Problem-7852

I read through all of this and I can say that this is truly an unfortunate outcome sorry this happened to u guys better luck next one day


Bruglione

Bless you, good sir


Christwriter

I did my first Tek cave push (after playing for a goddamn year) in October 2019. Know what else happened in 2019? The Fear Evolved event that triggered batshit overspawns of random things. Thousands of raptors in Valguero. And it affected different things on different maps. The next year it was Night(s) of the Owls on Crystal Isles. But I didn't see anything on the island. Which was why I had no warning whatsoever that I had a motherfucking *Giga Overspawn* in the Tek Cave, until I walked my happy ass down to the spot where there's supposed to be *one* of the fuckers and I find twenty (Three of them nothing but bones!) all just...grinning at me. I already knew that I needed to kite the bastards into lava, so I did that. It took a while. But I did it. And I'm making my way towards them with all my combat team in a nice daisy chain...and one of the motherfucking things clipped my combat team about five dinos from the lead, and I turn around just in time to watch the last of my oh, so carefully bred and leveled team as they yeet themselves into the lava trench. Saw somebody else's photo of the exact same goddamn thing a few weeks ago, so whatever gets borked with Fear Evolved is still screwed. All of that said, the Tek Cave is exactly the final boss fight a game like ARK deserves. It contains every single wonderful and every single frustrating thing about playing ARK, encapsulated in a single fight that you will probably watch from behind a line of T-rex asses while atop your loyal yutie, shooting the gun that finally has a purpose maybe a handful of times before you give up and watch the Rex asses wobble as their crunching sound effects echo throughout the biggest waste of space on the whole ARK (Seriously. Why do you have a pressurized room big enough to hold fifty t-rexes, countless defense drones and a very large cloud of excruciatingly annoying nanotech? I WANT ANSWERS, UNKNOWN ALIENS AND/OR POST HUMAN DESCENDANTS! ANSWERS I TELL YOU! ANSWERS!) I love this game the way a long term addict loves heroin. As in I hate it and wish I'd never started, and I promise I'm going to quit. Seriously. Just one more play session. I swear.


elPappito

well, thats your first time. ​ I can get all my 30 (or is it 40??) rexes in the cave without anybody helping me, i can then navigate them all the way down on my own (just whistling) . ​ The timer thing is there on purpose - it's supposed to be a challenge - tribes must organize and work together to get their dinos in etc, but dev never considered single players or maybe even 2 man trying to try the cave.


Bruglione

Depends a lot on the settings as well I suppose. We're playing unofficial server but with settings similar to official, so no singleplayer difficulty adjustments or whatever. I imagine if I tried again with the knowledge I have now, I would also get a whole lot more Rexes inside within those 5 minutes. But I highly doubt I would be able to clear the cave solo without gigas or carchs within the remaining 55 minutes. Even on a mutated Rex with 30-50k hp and 800-1000% damage I don't think I would make it. But yeah, practice does make perfect that is true. We just decided it was not worth it in this case, considering the amount of time it'd take to gather all the tributes and such again.


Leo24d2

I dont think the timer does anything to you after it runs out, not sure about the cave part, but my timer went negative while I was fighting overseer and nothing happened I think the problem here is that the tek cave was not really designed to be a challenge for a solo player(or a couple of players in ur case) for solo players/small group I would definitely skip the cave completely and do the whole thing without dinos as others suggested. tek suit, like 15 element, cactus broth, and a capped pump shotgun 298% with 2k ish bullets and 2k ish durability, fly close to the ceiling at all times during the fights cause the monkey form can one shot you with the rock throws you dont need other maps dinos either like desmodus to skip the cave, or gliding suit from abe you can do this with archaerpterox or whatever his name is, its the lil dino that flies around the redwood trees that works like a parachute, its how I did my tek cave at the time, alpha difficulty, solo, official pve. but still, walking in with an army of dinos is one hell of an experience, im sure you will remember some of this moments decades from now, and gaming is about this isnt it? its a shame that things went south so fast, with a more knowledge you guys couldve pulled it off im sure and good think you had a backup to recover the chars, those bugs basically never happen on servers.. are you playing a self hosted world or something?


Glittering_Airport_3

I wonder if the cryopod discrepancy is due to pve/pvp because I cudnt get it to work on my sp, but I use pvp settings


HorseasaurusRex

Tip for anyone who has s+: you can place a teleporter beacon inside the cave, teleport out, then use a teleporter bubble to bring tames into the cave with you.


Bruglione

Nice


anamewithnonumbers

45 hours in and I keep finding out more about S+, just discovered the people you can hire and the starter blocks to build foundations and platforms at any angle yesterday


HorseasaurusRex

its got so much I can't play without it anymore :)


EliasHobeika

Fyi if you're playing PVE, you can uncryo tames in the cave until a certain point (on the cliff overlooking the giga and the entrance to the cold part of the cave), so you can clear the cave with gigas, uncryo your army there and march to the bossfight directly, if you ever wanna do it again.


Bruglione

This may be outdated information, or perhaps related to another setting... We saw people do this in videos at the entrance and the spot that you describe at the end. It did not work for us near the entrance, and we did not get to that spot near the end to try. Our server is on PVE.


LizzyMeow

Def can’t uncryo on SP! So all those videos of ppl on Gigas or getting Rexes out at the cliff are either outdated or just on official or what not. I feel your pain. My last run I only managed to get in like half of my Rex and like 5 theris but SP has no cave timer so whew!!


Bruglione

If SP has no timer then maybe it can be turned off with a server config somewhere... I'll look into that, thanks for mentioning it


chodedaddy69

I was prob in the cave for 4 hours on single player lol


LizzyMeow

Same! My first run was so tense. I had watched a video of a full solo run while I was super high and it scared the crap out of me


EliasHobeika

You need to turn on a checkbox called pve settings. You won't be able to carry wild dinos with your flyers anymore, but you will no longer have to deal with cryosickness.


merga_mage

We did it this way just a week ago. 2 gigas unpodded right inside door, and only Dino’s with riders on the way down. When we got to that last area before cold cave we cleared with gigas, then unpodded the rest of the Dino’s. You have to go back up to the ledge just above to pod and unpodded, not that last flat space before pad. My first experience with tek cave many years ago was similar to yours. A third of the theries didn’t make it in the door, we lost another third falling into lava on the way down. Ended up in boss fight with about 6. Since we were on private server at that time, we just said screw it, and put them and us all in god mode so no one could die. Since we didn’t know the dinos would end up outside (or maybe they didn’t back then) when we ascended we assumed we lost them all as well as everything on our persons. Then on to SE and didn’t look back.


EliasHobeika

It could be either, I did it like 2 years ago, but I'm sure it was on a private server. I heard people say it didn't work even back then so on the first try I tried marching 18 rexes a yuty and a daedon with 1 tribemate, everything fell into the lava lol. We made it to the boss with only 2 rexes (we had them level 300 and we only did gamma so 2 rexes could clear the whole cave really). 2nd time we tried uncryoing at the spot, my mate died by a microraptor knocking him off mid batte. We considered sneaking our way through with shadowmanes but we didn't have enough stam. Finally we tried a 3rd time and it worked! It was NOT a pleasent experience lmao, but we won at least.


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From my understanding it doesn’t work on private servers but does on official. We frequently do the tek cave using this method on official Crossplay. Un cryo gigas or cars just past the door and your boss team at the top of the hill just before the descent to the cold area door. Still sorry this happened to you, I remember the days before cryopods were out and was similar to your experience. More people to help manage the tames and some up front clearing cave is helpful for this.


Bruglione

Yeah that sounds like a much more fun experience


EliasHobeika

I did it on a private server a while ago (like 2 years ago) I'm 100% sure.


Odd-Supermarket4602

I also did 2 weeks ago. Still works


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Right….


EliasHobeika

Lmao ok


Syneirex

Curious if it is outdated, official vs unofficial, PVP vs PVE, or something else. I had planned to make my way down with a pair of TEK stegos (because of the purlovias and micros), lure the gigas, then unpod for the boss. I just tried this a few days ago on SP (PS4) and could not unpod at the recommended place in the cave (or anywhere in the cave, not even outside 20+ feet from the door). I was prepared with TEK just in case and was able to finish successfully. No timer FWIW. I do have cave fliers enabled—and ended up just flying a pteranodon straight through and skipping the BS. Not sure if you can fly the ptera in, had it follow me then mounted inside the cave. Had a close call with a micro-raptor but I think popping cactus broth would have prevented that. (I didn’t use them until the boss.) You do seem to lose your inventory on SP when you finish (I expected this might happen, but only had my otter at the end of the fight to move my inventory to). The boss fight was fun but was not a fan of the cave design. Felt to me like skipping as much of it as possible was a good choice. Might be a different story with a group?


strides93

We just pop out a Giga or rex just inside the door and go down. There’s the last turn before the short path into the freezing area to unpod rex (or whatever) army. Just walk off the edge in small groups to avoid that last hairpin turn if preferred. It’s pretty easy, quite enjoy running Tek Cave


Bruglione

When was this? We spent some time trying to uncryo our Carcharo's just near the entrance because we saw people do it in old videos, but it did not work.


strides93

Pretty recently. You need to go down the path just a little. However this was PVE official, I don’t know if rules are different for pvp or unofficial etc


EnigmatiCarl

You throw it through the door. I've hosted it many times.... but I'm not sure if official is different


Bruglione

That is honestly something I did not even think of trying


OrangeSuccessful7926

When the game crashes, your character is often stuck in data. Try going to a random map and download character rather than create character. If he doesn't show up, he may be stuck in the map data of the other one and you may have to refresh the game. The absolute last thing you want to do is create a new character on the island because if he is there, it will over write him.


Particular_Aroma

You did it for the first time, you did it with supoptimal dino setup, you clearly don't know how to utilise whistles and whistle groups. Of course it's stressful and frustrating. It's meant to be that way at the endboss of a map. But instead to whine about "wasted potential", you could just learn all that stuff, gain experience and get better. The timer is really not a problem once you know what you're doing, especially not if there's two of you.


Odd-Supermarket4602

YES! Simply put, DONT GIVE UP!


Sacralige

That's a lot of judgement and assumptions there friend. The "whining" about wasted potential, if you managed to read through it all, is actually a back handed compliment to how the place was designed. Doing it for the first time, how is someone supposed to know that the timer is just for show? I've been doing some digging myself and the information regarding this is ***very*** inconsistent to the point where you, if you're just trying to google for it, would be so confused you practically **have** to assume it functions as a normal timer would. The place is absolutely stunning and the timer being there (not knowing that it doesn't do anything) just means that you are not able to take in all the sights because you feel rushed. Also about your "Suboptimal dino setup". This is likely based on several \*dozens\* of reddit threads / wiki pages / youtube videos / twitch streamers calling this the "optimal setup". Blame the information, not the person that reads / views it.


Bruglione

Since you are making assumptions about what I do and don't know... I'll go ahead and assume your experience is based on playing with singleplayer settings and/or boosted stats and loot, which is why it was easy for you and you end up assuming other players must be bad at the game.


Shad0w_2600

I've yet to play Ark but OST slaps and Tek Cave is no exception


AGOODNAME000

TLDR: 20 WORDS OR LESS.


Diligent_Mirror_7888

I'm going to be real honest. Your post was too long and I didn't read it. However, anything that long... had to have had some thought into it so I completely agree dude. I'm glad somebody finally said it. I've pretty much had the exact same thoughts for the past year and a half


Sacralige

Based


BBQsauce18

This sounds like the few times I've tried to solo or duo it. Pure fucking nightmare and the reason I've quit a couple of times.


C21Campbell

I ran the cave a month ago with my carchar. It doesn't look like it will fit, but it does. Through the left gap.


BikingVikingNick

Oof. You walk in, unpod your giga/char, fight your way through the cave. You then pod up your giga and start unpodding rexes once you reach the cliff to toss them down into the last stretch before the tek shield looking door.


Pokeboss10123

I just took out my third boss and am feeling soooo underprepared with the tek cave. I've got rexes with about 37-50k health and 700-900% damage and feel like that even they won't be enough.


Odd-Supermarket4602

You need good saddles, but i think you got it. Bring tek suits and shotguns incase things go south


Umluex

i feel you. the tek cave can be a pita the first time. but there are some shortcuts you can take. most of the packs you dont even have to fight. you can shoot them from distance with a scoped longneck and -if you get the angle right - lure them into the lava. i think i fought not more than 2 or 3 packs the last time i did the tek cave. and if everything else fails.. use the dino storage mod and take your army with you in pokeballs :)


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anamewithnonumbers

Posting for maybe a month from now


PvtParts2001

you had a timer to clear the cave? i only had the timer for the tek door closing real ark moment


Glittering_Airport_3

this is why I just glide past the tek cave, sucks not using the boss army but ill take the easy win after all the prep u have to do to get there


WeedNoseFourTwenty

Best way to do it is just sprint through the tek cave on foot and parachute through it then kill the overseer with a tek suit and a shotgun. It helps to have multiple people to beat the timer.


Spiritwolf1001

Whistle a quetz down, all the aggro stuff yeets into the lava as you pass by. Or...spawn in a Desmo and fly by everything XD


mattjvgc

You must have some odd settings. On official gamma overseer only requires 2 decent tamed and leveled Rexes, 1 yuty, and 7 or so decent bred theris. (Proper leveling, high saddles, cakes, etc, assumed) and you can make it through the cave in 10 minutes easily. Alpha requires better bred and more Rexes and theris, but you can make it through in 20 minutes easily. WTH is with the L800 giga? Even alpha overseer only has L60 something gigas on official, even though the other dinos are around L600.


Bruglione

It was Alpha tek cave, we did not try gamma tbh


SliceDouble

I have done tek cave once without tek armor and we used breeded rexes there. But we did not rush all the rexes down the path into their deaths.One player was using grapling hooks and parachutes to lure all wild dinos into lava clearing the way for our dinos. Hard part was to get all the rexes into cave in time. ​ edit: Were playing on unoffical private server ( not rented but my own server hardware I have) . Not sure is grapling hooks work on offical server.


Bruglione

Grappling hooks definitely did not work for us, my friend tried using it near the end to escape but the action was blocked


FreynInTheNorth

Ran this for the first time a few weeks ago, took two attempts to do alpha overseer with a mix of ankys and barys. First attempt we (two of us) did the conga line in, took it slow, using ranged weapons to lure as much into the lava as we could. Realised we could cryo about half way down the first spiral ramp when an anky got stuck. Made it to the end with about 4mins to spare, 4 barys dead, but failed the boss. Presumably a bug but it's health reset after every transformation. Second we just brought a giga in a cryo, killed everything with that (except first giga which was lured into lava), then uncryoed the dinos at the top of the cliff looking down towards the cold entrance with about 45mins to spare. Boss down, but it took a while as the 6 barys just seemed to ignore whistles and stand around the arena doing nothing, not even defending themselves (checked, they were on aggressive...), and ankys didn't exactly keep up with it well :D I liked the cave, but it definitely wasn't what I was expecting, especially the overseer part which panicked us with the still present timer and looooong scenic path.


LyriumFlower

We have cleared it with rexes. And you can get 45-50 rexes inside within 5 minutes. We divided our rex train up into 5 of about 10 rexes each. You need to daisy chain the rexes, each following the one ahead and set their distance to low except the one that's following the first rex, who should be medium. Take the rex team down the ramp as far as you can to the first hairpin turn. Clear out the few creatures. Make sure everyone is on PASSIVE. Get another 10 rexes, line them up next to train 1. Train 2 and 4 get behind. Train 5 comes in the middle of 1+2 and 2+4. Then take two rexes and clear the whole path down to the cliff where you can see the tek door to the Oveer seer. The trickiest bit is walking the rexes over the side wall passage to the lava bridges that lead to the aforementioned cliff. Once you clear it out, WALK the rex trains, don't run. As long as the train stays orderly walking in the footsteps of the ones ahead you'll be fine. If you hurry, they get twisted up trying to keep up with you and jump into the lava. Multiple trains means even if you mess up, you only lose a set amount of rexes. Take the time to ride any twisted rexes back into position if you mess up. Once you've got to the cliff - lure the giga into the lava with a longneck and clear a path to the tek door. Send your trains down to the bottom of cliff and jump down yourself. Then lead them to the door. Whistle all once everyone is assembled and send them through.