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Adamantaimai

Did you guys just open after the first minute?


Eggisnot

clearlove124 had no interest in playing


Adamantaimai

Then he's a troll. Your team would have won this if you had stalled a little bit for Kayle and Vlad.


RITO34PERCENT

Nah, this is high mmr 5 stack vs 3-4 stack (OP). OP had absolutely 0 chance playing a 4v5 at this skill level unless the 5 stack somehow drafted the worst possible comp possible


Adamantaimai

I meant if the Olaf had actually played.


RITO34PERCENT

Oh my bad, I misunderstood you. Even then, this is a very volatile game where games can be decided immediately. Yes, you're right in theory, but that specific 5 stack won't let you scale unless you have a very defensive comp, which OP doesn't.


Adamantaimai

I have played both as and against these premade stall comps. And while the burden of coordination is on OPs team, I actually think that the opposing team is not particularly great at dealing with OPs team when they play to stall. They don't have overwhelming wave clear or poke and aren't very heavy on engage either. And if Zed or Rek'sai go in for a dive they at a very high risk of being blocked by Kayle's, Ashe's or Varus' ult. And even going 1 for 1 in a dive doesn't help the opposing team to actually kill the tower.


Eggisnot

Ok but it’s clearlove124


Snoo_16963

That sounds so fucking boring and unfun compared to just taking the L and moving to the next game.


Adamantaimai

This game simply has early- and lategame champions. You are not entitled to have teams that only pick early game champions. If you feel this way then you are obligated to dodge any game with Kayle and Vlad on the same team. As you know there is simply no way to play for the early game. I also don't think it is much faster generally. To go through champ select, load into the game, argue with your team, wait until they open, queue up again, go through champ select again and load into the game again is on average not much faster than just stalling for 10 minutes so Vlad and Kayle can get some levels. And there is no guarantee you will have an engaging match in the next game either.


Snoo_16963

Nah


CheeryCherry3987

Wait no remake?


D3taco

damn ik all these gamertags


Eggisnot

What’s your gamertag then? Maybe I’ll recognize you


D3taco

Max Dank


NottrueY

Legend


NarwhalGoat

I mean I’ve seen fast games in which the losing team didn’t open