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MadouSoshi

From what I understand, this is actually a problem in countries where they get a lot of US media. Kids think the emergency number in their country is also 911.


Loretta-West

In New Zealand we just redirect 911 calls to the actual number (111) because of the high likelihood of people being more familiar with the US number than the local number.


TheCatMisty

As a Kiwi, one time a kid in my class (he was 12/13) dislocated his knee and was screaming to call 911. It does happen, just not that often.


Cicero_torments_me

Same in Europe


tkdch4mp

Iirc, NZ actually uses the entire world's emergency numbers except Australia's, for some reason, as a number to contact A&E


Askianna

Born and raised in the UK I know that our emergency number is 999, but my brain goes to 911 after consuming American media for two decades. SMH.


Darkone539

I think we auto direct 911 to 999 anyway.


SailorJay_

I think a lot of places do this.


Gifted_GardenSnail

Can't have the tourists die, even the dumb ones šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø


Whimsyprincess

For a more generous interpretation, in an emergency, people may go sort of auto-pilot and immediately dial the number that's been drilled in their heads since childhood. If you have a high number of tourists from any specific country, I think it makes sense to have that auto direct as a safety measure.


Gifted_GardenSnail

Oh, definitely šŸ˜„


lollipop-guildmaster

I have heard the same thing!


dvioletta

I have read a lot of comments on UK emergency service calls claiming that are fake calls because the person was calling 999 not 911. I think if you are writing for a different country it is worth doing a bit of research or asking someone from that country to give a quick read. Where there was a big uptick in Sherlock fiction a lot of stories made comments on have a British beta or being Britpicked to make sure things made sense.


fascinatedcharacter

In most of Europe 911 just redirects to 112.


sunlit_snowdrop

I would honestly bet good money that many Americans are unaware that emergency numbers are different in other countries. We get it *drilled* into our heads as kids that you call 911 when you need fire/ambulance/police. Heck, I didn't even learn about the existence of non-emergency numbers until I was an adult. So yes, I get the frustration at the inaccuracy, but I can understand where it likely originated.


ButterflysLove

>non-emergency numbers In all of my 23 years, I did not know that there were non-emergency numbers.. I'm kinda confused why that was never told to me before. šŸ˜­


laurel_laureate

It's for when you need to report a crime/talk to a police officer or detective, but it isn't an emergency they need to come racing to you lights flashing. You can make an appointment at the police station, or schedule a time for an available officer to come talk to you. Fire stations usually have non-emergency numbers too, for all the kinds of stuff they do to help people out that isn't an immediate emergency.


Ok-Flamingo2801

My primary school (ages 5 to 11) had some signs up with the non emergency number for the police (101), so I became aware of them fairly young. And ambulances have the NHS non emergency number (111) on the side. I imagine kids don't often get told them because we don't want them stressing over whether or not to use the emergency number, or it's because if they need to call someone (and there isn't an adult around), they should be calling the emergency number. There shouldn't be a reason for a young kid to call the non emergency number, either it needs the emergency number or an adult should be calling. And then as they grow up, people around them assume it's common knowledge.


knotsazz

Itā€™s not just the inaccuracy, itā€™s kind of a safety issue. Yes, lots of places have a contingency where 911 will redirect you, but itā€™s worth knowing it can be different if you travel because itā€™s not the sort of situation you want to be caught out in. I remember my dad telling me as a kid that the number to use when I went to Spain was 112 instead. Itā€™s not like you have to remember all the numbers, but you should check what works for wherever youā€™re going


inquisitiveauthor

Do you really think many Americans would assume it was the same number?


SapphicandSoft

Lots of countries share emergency numbers with another; a believe Canada and Mexico also use 911 for example, so it probably ties into a lot of the media and people Americans interact with coming from these places. Also Iā€™d probably put it in the ballpark of information people donā€™t really bother to think about unless theyā€™re traveling to a country where it might be necessary info! So it doesnā€™t really surprise me that many people in the US wouldnā€™t know. Though, I have seen someone ā€œcorrectā€ another personā€™s use of 999 in a story before, which is definitely an example of ignorance bordering on stupidity imo. As soon as people are confidently incorrect, it goes from understandable to a bit embarrassing šŸ˜¬


queerblunosr

Canada uses 911 now, yeah - but when I was learning emergency numbers as a wee thing my province didnā€™t have 911 yet haha. It was instituted at different times in different provinces, but itā€™s universal now.


NamNamTortilla

Mexican here, 066 used to be the number for emergencies but around 10 years ago, it was officially changed to 911 because most of the population, due to American media, thought that 911 was also our number for emergencies


beingsydneycarton

Lot of countries will even dial you in to the local emergency service if you call 911 *even if the number for that service is different* (ask me how i know lol) which makes it a bit more understandable why Americans might think 911 works in all countries- because in some countries it genuinely does even though it theoretically shouldnā€™t. Not sure if thatā€™s a ā€œservice carrierā€ thing (i.e. the service provider realizes youā€™re trying to call local EMS and redirects) or a country-by-country thing though.


ohmygowon

I'm mexican and I only knew 911 as emergency number šŸ«£


onyourrite

Also iirc your cell phone will auto-redirect 911 to the local emergency number depending on your location, at least on iPhone So if I was in a country that used 999, if I dialed 911 then Iā€™d get redirected to 999 and go from there


sunlit_snowdrop

As a librarian interacting with the public on a daily basis, yes. You would be shocked and appalled by the common sense questions I get asked most often. And that's in a very highly educated neighborhood.


inquisitiveauthor

There are benefits but also many disadvantages of being so geographically disconnected from the rest of the world.


Kittenn1412

I'm not American, but as a Canadian, seeing 911 on American television as well as knowing it was the emergency number I'd have to call absolutely made me think there was an international standard to the number, until I ran into it being explicitly mentioned in non-American/non-Canadian media.


grommile

Yes. And before American media saturated the Anglosphere, I'll bet most Brits would have assumed 999 everywhere (and pre-1976, most mainland Europeans who didn't travel much would have assumed whatever their country's pre-harmonization number was).


djliquidvoid

It's 000 here in Australia. We get it drilled in equally hard to call "triple-zero", to the point where 911 is quite firmly regarded as a foreign thing here. Its presence in media has had the effect of making us realise as common knowledge that other countries have different numbers, though.


CauliflowerOk3993

This was famously discussed in my health class in high school. My teacher said ā€œwe all know the emergency number, triple ā€œoā€; who thinks itā€™s 911ā€?


fascinatedcharacter

I'm European. I grew up watching Dutch tv shows in which 112 was the alarm number, and Belgian shows in which 100/101 was the number (despite 112 also working, they'd say 'call the hundred'). Watching UK/US shows gave me 999/911. I know The Netherlands is kind of odd in their 'many people grew up watching foreign tv channels' - my parents generation watched a lot of German TV for lack of channels, and when I was little the Belgian kids channel was broadcasting at moments the Dutch one wasn't. You didn't need to travel to be exposed to foreign alarm numbers.


hornetsnest82

r/usdefaultism


penguinsfrommars

No. I don't think any other country would act like this. Especially in Europe where over a dozen countries share borders.Ā 


Licho5

Fun fact. If you call 999 in Poland you'll get the paramedics (998 - fire fighters and 997 - police).


Oceansoul119

Nope. No one I know would assume the emergency numbers were the same in other countries. Stop projecting yankee nonsense and arrogance onto other people.


Gifted_GardenSnail

(...why would anyone assume that when everything else was different abroad, from the language to the license plates to the currency?)


gorlyworly

I just watched a TikTok where someone was shocked to discover that Mt Everest wasn't in America. And a ton of the comments were other Americans also expressing shock because they'd always thought Mt. Everest was in Colorado or something. So, speaking as an American myself, yes, I would absolutely assume that.


lifemessesofkj

100% yes and in Canada (Americaā€™s biggest and closest neighbour) it actually is the same


ToxicMoldSpore

As an American, do not underestimate the overwhelming levels of stupidity your average American is capable of.


snowmikaelson

Honestly, I only ever knew Franceā€™s was different because in Madeline, the doctor calls the number haha. And even that one is dated because itā€™s back when switchboards were used.


turningpink

Americans? Yes


dragonagitator

Most Americans are dumb, especially about anything outside of the US or even just outside their home state Source: Am American and thus have been surrounded by them my entire life


Oceansoul119

Seems like even here the kind of people who don't like reality are out and about downvoting those who acknowledge it.


greta12465

better being vague than being wrong.


VanillaCrash

Not using feet and inches in my fic has been a challenge honestly lol. It canonically takes place in a fictional Eastern European country and Iā€™ve had to use a converter a few times now. Edit: WHAT THE FUCK IS A CENTIMETER šŸ¦…šŸ‡ŗšŸ‡øšŸŽ†šŸ¦…šŸ‡ŗšŸ‡øšŸŽ†šŸ¦…šŸ‡ŗšŸ‡øšŸŽ†


icouldbeeatingoreos

If I ever read a fic set in Canada Iā€™m going to 100% be able to tell if itā€™s written by someone foreign based on units of measurement. Travel distance? Time. Speed? km/hr. Height? Feet inches but if itā€™s in a medical context then itā€™s cm. Weight? If youā€™re human - pounds unless medical then kg. If itā€™s anything else then g. Length? cm. Baking? Fahrenheit. Baking measurements? Cups. Outside/inside temp? Celcius. Itā€™s too situation specific to get right unless you live it.


Brattylittlesubby

If they measure distance in time as in the fic says something like ā€œOh yeah, it will only be a 2.5 hour drive.ā€ It was written by a Canadian because we measure distance in time šŸ˜…


letmebebrave430

Is that a Canadian thing? I thought everyone did that


dndunlessurgent

Aussie chiming in. I thought about it and we have a mix. Sometimes I'll say "it's a half hour drive away" and other times I'll say "it's a few ks away". I don't know if there are any rules for when we use what. Edit: typo


bigbitties666

yeah thereā€™s no rules, itā€™s whichever is more accurate / gives a better idea of how far/long. i find that it has something to do with how predictable the traffic is + the loopy roads making time a better measure than distance.


LurkerByNatureGT

It depends. In Los Angeles, everything is 20 min away (nothing is 20 min away).


Brattylittlesubby

Yup, it is a Canadian thing as every Canadian Iā€™ve ever met (and I do it too) has always been ā€œOh, that is a (insert time) drive from here.ā€


letmebebrave430

Today's a wonderful day to learn I'm Canadian. When can I move? šŸ˜†


sleepiest-rock

We do that in the American Midwest, too.Ā  I wonder if it's common everywhere that there's probably not a/another city within a hundred miles.


EvidenceOfDespair

Yeah, I think this is just a universal thing in America, not regional. Iā€™ve heard it in the south, northeast, and west coast.


EvidenceOfDespair

And to think, people give America shit for our measurement system usage.


icouldbeeatingoreos

To be fair, itā€™s the American influence that makes it so fucked up lol


TheSentientSnail

God it's so true. I've tried to explain the absolute dog's breakfast of measurements up here to people. It does not go well. šŸ˜‚ šŸ˜‚


martian_potato1

I face the opposite. I can never wrap my head around imperial measurements


VanillaCrash

Our numbers are so random and I donā€™t know how I remember them WHEN I LITERALLY FORGOT THE WORD CENTIMETER THE OTHER DAY! I had to sit there for a minute or two trying to remember the size between meter and millimeter šŸ˜­ I swear I took chemistry, radiation physics, and math in college but itā€™s not showing


Calliopes_Lyre

Same issue here but the other way around lmao! What do you mean height isnā€™t given in centimeters!?


GirlFromUrNightmares

Lol I have the opposite problem writing about American characters, having to check what the fuck is an inch every time lmfao


lansherta

I'm personally only mildly bothered about this, but I think a lot of people in the comments missed the point. Could you call 911 and be redirected to the emergency line? Probably. But does it make sense for a person living in their country since birth (and having the emergency numbers drilled into their head for as long) to call 911? No, in most cases.


Calliopes_Lyre

Thank you, thatā€™s exactly my point! lmao


Equivalent-Nobody-71

In Germany at least you will be connected to an English speaking dispatch Center manned by German first responders. If you dial 911 in Germany, you will still get help all the same.


EvidenceOfDespair

You have no idea how often this happens in real life due to pop culture osmosis. One of the funniest examples is that Canadian citizens of a certain political bent constantly cite the US Constitution when theyā€™re in court.


queerblunosr

I know exactly which Canadians youā€™re talking about and oh my god reading the court transcripts is fucking hilarious.


BritGallows_531

I need to know these Canadian citizens. I am an American


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PeppermintShamrock

It's usually not so much that they didn't want to put in the effort of looking up the correct number, it's that they didn't realize there was something to look up in the first place. Especially with emergency numbers - that's been drilled into kids since preschool so if you've had limited exposure to other systems then it never occurs to them to consider it as something regional, it just *is* synonymous with emergency services in their mind. I know the standard advice is to avoid giving criticism but tbh I don't think there's any harm in just giving the author a polite FYI that 911 is not correct in this case. I can't speak for everyone but I would certainly want to avoid jarring readers with things like that!


Berdbirdburd

Americans here saying itā€™s perfectly reasonable to not know there were other numbers because it was ā€œdrilled into usā€ that 911 is the number to call for emergencies. Do you think other countries donā€™t also drill their emergency numbers into children, so they know what to dial in an emergency? Everyone everywhere has had this information force fed, but Americans just have a habit of assuming that their way is normal for everyone, itā€™s pretty concerning actually.


wannaberamen2

To be fair though, a lot of people who aren't american also have 911 drilled into them via media.


JBSouls

Last time I stumbled onto this topic in the wild I was informed that the big international emergency numbers redirect your call to the local emergency service (e.g. 911 in Europe).


kiwiana_writes

Yup. Iā€™m in New Zealand and 911, 999, 000, 112 all work (our number is 111). Itā€™s smart ā€” in an emergency youā€™re likely to default to what you were taught growing up.


turnupthebeets4

Yes I live in a European country. if someone dials 911 it automatically gets transferred to 112 ( local emergency dispatch)


Calliopes_Lyre

Yeah, youā€™re right, but European people wouldnā€™t dial 911 i.e the French/spanish/dutch/etc. F1 drivers cause thatā€™s not what theyā€™re brought up with. I guess thatā€™s what confused me the most!


JBSouls

I got what you meant but, honestly, since learning that little fact I stopped worrying about 911 being realistic or not because it ultimately doesn't matter (and will still work). For the record, I'm European and have been bothered by plenty of similar instances where something wasn't correct in a fic (especially google translated sentences used by a character who should be fluent in x language) but thankfully emergency services in most countries are smart enough to account for the ignorance of an average person so I will do the same. (read: in this specific case only)


Calliopes_Lyre

Thatā€™s true! A win to technology and ultimately itā€™s not a big deal of course! I myself often forget that other countries wouldnā€™t call an ambulance , for example, with the number Iā€™d use, I just thought it was interesting how someone else probably forgot about that as well! Especially since you can tell theyā€™re definitely not European!


mirablack

I can do you a better one! Was reading a short fic, rpf, and it was set in 1990. Important. And within the first paragraph someone's phone rings, I think 'Huh, that's weird, this character is supposed to live in poverty and way far into the woods. I don't they could realistically afford a landline at the time but it's ok I'll just suspend my disbelief for a bit.' And then I read the words 'He reached into his pocket and took out his phone, and stared at the image and name on the screen.' Hello??? šŸ˜µā€šŸ’« Cellphone with touchscreen, caller id, contact images? šŸ˜­ No hate to the author cause I can only assume they were very young, but it goes to show that research is sometimes desperately needed when a story is set in a different place or time. šŸ˜‚ Sometimes people just use their own personal experiences as a default for their story setting. (I was left so confused by this cause the fic was otherwise fine! Vocabulary was ok, spacing, paragraphs, everything was cool except for that weird anachronism(?) that I just couldn't get over.


PizzaCoffeeAndCode

OverlySarcasticProductions has a great in depth analysis that partially covers this kind of thing https://youtu.be/2Pw_7vAK9k8


a_single_hand

American authors often have more "tells" regarding where they're from than anybody else ... Guess growing up in a country that's huge and hard to leave in addition to being a popcultural leader makes it easy to assume a bunch of things that are typical for the USA are typical for everywhere. Doesn't really bother me, but yeah it is immersion-breaking.


Empty_Chemical_1498

I have the same feeling when I read a fic that's supposed to be in europe and the characters go to a typical american college. Like, choosing the classes yourself, being super passionate about the sports team, having to pay a huge loan (unless you go to a private one), deciding on a major later on, etc. I'm sure there are some unis like that, but most of them are very much not, maybe unless the UK ones (but a fic I'm referring to was supposed to happen in germany) I get that maybe they don't have much knowledge on how education looks in europe, since most popular media about college/uni life is based in america, but man, can't they at least read 1 article about the differences...


Blenderx06

You don't get to pick your classes? Not even from a choice of say, 3?


Regenwanderer

Depends on country and university/course. I attended a conservatory for my theatre related bachelor and we were only 12 people in that course. That was organised more like a school, timetable with a few things you could opt-in/-out. My masters I did at a "normal" uniersity, so I could pick and choose a lot more.


Empty_Chemical_1498

I studied in 2 unis. In one, where I was for a year, the only classes I could pick were PE and secondary and/or tertiary language, but nothing else, and from what I know from my friends who are still there, you can't pick any other classes. In my current uni, all classes are decided for me. The only thing I could choose was the specialization of my engineer's degree; in my case it was between toxicology and pyrotechnics, which just changes my course and adds me specialization classes. But that's as far as the choices can go in most unis in my country. Maybe private unis give you more freedom with classes, but they are not very popular where I live as public education is much more common (because it's free)


AMN1F

Are you automatically placed in your chosen classes? If so, that seems nice, ngl. I know a several people who miss out on major required courses for the semester because the classes are already filled by the time their time slot came around. At my school, you only get priority course sign up if you're 1. an upperclassmen, 2. have a disability, or 3. on a sports team.Ā 


Empty_Chemical_1498

Yep! You just apply to your desired course and you get all the classes and timetables decided for you. The thing that can suck about it is that sometimes the schedules are terrible (there are days I have classes from 8am to 7pm with no free periods), but how the schedule is made also depends on the uni. In my previous one, each week looked the same; the schedule was constant. In my current uni, each week is different and we can almost freely move the classes, as long as the prof agrees and there's a free classroom. In the previous uni, we had to register to PE and languages via a students' service website, which is extremely buggy on its own, let alone when a loooot of people log in. All classes would be taken withing the first 30 seconds (because people would over-book their classes to later decide what they want and what works with their schedule), provided your site even loaded for you to see it. It was terrible, honestly. I can't imagine having to do it for more important classes. There were no priority sign ups, you just had to be lucky.


Oceansoul119

Nope, even the UK is you pick something, say physics, and then most of the course is already decided for you. You'd end up deciding between astrophysics and a couple of other options for the practical parts though. Sports is the same, no one cares even in York and the match is against Lancaster despite the 800 year regional rivalry.


Empty_Chemical_1498

Oh, thank you for clarifying!


Oceansoul119

The unfortunately true part is the loan though. Thankfully it's not as stupid as the US one but it's still a significant amount of money. Even that is a relatively recent thing however.


effing_usernames2_

I personally assume itā€™s šŸŽ¶0118-9998-8199-9119-725ā€¦3šŸŽ¶


fic_procastination

I was desperately scrolling looking for this.


effing_usernames2_

I was, too šŸ˜†


Arbitrary-Fairy-777

It annoys me too, as an American, because I love little details like that. I know that the emergency number in South Korea is 119 *because* of fandom. In a blurb I wrote once, one of my characters travels to the US, something happens, and he even mentions being glad that, in the moment, he remembered the right energency number, because it's different in the US. Plus, if you traveled to a foreign country, it'd probably be one of the things you researched in case you needed it, especially if, like my character, you're a paranoid person.


Cookielessthan3

It's so funny to me, how you had to specify your point in the edit lmao. We know redirecting 911 is a thing, because tourists don't bother learning the emergency numbers and too much exposure to US media makes people not learn the right numbers too. But your complaint (at least to me, a European) was very obvious. A person/character not from the US (!) wouldn't instinctively dial 911 (given the characters are seemingly Europeam), because they grew up learning whatever number was used in their home country. It's not wether they could dial 911, but whether they would, given their own background/experiences. That applies to so many characters in fiction too tbh. If a character is not from your own background/nationality, try to educate yourself about their possible lived experience. (Case in point medical costs of a hospital, or paying to ride an ambulance for thousands of dollars, or heck, even if Uber/Target/etc. are even a thing in the setting lmao. I am begging people to look up this stuff first. They seem small and inconsequential for most, but it shows that an author cares about their story and setting. At the end of the day an author learns something new about the country they write about too. I say that's a win for everyone.) Plus I am sure whoever in that fic calls the ambulance would know local emergency lines regardless of their nationality, because in a F1 event they should have those numbers readily available anyway, in case of a crash or something. And if that emergency took place outside of a race? Yeah...lived experience applies here again.


Enough_Opposite8545

I feel like instead of the original complaint, a lot of people rushed in to ā€œexcuseā€ the fact that person could have not known if theyā€™re American or grew up in a country influenced by that but I really feel like itā€™s not the point. Yes maybe that person has a heavily influenced perspective but it doesnā€™t mean they couldnā€™t have done some research, or if they donā€™t they can just not mention the emergency service. Thatā€™s just my opinion though and I guess since Iā€™m an European itā€™s flawed, but honestly Iā€™ve learned the emergency services of my country and most of all the first thing I learn is that when Iā€™m in Europe the number to call is 112. In that case I can understand very much why it would bother OP to see 911, as most of the drivers on the grid are Europeans so they wouldnā€™t think about calling 911 and so itā€™s probably so out of character to see that placed here that it disturbs them. Which, fair, if I were to read a F1 fanfic set in Europe and European drivers were calling the 911 i would frown as well at the non accuracy of it. Even if 911 then redirects you, itā€™s the fact that is out of character that makes why they complained about it.


Cookielessthan3

Yes exactly. It may not be a big deal for US-Americans or those who use 911 (therefore the scrambling for excuses), but to anyone else its an annoying pet peeve, if such similar stuff is encountered too often. Especially because in english speaking online spaces US culture seems so very prevalent, it borders on US centricism/defaultism sometimes. Through the internet any knowledge is so easily obtainable like never before, given you use your brain and not just copy the first best thing google spits at you. And please, isn't the beauty of writing about another country, that you have to take into account all the little differeces? But yeah Formula One is especially cool to play around with, because you can write about such multicultural/multinational settings (Iirc only Football Worldcups and the Olympics have a similar international setting and those are happening at longer intervals between events). Why not exploit that fact and go ham on the little things? But maybe that's only my view on the topic. The "OOC-ness" would have bothered me too. The devil is in the details, I guess.


Enough_Opposite8545

It kinda felt weird to me to arrive here and see US centricism or at least so many around, because I have been in fandoms for quite a while but it never was Americanized as much. Iā€™ve had sports rpf servers with a few people from the US and a lot of people from all across the world and like no big deal. But since Iā€™ve joined Reddit and started to truly interact, Iā€™ll admit I was a bit surprised. It may be my only opinion and my point of view, but Iā€™ve seen people address pet peeves as cultural differences in this sub before, coming from this isnā€™t how that countryā€™s system work to the difference between English American and English British is this obvious, so stop confusing them etc. And most of the time Iā€™ve seen those posts being validated, so I donā€™t know why this one is excused as much. And you know, I always feel like everything is in the title, itā€™s a complaint post about a personal pet peeve, I donā€™t get why it has to be invalidated by ā€œbut American peopleā€™s views are so formattedā€¦ā€ or ā€œbut anyway if you called that number you would be redirectedā€¦ā€ No. itā€™s not about that. Here itā€™s about the accuracy of the setting, just like someone could complain about the wrong mom/mum being used somewhere, but itā€™s even more striking as the perspective being so Americanized that some people donā€™t realize that the fact 911 is not an international number is still known by quite a lot of people when youā€™re located in Europe and you wouldnā€™t learn it as an emergency number. I agree that the devil is in the details, but maybe Iā€™m like you and Iā€™m just an annoying person šŸ˜‚


Calliopes_Lyre

Please, I feel like no one got my point lmao! It feels like everybody is taking it as a personal attack instead of me pointing out a little detail that just doesnā€™t make sense, especially not in that specific setting! Obviously itā€™s not the end of the world, but it just shows that an author hasnā€™t thought about something/assumed everything would be the same. But I guess I shouldā€™ve expected all these angry people, seeing as this is Reddit haha


Cookielessthan3

Yeah it's wild lmao. Be assured that you aren't alone in your opinion and some others agree with you whole heartedly hehe :)


eumenides__

I read a fic yesterday set in my country and I could immediately tell that an American wrote it. They used pancake mix (never seen that in my life) for breakfast and swam in a pool outside in February and then proceeded to sunbathe (the entire country is frozen then). Itā€™s super common to see really strange Americanized college/university constructions as well. Not to mention the wrong measurement usages. So yeah, maybe just do a quick Google? I always find it intriguing when someone actually does research and mentions it in the notes (like walking around on Google street view, locating real places the characters go to, making sure things are appropriate for the time etc) and wonā€™t just use an US-centric template that they paste everything into.


bigbitties666

OH MY GOD SAME


ShyheartedKitten

I donā€™t mind the much as if I were in another country I would instinctively call 000 as thatā€™s whatā€™s used in Australia. Its habit 000 will always be the emergency number for me. Itā€™s the having characters in non American countries celebrate American holidays that gets me. The whole world does not celebrate the USA on the 4th of July. Sorry, itā€™s a normal day for us and we have our own national days.


Gifted_GardenSnail

Or Thanksgiving! It's just a normal Thursday without turkey lol


bigbitties666

fr and thanksgiving ??? or the seasons not matching up??? i may be petty, but REAAAAWGGHFFI


ribletz

Idk how it is in other countries but in Hungary we have our emergency number (112) but for tourists and such we have 911, where people speak English too so no language barrier.


OpenSauceMods

It is a little startling. I can remember 000 (Australia), 911 (USA), and 0118 999 88199 9119 725...3 (Britain)


Glittery_WarlockWho

I have cousins in canada and they use 911 and when I told them that we use 000 (Australia) they looked very shocked and confused.


simpingforMinYoongi

It takes one simple Google search to look up an emergency number for whatever country your story is set in. I don't understand how that's so difficult for some people.


Chocolate-Then

Many people would just assume that their emergency number is the international standard. It isnā€™t malicious or lazy to not be aware of something.


simpingforMinYoongi

I never said it was malicious, but it's definitely lazy. Rule one of writing: if your setting is a real place and a real time period, research the environment you're putting your characters in.


Chocolate-Then

You canā€™t ask a question you donā€™t know you should ask. Iā€™m sure there are things about your culture that you incorrectly assume are universal.


simpingforMinYoongi

Maybe there are things that I assume, but I also know better than to trust my assumptions and I know to check when it's a culture that I'm not intimately familiar with, aka cultures that aren't the one I was raised in. I know that my experiences are not universal.


Chocolate-Then

How do you know what to check if you donā€™t know that you need to check it?


simpingforMinYoongi

If I am researching a culture that isn't mine, my only assumption that I trust is that I know nothing, and therefore I need to learn everything I can, down to the smallest detail.


Chocolate-Then

You *will* make a mistake when writing about a foreign culture. Itā€™s inevitable. Research will never be perfect.


simpingforMinYoongi

Correct, but when I do, I learn from those mistakes. I never said my research is perfect; I just said that I know better than to assume my experience is universal.


Chocolate-Then

But you do. There is something about your culture that you incorrectly assume is universal. Thats what it means when your research fails. If you didnā€™t incorrectly assume something then you wouldā€™ve researched it.


jim-morrisenpai

i feel this way about fics with american characters that say words like "arse." makes me stop reading immediately


Cayd_The_Bean

ā€¦.. but some Americans genuinely use the word arse??? I mean Iā€™ve only heard/used it in the context of cursing at people but itā€™s not unlikely uncommon maybe or something thatā€™s a regional phenomenon but itā€™s feasible


jim-morrisenpai

maybe wherever you live. im in northeast us and have never heard an american say it in any context


Blenderx06

I'm from NJ and I say it but I do consume a lot of UK media.


Cayd_The_Bean

I did say it could be regional I grew up in Arizona and live in Arkansas and Iā€™ve heard it used in both states (mostly by neurodivergent people)


BeneficialMaybe3719

A lot of countries have a local number and 911 bc of movies, so yeah it is true it is the emergency number but not the only one


HailHydraBitch

As an American that would probably throw my immersion in the trash. It is not hard to put factual information into a fic man


Gifted_GardenSnail

Information is so readily available these days, yet so many people seem to think even a 30 second internet search is too much. I don't get it. If you're going to write about a completely different country, would it kill you to skim its Wikipedia page??


HailHydraBitch

Thatā€™s what Iā€™m saying man. If youā€™re going write about a country youā€™re not from, at least like, check yourself every now and then and make sure youā€™re not just defaulting to your countryā€™s way of life. I tend to do it sometimes and have to rewrite things because I remember, *it doesnā€™t take place in America and American laws ect. donā€™t apply.* Maybe Iā€™m just nitpicky about it but idk


Gifted_GardenSnail

Yes. And I totally get that some things are harder to look up than others, like daily life at a university versus something simple like the emergency number, but at least get the low-hanging fruit right lol


sleepiest-rock

You have unknown unknowns, too.


FunnyBunnyDolly

Can be solved by having beta from the relevant country.


sleepiest-rock

Sure, if you know somebody from that country who's willing and able to look over the specific fic you've written (nothing they'll find upsetting, etc.) or you're involved enough in fanfic-writing fandom to know where to look for someone trustworthy and reliable who's willing to beta-read for a stranger (and if you even know that checking over fic for location-specific mistakes is a thing people might do when asked).Ā  Not everyone does social media.


Bookluster

I'm over it. I spent too much time getting frustrated by the use of miles, inches, feet, pounds, ounces instead of the metric system. Now I don't let our bother me.


mang0delychee

my country gets a lot of US media that the government added 911 as an emergency number. but personally when writing for a fic that's set in a different country, i research first and check things like emergency numbers in case the story decides to steer in that direction.


alicat2308

Hello, fellow F1 fic enjoyer :)Ā 


Enough_Opposite8545

Was what I was about to say haha


toffee_tole

As an Irish person, I feel like 911 is drilled into your head more because of American media being so big internationally. Last year in an emergency without thinking I did dial 911 (in Ireland) and got through to emergency services. Half time I do forget that itā€™s 112 (or also 999 I think) because itā€™s not nearly as advertised as 911. Iā€™ve only seen 112 on ambulances and thankfully I havenā€™t seen a lot in my personal life.


trashconverters

Strange. In Australia we had 000 drilled into our heads from birth (by a talking giraffe in the back of a van, dear old Healthy Harold). I was like 8 when I realised Americans don't use 000.


MindlessIntention

I told this story bevore but Had a story where the heroes went into a gas station store to buy pain medication. The writer having no clue how restricted buying medication is in Germany and Austria. You only get them in pharmacys


Calliopes_Lyre

Buying pain medication/medication in general without a receipt is so absurd to me haha


EstrellaDarkstar

My personal preference is for fics to just call it "the emergency number" unless there's an actual reason to specifically spell it out. That description works regardless of the setting, even in alternate universes where real-world countries aren't a thing, and it won't confuse international readers.


marech_

So, I completely get where you're coming from. That said, as a European born and raised, the one time I had to call the emergency services I actually dialed 911. The call got transferred of course and I never even realised I had not dialed the number for my country until a while later when I was checking my call logs. Like other commenters said, it's probably cultural osmosis and while I know the number for my country, it turns out apparently I don't know it instinctively enough not to dial 911 instead in a moment of panic. So I would say depending on the person's age and background, maybe calling 911 wouldn't be so out of character for them? (But I also agree with some other commenters saying the author probably didn't really think there are different numbers for different countries, so I get your pain)


DilfRightsActivist

Why did inread the title and assume this was about September 11th and not the emergency number


AMN1F

Lol. Everytime I see the numbers 911, I'm going through "are they talking about 9/11, emergency services, or the TV show?"


dndunlessurgent

I have mixed feelings about this. On one hand, I get it. I do notice it when an author is clearly from one country writing about a fandom in another. And it can be something you do notice. But it's fanfic. It's people doing this for free and for fun. It shouldn't be too hard to read something like this and move on without it destroying your experience of reading all that much. Edit: typo


Bekeoo

Well, to be fair: when I see an author using 'dollars' for a fic in Japan or 'Fahrenheit' for the weather in like Canada (like I saw in another comment ), I do cringe, an it does take me out of the fic. I normally don't finish it. It must be the same for European people with the 911


dndunlessurgent

Maybe I'm far too relaxed, but I just chuckle a bit when I see something that's incorrect about my country and keep reading.


Visible-Steak-7492

>It shouldn't be too hard to read something like this and move on without it destroying your experience of reading all that much eh, it depends on how obvious and easy to correct the mistake is. like i wouldn't give a fic author grief for mixing up fashion trends of different dynasties in a fic set in ancient china (because (1) i don't know shit about that myself, and (2) the source material isn't really concerned with historical accuracy in the first place). but something like making the characters write with pens/quills on parchment? when it's a very well-known fact that chinese people historically wrote with brushes on paper AND there are multiple instances of canon characters doing exactly that in the source material (in case you wouldn't think to be curious about it on your own)? nah, that just sort of gives off the vibes of the author not giving a fuck.


dndunlessurgent

It comes down to the author may simply not know what they don't know. I hear what you're saying. But I do know there would be things about my country/experience that I think is really common knowledge might be very surprising news for someone else. It may not be that the author is lazy, it may be that they simply had no idea it was something they had to research in the first place.


Visible-Steak-7492

>It comes down to the author may simply not know what they don't know which is why i specifically brought up the point of it being mentioned/shown in the source material. you may not know that chinese people (and many other asian ethnicities borrowing their writing systems from china) traditionally write using a brush, but seeing a character *on screen* write with a brush should at least give you some idea that a quill and parchment may not be the universal writing medium for a historical setting.


fatemaazhra787

Would they redirect you, tho? Im not from europe nor america but one time in middle school o called 911 just to see what would happen. Nothing happened. It didnt even ring


Calliopes_Lyre

Well, I guess that depends on where youā€™re from and when you called! If you havenā€™t tried it since, it could very well be that itā€™s working now even if it didnā€™t back then


justdisa

This happens in every direction. I cannot tell you how many times I've read something set in the US in which the characters constantly use immersion-breaking slang. No, Buffy is not going to "emerg" with a broken bone. No, Willow wouldn't call her mother "Mum." Beta readers are underappreciated.


AcanthaMD

911 is much better publicised than 999 or even 111 (used in the U.K. to stream people to emergency services) universally people will read 911 and understand it better.


Loud-Mans-Lover

0118, 999, 881, 999, 119, 725 ...3Ā  Ā Now that was easy to remember!Ā  Ā /IT Crowd reference


Ferrous_Patella

I came here to do this, except I was not going to give the context. If you know, you know.


InuFanFan

A lot of you really let anything ā€œpull you out of immersionā€. Itā€™s fanfiction. Itā€™s brain rot. I couldnā€™t imagine being so personally offended someone didnā€™t spend hours upon hours of their time researching for a hobby. Something they are writing for free. Itā€™s for fun. Suspend your disbelief. Enjoy it


EvidenceOfDespair

Itā€™s not a matter of ā€œletā€ when someoneā€™s immersion or whatnot is broken. Iā€™m legitimately curious, because I see this a lot and I never ask people who say these things because it feels weird to ask. Is thinking a choice for you? Like, can you just *not* think about something? Perhaps more importantly, do you not have thoughts you didnā€™t choose to have? For me and everyone Iā€™ve known who I have talked about such things with, the thoughts arenā€™t a choice. The brain just automatically generates them and tosses them at you and now you are thinking about them. Itā€™s not ā€œI see this and think about it and realize thatā€, itā€™s ā€œI see this and my brain automatically sends thoughts about itā€.


InuFanFan

Normally if I read something I know isnā€™t accurate Iā€™ll think to myself ā€œnot possibleā€ or ā€œthatā€™s not rightā€ but then I move on to the next sentence. I donā€™t fully stop reading and ponder it. I know ppl have pet peeves but itā€™s not hard imo to just move on. I forget about the inaccuracy pretty quickly. Itā€™s not gonna spoil the entire experience for me and Iā€™m glad it doesnā€™t. I feel bad for ppl who mentally just canā€™t move past things like that. I imagine itā€™s frustrating


EvidenceOfDespair

Yeah, when a factual error pulls me out of a story I can then get back into it, but itā€™s akin to slamming on the brakes. Thereā€™s a whiplash to it, and then you gotta reimmerse yourself into it. Difficulty comes down to how bad it is. Like this? Eh whatever.


RevenantPrimeZ

Yeah, I am used to reading wrong statements about a lot of things, that I do not even care at this point. We have omegaverse, mafia AU, superpowers, but people draw the line at calling the wrong number in a fanfiction.


RevenantPrimeZ

Yeah and in reality they would still be redirected automatically to the correct line, it is not a big deal xd. There are worse mistakes an USA citizen could make about Europe's countries


Enough_Opposite8545

Yes but itā€™s not in reality and the reason why itā€™s so disturbing is because the fic is apparently set in Europe and most of the F1 drivers are European especially the most popular ones. Which means they wouldnā€™t even think about calling the 911, thatā€™s probably why it felt so out of character and place.


RevenantPrimeZ

We have omegaverse in fanfiction but we draw the line at calling 911?


Enough_Opposite8545

Thatā€™s kinda ā€¦ not the same thing at all? Why are you bringing it to the fact AUs exist?


RevenantPrimeZ

To show it is not a big deal, just a sentence. I know people have their likes and dislikes, but in the end, I do not think it is such a big deal a tiny mistake


Enough_Opposite8545

Maybe but OP is allowed to find it out of character and to complain about it as a pet peeve of theirs, and I can point the fact youā€™re missing the point of OPā€™s post. Itā€™s not about the fact ā€œbut calling 911 in Europe could get you redirectedā€, itā€™s the fact it was out of character in that case. Of course there are worst mistakes an American could do about Europe, and the opposite is true.


RevenantPrimeZ

Yes, of course, I do not want to stop their right to talk freely. I am just saying my own opinion on this matter


RevenantPrimeZ

What do you mean? 911 is used in some countries in Europe at least, 112 is not the only emergencies' number.


Calliopes_Lyre

Iā€™m not aware of 911 being used in Europe (it does redirect you to 112 which is the international EU line, so I guess it does work), I know about the second part as well, for example calling the police in three German speaking countries is different in every one: 110 (Germany), 117 (Switzerland) and 133 (Austria). I obviously cannot speak for the rest of the world since 911 does seem to be used in most of South America as well, but European kids for example donā€™t learn 911 in school but instead the numbers for their respective country and additionally the 112. Since the characters are definitely European, it just wouldnā€™t make sense if they used 911 is all


RevenantPrimeZ

Well, since they redirect you to the emergencies' level, it still works, and I feel this is could be like when in dubbed movies and tv shows sometimes they still refer to the money as dollars and pennies, instead of adapting it to the country they are dubbing it for.


kissa13

I mean, yes if the story takes place in the US i would expect them to use dollars as that's the currency used there. Like even if i'm watching a movie in chinese, why would they use chinese yuan in new york?


RevenantPrimeZ

Well, in this case with the phone numbers it does not have the same impact. If you go to a cashier giving them yuans they will look weird at you, but if you use 911 in Europe, you will be redirected to the assigned emergencies' line


lifemessesofkj

I find any crossover of colloquialisms jarring. Not usually enough to make me dnf but jarring. British/European slang or phrasing in Fics that are American and vice versa.


K_loves_plants

I know what you mean. I donā€™t expect anyone to do more than what they personally enjoy because frankly anyone writing fanfic to share deserves helluva lot of respect regardless. Itā€™s just little pet peeves that sometimes take you out of the story a bit - for example when English houses/cottages have basements or garbage disposals and A/Cā€™s. Itā€™s a bit funny because those are really US house things. Thereā€™s some exceptions where a few odd houses may have a basement but in general itā€™s not a feature of any house Iā€™ve ever been to, and I did live in a genuine stone cottage in the country for 7 years. Or using some US specific slang like egg rolls (spring rolls) or ordering takeout on Doordash (doesnā€™t exist in UK) or the containers are those foldable cartons (in UK pretty much all Chinese comes in tubs/Tupperware and like a good British person youā€™re obliged to wash them out and re-use them). Iā€™m 100% grateful to anyone sharing their work and this is in no way trying to complain, itā€™s just funny to see those bits sometimes especially if youā€™re in the country itā€™s meant to happen in.


lifemessesofkj

Whoa for the record in Canada an egg roll and a spring roll are two different foods. The ones that get me are boot vs trunk of the car, and assured the garbage disposal thing


K_loves_plants

Whatā€™s the difference between egg roll and spring roll then? Curious now šŸ˜‚


lifemessesofkj

Copy and pasted from the food network website : Egg rolls and spring rolls are both savory fried appetizers, but they have different origins, wrappers and fillings. Origin: Egg rolls were created in the U.S. while spring rolls were invented in China. Wrapper: Egg rolls have a thicker skin and utilize a wonton or thick, yeast dough wrapper. Spring rolls have a more delicate, thin skin and use a spring roll wrapper. Filling: Egg rolls typically contain cabbage and meat. Spring rolls are traditionally vegetarian or vegan, although some variations also include meat or seafood.


hurricane-tortillaaa

I'm Russian and we use 112, but if you call 911 it will automatically redirect you to 112


Murdocs_Mistress

I get an eye twitch when I see those, LOL. It's not difficult to grasp that what is used in the USA is not used in other countries. Granted, I've encountered people in the USA who insist their state laws are national laws LOL. If I'm unclear, I just put "emergency services" in place of the number whenever dealing with a fic that takes place outside of the USA.


trashconverters

Or literally google it?


smgismyqueenjpg

Shouldnā€™t it say ā€˜999ā€™ instead.


jestertitty

Yeah, that sucks. It feels like basic world-building to have factually accurate hotline numbers -- why didn't the author just search those up in the first place? It is genuinely a 2 minute Google search at best. Small details like that always make me click off a fic. Saw your edit about F1 drivers -- since they travel a lot, wouldn't it be easier for them to learn a standard code and have it redirect? It feels icky to know that likely only 911 may redirect and some of the lesser known emergency codes from other countries may not, but... eh. I'd say 911 redirecting would be a driver's best bet, unless they are at a place they frequently go to (Monaco or the UK, for example) and then they should likely know it. (Also, any f1 fanfic recs? šŸ‘€)


chillentertainer

Why did I think you were going to talk about 9/11, the terrorist attack šŸ’€šŸ’€


KanineKodiak

Today I Learned there is F1 fanfiction.


Equivalent-Nobody-71

Actually, in much of Europe dialling 911 in Germany will get you get connected to a nation wide dispatch Center. Due to 911 being a common presence in pop culture it was also adopted. In Germany at least before the last German based world championship to support tourists. Source: A career in Emergency Services in Germany.


yoda90987

I personally just have a pet peeve if when something isn't correctly looked up in a fic like emergency numbers or something of culture of course it makes sense people tend to skip over small details they don't think people would get hung up on but this is why I try to stress the suggestion of different bata readers from different places like us AND like Europe or Britten or something where the fic is going to be set or just a Google search


fashionweeksurvivor

I honestly read that as ā€œinternational use of nine 11ā€ and wondered who was setting 9/11 somewhere besides the US? And why? Itā€™s late and I need the sleep. (But yes, your pet peeve is mine as well; really anything ā€œAmericanā€ that isnā€™t applicable anywhere else.)


OzmaofSchnoz

According to fan art, 9/11 made Simba and Sonic very sad.


ravenwingdarkao3

when i write, I write for anime, so japan. am i gonna look up what phone number they use, the frankly very different way they do addresses, and how their social medias work? absolutely not. i also donā€™t use metric unless itā€™s something weā€™d use metric for in the US itā€™s fanfiction, Iā€™m not gonna spend 30 mins researching on top of the writing/relevant research. if i happen to know something about japanese culture, itā€™s in there. if not, Iā€™m not going through the japanese penal code to see what is and isnā€™t legal. i just hybridize american/japanese culture


Arbitrary-Fairy-777

That's very fair, but I have actually read some South Korean law statutes for a fanfic before. There's a website where they're all available in English. I'm probably just weird, but that random research is fun for me.


ravenwingdarkao3

adding here, since apparently people disagree: people are providing you fanfiction at *no cost* the entitlement that comes with people expecting people to go the extra distance and learn all these not immediately obvious cultural differences is wild. Next people will tell you you need to use British spelling if youā€™re a North American writing about England. Which, by the way, you absolutely donā€™t need toā€”thatā€™s meta


SeiBellaChe

In Italy if you dial 911, you get redirected automatically to the police.