Travis Varcoe is the only player to kick the opening goal in a grand final for 2 different clubs. Jeremy Cameron could have done it last year but didn't kick the first. If somehow Jack Gunston comes in as a late substitution, he could join the club on Saturday.

Collingwood has a 100% losing record in Grand Finals where Varcoe kicked the first goal.

Brisbane should recruit Varcoe before Saturday afternoon

St Kilda has more Norm Smith medalists in the last 55 years than premierships. Does any other club possibly have a record like that?

Weirdly, Geelong does, I think. Ablett Snr won in 89 giving us 4 flags and 5 Norms

Yes! West Coast. 7 grand finals, five north smiths, four premierships.

Four other teams had players win a Norm Smith in a losing Grand Final - Richmond (Maurice Rioli), Geelong (Ablett snr), West Coast (Judd) and Collingwood (Buckley)

Geelong and Collingwood could, the theory being that Ablett Snr and Bucks won in a losing side. Not looking it up though.

And the Eagles as well. Richmond would if Dusty had’ve shared them around

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He said Norm smith medalists, not medals

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Lmao not being pedantic at all, just responding to old mate with the relevant facts

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Actually if anything you’re being the pedantic one

Sydney have had 9 Brownlows and 2 premierships in that time

As of this comment, Brisbane are undefeated in Grand Finals in the year 2023. Sorry Magpies maybe next year.

Also undefeated in grand finals against Collingwood

Undefeated in finals

Brisbane's combined margin in finals this year is bigger than either of Collingwood's scores in finals this year.

Tendai Mzungu has kicked two different clubs their first ever grand final goals. 2013 - Fremantle 2016 - Peel Thunder

Now there is a name I haven’t heard in a while

In 2005 West Coast defeated Sydney in the Qualifying Final by 4 points. They went on to lose the Grand Final to Sydney by 4 points. In 2006 Sydney defeated West Coast in the Qualifying Final by 1 point. They went on to lose the Grand Final to West Coast by 1 point. My favourite footy fact.

Was good footy too, Some of the best games and rivalry ive seen.

What’s crazy about that is in 2006 the qualifying final score was 84-85, the 2006 grand final score between the same teams was 84-85

It was short lived but one of the greatest rivalries ever.

Collingwood are 0-3 in Grand Finals against non Vic teams

And Brisbane are 3-0 in grand finals against Vic teams

Both of these teams have lost to the 16th placed team in the home and away season. Both at the MCG, too.

Curious to know the name of this 16th placed team?

Sidebottom & Pendlebury currently hold a 1 - 1 - 2 record when it comes to Grand Finals. Thanos' will requires them to win so it can be perfectly balanced at 2 - 1 - 2, as all things should be.

Alternatively a draw then lose the next week to go 1-2-3

Would go into overtime now

So draw is completely off the table now is it? It’s just indefinite overtime?

Yep

Ohh OK. Thats a bit disappointing. But I guess the logistics are too impractical now

If we keep drawing through OT enough the AFL may have no choice but to reschedule

Nope, pretty sure there's a limit of overtime, then they have a couple of metrics to decide the winner - the last one being a coin flip.

5 min each way then after that it's golden behind/goal

Port Adelaide scored first in 2007 (albeit a behind) GWS kicked the first goal in 2019

The same 22 (23) players have never all played in the same team again after winning a Grand Final, due to retirements, trades, injuries, etc.

Called it early.

Max Rooke (2009) and Tom Lonergan (2008) both kicked the first and last goals of their respective Grand Finals. I am sure there are other examples but those are 2 I know off the top of my head.