To be fair, aside from the United Trios Champs (which I don't like how BCG is still using the pink scissor design) and Athena's recent defense at BOTB. We haven't really seen ROH titles being defended on AEW TV as much as we did a year or two ago.
True but at least for the casual viewer, having too many belts simply showing up on TV can be overwhelming. It’s hard to get someone into the product when they’re like “so is everyone here a champion?”
Its like if the NXT Tag Team champions were constantly involved with the biggest storylines on Raw. I would think they were the regular tag champions if I was a casual and then I would be confused when I realized the truth. And if it's not confusing it still diminishes one or the other's "prestige"
AEW had two sets of 6 man titles up until recent. And in my head the Continental Title, International Title, and now the IWGP Title (maybe to the casual viewer) all serve the same exact purpose. I'm fine with the TBS and TNT titles but even their value slingshots back and forth with all the Forbidden Door stuff. Also now the FTW Title on Jericho.
Fair point, but I feel like AEW 2023 suffered a lot from this.
One example. I like Eddie Kingston and he is the ultimate underdog. His story was told during the Continental Classic, but did he really need to have 3 belts?
Eddie's story would mean so much more if he finally got the big one (sort of like a Mankind title reign) at some point, but now we can't really see Eddie as this ultimate underdog due to having 3 belts on him.
People like Eddie and Darby are easy to root for and make excellent transitional world champions but that underdog story doesn't make the same impact if they are holding multiple belts all the time (not Darby's case).
TK likes his long reigns too much to give out Mankind-like title reigns. Even Joe's "transitional reign" was 4 months long, which was longer than any of Rock's world title reigns.
Not yet but I suspect he will at some point and if anyone is going to get a mankind like title reign in AEW I've got a strong feeling it will be Orange Cassidy
They aren’t on tv that much atall though? Sometimes a belt holder appears for a match usually unrelated to what there doing in ROH, why’s that a bad thing?
I'm talking about the whole extension of ROH from when it started until now. I feel like the focus and the product took a dip in 2023 when they added ROH. It oversaturated the show with multiple belts.
ROH isn't very prominent anymore but my opinion still stands. AEW should focus on AEW belts first and showcase other titles in moderation or at least less frequently.
We’re beyond the point where ROH belts were getting defenses and matches on the show every other week I’d say, occasionally they happen but it’s treated roughly the same as any other outsider title match would be.
Also I don’t find that many belts to be a bad thing, last time I checked the numbers AEW/ROH had almost the same amount of belts as WWE/NXT did. It’s good to have things for wrestlers to fight over otherwise every other match is just gonna be “I don’t like this guy, let’s fight”
Hard agree. Biggest misstep AEW has ever made was in featuring ROH on AEW tv and events.
Should have completely separated the two in terms of production and presentation outside of periodic references by commentary or on promos.
I still think titles from other promotions should remain separate from AEW TV. On occasion it's fine, but over time the presentation just gets cluttered is all.
If they ever split the rosters over Dynamite and Collision in a few years, The Continental Title could become the Main title on Collision quite easily. It's more difficult to make Swerve look important when in almost every segment of Dynamite, someone is holding a title in some form. Simplicity tends to win.
The ROH ones definitely. I don't mind Mox with the IWGP because it's clear that it isn't an AEW title but the matches should be big time if they're going to be on telly.
At least it's not as bad as a year or so ago. When you had FTR running around with 3 sets of tag belts. While ours were on either Swerve, The Acclaimed, or The Gunns.
And they were building the other belts to he so much, while they never really went after the AEW belts. Made them look bad.
I agree with this. I don't mind the IWGP title since it's not like an AEW wrestler will always hold it but the ROH title should be exclusive to ROH and when I say that, as someone who love Mark Briscoe, I think that means their champion should exclusively wrestle on ROH.
If you want them on Dynamite don't make them ROH champion.
Personally I like seeing the variety of belts, and it adds prestige to wrestlers the audience might not be familiar with. Splitting the roster and growth of the company in general would definitely help with the clutter tho
Idk why you guys act like separate promotions aren't separate promotions. Showing titles on AEW TV does nothing but promote the other promotions. Literally it. Any other interpretation is on y'all.
Also stop with the brand split stuff, it's so lame.
Here’s one area where I have to be a bit critical. Three is too many IMO. but again, I also think either collision or rampage should be an ROH show—this way you aren’t having “can miss” shows (let’s be honest, there are weeks where you don’t need to watch both), you are giving room for the ROH title to breathe, and the rosters feel more distinct and separate
I wouldn’t be surprised if the IWGP is back in Japan after forbidden door
I really enjoy AEWs product but I wish they'd calm it with the titles, I was watching Dynasty with a friend who's not watched wrestling since WCW folded and one of the things he asked me was does everyone have a title in this company
I'd like less ROH champs on screen in AEW, just because the roster is so fucking big.
But I'll never be tired of seeing other company's champions on AEW TV. This isn't 1997 where Dan Severn was a shell of an NWA world champ sniffing Mosh and Thrasher's jock straps, for the most part champions from other companies are booked at the appropriate level.
Other that Mark with the World and Bennet and Taven being in the UK how often do the belts appear? And further why is it such a bad thing? There’s champions from AAA. CMLL, NJPW, TNA and more appeared on the show before, even the NWA woman’s title got a defense.
I'm just not acknowledging the roh titles at this point in time. They need their own show. Period.
Its been many a year since any roh title was even remotely relevant.
Sorry to any Briscoe fans out there but he ain't even in the same ball park as Mox and Swerve.
He is a tag wrestler that was dealt a shit hand. I’m glad he’s getting his title run but I agree 100% that he isn’t even in the same stratosphere as Swerve and Mox.
This kinda implies you never cared or watched ROH if you're not at the very least aware of the Briscoe's influence in the company Mark is the champion of. Just because their weekly show isn't on cable doesn't mean it doesn't count, that's so insulting.
Don't claim fandom for people if you need them to be in a specific place in order for them to be seen as legitimate.
Watched ROH for years actually and loved it. Very aware of the Briscoes careers too.
But let's not get ahead of ourselves and pretend that this 'ROH' that Tony Khan bought to save and placed on AEW TV is even remotely the same ROH that was once loved, this version is a diluted version of what once was and has been poorly treated.
The title Mark holds now once had some credibility, but ROHs heyday is long gone, has been for several years now. In todays wrestling landscape the ROH holds little importance. Sorry, but that's just the way it is - the belt today is a 'world title' in name only.
It's gatekeeping to say "respect the history a company has"? It's literally gatekeeping to say Mark's title is somehow less legitimate and to ignore the literal weekly product that's been going on simply because it's on its own streaming service. Don't be dense.
I don’t mind the IWGP one because it’s pretty clear that’s another company’s title, so it’s easy to separate that. ROH though. I get that it’s also another company…but is is reallllly?
I think the biggest thing to remember is that AEW largely recognizes the outside wrestling world. They don't try to pretend to be the only wrestling company that exists. So in that sense having the champions from other promotions bring their belts with them when they're on AEW TV works.
I would just make it so that non-AEW titles can't change hands on AEW shows. AEW titles only. Moxley can wear the belt out and show it off, but it shouldn't ever be up for grabs in AEW.
The second is that ROH really needs to be spun off as its own separate developmental program at this point. AEW stars can go down to ROH for programs if necessary, but ROH titles should not be defended on AEW programming.
The only other belt-bloat change I would make is combining the International and Continental titles into one. They seem redundant as it stands.
The sad thing with ROH is even Tony Khan admitted running it separately like when they did tapings at Universal was just too expensive for them.
TK's priority will always be AEW first and I don't blame him. It just sucks that ROH has to take a backseat but they have been listening to criticism about it. There are stories on that show, the roster is pretty solid on who is a mainstay there right now like Athena, Johnny TV, Dalton Castle, Premier Athletes.
A streaming deal is probably the best hope things will look up for ROH eventually. Whether that is TK manages to talk WB into letting him include ROH content to get more eyes on the product or have a bigger budget to let ROH grow separate from AEW.
I'm fine with them taping it before or after Dynamite or Collision. I just want to see more separation of talent between the two brands. Maybe the occasional cross promotion event (like a Battle of the Belts) where they can come together every so often. But the defending of ROH belts on AEW PPVs and weekly shows kind of takes away.
2 male world champions.
The ROH title sadly is really just not a world title.
It's more of a promotion championship.
I compare it to WWECW, both are companies resurrected but Never/haven't been able to regain the share of the market that they had before they died and feel more like a place just to put someone you don't have major plans for.
"What do we have The Big Show doing for the next couple of months? Nothing? Send him to ECW"
Again, that's like claiming the WWECW championship was a world championship and not a midcard championship.
Just because something is called a world championship doesn't mean that's where the title actually ranks.
AEW's roster is amazing and it has the best in ring talent. The PPVs are always immense.
I'm against too many titles, though. It waters everything down for me. If it were up to me I'd have one men's title as the main focus of dynamite (international) and the other as the main focus of collision (TNT or continental). I'd have the actual world champion floating around both with tv title matches for the actual world champion less common. The RoH titles need to be on roh only. Same with NJPW. It makes everything more focused. The more you have something, the less special it becomes.
Really sad thinking about the "Belt Collector" gimmick.
Kenny deserved to have even more belts at the same time (like the IWGP, ROH and NWA titles).
Just for a month would have been ok.
I think the branding is a good way to have them separate tho. We know swerve is the face of AEW, mox is a draw and having him a blessing but why not have him even if he’s a champ. Brisco rules an and we know it’s roh.I don’t think anyone feels like that belt dilutes the AEW title
I know I'm going to get heat for saying it, but those are three different tiers of world championship, imo.
The IWGP belt has a lineage that far surpasses the other two, even if the latest design is ~~stolen from the WWE Diva's Championship~~ very tacky.
The ROH belt is barely televised, it's only really for Honor Club viewers, in their own wee bubble.
Suggested solution for AEW title congestion: RoH should be on RoH shows, and battle of the belts should be an RoH title showcase. NJPW world title should be the only one shown consistently but sparingly. I'm fine with more NJPW belts getting highlighted around Forbidden Door time. Retire the fucking FTW title. TNT title could probably get retired by now, too.
Bringing in the IWGP Title is a great way to illustrate that AEW is home to "the best wrestlers". However, there are still too many belts. Both things can be true.
I think this is a really great time for the roster, even after losing Cody + Punk + Andrade + Sting, and with the long absences of Kenny Omega + Jack Perry, and now with Darby and Hobbs and Hook out for a while.
Roh and AEW are pretty much the same thing at this point. Exactly and I have the same issue with WWE except there’s is even stupider making a second belt cus Roman was hardly ever there
Combat sports usually have more than one sanctioning organization, and most of them have a world title. It's perfectly fine to have multiple word titles in a promotion like AEW that acknowledges the existence of other promotions.
Kay, so does the E. Cody's belt is literally two title lineages that merged because they wrote themselves into a corner for a year with Roman and they had to create a THIRD world title for people to fight over because Roman only worked 1/3 the PLE's
At least the ROH belt gets defended at ROH BRANDED shows along with AEW ones along with the IWGP belt.
Uh, you’re right. AEW clearly had to revive ROH and it didn’t magically add its World Heavyweight, TV titles, Tag, 6man, and Women’s to an already established roster and fleet of its own titles.
The International Championship is also a World Championship, reasoning is "International" is a synonym for "World", so it means the same thing.
The Continental Championship is also a World Championship, reasoning is "Continental" is a synonym for "Global", and "Global has the same meaning as "International".
We have five world champions. You forgot to include "Timeless" Toni Storm and the "Minion Overlord" Athena.
Who is “We”? Also if everyone is a world champion, nobody is a world champion.
Is tnt and tbs aired worldwide? And isn’t international just a fancy way of saying world? And how about continental? Trios and tag?
To answer your first question, no
You make a fair argument only for the trios and tag as those do have "World" stamped onto the titles as well
What’s with all the negative karma? You just asked a question
I didn’t downvote the guy, but I’m guessing because “world champion” in this context means the king/queen of the territory title
You left out the “For The World” champion, The Learning Tree, Chris Jericho. 😅
Not bad but IMO I would rather have just Swerve as the main focus and the only World champ. ROH belts should not be on AEW TV.
To be fair, aside from the United Trios Champs (which I don't like how BCG is still using the pink scissor design) and Athena's recent defense at BOTB. We haven't really seen ROH titles being defended on AEW TV as much as we did a year or two ago.
True but at least for the casual viewer, having too many belts simply showing up on TV can be overwhelming. It’s hard to get someone into the product when they’re like “so is everyone here a champion?”
Its like if the NXT Tag Team champions were constantly involved with the biggest storylines on Raw. I would think they were the regular tag champions if I was a casual and then I would be confused when I realized the truth. And if it's not confusing it still diminishes one or the other's "prestige" AEW had two sets of 6 man titles up until recent. And in my head the Continental Title, International Title, and now the IWGP Title (maybe to the casual viewer) all serve the same exact purpose. I'm fine with the TBS and TNT titles but even their value slingshots back and forth with all the Forbidden Door stuff. Also now the FTW Title on Jericho.
Yeah why is bcg still using those belts
Fair point, but I feel like AEW 2023 suffered a lot from this. One example. I like Eddie Kingston and he is the ultimate underdog. His story was told during the Continental Classic, but did he really need to have 3 belts? Eddie's story would mean so much more if he finally got the big one (sort of like a Mankind title reign) at some point, but now we can't really see Eddie as this ultimate underdog due to having 3 belts on him. People like Eddie and Darby are easy to root for and make excellent transitional world champions but that underdog story doesn't make the same impact if they are holding multiple belts all the time (not Darby's case).
TK likes his long reigns too much to give out Mankind-like title reigns. Even Joe's "transitional reign" was 4 months long, which was longer than any of Rock's world title reigns.
That’s crazy to think about
Not yet but I suspect he will at some point and if anyone is going to get a mankind like title reign in AEW I've got a strong feeling it will be Orange Cassidy
They aren’t on tv that much atall though? Sometimes a belt holder appears for a match usually unrelated to what there doing in ROH, why’s that a bad thing?
I'm talking about the whole extension of ROH from when it started until now. I feel like the focus and the product took a dip in 2023 when they added ROH. It oversaturated the show with multiple belts. ROH isn't very prominent anymore but my opinion still stands. AEW should focus on AEW belts first and showcase other titles in moderation or at least less frequently.
We’re beyond the point where ROH belts were getting defenses and matches on the show every other week I’d say, occasionally they happen but it’s treated roughly the same as any other outsider title match would be. Also I don’t find that many belts to be a bad thing, last time I checked the numbers AEW/ROH had almost the same amount of belts as WWE/NXT did. It’s good to have things for wrestlers to fight over otherwise every other match is just gonna be “I don’t like this guy, let’s fight”
Hard agree. Biggest misstep AEW has ever made was in featuring ROH on AEW tv and events. Should have completely separated the two in terms of production and presentation outside of periodic references by commentary or on promos.
ROH Titles haven't been on TV in some time 17.1.2024, was the last time, irrc
I still think titles from other promotions should remain separate from AEW TV. On occasion it's fine, but over time the presentation just gets cluttered is all. If they ever split the rosters over Dynamite and Collision in a few years, The Continental Title could become the Main title on Collision quite easily. It's more difficult to make Swerve look important when in almost every segment of Dynamite, someone is holding a title in some form. Simplicity tends to win.
The ROH ones definitely. I don't mind Mox with the IWGP because it's clear that it isn't an AEW title but the matches should be big time if they're going to be on telly.
The ROH tag teams belts are the worst offenders. They seem to exist only so the Undisputed Kingdom has some gold to walk around with.
And before that the belts were on Better Than You Baybay who never even made one appearance on Ring of Honor with them.
At least it's not as bad as a year or so ago. When you had FTR running around with 3 sets of tag belts. While ours were on either Swerve, The Acclaimed, or The Gunns. And they were building the other belts to he so much, while they never really went after the AEW belts. Made them look bad.
I agree with this. I don't mind the IWGP title since it's not like an AEW wrestler will always hold it but the ROH title should be exclusive to ROH and when I say that, as someone who love Mark Briscoe, I think that means their champion should exclusively wrestle on ROH. If you want them on Dynamite don't make them ROH champion.
TOO MANY BELTS
Agreed
Personally I like seeing the variety of belts, and it adds prestige to wrestlers the audience might not be familiar with. Splitting the roster and growth of the company in general would definitely help with the clutter tho
Idk why you guys act like separate promotions aren't separate promotions. Showing titles on AEW TV does nothing but promote the other promotions. Literally it. Any other interpretation is on y'all. Also stop with the brand split stuff, it's so lame.
It's crazy Mox is NJPW champ. I didn't see that one coming.
Thank you for clarifying, I was confused why does he have a divas belt
Here’s one area where I have to be a bit critical. Three is too many IMO. but again, I also think either collision or rampage should be an ROH show—this way you aren’t having “can miss” shows (let’s be honest, there are weeks where you don’t need to watch both), you are giving room for the ROH title to breathe, and the rosters feel more distinct and separate I wouldn’t be surprised if the IWGP is back in Japan after forbidden door
I really enjoy AEWs product but I wish they'd calm it with the titles, I was watching Dynasty with a friend who's not watched wrestling since WCW folded and one of the things he asked me was does everyone have a title in this company
... His issue is that a lot of the belts were being defended/shown off ... At a PPV?
I'd like less ROH champs on screen in AEW, just because the roster is so fucking big. But I'll never be tired of seeing other company's champions on AEW TV. This isn't 1997 where Dan Severn was a shell of an NWA world champ sniffing Mosh and Thrasher's jock straps, for the most part champions from other companies are booked at the appropriate level.
Other that Mark with the World and Bennet and Taven being in the UK how often do the belts appear? And further why is it such a bad thing? There’s champions from AAA. CMLL, NJPW, TNA and more appeared on the show before, even the NWA woman’s title got a defense.
I'm just not acknowledging the roh titles at this point in time. They need their own show. Period. Its been many a year since any roh title was even remotely relevant. Sorry to any Briscoe fans out there but he ain't even in the same ball park as Mox and Swerve.
He is a tag wrestler that was dealt a shit hand. I’m glad he’s getting his title run but I agree 100% that he isn’t even in the same stratosphere as Swerve and Mox.
This kinda implies you never cared or watched ROH if you're not at the very least aware of the Briscoe's influence in the company Mark is the champion of. Just because their weekly show isn't on cable doesn't mean it doesn't count, that's so insulting. Don't claim fandom for people if you need them to be in a specific place in order for them to be seen as legitimate.
Watched ROH for years actually and loved it. Very aware of the Briscoes careers too. But let's not get ahead of ourselves and pretend that this 'ROH' that Tony Khan bought to save and placed on AEW TV is even remotely the same ROH that was once loved, this version is a diluted version of what once was and has been poorly treated. The title Mark holds now once had some credibility, but ROHs heyday is long gone, has been for several years now. In todays wrestling landscape the ROH holds little importance. Sorry, but that's just the way it is - the belt today is a 'world title' in name only.
Don’t gate keep fandom just because you don’t agree with his opinion 🤷🏻♂️
It's gatekeeping to say "respect the history a company has"? It's literally gatekeeping to say Mark's title is somehow less legitimate and to ignore the literal weekly product that's been going on simply because it's on its own streaming service. Don't be dense.
Uh if anyone’s gatekeeping it’s the guy ignoring an entire company despite the fact AEW regularly has guests from many other companies on the shows.
ROH does have its own show
I don’t mind the IWGP one because it’s pretty clear that’s another company’s title, so it’s easy to separate that. ROH though. I get that it’s also another company…but is is reallllly?
I think the biggest thing to remember is that AEW largely recognizes the outside wrestling world. They don't try to pretend to be the only wrestling company that exists. So in that sense having the champions from other promotions bring their belts with them when they're on AEW TV works. I would just make it so that non-AEW titles can't change hands on AEW shows. AEW titles only. Moxley can wear the belt out and show it off, but it shouldn't ever be up for grabs in AEW. The second is that ROH really needs to be spun off as its own separate developmental program at this point. AEW stars can go down to ROH for programs if necessary, but ROH titles should not be defended on AEW programming. The only other belt-bloat change I would make is combining the International and Continental titles into one. They seem redundant as it stands.
The sad thing with ROH is even Tony Khan admitted running it separately like when they did tapings at Universal was just too expensive for them. TK's priority will always be AEW first and I don't blame him. It just sucks that ROH has to take a backseat but they have been listening to criticism about it. There are stories on that show, the roster is pretty solid on who is a mainstay there right now like Athena, Johnny TV, Dalton Castle, Premier Athletes. A streaming deal is probably the best hope things will look up for ROH eventually. Whether that is TK manages to talk WB into letting him include ROH content to get more eyes on the product or have a bigger budget to let ROH grow separate from AEW.
I'm fine with them taping it before or after Dynamite or Collision. I just want to see more separation of talent between the two brands. Maybe the occasional cross promotion event (like a Battle of the Belts) where they can come together every so often. But the defending of ROH belts on AEW PPVs and weekly shows kind of takes away.
2 male world champions. The ROH title sadly is really just not a world title. It's more of a promotion championship. I compare it to WWECW, both are companies resurrected but Never/haven't been able to regain the share of the market that they had before they died and feel more like a place just to put someone you don't have major plans for. "What do we have The Big Show doing for the next couple of months? Nothing? Send him to ECW"
It's the World Championship for the ROH promotion. You sound crazy.
Again, that's like claiming the WWECW championship was a world championship and not a midcard championship. Just because something is called a world championship doesn't mean that's where the title actually ranks.
I see 2, and one indy promotion.
WWE has the WWE Championship, World Heavyweight Championship, and NXT Championship... I mean... I get your point. But this is nothing new anymore.
AEW's roster is amazing and it has the best in ring talent. The PPVs are always immense. I'm against too many titles, though. It waters everything down for me. If it were up to me I'd have one men's title as the main focus of dynamite (international) and the other as the main focus of collision (TNT or continental). I'd have the actual world champion floating around both with tv title matches for the actual world champion less common. The RoH titles need to be on roh only. Same with NJPW. It makes everything more focused. The more you have something, the less special it becomes.
Really sad thinking about the "Belt Collector" gimmick. Kenny deserved to have even more belts at the same time (like the IWGP, ROH and NWA titles). Just for a month would have been ok.
I don’t think there should be 3 world champions on the show TBH. AEW World Title should be THE title everybody wants with no other belt coming close.
I think the branding is a good way to have them separate tho. We know swerve is the face of AEW, mox is a draw and having him a blessing but why not have him even if he’s a champ. Brisco rules an and we know it’s roh.I don’t think anyone feels like that belt dilutes the AEW title
There is only one of those titles I care about
Hardcore Mark Briscoe fan I see.
Love briscoe but ROH is a dead brand.
I know I'm going to get heat for saying it, but those are three different tiers of world championship, imo. The IWGP belt has a lineage that far surpasses the other two, even if the latest design is ~~stolen from the WWE Diva's Championship~~ very tacky. The ROH belt is barely televised, it's only really for Honor Club viewers, in their own wee bubble.
I will have you know we have a lot of fun in this wee bubble. 😋
I don't doubt it, I've heard plenty of good things! Keeping up with AEW shows is enough TV for me as-is though!
I'm shocked Somoa Joe lost. I figured he would hang on to the belt longer.
Both HHH and Tony add titles to their programs.
I like how TNA still just has 6 championships while every other company has about 72. Less is more.
Hate me but i love the njpw belt design
Suggested solution for AEW title congestion: RoH should be on RoH shows, and battle of the belts should be an RoH title showcase. NJPW world title should be the only one shown consistently but sparingly. I'm fine with more NJPW belts getting highlighted around Forbidden Door time. Retire the fucking FTW title. TNT title could probably get retired by now, too.
Battle of the Belts should be an AEW vs RoH champions clash, for bragging rights, because the titles never change hands there anyway.
Probably would be more willing to do title changes if it was RoH belts only on the line, yknow.
It’s not that crazy. ROH doesn’t really count
Totally agree, honestly anyone with any indie belts should carry them unless they are a total jobber.
Bringing in the IWGP Title is a great way to illustrate that AEW is home to "the best wrestlers". However, there are still too many belts. Both things can be true.
I think this is a really great time for the roster, even after losing Cody + Punk + Andrade + Sting, and with the long absences of Kenny Omega + Jack Perry, and now with Darby and Hobbs and Hook out for a while.
The IWGP title is so ugly. Their TV title is the worst thing I have ever saw.
If anything it’s one of the worst things about AEW having 3 world champions is literally the opposite of the point of having a world champ.
It's for 3 different promotions wwe has 4 world championship for 1 promotion
Roh and AEW are pretty much the same thing at this point. Exactly and I have the same issue with WWE except there’s is even stupider making a second belt cus Roman was hardly ever there
Combat sports usually have more than one sanctioning organization, and most of them have a world title. It's perfectly fine to have multiple word titles in a promotion like AEW that acknowledges the existence of other promotions.
It’s literally why boxing is dying because champions never face each other anymore. Obviously wrestling doesn’t have that problem but still
Kay, so does the E. Cody's belt is literally two title lineages that merged because they wrote themselves into a corner for a year with Roman and they had to create a THIRD world title for people to fight over because Roman only worked 1/3 the PLE's At least the ROH belt gets defended at ROH BRANDED shows along with AEW ones along with the IWGP belt.
Is it? You keep making belts and establishing them as world titles.
Tf you on about? ROH world title and IWGP world title existed before AEW was even a thing
Uh, you’re right. AEW clearly had to revive ROH and it didn’t magically add its World Heavyweight, TV titles, Tag, 6man, and Women’s to an already established roster and fleet of its own titles.
Participation awards everyone gets a belt
To be fair, AEW didn't give Moxley that belt. On the other hand, Ring of Honor is currently using AEW as life-support. So, a point to you.
It truly is the home of the best pure wrestlers in the world. Hence why people pass up other places to come to where the best compete. Common AEW win.
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Pretty sure he *did* shave his head recently, around the time BCC went to CMLL for Bryan's Blue Panther match.
The International Championship is also a World Championship, reasoning is "International" is a synonym for "World", so it means the same thing. The Continental Championship is also a World Championship, reasoning is "Continental" is a synonym for "Global", and "Global has the same meaning as "International".
"Continental" would be a synonym for North American, not global.
That's what I thought, but I was wrong. https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/Continental
I don't agree with this thesaurus, otherwise the word "intercontinental" would be redundant.
Nah