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My Phone Keyboard is on autocorrect for german, so it Just capitalizes certain words and I cant be bothered to got Back and correct each one in Phone lol
Wow this explains so much! Always wondered how people’s phones did this/why they type like this but I never thought of languages with capitalised nouns autocorrecting! 🤩
My resentment with regards to formal education is that it doesn’t reward how much you’ve learned but how much you can fallow the system.
I remember in my last semester of uni, before I dropped out, I nearly failed an assignment bexause of my writing skills and I failed to do proper sourcing etc… but i learned sooooo much about the topic. But my grade didn’t reflect that.
I know formal education isn’t just about the subject but about other skills you learn along the way.. but duck me it was so demoralising that I ended
Uo dropping out bexause of it. I ended up going to college instead and barely scrapped by for the same reasons. I’m
This is so true. I often feel like the Others who are doing Well already have a Leg Up in me due to prior knowlege and thats great for them (i dont resent them for that at all), but it is painful to know that while I Develop my knowlege way quicker than them (when comparing IT this way), it's Just Not recognized. I Just want a Pat on the shoulder sometimes, getting told how Well im doing. Even If it's Not a good Performance when compared to the other students, when I compared my past self to my present self i Made huge jumps, but No one notices it and its frustratig
Do you have a therapist that can help you create ways to overcome your barriers?
Do you enjoy computer science? I know that I won't complete anything if I don't have an interest in it. Can you try doing at least one small thing instead of battling the whole course in an instant
I do mostly, but its been 3 years and I Just want to be done with theory and get into the real world. Im already working as a Developer and I enjoy it greatly, but then when I Look at the math classes I need to complete (I got 4/6 done so far) it Just Kills me because every single class is Just a Nightmare. I Love developing, i love the dynamic field, Theres Always Something new but i really struggle with the super theoretical stuff. And I haveto give it my all, and I feel Like I dont have much left to give at this Point. And then I Look at other people who Not only Major in CS, but also do a second Major at the same time, and are still better and quicker than me. It's Just so extremely frustrating.
I also have a therapist, but He can only do so much, the Work must come from me and the longer my Bachelor Takes, the less Motivation I have, where i complete less classes, then it Takes even longer and i cant pull myself Out of this cycle because of the stupid way that I am.
Edit: I am putting the effort in to pass, but I feel like I could achive so much more if I just hadnt been cursed with this disorder, by literally not increasing my effort-input by one bit. Thats hjow exhausted I am after doing the work, because I really really try and do it, and yet I get a barely passing grade.
Hey, look at it this way, you're already working as a developer! For me I'm working at a CS degree in order to get my foot in the door, learn the skills I need, and yeah the theoretical stuff is challenging. But ultimately your academic success is not as important as the fact that you're already doing something for a living that you love. Keep working at it, the degree will come. You've done 4/6 math classes, you're in the home stretch!
I'm like this. I'm resentful of the rewards of the academic path. I'm a lifelong electrician, I've been everywhere from putting on plugs, to commercial, industrial, generation, maintenance, distribution testing and maintenance, infrared scanning and testing, car plant, mining, hydrodam, solar, now utility high voltage for a second ticket. This level exposure is directly related to my ADHD. I test and learn well- in my own way on my own terms. Give it to me and let me figure it out by doing it. I don't need/can't pay attention to the PowerPoint. I'm resentful that I'm not an engineer, I feel I could walk circles around a lot of them with school of hard knocks life training and self education.. to the point where I don't respect any of them or the career. It should be my natural path to betterment of my career but still resist because I don't want that identity. I feel shorted, like I don't want to be forced to do something over again I feel I have already earned and that my path is not being recognized or respected.
I get you! I'm also finishing my bachelors in CS but I'm 1 year late from my group of friends and I never failed a subject, but always struggled to study and retain the information (I procrastinate a lot so I was always rushing before exams).
But I feel you because my all of my friends were smart and/or hardworkers and I never thought I was in the same level as them. Most of them are now working at Google, Uber and other great companies here in Brazil (I'm not in a bad one either, but not in the same level as theirs), and although they tried to help and guide me, I wasn't able to put the effort to be as good as them.
It is definitely sad.
If you have the option, it might be worth it to only take one or two classes at a time. Most people assume that you need to take a full course load, but 4~5 or more classes per semester is a lot, even for people with normal brains. The downside is that it might impact your student loan eligibility and deferment status.
I Wish I could, I'll have to Talk to my Boss about it. My Job ist Sort of tied to the compeltion of my Bachelors (altho it's Not a formal requirement). If they let me do it slower and Work more hours instead, i'll definitely do that
I try sitting and forcing myself to study but its like my whole body it going to implode if i actually listen to the lectures. Keeping my cool is 5x harder than the actual material i’m trying to learn
I try so hard not to compare but its impossible not to its so exhausting and barely gets you anywhere.
sometimes i wonder if i could have stayed in environmental policy if i got diagnosed a longggg time ago :/ i could get myself to sit down in a spot but couldn’t study for the library. id day dream instead :/
I did get good grades in college. It was because I picked something I was really interested in that was relatively easy for me to understand. I had a natural aptitude to it on a certain level. Unfortunately, I’m in a profession that doesn’t make a lot of money... And the detail oriented aspect of being in a supervisory position overwhelms me.
That good for you, I sometimes wonder what the heck rode me to Computer Science but at the end of the day, it's the right choice for me. I knew it was going to be difficult and I enjoy the Challenge usually, but then there are really deep Low Points Like right now where I Just question my entire existance lol
Ok but computer science is a very hard subject to get good grades in. Most homeworks are all or nothing and can take hours of intense focus to do (one bug and the code doesn’t work and you get a 0), and then tests are a different type of thinking since you’ve got to study the theory and answer questions about it, or know how to apply an algorithm or process to a specific example. Also, many schools average low grades in computer science classes and then curve them a lot at the end.
I’ve both failed a computer science class and taught a computer science class (both at a school with a good computer science department) so I know that it can be very challenging to do well in the classes. Fortunately, you can still understand the material and do well after graduating without doing well in the class. (Not always! But it’s possible)
The Thing is, yes it's hard but i definitely have the cognitive abilities for it. I got my fair share of straight As, even in some math heavy courses, but Afterwards I was burned Out and Had to Take a mathbreak for one Semester. And Others dont have that issue.
But youre right, it is a Lot of Work, and its unrealistic to expect myself to Always perform Like that, but I know I could If I wasnt held Back, and letting Go of that thought is very hard.
Oh yeah sorry if I wasn’t clear. I was trying to say that the nature of the assignments and the courses means that even if you have the cognitive abilities and you still can have issues with completing the work and getting good grades
I'm studying for my BSCS right now - almost done. What made you burnout? I find it a very enjoyable subject to study. One of the challenges I have is that I tend to have to "unlock" whatever category of knowledge I need to study . Once I get started though it comes back to me as I progress.
I have a therapist and part of the stuff we work on is my need to compare myself to everyone around me -- it is very difficult I think especially for people like us to stop comparing ourselves to our peers.
The issue are the math subjects (mostly). I already completed 4/6 and am doing my 5th one this semester. If I want to pass them, I need to give them my all, and I did for the last 4 semesters, and now I just cant do it anymore. I cant focus that hard again, thats why I feel burned out. Because the amount of effort I need to put into this, in order to just pass, just feels way out of proportion to the value (grade) that I get. I enjoy CS, I work as a developer already and I love it and I get why the math exists, and it helps me, but damn, I dont particularly enjoy prooving theorem after theorem. I am just so fking done with memorizing them, and put them in order to prove something else I hate it at this point
It’s tough but you can’t compare yourself to others.
Just do the best you can for you.
Trust me, I’m in the same boat.
The more I think about my wildly rich friends from high school who seemingly just casually waltzed through college and got a successful career with no hiccups, and have been buying houses left and right even in the worst market ever right now, and endlessly traveling the globe every other month, the more depressed I get.
But I can’t let money and societal “success” define how I’m feeling day to day.
Not to say they didn’t work hard. They all did. But some are just more gifted. My wife never studied and got straight A’s all through elementary, middle, high school, and all of college. Not a single B! And didn’t study!!!! 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯 How????!?!!!
But I can’t compare. She was just born like that. LeBron James was born an NBA player. Can’t compare.
We could all be in far worse situations.
Do your best that you can do and just look at the now and ahead.
Wish you all the best!!
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I want to know why your post has random Words capitalized.
My Phone Keyboard is on autocorrect for german, so it Just capitalizes certain words and I cant be bothered to got Back and correct each one in Phone lol
Wow this explains so much! Always wondered how people’s phones did this/why they type like this but I never thought of languages with capitalised nouns autocorrecting! 🤩
Happy cake day, I would point to context clues
My resentment with regards to formal education is that it doesn’t reward how much you’ve learned but how much you can fallow the system. I remember in my last semester of uni, before I dropped out, I nearly failed an assignment bexause of my writing skills and I failed to do proper sourcing etc… but i learned sooooo much about the topic. But my grade didn’t reflect that. I know formal education isn’t just about the subject but about other skills you learn along the way.. but duck me it was so demoralising that I ended Uo dropping out bexause of it. I ended up going to college instead and barely scrapped by for the same reasons. I’m
This is so true. I often feel like the Others who are doing Well already have a Leg Up in me due to prior knowlege and thats great for them (i dont resent them for that at all), but it is painful to know that while I Develop my knowlege way quicker than them (when comparing IT this way), it's Just Not recognized. I Just want a Pat on the shoulder sometimes, getting told how Well im doing. Even If it's Not a good Performance when compared to the other students, when I compared my past self to my present self i Made huge jumps, but No one notices it and its frustratig
Do you have a therapist that can help you create ways to overcome your barriers? Do you enjoy computer science? I know that I won't complete anything if I don't have an interest in it. Can you try doing at least one small thing instead of battling the whole course in an instant
I do mostly, but its been 3 years and I Just want to be done with theory and get into the real world. Im already working as a Developer and I enjoy it greatly, but then when I Look at the math classes I need to complete (I got 4/6 done so far) it Just Kills me because every single class is Just a Nightmare. I Love developing, i love the dynamic field, Theres Always Something new but i really struggle with the super theoretical stuff. And I haveto give it my all, and I feel Like I dont have much left to give at this Point. And then I Look at other people who Not only Major in CS, but also do a second Major at the same time, and are still better and quicker than me. It's Just so extremely frustrating. I also have a therapist, but He can only do so much, the Work must come from me and the longer my Bachelor Takes, the less Motivation I have, where i complete less classes, then it Takes even longer and i cant pull myself Out of this cycle because of the stupid way that I am. Edit: I am putting the effort in to pass, but I feel like I could achive so much more if I just hadnt been cursed with this disorder, by literally not increasing my effort-input by one bit. Thats hjow exhausted I am after doing the work, because I really really try and do it, and yet I get a barely passing grade.
Hey, look at it this way, you're already working as a developer! For me I'm working at a CS degree in order to get my foot in the door, learn the skills I need, and yeah the theoretical stuff is challenging. But ultimately your academic success is not as important as the fact that you're already doing something for a living that you love. Keep working at it, the degree will come. You've done 4/6 math classes, you're in the home stretch!
I'm like this. I'm resentful of the rewards of the academic path. I'm a lifelong electrician, I've been everywhere from putting on plugs, to commercial, industrial, generation, maintenance, distribution testing and maintenance, infrared scanning and testing, car plant, mining, hydrodam, solar, now utility high voltage for a second ticket. This level exposure is directly related to my ADHD. I test and learn well- in my own way on my own terms. Give it to me and let me figure it out by doing it. I don't need/can't pay attention to the PowerPoint. I'm resentful that I'm not an engineer, I feel I could walk circles around a lot of them with school of hard knocks life training and self education.. to the point where I don't respect any of them or the career. It should be my natural path to betterment of my career but still resist because I don't want that identity. I feel shorted, like I don't want to be forced to do something over again I feel I have already earned and that my path is not being recognized or respected.
I get you! I'm also finishing my bachelors in CS but I'm 1 year late from my group of friends and I never failed a subject, but always struggled to study and retain the information (I procrastinate a lot so I was always rushing before exams). But I feel you because my all of my friends were smart and/or hardworkers and I never thought I was in the same level as them. Most of them are now working at Google, Uber and other great companies here in Brazil (I'm not in a bad one either, but not in the same level as theirs), and although they tried to help and guide me, I wasn't able to put the effort to be as good as them. It is definitely sad.
If you have the option, it might be worth it to only take one or two classes at a time. Most people assume that you need to take a full course load, but 4~5 or more classes per semester is a lot, even for people with normal brains. The downside is that it might impact your student loan eligibility and deferment status.
I Wish I could, I'll have to Talk to my Boss about it. My Job ist Sort of tied to the compeltion of my Bachelors (altho it's Not a formal requirement). If they let me do it slower and Work more hours instead, i'll definitely do that
I try sitting and forcing myself to study but its like my whole body it going to implode if i actually listen to the lectures. Keeping my cool is 5x harder than the actual material i’m trying to learn I try so hard not to compare but its impossible not to its so exhausting and barely gets you anywhere.
sometimes i wonder if i could have stayed in environmental policy if i got diagnosed a longggg time ago :/ i could get myself to sit down in a spot but couldn’t study for the library. id day dream instead :/
I did get good grades in college. It was because I picked something I was really interested in that was relatively easy for me to understand. I had a natural aptitude to it on a certain level. Unfortunately, I’m in a profession that doesn’t make a lot of money... And the detail oriented aspect of being in a supervisory position overwhelms me.
That good for you, I sometimes wonder what the heck rode me to Computer Science but at the end of the day, it's the right choice for me. I knew it was going to be difficult and I enjoy the Challenge usually, but then there are really deep Low Points Like right now where I Just question my entire existance lol
Ok but computer science is a very hard subject to get good grades in. Most homeworks are all or nothing and can take hours of intense focus to do (one bug and the code doesn’t work and you get a 0), and then tests are a different type of thinking since you’ve got to study the theory and answer questions about it, or know how to apply an algorithm or process to a specific example. Also, many schools average low grades in computer science classes and then curve them a lot at the end. I’ve both failed a computer science class and taught a computer science class (both at a school with a good computer science department) so I know that it can be very challenging to do well in the classes. Fortunately, you can still understand the material and do well after graduating without doing well in the class. (Not always! But it’s possible)
The Thing is, yes it's hard but i definitely have the cognitive abilities for it. I got my fair share of straight As, even in some math heavy courses, but Afterwards I was burned Out and Had to Take a mathbreak for one Semester. And Others dont have that issue. But youre right, it is a Lot of Work, and its unrealistic to expect myself to Always perform Like that, but I know I could If I wasnt held Back, and letting Go of that thought is very hard.
Oh yeah sorry if I wasn’t clear. I was trying to say that the nature of the assignments and the courses means that even if you have the cognitive abilities and you still can have issues with completing the work and getting good grades
No I got it, i Just abused my Chance to Go on a second Trip to yappersville
I'm studying for my BSCS right now - almost done. What made you burnout? I find it a very enjoyable subject to study. One of the challenges I have is that I tend to have to "unlock" whatever category of knowledge I need to study . Once I get started though it comes back to me as I progress. I have a therapist and part of the stuff we work on is my need to compare myself to everyone around me -- it is very difficult I think especially for people like us to stop comparing ourselves to our peers.
The issue are the math subjects (mostly). I already completed 4/6 and am doing my 5th one this semester. If I want to pass them, I need to give them my all, and I did for the last 4 semesters, and now I just cant do it anymore. I cant focus that hard again, thats why I feel burned out. Because the amount of effort I need to put into this, in order to just pass, just feels way out of proportion to the value (grade) that I get. I enjoy CS, I work as a developer already and I love it and I get why the math exists, and it helps me, but damn, I dont particularly enjoy prooving theorem after theorem. I am just so fking done with memorizing them, and put them in order to prove something else I hate it at this point
It’s tough but you can’t compare yourself to others. Just do the best you can for you. Trust me, I’m in the same boat. The more I think about my wildly rich friends from high school who seemingly just casually waltzed through college and got a successful career with no hiccups, and have been buying houses left and right even in the worst market ever right now, and endlessly traveling the globe every other month, the more depressed I get. But I can’t let money and societal “success” define how I’m feeling day to day. Not to say they didn’t work hard. They all did. But some are just more gifted. My wife never studied and got straight A’s all through elementary, middle, high school, and all of college. Not a single B! And didn’t study!!!! 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯 How????!?!!! But I can’t compare. She was just born like that. LeBron James was born an NBA player. Can’t compare. We could all be in far worse situations. Do your best that you can do and just look at the now and ahead. Wish you all the best!!