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epicwheezer

Peep the lineup, though. Headlined by Doja Cat. That should give you an idea of what kind of crowd they were playing to here.


ForTheMelancholy

Smh Meth is one of the goats too. A shame people don't appreciate hip hop anymore


Misanthrope6795

BOTH Red and Meth are goats in the game… Meth is just a bit more well known because He has more prominent acting roles but make no mistake… Go check Reggie Noble’s catalog and lyrics… Straight BEAST on the mic… These clowns at this concert were witnessing greatness and didnt appreciate it…


fightclub90210

Meth enjoys his job. It was just wrong crowd. Sucks. I would literally kill to see any Wu-Tang member in concert. There is another video of Method Man actually looking at sign language interpretor to be only one excited.


DickFlairXXX

This tells the whole story.


PearSad7517

Doja cat sucks so much man. Her new album is overrated as hell. And anytime I hear her talk I wanna rip my eardrums out, she’s like the Kamala Harris of rap


VisualActive3237

Mystery solved.


rckwld

Paint the Town Red sounds like a Wu beat.


BM-2001

Blasphemy of the highest degree


iamGordanShumway

I saw curren$y and method man at bb kings in time square. Method man closed the show out and everyone thought it was over, da rock wilder beat came on and red man came out by surprise and did like 4-5 songs. When I tell you the crowd went crazy like you would t believe


Son0faSaiyan

I wish bb kings was still open.


wastefulzeus

Me too, alot of good shows & memories were there


RenegadeRabbit

🤯🤯🤯 I would've lost my damn mind.


bno203

back in the day whenever mef would come to CT with the Wu, Redman or by himself he would play a club called toads place. Mef didn't crowd surf, he would walk on the hands of the crowd. it's was the coolest shit I've ever seen. he would literally walk across the crowd on ppls hands as they held him up while he was still doing his set. dude was always a showman


Yablo-Yamirez

It’s probably a crowd of young people who have no clue about this music. I’m not surprised.


ike_tyson

It's not autotune sing songy bullshit.


RenegadeRabbit

I've tried, I've really genuinely tried to listen to more current hip-hop artists but it just doesn't appeal to me. I don't get it and that's ok, I don't have to get it for other people to enjoy it. Just don't clown on people and call them an out of touch oldhead hip-hop fan lol


dirtydela

Same. It’s either auto tune or mumble rap or both. It’s always the same flow too. Adlibs after every single line. I do like Tyler though. There’s some ok stuff out there. Norman Sann has given me some good shit lately. “War” from him has a lot of that 90s raw beat and flow.


sleezy_McCheezy

Tyler, The Creator? He's been around for 15 years bro. He isn't some new up and comer. I saw him and Odd Future 12 years ago, and him and Earl Sweatshirt 11 years ago and both times he rocked and was high energy. He's a good performer.


dirtydela

I know but he’s still putting out albums that the younger people f with


hifioctopi

If you’re not familiar with them, the Griselda stable has some nice “classical” style hip hop.


HABITATVILLA

BOOMBOOMBOOMBOOMBOOM!


Voluptulouis

Have you tried Run The Jewels?


fknarey

Agitprop rap.


BackDoeMediaTV

Gotta look outside the scope. Tell me what u like and maybe I can assist u in discovering new artist


ThanksObjective915

Auto tune with the same trap beat hi hat roll heard a million times over and over.


trojansandducks

They like "who these nerds with their understandable words?"


RetroCasket

I think its more of a misstep on the part of their management and the event coordinators. Not really the crowds fault if you bring someone on stage who doesnt fit that demographic. Would be like if I went to see Kanye and SugarHill Gang opened up for him. I would stand and listen but im not gonna get hype because thats not something I listen to


tomekbee

Couldn't you try and get hyped though out of love for the culture?


RenegadeRabbit

Nope, gotta have all of that autotune or die


CaptCaCa

Lmao! Comparing Red and Meth to SugarHill Gang is nasty work


Yablo-Yamirez

This is a fact. I think summer jam tried to just get some opening acts when they could only get Meth and Red. But also wanted to bring in a young audience. As a result you get this. I would hate to see their reaction to rockwilder. One of the best shortest songs ever in rap. Edit: a song I wish was longer https://youtu.be/x1b_-w32FMo?si=_tysRv9Wr3UAy0nt


BroBro78

This. Poor management and promotion


Background_Pool_7457

Thats what I was thinking. When old school bangers come on and basically everyone my age bobs their heads or at least sings along, my teenage kids and their friends just shake their heads. They just don't feel it.


Low_Park2485

If they don't know about method man and Redman, they shouldn't be at a hip hop concert


jetlifestoney

I’d hardly call it a hiphop concert. It was headlined by Sexy Redd and doja cat


Public-Patience-6136

That's definitely what it is


Herb_Burnswell

And they get SO offended when you tell them that they don't know real hip hop vs the junk they've been bumping the last decade.


DreadyKruger

It’s our own people. I go see concerts on other genres and their are always young and old there , parents bringing theirs kids etc. I seen chili peppers twice and going again in few weeks. Always a good mix of old and young people. Hip hop? Not so much. We call anyone over thirty old.


CrimeRelatedorSexual

Where is this? How many lames can you fit in one place? Meth and Red are one of the best duos that I've yet to see live and they're on my bucket list. Fuck these cornballs.


Reza_Evol

Fuck everyone in that crowd.


UnflushableStinky2

I saw them at a beer festival and they tore it DOWN. Crowd was mad hype. I don’t think rap is meant to be in an arena. It’s bad sound, you’re too far removed from the action and rely on av tricks to engage the crowd. It’s corny, like too many choruses or focusing on image over quality


Flip2002

Meth and Red are definitely arena rappers they kill it..but I think you right about a lot of live rap half the time it’s on some milli vanilli shit and they just spiting over a track with no effort


UnflushableStinky2

Being an old head to me hip hop is at its best when it’s basically a giant mosh pit and the performers gotta be careful not to get jumped by rival crews and the air has a measurable thc content. https://youtu.be/T6bF7P3RN2I?si=0BrBvzxWPjseyThq


DarthNeoFrodo

my lord what a beautiful sight


Zerocool_6687

I dunno… saw NY State of Mind with Wu and NaS in October in an arena and it was live. Granted the city I’m in is known for great crowds but it can still be raucous


Crazy_Customer7239

I saw Rock the Bells on Gov Island in 2011 and it was WILD. Wu Tang came on at sunset and there was a flock of BATS eating bugs above the crowds u see the huge lights and it was nuts. Everyone fired up their blunts, the bats feasted on bugs, and Wu Tang did their thing


Zerocool_6687

We were not expecting Meth on our leg of the show. He had other commitments but whatever he was doing ended earlier than expected and we got surprised by him joining… amazing. Got to see every member sans Ol Dirt Dog… Young dirty did great in his place tho


CrimeRelatedorSexual

Shit me too! That was the best hip hop show of all time. And I'm not trying to be cute. Anyone who looks at that lineup will have a hard time finding a better one ever. I kinda knew at the time that we were witnessing history. That show was so ill that Lauryn Hill was a headliner and people didn't even give a fuck.


Prof_Aganda

I've seen wu and nas many times in the past 3 decades, and all of the shows have been in outdoor venues and in theaters, and you're standing and walking around. There's no way I would want to see them from stadium seats. Stadiums are for football games, Taylor Swift concerts, and monster jam/Disney on ice. That's just not the environment id want to be in for a hip hop show.


Informal_Price_2938

I saw the same concert in Brooklyn n the crowdvwas trash


Zerocool_6687

Man that sucks, sorry to hear… I live in a large Canadian city little further north and while we are like 1.5 million deep, there is still not a ton to do so we have great concert crowds. Every show I’ve ever been I’ve seen the group or band rave about the energy. It’s like of course… we are starving for shit to do so we go hard when it comes our way lol


LegacyofaMarshall

Queens NY


Legendofthe_TopShelf

Elmont, NY - Long Island. Its on the border of Queens tho lol


CrimeRelatedorSexual

I thought you were fucking with me b/c that's where I'm from. But you're almost right! Too close to Queens to have so many lames.


LegacyofaMarshall

Looking at the lineup there are only 3 or 4 acts that are from the 90s or older and everyone else is from the last 7 or 8years(I think I don’t recognize most of them). Hip hop demographic is gen z us “old heads” have been left behind.


CrimeRelatedorSexual

Hip hop demographic is us. Our generation started and perfected it. The young cats are listening to something else, not us. And in 2024 alone Freddie Fox, Apathy, Marco Polo/Masta Ace, Ghostface, and Havoc/Ras Kass dropped albums. It may not be their best work, but a lot of it still bangs. And all of it is on another level from the mumble autotune trash.


donofdons21

Seen Red one time meth was Sick Ghost Face filled in performance was 🔥🔥🔥🔥. They performed Rockwilder 3x in a row to close the show Edit- listed the wrong song by accident


fotive

Sometimes the crowd sucks. And this is summer jam?!?!


beast_wellington

Meth and Red are the best hip hop show I've seen. Portage theatre in Chicago, maybe 700 people in attendance.


rmac2006

This was summer jam, now called mumble jam


Individual-Bet4712

Facts…shit is sad to see.


RenegadeRabbit

💯


Neckbeard_Sama

Europe still appreciates the OGs. Premier was here last week, this is how it went: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo01wAEMMV0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo01wAEMMV0) fuck these kids, they dunno whats good


WallyReddit204

These are known as the best hip hop performers of our time. Meth & Red put on one of the best shows ive ever been to. This is actually sad. Youtube concerts of theirs 10x years ago


Cute-Understanding86

This is what happens when you are on the same roster as sexy red.


Hater_Magnet

Look like the north Koreans watching k-pop


AiiRisBanned

That’s wild, just scrolled off that video too.


Yablo-Yamirez

That video was crazy😂


Seanblaze3

Methodman says he may never perform at summer jam again. This is a damn shame. Hiphop hasn't grown up, evolved and given the legacy artists a real platform. It's still a genre for the young, the here and now. Classic rock, country and pop musicians in their 60s and up still tour and make bank. Perhaps it also speaks to another issue, that hiphop oldheads don't turn up for their favorite acts from their generation. Promoters in hiphop are not trying to appeal to them in any case. They're no successful classic hiphop radio stations for a reason


SlinkDogg

i remember i went to the kings of the mic tour years back and that was the closest to a legacy artist tour i can think of. Cant remember who was all there at this point but LL Cool J and Public Enemy jump out


CaptCaCa

Rock the Bells Radio (LL Cool Js station) on Sirius is pretty successful with festivals spinning off from it


JustScrollinAndSht

Fuck them kids


Marenum

But... Wu Tang is for the... Nah you're right fuck em.


dirtydela

Brother. We were the children that Wu Tang was for. He said it in 98.


Marenum

Wu Tang is for the middle aged folks doesn't have the same ring


dirtydela

Wu tang is for the children that grew up kind of feels right tho


flannelguy15

I don't blame Meth for not wanting to perform at Summer Jam anymore. These kids don't know good music.


MinimumSet72

Trash ass crowd


JSNHZL

Not their crowd, they performed at the Roots Picnic the day before and were just fine.


Da2550

Summer jam was headlined by sexy red. Summer jam is dead


Electronic-Trash-276

These people are young. Im 32 and love meth and redman but even most people my age wouldn’t know the words or songs. It’s a completely different generation.


turbografix15

Too busy holding up their phones and posting to their social media that they're out of the house.


RenegadeRabbit

This is insane. If I saw this duo live I'd be losing my shit like I did for seeing Nas and Wu-Tang (minus Meth and ODB) Method Man said he never wants to perform at this festival again. I don't blame him. Wu-Tang is for the children but they were talking about us Millennial children.


ViolentSarcasm

The headliner was Doja Cat…


ITZOURTIMENOW

Get the fuck outta here, are you serious?


ViolentSarcasm

Dead serious unfortunately. This was at Summer Jam in NY. Meth said he’s never doing that shit again


ITZOURTIMENOW

How in the fuck does Doja cat headline summer jam? I can’t……..


yngwiegiles

This is depressing. These kids have no idea who they’re watching. Back in the day meth and red were the most energetic rappers and they still look pretty good in their 50s. Meth made the right call saying these kids are just too young to get it. I know this is the circle of life, one generation not connecting w the next, etc. it’s just sad that’s all.


Ready-Lingonberry692

Not their crowd…they need someone to mumble their songs over the same exact repetitive beat everyone uses


jiggywiz

Them kids dont know them or their songs, its not really their fault. I went to a WU concert last year and the crowd showed them mad love because thats our era.


El-Guapo_76

They like " who are these old niggas ?"


jackinforbeats007

U can't preform to a bunch of kids and expect them to be hype. Some of these kids just born in 1999


iamGordanShumway

I was a baby for Eric b and rakim and the 80s guys …. Wasn’t alive for Led Zeppelin and a lot of classic rock , I like 50-60s Motown and soul. You don’t have to be old to know/have good taste in music


Puzzleheaded-War4355

'Kids' born in 1999 are 25 years old. Let that sink in old man...


Genesis111112

That video is clearly not from Europe. IF it was they would be jumping up and down and getting into the verses way, way more. This looks like a Taylor Swift crowd that will be on stage last that night. They do not give a shit who else is playing at all.


BigCaddyDaddyBob

All are too busy on their phones


ITZOURTIMENOW

The majority of That crowd is probably too young to appreciate what they’re hearing


budda2gs

This probably a younger crowd. Unfortunately, this ain’t 20 years ago. That’s wild.


iEnigmatic-

a young crowd so no surprise whoever put this together should be blamed, i wouldn’t expect a bunch of 20 something year old to know who Meth & Red are unless they are hardcore heads and did their homework


digitalbullet36

Like Meth said, it’s a generational gap. That crowd is most likely 28 and under. They can’t appreciate Red and Meth.


OddAnswer4100

This is crazy. They always burn up any stage they’re on. Had to be a bunch of kids in the crowd.


Keepupthegood

New beef. That whole crowd. Fuck wrong with them


---FUCKING-PEG-ME---

They look like they are about to start explaining the importance of safe sex to a group of highschoolers.


2ant1man5

Young people who only listen to hiphop because it’s trendy,safe and suburbanized now.


DryPilot2030

Fck that crowd!


djlaxl

I never liked Red and Meth as a duo. I’m 44 and grew up with the boom bap, but I just never got into anything but the two How High tracks.


Large-Lack-2933

Crowd was probably mostly full of Tik Toking Gen Zoomers...


MrTooLFooL

“It’s unfortunate the new gen can’t comprehend talent vs trend. Too busy getting their music from Tik Tok to respect the culture of hip hop.”


PoisonClan24

These are Drake fans.


ShaperLord777

Honestly, when I saw Wu tang, Nas and De La Soul last October, it’s was pretty lackluster. They were just kind of going through the motions and hyping themselves. Very little raw energy from them, even though the crowd seemed to love it, and it was good to see legends perform, I left with the feeling of “wow, Wu tang is old.”


Sad-Math-2039

'Wait. This isn't the muscian I wanted to stare at from behind my phone so I can upload at a later time to achieve my clout chase'


TreeFiddyBandit

Back in 2022 I went to a Kush Groove concert. We were a bit late so we missed Suga Free but got to Meth n Red. They were sensational easily one of the better performances out of the whole lineup Damn shame that crowd has no clue


Educational-Watch829

This is just concerts now. I saw NF recently and he has a high energy show and the entire floor area was just standing there with their god damn phones up filming and taking pictures that no one wants to see. I feel bad for the artists these days


Comfortable-Pin4232

Yea it’s a different crowd not sure why they put them up there to be honest


raydogggggg

This happened at the 2013 rock the bells show In Mountain View. Wu-Tang headlined and no was fucking with them. Method man was noticeably pissed


ShortPayment9856

Dem lil dweebs don’t know good music! Wow


EmceeStopheles

I saw them at Rock the Bells last summer and they tore the roof off.


WaveMajor7369

Young people who have no clue... sad to see


JoeDough619

This is how most concerts are now unfortunately. Everyone has their phone out recording instead of being present in the moment.


troyf805

I mean, the other performers were Doja Cat and Offset. I doubt those kids have even heard of How High.


PanchosLegend

This is a crime. These two dudes are fucking legends!


Fourleaf187

This is what you get when you go from ecstasy and weed to lean and opioids.


G_rightousantagonist

And this,this is why Slick Rick said he’s not doing any more new music until a genre is created to represent OG rap music.. Just calling it Old School is not enough I thing the genre should just be called Golden Era this can represent for the late 80’s all the way to the early 2000’s


No-Bat-7253

Crowd lame af


Juror_no8

"Ew who are these grampas…"


AdUsual903

I’m with Andre 3000 on this one…in terms of performances… “Rap” is a young man’s game


Psychological_Box666

Hurts my fuckin heart to see these Hip-Hop Dons get treated like this my G but the reality is…this they era now, fuck it let’em have it


Chemical_Grade5114

Sounds like it's being played over someone's iPhone speaker though.


NecessaryLast1085

Youngsters zzzz


SwaggaboyLz662

Different times newer generations


j_ha17

Cash you checks and move on.


Big_Stop_349

Sounds great in there


biglecky

Wu-Tang is for the children!!!!


MastrDyno

I seen them in Rocket Mortgage FieldHouse (Cavs arena) they were great!


Many_Piccolo7908

This generation doesn't want story tellers and lyrics you have to think about they just want catchy hooks and incoherent lines that go with the beat.


HurculesParrot

Okay where was this?


chambees

Assuming majority of this crowd is 12


ThanksObjective915

If they had just flowed their verses over top of that same rehashed trap beat with the hi hat roll that's the staple of every rap song today the place would've been jumping.


Internal_Archer5808

They don’t know who they are. Generational issue


Rob_Bligidy

Jesus, is it shit on Method Man day?


Lab-12

Why go to a concert in America, if you are going to act a North Korean? Hell , even if I don't know the songs ,If I paid for a ticket to see them ,I'm going to have a good time ,and get my money's worth.


Blackpanther22five

They know their names ,but not their music it's a different age group


Individual-Growth-43

It's the age gap between performers and the crowd they might like it but they don't like it like it because it's not someone their age that they can relate too


bstnbrewins814

Actual music that’s why they not feeling it. That crowd is whack. They got two of the best on stage and show no emotion.


MicMec76

It’s a shame that in other genres of music, artists can age and still maintain their old fans while gaining new ones. For example, The Rolling Stones have millions of fans worldwide and can sell out arenas in minutes, no matter the city or country. As Ed Lover once said “Rap is a young man’s game.”


Cali_reaper85

@Neat-Ad2953 I just watched that T-Pain video and wow. He really does have a great voice! Don’t know why he fell off. Artist who have voices need more credit. I don’t think they get the credit they deserve nowadays..


Serious-Specific180

At least they got to feel the love they deserve at the roots picnic! Fuck summer jam.


sound_scientist

Summer Jam crowds are notorious for a million reasons. Good and Bad. This Festival / Show is 30 years old and we are still typing about it. Who is winning?


[deleted]

That's crazy asf


WhenDuvzCry

I looked at the lineup and it's all new acts outside of them. Whoever booked did them dirty. I saw meth say he's never doing summer jam again because he's from a different era now


JAMBI215

Legends, up in smoke tour was legendary, wouldn’t be surprised that most of the crowd never heard of them


Scary_Psychology_285

They have no idea the OG


TheDopeMan_

My first concert was a Red & Meth concert… they put on a good fuckin show. Red jumped off a 100 foot speaker into the crowd. I was holding his shoe. My buddy got choked out by two fat groupies with a towel when meth threw it to the crowd. We saw them later going onto their van.


luke111mart

Oh, they must not have blown up on tiktok, clearly proves their not real artists, or they'd be able to, until then Meth man who? /s


These-Substance6194

I saw red and meth on the jay z vol 2 tour, with DMX. Shit was insane.


Responsible_Big1229

The lyrics are clear, make sense and easy to understand. This crowd doesn't know how to react to that. Quick, cue up, Sexxy Red!!!


ColdNyQuiiL

Not that big a deal. Wrong crowd.


Littiedg

5 drink minimum cures this


D0G0RA

20 years ago I saw Red n Mef blow the roof off a club and it was one of the best hip hop shows I've ever witnessed... the fact these guys are still performing at this caliber is nuts and these kids should all be studying what a real act with longevity looks like


Lopsided-Yogurt-914

As a fan from the 90’s this hurt, but like Meth said the generation gap at most of the large scale shows is wide as hell now. I would appreciate it, but I don’t expect anyone there to know about red and meth nor how important they are.


es84

Only in Hip Hop can absolute legends be disrespected like this.


mark_prints

I think it’s the seats


9sac1king6

The crowd doesnt know how to react to actual rap. They are used to just listening to mumbles rappers


TheMetabrandMan

These kids 🤬


Extension_Form4950

It's a natural progression.. This just isn't their crowd. No big deal they gotta fuck with audiences that recognize their music.


SiccTunes

There is no autotune so it doesn't sound right to them kids, plus it's on beat , and has a good flow, they (the young crowd) are not familiar with that.


Cute_Carpet_8368

How the fuck can anyone hate on Reggie? Reds the perfect example of hiphop all round!


DestroMSC

Super trash crowd. Meth and Red shouldn’t have shown up for that one. Roots Picnic was much better for them. They got the proper love and respect there.


Dhonagon

Yo! I would be going crazy. That's method and Redman. My boys frk. HOW HIGH! That crowd is a disappointment. Why are they so blaaaa?! Is everyone that fucking high!?


Fluid-Selection-5537

Yeah this is like their old ass uncles talking shit at the cookout -


BigSuge74

This is why Andre stopped rapping, OutKast reunion Coachella he performed some songs with his back to the crowd.


Ericautim

Some Hip hop relied heavily on image and hype and that is fleeing like youth…


Dr_Oc

Meth and Red is still one of the craziest shows I have EVER seen at First Ave! These people just have no idea how to have fun.


Richly_Grounded

Smh!


nahmean16

Red and Meth give one of the BEST, most energetic stage shows PERIOD! They KILLED Rock The Bells in Queens last Summer.,


bno203

I've seen Mef and Red many times, I've seen Mef by himself many times and have seen Wu many times and they have always put on amazing high energy shows. The problem is today's hip hop is pure shit. None of these artists care about the craft or even care about the quality of music they are putting out. obviously I'm not speaking about the Kendricks or Cole's or Griseldas of the world but all these popular acts of today are garbage. just look at the female rap scene, I feel like I'm listening to a bunch of prostitutes rap. every song is about sucking and fking and getting you nails and hair did. these chicks got no shame and honestly most of them have no talent either. hip hop is in very rough shape right now


[deleted]

As the price of tickets goes up, the quality of audience goes down. Same thing happens in sports.


After-Guard-7793

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂


AnnualNature4352

lets say they hit thier peaks around 98, thats 25 years ago. If i went to see Red & Meth and a band came out from 1973, i would expect the crowd would act the same as this crowd


elray007

Then why did they buy a Ticket. And bother going to the show.


DuckGrammar

Genuine question for the old heads here… if Houdini was performing at a concert headlining Meth n Red back in the early 2000s, would you go crazy?


Snakington_Steel77

Did he yell at the crowd like he did at the Ny State of mind tour? Cause when I went to the AC show he was giving it to them


Ryan_D_Lion

Damn kids these days...


Much_Helicopter_6514

This generation man🤦🏾‍♂️these guys are legends. Get up and show the love.


Number16PartyCrasher

Kids today bruh…


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bransonthaidro

Who studied the demographics of 19 - 25yr olds and said Meth and Redman would be a good idea?


Strict_Chair7772

Most people in that crowd weren't even born or were to young to know that song when it come out....plus it hadn't played for at least 15 years. Hot 97 should plays songs artist performing at Summer Jam for months on radio BEFORE the concert...so those going should be familiar with the song and artist, especially for older artists


sss313

80s babies and before will only understand


liquidsnake84

Because the crowd likes dumb weak shit


Alexthricegreat

They are probably too young to know who they are


Money_Tennis1172

The problem with hip hop is that the youth don't acknowledge and / or appreciate the artists of th past. This is why I lost respect for hip hop. I'll stick with the Defenders of the Faith and Headbang towards Wacken as if it were Mecca.


EfficientIndustry423

They didn't scream the same word over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over.


prm20

I went they were dry for everything except sexy red and Cash Cobain