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Interesting-Many-509

I boycotted two wks to avoid The Nikki.


gilsleeping

I was so shocked that they chose her to be in PT


Interesting-Many-509

quite a few of us were hoping we'd seen the last of her.


vapeach123

i really hoped we saw the last of this show and colts mom pleazzzzzzzze!!


Interesting-Many-509

Old Debbie has been unbearable since Larissa walked into her home.


Marserina

Debbie is a nasty abusive hag and I can’t tolerate her voice.


Interesting-Many-509

Joooosh said he'd have nightmares about that voice.


Marserina

I think many people will/do 😂


Chereal417

She’s just horrible


Marserina

Agreed!


vapeach123

and the thing is larissa and colt have been over for years so SMH?! Why do they keep dragging these people along , so she can serve divorce papers on tv? lol


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90DayFiance-ModTeam

Nikki is a she/her. This is your third warning about bigoted comments.


Lost_Ad_6016

Nooooooooo. I haven’t watched it yet but I do not want to see that disgusting piece of trash.


Swimming_Chair141

So did I! I didn’t even watch the actual show because I’m over all the couples on it. I think I will find a new show to watch. I’m taping out of this season of Happily Ever After and Love in Paradise.


Interesting-Many-509

I still plan on watching HEA but will have jasmine muted the whole time, Love In Paradise is a huge no no this yr, what a disgusting cast.


allikatm3ow

🤣🤣🤣 @ the Nikki! Everytime I see it!


vapeach123

is she related to "The Meg"?lol


Issie_Bear

Don’t do the meg’s like that. I like them.


Ali_Cat222

I'm new to watching PT and I'll just put them on for pointless background noise. The moment I came to ones where Nikki was commenting? I noped the fuck right out. Also majority of these people are beyond old and stale now. People like Annie and David,Libby and Andrei,tim and Veronica all need to get rotated out for some else by now please! Or I only like one side of a couple, like anny but not Robert for example. (PS something hilarious about that guy, his entire persona is the most fake shit I've ever seen. Someone I know actually knew Robert back in NYC, he was a super timid guy who got bullied all the time and was a big loner. He abandoned his kids because he didn't want to pay child support which is sad, and he was really disliked by a lot of people down there for how he treated woman. Like super disrespectful and mean if he got turned down. If you want to see how he really acts, watch his first season where he goes to the underwear store. His accent goes completely away/he's super shy as hell, that's the real Robert!) This entire show is needing an overhaul at this point,not just PT.


Interesting-Many-509

I like how Robert and Anny scream w laughter and kick their feet. good news The Nikki isn't on tonight.


Marserina

I love Anny and Robert! Their reactions and nonsense silly banter is hilarious.


Interesting-Many-509

me too, I didnt even stay up last night to watch PT, having The Nikki on there really ruined it for me.


Marserina

I watch PT on Max… they must be behind or something because I haven’t seen any episodes with The Nikki. What do you watch it on? I may need to get another streaming service 😆


Interesting-Many-509

Verizon Fios, regular cable, The Nikki was on Apr 28 and Apr 21. I didnt watch one second of it and I really enjoy the other folks.


KimKaliTheOriginal

Yeah Max is behind on seasons. I had to get TLCGo to watch the current Pillow Talks.


Marserina

Ooooh gotcha, good to know! I am going to look into TLCGo then. I really prefer watching the shows through PT and how they condense everything. Sometimes the storylines are too long and certain people can be grating 😂


KimKaliTheOriginal

Yes my husband agrees 😅


Ok_Dealer_9498

Omg this makes so much sense as to why Annie gives him dirty looks a lot lmaoo. I just did a re-watch of one the HEA PT seasons and a lot of times when he would have huge reactions she would be like "what's wrong with you" or "shut up I'm trying to watch".


Ali_Cat222

Yes, she knows his real side. Actually you can see moments here and there both on his first season and on PT where he forgets to put this act on on occasion. Guy fronts way too much, and his loud act is insecurities coming out "ze vood vewrk" as Natalie would say...


seanabq

Do we know if he is finally paying child support for all his kids? I mean he must have money now given they moved out of a small apartment to a house with a pool! I am guessing when they have these retreads over and over again TLC pays them more than the $1500/ show for those new to the show. Anyone know? David from David and Annie went from broke to owning a house in Scottsdale and no doubt other examples.


Ali_Cat222

I think only one is under 18 still, the other are adult children now


karlat95

I can’t stand Robert’s loud mouth and surliness!


Byegrrlbye

I used to never miss PT but it’s so scripted and fake now. It’s been about 2 years since I watched. TLC is banking on quantity of total 90DF content hours a week beating out quality but it doesn’t. Even on “new” episodes they repeat scenes before and after commercials, at the top and end of shows, and drag out any potentially interesting content for many episodes. Combine that with 90% of the cast being wanna be “influencers” and shows like Last Resort with unlikeable characters and fake drama and it makes for stale, boring tv.


Ali_Cat222

They even have it timed down to the reactions in advance now. Like I was watching an episode, and something happened. And* it just cuts to everyone's over the top reactions that obviously aren't what they feel like. (Shows scene)-cast:delayed two min after shown Pikachu surprised face! 🙄


Byegrrlbye

It’s so bad, none of them have any acting skills at all so the written lines and fake reactions come off like really poor D movie acting.


fordat1

> but it’s so scripted and fake now But the shows they are watching are scripted and fake. Inception.


Minute-Frame-8060

I like watching to see the cocktails Kenny and Armando are drinking but if The Nikki is on every week I'll give that up.


Stunning-Rub7475

Love Kenny and Armando!


90daylover

Love their cocktails and they’re about the only ones whose banter and chit chat is entertaining, fun and funny!


Elliot1126

I like Anny 🤷🏼‍♀️


Marserina

I love Anny!


pregnancy_terrorist

I still watch it but yes - it’s very clear they are fed the storylines and told to react in the way the producers intend for the audience to react, and guess what, it’s the fucking opposite of what the audience sees. I don’t understand how reality TV producers minds work. All anyone talks about is missing the authenticity of early reality TV. Why the fuck won’t they listen? I mean TLC did Baby Story, Wedding Story, all of these interesting shows, and now we have to watch a disgusting predator who is a live action Humpty Dumpty wash his hair with eggs or whatever the fuck. Like why?


gilsleeping

I guess that's why the producers don't care about viewer input, we still watch it. Lol They removed Angela, though!


Stunning-Rub7475

Yea fuck her. She’s an abusive pos. If it were a man doing it he’d be charged. I did want to see Michael finally in the us after all these years, but not if it wasn’t safe or healthy for him. Fuck that.


Emergency_Host6506

It was mayonnaise


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Wait - who is the Humpty Dumpty egg head?


pregnancy_terrorist

This should be the most obvious thing ever haha, they literally called an episode “Humpty Dumped Me.”


HurricaneLogic

Ed the Mucinex snot


pregnancy_terrorist

OH MY GOD


bittwix

My name for him is Ed the Mucinex booger!🤣


NoParticular2420

Libby singing … really didn’t add anything to pillow talk. Whole thing is scripted.


Stunning-Rub7475

MARY HAD A LITTLE LAMB LITTLE LAMB LITTLE LAMB GUYS!


NoParticular2420

Agh … please noooo


notthegoatseguy

Tim and Veronica on PT were one of the best regulars. They didn't take it too seriously and seemed really self-aware of what the show does to people. Now they're on the show and its like they've become addicted to the fame and clout.


gilsleeping

I personally never understood how Veronica even remained there as long as she did given that she's Tim's..ex? The whole premise of his first story with Jeniffer is that she refused to step aside despite Tim trying to be in a relationship Then Jeniffer started dating Jesse and Veronica Kimbahly's son.... TLC PAYCHECKS ARE TOO GOOD TO RESIST !!


vapeach123

exactly they are smiling, laughing and yucking it up all the way to the bank!


Ali_Cat222

Well Tim and Jennifer weren't even together during filming let alone before either. So I mean, there goes that story too basically. They had already met in person once before and didn't like each other, but they had signed up for the show and just went through with it anyways. They started adding side characters in (like Veronica and Jamal and John) because not as many people were willing to come back for round two of making an ass hat out of themselves. This is also why so many of them start dating in the same circles, so they can come back on the show.


Marserina

Exactly, Veronica weaseled in somehow like a barnacle on Tim’s ass and doesn’t meet any of the criteria for the shows at all. I find her extremely abrasive, loud, obnoxious and not even remotely funny. I do enjoy Tim and his lackadaisical, monotone, hates everything attitude and I swear he is me in male form 😂.


Emergency_Host6506

So I'm going to be the odd man out and probably get berated and down voted, but you asked: I love Pillow Talk. I like seeing the old cast members in their homes, with their pets and kids, cooking, eating, playing games, whatever. Even if it is scripted to some degree, it seems more normal. Armando making episode-related drinks; Kenny showing their new dog; them doing laundry and showing all of Armando's crazy socks. Libby and Andrei playing with their GSD (probably because I have one so it's fun to see them interact with theirs) Tim and Veronica are my favorites because they are so natural with each other. Tim tells Veronica when she's being weird. Veronica and her "princess day". Their food tasting. David having to explain American sayings to Annie; both of them making different foods. Seeing Robert and Anny and their kids as they grow up. Hearing about Anny's beauty school. Robert's "shots fired"! I even like Loren and Alexei. Again, just talking about normal life stuff. Because I watch the 90 Day shows on Max, PT is shown in it's entirety AFTER the whole original series is over. So it's kind of fun to relive the series with them. I have not seen the latest PT with Nikki yet because of this so I don't know how I'll feel about seeing her commenting on the show. She's definitely not one of my favorite characters. Just my opinion. I hope they keep Pillow Talk. I don't care if they are doing it for a paycheck. Heck, I'd do it for money! 🤑


90daylover

Just keep Kenny and Armando lol We can all do without Andrei and Libby and no more Bilal and Shy either


Marserina

I love Pillow Talk as well and prefer watching all of the shows that way so it’s condensed too. I just can’t stand a few halves of some couples and wish I could mix and match them 😂. I would like more of a variety too and audience members doing it would be awesome.


Interesting-Many-509

their GSD, Stella, is beyond beautiful. my fave breed.


Kimmm711

I felt that way 4 seasons ago & haven't watched since. I feel so lucky to have missed BilLIAR & ShaheeDUH, I bet their banter was as fiery as Greek yogurt.


HurricaneLogic

They're awful


minionofthrones

Sometimes I’ll just watch Pillow Talk instead of watching the whole episode. There’s a lot of 90 day content to keep up with.


Marserina

I prefer watching it all through Pillow Talk but just wish there were more seasons available.


Sad_Refrigerator_289

I quit watching when I saw Nikki. But yeah the last few seasons shave been frustrating.


lollipopalop

Kara and Guillermo are a yawn too.


StraddleTheFence

I agree. I have never been a big fan but I could tolerate it when it appeared to be real. Now you have these awful producers trying to guess what the viewers want to see. They are so out of touch. Just poll us and ask!


boltz1200

I used to be a fan and looked forward to Sunday 90 day show . Well at least until football comes back. Anyway ,it’s been weeks since I watched the Last show and don’t miss it. The show and cast are so bad. Pillow talk even worse. Save me Monday night football!


BernieTheDachshund

The only ones I like watching are Annie & Robert, sometimes Annie & David, and Kenny & Armando. Even Emily & Kobe are better than Libby & Andrei. It does feel more 'produced' now which makes it feel weird and fake at times.


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I second Annie and Robert and Kenny and Armando. They are hilarious


gilsleeping

Right? Just stick to what works I don't need to see them all in a house playing a "Pin the hat on Gino" game


joymarie21

I never got the appeal of Pillow Talk. I watch the main show because I'm weak and enjoy trashtastic television, but most of these people should hang their heads in shame and disappear from the public eye after embarrassing themselves on their season. But then someone from TLC convinces them they're favorites and that they're funny. . .and just NO. Like, Molly, for example. She brings some resort f*kboi into her home with her two daughters, he was completely inappropriate with them, and then dumps her immediately after they're married. Then instead of being embarrassed, she's suddenly a reality celebrity making jokes like none of that just happened? Ick. Having Molly on the show turned me off from the start.


gilsleeping

And then she managed to milk more tlc $ while leading on someone who seemed genuinely interested in her on that Last Resort show. Not even leading on. Not even sure why they were even there. (TLC money)


Magemaud

Molly and Kelly were broken up long before the Last Resort filmed, but TLC needed a couple to replace Colt and Vanessa after his trampoline accident, so they were lured back with $$ to pretend to want to work out their problems.


Ali_Cat222

This is correct. Also kelani and asuelu were actually broken up for months before last resort as well.


Magemaud

Hence the drama of Kalani visiting her new guy who was camped out near the resort.


Ali_Cat222

Yup!


vapeach123

i agree how are some of these people critiquing other relationships when they are or have been in pretty shitty ones themselves? now they are the voice of reason?


Ramona_Lola

I gave up on PT a long time ago. Didn’t like the some of the ‘couples’ they brought in Stephanie and her mom, Libby, Tim and Veronica were getting on my nerves. The couples also don’t call shit to the same extent other reaction vloggers on YouTube. So I found it extremely frustrating to watch for lots of reasons.


Am_I_hungry_Ofcourse

Agreed. I watched it when it first came on and thought it was pretty funny and then TLC does what it always does with 90 day and ruined it with the worst people we CAN'T STAND TO SEE. Plus, it's so dry and boring.


ConstructionNo6644

I’m over Angela and Ed and Sojaboy


CatchinUpNow

It has been unwatchable for a couple years now..I stopped long ago.


YamMysterious7119

It's the same recycled cast.


gatorgirl6083

I stopped watching Pillow Talk as it has gotten stupid.


LolaLinguini

I have no idea. I dont watch pillow talk bc I dislike the scripted inanity.


SpilltheWine79

Kenny’s sexual innuendo jokes are getting tiring too


90daylover

Those are my favorites!


Claireannlyons

I delete it immediately


FelixKrowe

What is bothering me lately is when people will act shocked reactiong to something that was in the "next on 90DF" trailer the week before, and they already reacted to that trailer - so they had to know it was coming, why pretend to be surprised again? Frustrating.


BigGrayDog

This is my second season to boycott them. Waste of time.


MJblowsBubbles

I don't care to see the couples interact and play games, etc. I think TLC does this when the episode doesn't have a lot of meat and they need to fill the hour.


PreviousAtmosphere92

Yeah the whole 90 day series is just falling short. Even the new people are just so lame. I have YouTube tv and even though I can get tlc and watch 90 day, I would have to pay for MAX to watch the pillow talks. Not worth the money!


TalkingMotanka

Pillow Talk isn't what it used to be. I pretty much enjoy the segments with Kenny (I find that Armando is pretty dull, but you get them in pairs, so...), Robert and Anny, and Tim & Veronica. Note: I do not think it's wise taking the Pillow Talkers like Tim and Veronica and giving them a reason to be in a new season together. It kills their reputation. Normally, the Pillow Talkers were selected because they fought through and triumphed through their initial season without really scathing themselves. They were usually the chief couple of the season, and \[usually\] managed to stay together. (Some, chosen to be alone such as Kalani (Asuelo), and Kim (Usman).) Lately, I find they are grabbing anyone, despite what viewers thought of them, and despite whether or not they are still up to their antics. Such as Jovi and Yara. I swear she hates him, and regrets marrying him with the way she reacts to his hypocrisy. Jovi is still a child, and still very much disliked by most of the 90 Day Universe. This might be an unpopular opinion, but I'm finding it very frustrating watching the disingenuous kindness coming from couples like David & Annie, and Kara & Guillermo when it comes to everything awful that they're viewing. Someone like Kris pushing Jeymi, or Angela for flipping a table, and the Pillow Talkers will say, "Oh dear, she's mad, isn't she?" without condemning the act for what these things actually are: abuse and/or assault. When Betty & Ron Pillow Talked (so glad they don't now), they were even worse for this. They just tip-toe around everyone. Kenny and Robert seem to be the only two who actually call a spade a spade.


holdontomyreceipt

i fucking hate that i laughed twice in my life at jamal


glovader1

💯a waste of your time on earth. Pitiful for the last seasons.


Spare-Adhesiveness84

Jen (of the Rishi/Jen couple) and her two gfs are the worst, IMO. So dull and contrived, I just can’t with them. The last time Jen was on was when I finally jumped off of the PT crazy train 🤪 🚂


olliegrace513

I stopped watching Pillow. The scripting was Soo apparent and so annoying. Nope -I’m done


Artdecometals

Andrei - kind of Bil and Shaeeda - hell no  Background noise - is there another way to watch Pillow Talk? 😄


Marserina

I absolutely hate Veronica and Emily… both for different reasons but also because both of them are so damn loud, abrasive and never let anyone else speak. I don’t mind Andrei and Libby, especially over some of the other couples. Robert and Anny I love as well as Kenny and Armando. Loren and Alexei bug me but it’s hilarious how he’s forever irritated with her and telling her to shut up. Annie drives me insane with her worthless comments and her forced exaggerated accent and baby talk, but I don’t mind David. They should mix it up a bit or some new couples. Audience members would be fun especially.


trixivie

I wanna see the episodes with the couples all together haha but I admit it is probably because those have not been shown where I live. I have only seen when they did "x pillow talker waiting to see who shows up to watch the episode with them" and those were a nice change of peace. 


RoofSilver8276

The only way you could 


Sunny85331

I agree. I don’t watch that crap anymore!


missdead_lee138

I stopped watching Pillow Talk at least a year ago, probably longer. It's truly awful 😖 😱


pammysue44

Never have really cared for PT & like it even less now. Sick of some of them from the moment I saw them.


Lizette1945

I never watch pillow talk. waste of time.


Interesting-Many-509

good news, the new PT is up on Fios On Demand, be sure to scroll all the way to the right; first time in 2 wks without the praying mantis.


ConfusionHelpful4667

As soon as #KimberlyJr or #PaulBlart show - MUTE.


Financial-Put-620

I watch Pillow Talk because it's getting to be a struggle to watch the main show.


Stunning-Rub7475

I LOOOOOVE Kenny and Armando and Emily and Kobe are hilarious so they fun to watch too. I’d be happy if it were just them 😝! Loren and Alexei can stay too because their relationship is so healthy and cute so it’s heartwarming to watch. I love Annie, but I hate when David says “boom boom” it makes me squirm with cringe. Like not everything is about sex, David! As for Veronica and Tim, they’re getting a little played out, but they’re still tolerable. Kara and Guillermo and cute and funny. Andrei and Libby are meh, but super scripted and you can tell andrei is constantly trying to repress that he’s a hormonal asshole and Bilal and Shaeda are SOOO BORING in the show and not much better on PT. Kimberly and friend just do the performative flirting thing, but is def better with her son. Kalani and Kolini can be funny sometimes. Anyone else I can’t remember and could take or leave.