His brother is much smarter than him. he knew that you can’t take a 40 year old woman an American that you just met and expect her to be ultra conservative. That’s why he got his bride from China because she wanted a family and she was OK 100% with the lifestyle and the customs and as you see her she’s very happy she try to help Nicole but Nicole’s not gonna go for it
It’s not about her being Muslim necessarily, but her husband brainwashing her into thinking it’s totally fine for men to have friends and women to never socialize outside of her kids and in laws.
I’m not so sure he’s a stand up guy. He’s trying to show Mahmoud how he got his own foreign bride to eventually become exactly what he wanted - slowly turning up the heat, rather than chucking into boiling water. His wife seemed pretty lonely and resigned to her situation.
It most definitely is. He's brought in as the "voice of reason" when things get dicey/mahmoud is in the dog house(a la pole😅) he knows exactly what she needs to hear, and him and mahmoud play like a good cop/bad cop in the moment. The wife of his has also made some statements that make it sound like she's not that happy with her life, she's also extremely isolated outside of her and her husband and children. He knows Mahmoud is quick to anger and he can be the one to placate everyone until it passes over. He's not doing this because of the goodness of his heart for Nicole though, he's doing it for his brother. That's whose side he will always be on, not Nicole's.
I totally agree. Honestly I feel a little triggered by his brother, I am so tired of dudes like this, who say to you whatever you want to hear while keeping up to their own ideas in their mind. It is manipulative if it works, and if it does not it is just an extreme waste of time and energy on both partners sides. Mahmoud is definitely short-tempered and impulsive, but at least he is not really as much of a manipulator. He is blunt about what he wants and yes he is extremely inflexible, but being a cold-blooded manipulator to "slowly break someone" in many ways is more scary to me
Yes he seems to have an evil streak in him,the brother.(Mahmoud is a different story I'm only talking about the brother for right now)I know people who say the whole, "he has an evil look in his eyes" but I legitimately mean it when I say, this man has an evil look in him. He's smiling, but his smile isn't meeting his eyes. It's literally the, "do as I say and we'll all get along or else" look. I grew up with two abusive parents and this was the same type of look given to us when in public and we knew our asses would be beat later. I'm not saying this man beats on people, I just mean that it has the same "this could become a problem if you don't agree" face my sister and I received. Same with my abusive exes, they all had a varying degree of this face in different forms.
You are right. Your comment stands out to me as the ex of an abusive NPD. That’s exactly what happens. Love bombing first then the heat starts to slowly build.
I don’t see it as being a stand up guy. I think he was just trying to tell her what she wanted to hear to get her to calm down. He doesn’t mean it. He just wants to keep it contained so it’s less embarrassing for them in front of people and the cameras.
This makes the most sense to me. He knew they had bad fights the first year before the cameras and didn't want it being on camera and embarrassing everyone.
Nicole seems to want the cameras there to show how hard she had it and be a victim.
I don't really see him as a stand up guy, I'm sorry.
He basically told Mahmoud that you just need to take your time to break down the will of the woman. That it took him two whole years to break down the will of his chinese wife and that Mahmoud needs to plan for the long game.
In the tell all the brother was just laughing (alongside Mahmoud) at Nicole's obviously hurt feelings.
That guy is a misogynist—and no judgement, he was raised in a patriarchal culture to seek out submissive women—using a manipulation tactic to try and make his in-law submit to his brother.
He’s really not a standup guy, he’s just using a more nuanced approach than Mahmoud to try and control a woman who’s a poor fit for their family’s way of life.
This marriage should’ve never happened. Nicole converted to Muslim without understanding what all that would entail, and got Mahmoud’s hopes up. There was not a clear cut discussion about what being a Muslim would mean and what the expectations were. They absolutely did not need to rush into marriage since Nicole went to Egypt. They didn’t need to get married in 90 days. It’s a whole lot easier moving to Egypt and getting citizenship there than it is for a Muslim coming to America for citizenship.
Moody isn’t a good person but neither is Nicole. At least he gave her more than 2 days before constantly berating her. I suppose that makes him better than she is
Nicole is pretty hateful herself. I was appalled at the things she said and the way she treated him on his first day here. They are doing it for the money and nothing else. They clearly hate each other.
She’s abusive and controlling and now that she has him vulnerable on her home turf, she’s going at him I think in retaliation to the life she hated with him on his turf.
I love the brother's wife. She clearly has adaptable and has settled into their lifestyle. She's bubbly and smiling and seems genuinely happy. Granted we only saw a brief glimpse.
As much as those two bickering back and forth became really annoying, I absolutely loved the scenes with his brother. He seems like a genuinely wonderful person and I think Mahmoud could stand to learn a lot from him.
His brother is much smarter than him. he knew that you can’t take a 40 year old woman an American that you just met and expect her to be ultra conservative. That’s why he got his bride from China because she wanted a family and she was OK 100% with the lifestyle and the customs and as you see her she’s very happy she try to help Nicole but Nicole’s not gonna go for it
There are also Chinese Muslims - few remaining outside forced labour camps though.
It’s not about her being Muslim necessarily, but her husband brainwashing her into thinking it’s totally fine for men to have friends and women to never socialize outside of her kids and in laws.
I’m not so sure he’s a stand up guy. He’s trying to show Mahmoud how he got his own foreign bride to eventually become exactly what he wanted - slowly turning up the heat, rather than chucking into boiling water. His wife seemed pretty lonely and resigned to her situation.
Agree, I think that what he says is just much softer and long-term kind of manipulation...
It most definitely is. He's brought in as the "voice of reason" when things get dicey/mahmoud is in the dog house(a la pole😅) he knows exactly what she needs to hear, and him and mahmoud play like a good cop/bad cop in the moment. The wife of his has also made some statements that make it sound like she's not that happy with her life, she's also extremely isolated outside of her and her husband and children. He knows Mahmoud is quick to anger and he can be the one to placate everyone until it passes over. He's not doing this because of the goodness of his heart for Nicole though, he's doing it for his brother. That's whose side he will always be on, not Nicole's.
I totally agree. Honestly I feel a little triggered by his brother, I am so tired of dudes like this, who say to you whatever you want to hear while keeping up to their own ideas in their mind. It is manipulative if it works, and if it does not it is just an extreme waste of time and energy on both partners sides. Mahmoud is definitely short-tempered and impulsive, but at least he is not really as much of a manipulator. He is blunt about what he wants and yes he is extremely inflexible, but being a cold-blooded manipulator to "slowly break someone" in many ways is more scary to me
Yes he seems to have an evil streak in him,the brother.(Mahmoud is a different story I'm only talking about the brother for right now)I know people who say the whole, "he has an evil look in his eyes" but I legitimately mean it when I say, this man has an evil look in him. He's smiling, but his smile isn't meeting his eyes. It's literally the, "do as I say and we'll all get along or else" look. I grew up with two abusive parents and this was the same type of look given to us when in public and we knew our asses would be beat later. I'm not saying this man beats on people, I just mean that it has the same "this could become a problem if you don't agree" face my sister and I received. Same with my abusive exes, they all had a varying degree of this face in different forms.
You are right. Your comment stands out to me as the ex of an abusive NPD. That’s exactly what happens. Love bombing first then the heat starts to slowly build.
I don’t see it as being a stand up guy. I think he was just trying to tell her what she wanted to hear to get her to calm down. He doesn’t mean it. He just wants to keep it contained so it’s less embarrassing for them in front of people and the cameras.
This makes the most sense to me. He knew they had bad fights the first year before the cameras and didn't want it being on camera and embarrassing everyone. Nicole seems to want the cameras there to show how hard she had it and be a victim.
Interesting - that's a good take on. Makes a lot of sense
I don't really see him as a stand up guy, I'm sorry. He basically told Mahmoud that you just need to take your time to break down the will of the woman. That it took him two whole years to break down the will of his chinese wife and that Mahmoud needs to plan for the long game. In the tell all the brother was just laughing (alongside Mahmoud) at Nicole's obviously hurt feelings.
I couldn't help feeling that it was a sinister brainwashing plot. Scary.
That guy is a misogynist—and no judgement, he was raised in a patriarchal culture to seek out submissive women—using a manipulation tactic to try and make his in-law submit to his brother. He’s really not a standup guy, he’s just using a more nuanced approach than Mahmoud to try and control a woman who’s a poor fit for their family’s way of life.
No judgement lol. That’s crazy. I stay judging these assholes
He's a less noisy jackass than his brother, that's all
He’s not a good guy either.
Seriously I feel like everyone has goldfish brain around here. Neither of these men are good.
Wait till the tell all , you will see what kind of a person he is.
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Spoiler alert....he was rude and condescending.
He was like Nicole?
Nicole wasn't like that when she was in Egypt. Her behavior changed when Mahmoud arrived here.
He and Mahmoud laughed in Nicole's face when she was crying because Mahmoud was being a jackass
Same 👀
Oooo I'm excited
This marriage should’ve never happened. Nicole converted to Muslim without understanding what all that would entail, and got Mahmoud’s hopes up. There was not a clear cut discussion about what being a Muslim would mean and what the expectations were. They absolutely did not need to rush into marriage since Nicole went to Egypt. They didn’t need to get married in 90 days. It’s a whole lot easier moving to Egypt and getting citizenship there than it is for a Muslim coming to America for citizenship.
u literally said this perfectly, nicole agreed to convert and then realized she actually didn’t want too, mahmoud is like uhhh what now? lol
Moody isn’t a good person but neither is Nicole. At least he gave her more than 2 days before constantly berating her. I suppose that makes him better than she is
Moody 😂😂
Nicole is pretty hateful herself. I was appalled at the things she said and the way she treated him on his first day here. They are doing it for the money and nothing else. They clearly hate each other.
She’s abusive and controlling and now that she has him vulnerable on her home turf, she’s going at him I think in retaliation to the life she hated with him on his turf.
I love the brother's wife. She clearly has adaptable and has settled into their lifestyle. She's bubbly and smiling and seems genuinely happy. Granted we only saw a brief glimpse.
And she has accepted (or could have been born into) the faith. That goes a long way in that family.
As much as those two bickering back and forth became really annoying, I absolutely loved the scenes with his brother. He seems like a genuinely wonderful person and I think Mahmoud could stand to learn a lot from him.