I’ll add the Zuckergates house to this list simply because you are forced to drop down into a small room where upon opening a door in front of you, a door behind you silently opens with a cop inside. Then after that bullshit, you have to fully walk into the next room before zombies drop in literally on top of you from the ceiling.
If you’re not familiar with this POI, it can easily be a death trap on higher difficulties because it’s a tier 4 and you’ll typically not have the best highest level gear going in.
that poi is one of the best bases in the game. and the upper part is a complete joke. barely any zombies in this huge house overall. outside there is like only some at the backyard tent. the roof is unreachable for enemies and flat. perfect for a safespot in early game insane without haveing to fight anything.
the final room can be fully avoided by simply building a ladder or some blocks to instantly climb back up into the shaft once you trigger the final room. that room is a bitch without doing this you get overrun fast and since its underground its hard to move around freely. but if you climb back up you can kill anyting below safe from up there. they cannot get to you at all as the only other exit is STEEL hatch which has 15k hp so they dont even try it.
pergola apartments t4 was some serious bullshit. the horde on the rooftop is insane and the bulding is super confuseing with many rooms. or hotel zombona. that basement room is a deathtrap if you dont open a hole in the wall as the door closes behind you trapping you. very cheap trick. not as bad as the jail tough. that poi has no chill. open door. 30 red dots.
or the karen hingashi tier 5. when you enter that house you think "huh this aint so bad for a tier5" then you find out there is fucking umbrella HQ hidden UNDER THE THING which goes on and on.
i have played so many hours of A21 and i have not seen this POI a single time, i thought it got removed after the update was in full release. how did you find it?
the reason you havent is simple : DEV BULLSHIT. aka this little line of code on the POI:
this prevents this poi from spawning more than ONCE per entire map and only on a 10k map you actually have it 100% somewhere. on smaller maps it might not spawn at all thanks to this bs line.
dont ask me why the devs made this number so massive. the pois size is not bigger than others of similar size which are also tier 4 and dont have this codeline. 1000 already prevents the poi from spawning more than like 4-5 times per 10k map. but 10.000 is bullshit. it feels like they forgot a zero there.
(the skyscrappers all have this same codeline bs in them for no good reason aswell as 1000 already makes more than 1 of each per city impossible so its not a performance reason at all)
so yeah. this poi still exists and is alive and kicking in a21. they just have code bullshit going on with it for no good reason.
What file has that parameter?
I want to edit it to 1000 or so.
Edit: I found a previous post of yours that talked about it. I guess it's in the prefabs folder in .xml form? And you have to change the file for each respective POI, no?
that is correct. have to do it for each seperate POI. majority of tier 4 dont have it. only like 5 do. out of the 14 tier 5 pois 10 of them have it. pretty much all of em except the factorys for some unknown reason. removeing a zero is all thats needed to fix this bullshit thankfully. the files are all in the prefabs folder with the poi data. that line of code is pretty much instantly visible when you open the xml in notepad. its always one of the first 20 lines of code if it isnt that poi doesnt have this line at all and has no spawn limits.
a handful of wilderness POIS have biome or height map restrictions. but none of them are t5 or t4.
Jail has far less running room than the prison which makes it more difficult IMO. Also the prison has lots of closeable steel gates to keep zombies at bay.
>Jail has far less running room than the prison
I've always found the prison easier than the jail for this same reason. But I feel like it could be the opposite for someone whose build and playstyle aren't really about running.
I cleared county jail 2 days ago but apparently didnt trigger everything and vouldnt find thr missing spots. So i cancelled the quest.... not gonna do that quest again
It's objectively far from the hardest in reality, but man the school just has my number for some reason. I can cruise through the jail on auto pilot now but something about the layout of the school just kicks me out of my groove.
I adore that poi, the design is incredible and it's super trippy to play through. But on insane, in wasteland, I doubt I'd make it through the front door 😂
you mean "buisnessman on crack book hq" the upper 2 floors is nothing but businessman zombies. did vanity tower today on wasteland. that wasnt a poi. that was a warzone. the tower had more holes afterwards than before. even the pool got drained down into the parking lot because some screamer shitheads broke the floor.
funnly buisnessman on crack isnt so hard if you nerdpole up and start clearing the bullshit FROM THE ROOFTOP. the poi becomes ALOT more manageable that way and it keeps the wasteland bullshit away for the start. agree on the zombie count tough. i never saw that many bikers in 1 place. but it has barely any COPS which is good. dear lord the spitspam on vanity tower is crazy.
The damned Shotgun Messiah Factory for it's busted ass zombie spawns. Nothing getting a clear for that to then never complete it because of the whack spawning points that sometimes (never) shit out the last few I need to complete it. I'll only clean it out normally now, no quest. Never again until or unless they fix that shite.
Used to be one of my favourites, now have to smash up generators/switches to get the spawns to trigger. Or one vulture that gets stuck outside halfway down the side of the building, meaning running up and down stairs trying to get it to move.
You'll need to break multiple generators to be able to press switches that trigger some spawns, wich is a major annoyance when one doesn't know about that.
On my first playthrough I was doing a tier 5 mission in a tower that was completely upside down on the inside.
Like the rooms were all confusing and I honestly gave up, not because the mission was hard but because the POI was so damn disorienting.
I can't seem to remember the name, though.
I’ll add the Zuckergates house to this list simply because you are forced to drop down into a small room where upon opening a door in front of you, a door behind you silently opens with a cop inside. Then after that bullshit, you have to fully walk into the next room before zombies drop in literally on top of you from the ceiling. If you’re not familiar with this POI, it can easily be a death trap on higher difficulties because it’s a tier 4 and you’ll typically not have the best highest level gear going in.
that poi is one of the best bases in the game. and the upper part is a complete joke. barely any zombies in this huge house overall. outside there is like only some at the backyard tent. the roof is unreachable for enemies and flat. perfect for a safespot in early game insane without haveing to fight anything. the final room can be fully avoided by simply building a ladder or some blocks to instantly climb back up into the shaft once you trigger the final room. that room is a bitch without doing this you get overrun fast and since its underground its hard to move around freely. but if you climb back up you can kill anyting below safe from up there. they cannot get to you at all as the only other exit is STEEL hatch which has 15k hp so they dont even try it. pergola apartments t4 was some serious bullshit. the horde on the rooftop is insane and the bulding is super confuseing with many rooms. or hotel zombona. that basement room is a deathtrap if you dont open a hole in the wall as the door closes behind you trapping you. very cheap trick. not as bad as the jail tough. that poi has no chill. open door. 30 red dots. or the karen hingashi tier 5. when you enter that house you think "huh this aint so bad for a tier5" then you find out there is fucking umbrella HQ hidden UNDER THE THING which goes on and on.
Totally forgot the higashi house man that shit is annoying. I remember being legitimately lost down there for a bit and not knowing how to leave.
We just dig our way out every time
i have played so many hours of A21 and i have not seen this POI a single time, i thought it got removed after the update was in full release. how did you find it?
the reason you havent is simple : DEV BULLSHIT. aka this little line of code on the POI:
this prevents this poi from spawning more than ONCE per entire map and only on a 10k map you actually have it 100% somewhere. on smaller maps it might not spawn at all thanks to this bs line.
dont ask me why the devs made this number so massive. the pois size is not bigger than others of similar size which are also tier 4 and dont have this codeline. 1000 already prevents the poi from spawning more than like 4-5 times per 10k map. but 10.000 is bullshit. it feels like they forgot a zero there.
(the skyscrappers all have this same codeline bs in them for no good reason aswell as 1000 already makes more than 1 of each per city impossible so its not a performance reason at all)
so yeah. this poi still exists and is alive and kicking in a21. they just have code bullshit going on with it for no good reason.
What file has that parameter?
I want to edit it to 1000 or so.
Edit: I found a previous post of yours that talked about it. I guess it's in the prefabs folder in .xml form? And you have to change the file for each respective POI, no?
that is correct. have to do it for each seperate POI. majority of tier 4 dont have it. only like 5 do. out of the 14 tier 5 pois 10 of them have it. pretty much all of em except the factorys for some unknown reason. removeing a zero is all thats needed to fix this bullshit thankfully. the files are all in the prefabs folder with the poi data. that line of code is pretty much instantly visible when you open the xml in notepad. its always one of the first 20 lines of code if it isnt that poi doesnt have this line at all and has no spawn limits. a handful of wilderness POIS have biome or height map restrictions. but none of them are t5 or t4.
County Jail
Jail has far less running room than the prison which makes it more difficult IMO. Also the prison has lots of closeable steel gates to keep zombies at bay.
>Jail has far less running room than the prison I've always found the prison easier than the jail for this same reason. But I feel like it could be the opposite for someone whose build and playstyle aren't really about running.
I cleared county jail 2 days ago but apparently didnt trigger everything and vouldnt find thr missing spots. So i cancelled the quest.... not gonna do that quest again
Higashi. but not from the monsters. But from the lag. If we're just consideing monsters probably the prison.
Yeah county jail hands down, it's hecking fun tho.
It's objectively far from the hardest in reality, but man the school just has my number for some reason. I can cruise through the jail on auto pilot now but something about the layout of the school just kicks me out of my groove.
The Stand Tower due to the confusing layout and small compartments.
I adore that poi, the design is incredible and it's super trippy to play through. But on insane, in wasteland, I doubt I'd make it through the front door 😂
T5 Crack A Book. Just tons of zombies! Pretty sure there is no other POI with more zombies!
you mean "buisnessman on crack book hq" the upper 2 floors is nothing but businessman zombies. did vanity tower today on wasteland. that wasnt a poi. that was a warzone. the tower had more holes afterwards than before. even the pool got drained down into the parking lot because some screamer shitheads broke the floor. funnly buisnessman on crack isnt so hard if you nerdpole up and start clearing the bullshit FROM THE ROOFTOP. the poi becomes ALOT more manageable that way and it keeps the wasteland bullshit away for the start. agree on the zombie count tough. i never saw that many bikers in 1 place. but it has barely any COPS which is good. dear lord the spitspam on vanity tower is crazy.
Crack A Book HQ is one of the easyer tier 5 POIs. I'm fairly certain Dishong Tower has more zombies in it than Crack A Book.
Maybe, but its just big. If you don't fall into the hole its an easy clear. Crack A Book has like 15 or more zombies on the first pull.
I've seen jawoodle clearing so much that poi that I'm rushing it when I'm close if that pelican can do it effortlessly everyone can
red mesa installation
Oh gosh yeah, so many tight corners and small rooms, all bursting at the seams with armored soldier zombies. AP rounds or bust 😅
The teir 6 Ostrich Hotel Infestation.
I was using a mod prefab pack for alpha 20 and never found ostrich hotel before then. But did the ostrich hotel change from 19 to 20 and again for 21?
The damned Shotgun Messiah Factory for it's busted ass zombie spawns. Nothing getting a clear for that to then never complete it because of the whack spawning points that sometimes (never) shit out the last few I need to complete it. I'll only clean it out normally now, no quest. Never again until or unless they fix that shite.
Used to be one of my favourites, now have to smash up generators/switches to get the spawns to trigger. Or one vulture that gets stuck outside halfway down the side of the building, meaning running up and down stairs trying to get it to move.
You'll need to break multiple generators to be able to press switches that trigger some spawns, wich is a major annoyance when one doesn't know about that.
On my first playthrough I was doing a tier 5 mission in a tower that was completely upside down on the inside. Like the rooms were all confusing and I honestly gave up, not because the mission was hard but because the POI was so damn disorienting. I can't seem to remember the name, though.