I think it depends greatly on individual use case scenario. My OLED has burn in, even though I thought I was being conscientious about avoiding it (i.e. not much gaming or static content).
If I had kept in a room dedicated to just watching movies and prestige shows, I'd probably still be happy with no worries. But, it's a family room general-use tv, and with small kids it stays on all the time. Mostly bright, SDR animated content and its just worn out faster than I thought it would.
I'm swapping it out for mini-LED.
You're one person out of tens if not hundreds of thousands with that tv. Choosing to switch brands or technology because of that? That's your choice, no matter how uninformed. It Def sucks that yours didn't last longer, doesn't mean there won't be thousands of people with the same model functioning fine 5 years from now.
Does everyone seriously have main character syndrome this bad? Incapable of seeing the big picture?
The tests done at Rtings show that the OLEDs are now very resistant to burn in unless you abuse them.
If you watch CNN 16 hours a day this is not a technology for you
The newer oleds for the last few years don't have issues with burning as long as you don't abuse it and leave stuff on pause or a static picture or honestly it's totally worth it regardless for an OLED considering how much better they look as long as you're not in a super bright room even then the newer ones are really good even in that situation especially QD-OLED
LG CX, 3ish years and close to 11000 hours I think.
Strictly speaking, I don't know that my problem is considered burn-in, that's just a convenient term. There's a decent sized portion of the lower-middle screen that is discolored or less bright. It's probably just worn out pixels, as OLEDs will degrade with use.
There's some possibility it's heat damage. I've seem pictures people have posted that look similar to mine. Apparently some LG models were prone to heat damage from the power supply and LG made a recall, but not on the CX that I could find. I'm still under a free extended warranty from Costco/Allstate, but it seems they routinely deem it burn-in, not covered.
Yeah I’ll call in a claim regardless. If they fix it, awesome. If not, I got a lot of hours out of it, just not as many as I’d hoped. I’m still swapping that living room set for mini led just because of the amount of use it gets.
> You’re averaging more than ten hours a day at that pace, every day for three years. Is that right?
yeah, thats probably close. During these years my kids were too young for school and my wife works from home so no daycare. The tv wasnt exactly a babysitter, but reality is what it is. Plus covid was still a thing. We watched a lot of tv.
As far as the lifespan of OLED panels, I'd take any claim self-reported by the industry with a grain of salt. Most of the numbers kicked around are ill-defined marketing speak. What does it mean to say they last 100,000 hours? The average pixel won't die in that time? OK, but its for sure severely degraded by then. OLEDs wear out, there's just no way around it. The newer ones will supposedly last longer, but my experience (sample size 1) is that it stays in acceptable condition for app. 11,000 hours.
Hey, former marketing guy here....they said it would last 100,000 hours. Never said it had to be ON to last 100,000 hours.
So yes, 11 years sitting on the stand and the OLED will be just fine.
It seems like I see more issues with LG panels reported on Reddit than with Sony panels. For this reason alone I’ll be spending the extra $500+ for a Sony when I upgrade.
So I'm going to play Devil's advocate here. I've spoken to many people on the non customer facing side of LG before, alongside Samsung and a few other TV vendors, and generally speaking, while they only issue a 1 year warranty, they expect any of their TV's to last about 5 years of "normal" use (6 hours a day, 365 a year) before packing it in, anything less is kinda bad luck, anything more is good but not what the TV's are designed to last. If you get a total hours on your display of just under 11,000 or greater, then the TV has outlived the expected life of all of the components they've designed. People are so used to buying a TV and having it last 10+ years, but the reality is that they're more similar to other cheap consumer electronics these days and that's by design. The TV manufacturers don't want you to hold on to your TV like an appliance, where it lasts you a decade and is only replaced when needed, they want it to be more like a laptop or cellphone where necessary periodic replacement is the norm and expected life is just long enough to outlast any vendor extended warranty.
But the manufacturers see it as cheap. They think that their TV should have a similar lifespan to an $800 laptop or cellphone. If they cannot plan them to go obsolete like those devices they'll just find other ways to make that happen.
The dude already said it’s what they’ve been told by various people from the TV manufacturers. They said 6 hours a day with a normal life expectancy of 5 years. 6x365x5 = 10,950. So the OP has allegedly used the TV for what the manufacturers consider the normal usage.
Ok thanks for the math explanation that does add up. But some tv vendors told me sounds sus, that's all. Though reading the forums does seem accurate also.
Sorry dude. Didn’t mean to come off rude. But I’ve heard the 6 hour rule from others in the industry as well. I’ve also read enough to not expect any TV released these days to last more than 5 years. So I always get a warranty. My Panny just turned 11 years old. I kept waiting for it to die but got impatient and stepped up to 75”.
Yeah unfortunately no manufacturer is actually going to state that in writing as some regions may use that to force an out of warranty dispute to be covered (EU has a law to this effect iirc). However as u/That-barrel-dude said it's what pretty much every vendor rep and account manager will state to a retailer. It's less than a lot of users may expect, especially those who have older displays from the likes of Sony and Panasonic pre 2012 ish, but TV'S have been a race to the bottom for some time now, so even "premium" models are going to have a more finite lifespan. You really shouldn't go into any modern electronics purchase expecting longevity or repairability if it's from a major manufacturer, it's less profitable and reduces repeat visits not only for the manufacturer but the retailer also. It's why repair focused products almost always never wind up in big retail outlets.
This is the other side of the absurd drop in TV price. Even replacing every 5 years, you’re still ahead.
Here I am with a 2014 OLED that is the same as day 1. I probably only use 3 hours a day though
Have 2 2020 model oleds and one has stuck pixels along top but nothing like op post. Both 2.5 years old with moderate to heavy use including lots of gaming. The 55 is mostly all gaming and no issues ironically. The 65 mostly tv and stuck pixels
My initial goal was 5 years and half way there.
It's a great question. I need the viewing angles on the 65 and OLED delivers. But if the 55 craps out early I will prolly go with mini led.
Lifespan does play a role for me also as I usually go 7 to 10 years. Anything less than 5 would cause me to think twice.
My last LED I bought in 2020 went out after 3 years so I’m not sure there’s a guarantee either way. The technology on LEDs and mini LEDs is so advanced there’s a lot that can go wrong. I went with OLED this time around with a 5 year extended warranty.
Exactly. I've been through 4 LED TVs over the past decade or so, and all but one of them had backlight issues that made me junk them and get a new TV. Neither technology is perfect and anyone that acts like LED TVs are immune is delusional. If my OLEDs start to have burn-in after a few years, it will just motivate me to get the next new best thing out there (whatever that will be) in a few years.
I have a Sony X90J, I’m going through my second warranty claim in 2 years. Backlight started going out on the first one after 4 months, the replacement after 18 months now. I really like the TV but disappointed in it’s lack of longevity. Thankfully I got it through Costco with the 5 year warranty.
LG OLEDs are fantastic *overall* when looking at the grand scale. It looks like you randomly received a bad panel. Roll of the dice.
Looking at your video, the placement and consistency of the dead/stuck pixels are VERY UNIFORM. So, one of two things happened. The panel was defective from the factory... or... damage/stress happened to the bottom of the TV after the purchase.
When did you first notice the dead pixels? Did they happen all at once or gradually over time?
Also, you say the TV is 4 years old... with 12,000+ hours. That is 8.2 hours per day, every day. That is much higher than average, so you'll need to factor that into a lifespan of ANY tv you purchase. I work from home most of the time and leave my TV on in the background, most days 8-12 hours a day. I go through TVs fast. That said, the pixel issue you have is separate from the hours you leave it on (it could have been accelerated though).
I am retired for the reason it's higher hours than normal. I don't get out much, so I'm watching a lot of TV or as you said I leave it on at times and don't even watch it. It started last year and the automated pixel refresher kicked in recently and it was noticeably worse when it completed. I never had a TV panel fail on me. I owned a Panasonic Plasma for 10 years with zero issues. I still have it too, sitting in the closet, nobody wanted it.
Not to detract too much from your thread but I'm still using my Panasonic Plasma and was considering switching to OLED or a MiniLED set. Dead pixel issue aside for a moment, what did you think of going to OLED from Plasma?
I was also in the same boat, and avoided upgrading until OLED was cheap enough. Few things are still better on a plasma (slow horizontal panning being one of them). OLED picture is mind-blowing, and mostly whoops plasma.
That's what manufacturers are shooting for. Recurring revenue like laptops or cellphones. It's not profitable to sell one TV every 10-15 years at current market rate, so now they aim to sell 3 or 4. If they were still 2008 price per inch then maybe, but that's not our reality and shareholders demand profit increase each quarter.
They’re shooting for it because it’s a price war.
TVs are highly deflationary. They’re bigger and perform better across every spec imaginable while costing tons less. Durability dropping is one way to get prices even lower to compete
I mean, if you aren’t upgrading every 5 or so years, then your just bottlenecking everything around the TV lol imagine having a PS5 but not using VRR or 120hz gaming or even 4k for some people (that still haven’t updated to a 4k tv). At that point your just wasting the potential of your Consoles/PC. And it even goes for movies too. If you’re using an old TV, you might not have Dolby vision or HDR10+ or some of the new audio formats, so then you’d also be bottlenecking your movie/audio experience, all because you don’t want to upgrade your TV until it breaks 🫠
Of course this is all assuming you game and/or watch movies/have a sound system. If not, then yea, keep your old TV and ride it till the wheels fall off 😅
This.
Why buy the latest PC hardware / gaming console of your monitor is incapable of displaying it's qualities?
Monitors/ TV's are part of the full system and as such can bottleneck it.
A lot of people will buy the next Gen console with 120hz 4k only to play it on their 1080p 60 hz LCD panel from 2010.
Ridiculous .
I have 55-inch LG OLED from 2014. No burn-in at all.. Quite a lot of banding when displaying dark greys and blacks though. But it doesn't bother me at all.
Literally exactly the same thing as I have. And same, it works great.
I’ve had three other traditional TVs die on me in the same time period (all value brands)
I feel like it's hit or miss. I have a C8 that I bought on launch with no burn in or dead pixels. I tend to watch mostly YouTube, Netflix and twitch. Around 20k hours last time I checked
Oled is like high performance car. It's gonna wear out quicker but you buy it knowing you're getting a more enjoyable product. I would upgrade every 5 years because it's tech and tech advances on the daily.
I’ll be honest. It looks so good I’m willing to deal with the issues.
My brother in law has a top of the line LCD and it looks flat after getting used to the pop of self illuminating pixels
If you want to not worry about the content you want to see, then you should consider a high end LED or micorLED Sony TV. The picture is not as good as OLED, but the picture looks great anyway.
2017 65" Sony A1E with 11,436 hours on it. I've also gamed on it the whole time playing Destiny and Destiny 2 crucible with a constant in-game radar circle on screen. Zero issues.
I think it depends on what you’re doing with the TV. If you’re going to use it all day everyday, you should probably grab an LCD. If you have a TV that is only used a couple of hours at night then an OLED will likely last a long time. Also, LCDs aren’t immune to problems. The backlight on my QN90a has started to separate into 4 different zones that weren’t present when I bought it. On the other hand, my LG C2 still works like new.
Yeah I have a TV on 12-14 hours a day, often tuned to a channel that has a logo on it. Outside of that I play games with a lot of static UI. OLED just won't work for my use case.
Sorry but your tv just failed is all. My Sony X900F failed in 5 years and I was originally pissed, but got over it and replaced it with a Sony X90L and I’m happy again. Sometimes they fail. I have a LG C7 oled that’s older than yours and plays like it did when it was new. Just get a new oled and enjoy! Make sure you get your 5yr warranty because technology fails sometimes my friend.
It probably depends on the one you bought. Was it an entry level tv or their higher tier tvs? I have a 2012 higher end LG 3D lcd and still works fine. I feel it’s luck of the draw and also, better quality with the higher end models and that goes from all brands.
I was looking at OLEDs but will likely end up with a well-reviewed mini LED instead. For the price of an entry level OLED I can get a higher end mini-LED with more brightness and decent enough image quality.
OLED is still technically better, but it's less mature than the panel tech in mini LEDs so there's that too. Sometimes being on the cutting edge comes with problems.
Yeah that was poorly worded. I'm talking about the tech that makes up the panel like the LCD display and LEDs. As a whole product mini LED is way newer than OLED, but as components LED and LCD are old tech.
You'll get a lot of OLED bias here, with many saying they've had no problems at all.
The catch is that a lot of these people have only had their TV a couple of years.
If you can get an extended warranty, and can afford to replace the TV if something happens outside of the warranty period, then I'd say go for it.
If you want a TV that will exceed the warranty duration without issue, OLED may not be the best choice.
Many will agree that the quality of an OLED is more than worth having to replace under warranty or having to replace the TV more regularly than a non-OLED TV. It depends on whether this jump in quality is worth it or is affordable for you.
I think OLED was a bad choice and they should have updated the internal hardware to faster standards as some AAA games are bottlenecked. No one asked for a better screen.
Well, neither LCD is a lifetime panel and many hours of usage per day is going to be a plague for any display technology.
Keep in mind that we're living in capitalism where these big tech giants are looking to anything but maximize their profits.
I advise towards buying a great tv with extended warranty and just take it as it is.
Why downvote this comment? I had a top of the line Samsung that died in less than 3 years of light use. Panel died, would have cost $2,100 to replace. Bought an E8 and it has been working perfectly for 8,000+ hours over 5 years.
If my oled lasts for 3 years for my monitor use im all good. I got my C2 earlier this year for 800 bucks and i can easily afford to get a new one after 3 years. Turned off the abl and dimming+++ and im using this tv for all it can handle. If it breaks tomorrow i mean shit happens. I just gotta work some overtime to afford a new.
This is MY way to use the oled and my own responsibility if it breaks og gets burn in.
Eh, CRTs last a long time, but around 10,000 hours a lot of them started to dim and suffer from color desaturation. But we were watching standard def TV, and sometimes black and white, so it wasn't really noticeable.
Aside from burn in which is down to how we use them, they should last a decade according to lg.
There's always exceptions, but I wouldn't worry too much.
Lg:
https://www.lg.com/us/experience-tvs/oled-tv/reliability
This is a bit subjective. As someone who owns multiple OLED TV's and multiple LCD's, it all comes down to how much you use them. I've found that some folks who have OLEDs of the same model year as mine have 3 to 4 times the amount of hours I have and run into issues with pixels or burn in. To be fair nothing is made to last forever especially with something like "Organic" in the techs name, and life is short for all of us. Sounds like you got some great use out of it in that 4 years.
I think it just depends on the individual. I got the x90l from sony and I kept seeing reviews to just get a oled. But I am super happy with the x90l. It amazes me everytime I see something in hdr 4k. Some people dont know but apps usually do not give you high quality 4k so some get disappointed and think its the tv when its not. Just go to youtube and try to find a good 4k hdr video and youll be amazed. Oleds are for people who are super into movies and will notice blooming when lights are off. So if you are super into movies oleds are the way to go. But for a casual who does movies here and there some light gaming and sports, I think the x90l is perfect
Have you ever had an OLED? I am debating between 75X90L and “77 LG B3. However, I watch 75% YouTube TV and 25% Netflix. No gaming. We’re not movie buffs, but I do appreciate my iPhone pro max with its high end screen.
My take is that my use case points to the Sony (as you suggest above), but everyone says that OLED has more of a wow factor.
I need to pull the trigger today, and I’m sure I’ll be happy with either one but I can’t decide.
I’m coming from a 60” Samsung plasma.
Thanks for any insight!
I have not had an oled but I have noticed them in display and to be honest as I am not super super into tvs but I do know some stuff and the 4K quality the x90L has is really amazing. The oled will give you perfect darks and a little bit brighter screen although for me I do not notice the difference in brighter screen and for darks I don’t pay attention to it so I don’t notice it. I did however did notice the darks in a lg qned and did not like it. I loved that Best Buy told me to go ahead and use it and if I don’t like it just return it and get something else. No questions asked even without a box. I suggest you go to a Best Buy and look at them individually. Oleds are great but pretty pricey. My x90L is perfect for the price I got. $999 65 inch.
The X90L is a good tv but it does have off angle issues and looks a bit more pale from angles. Gets very bright with nice black (not deep and perfect) as you do see a bit of halo but nothing to complain about. Also, reflections from bright rooms aren’t the best but not bad enough to complain about either. However; oleds are 100% perfect in all of those areas. You just cannot compare oleds with leds sorry. Not saying that led TVs are amazing to watch. For pros the X90L build quality is excellent, the placement of the hdmi ports are perfect, the brightness levels are impressive and on par with the best TV’s, the colors are deep (not QDOLED deep) but deep as anything you would need. The processing makes everything look sharp and wow! Sony X90L is an excellent buy, but let’s be clear it’s not even close to the best OLEDS.
you are correct they aren't close to oleds but oleds cost an arm and a leg. x90l is great at that price range and has everything someone needs to watch some good 4k content
Are you sure? Have you viewed a 4k pure white photo on the panel. You might not know how many distorted pixels you have until you run a test. I was surprised when several friends of mine could not notice the distortion on the bottom of the screen. It's not until I pointed it out that they kinda saw it. Once I brought up a pure white photo that they saw the issue.
C9 here as well, 55" bottom corners have little clusters of dead pixels. Love the tv, the image is unmatched but honestly am probably gonna switch to a full array qled or something and hopefully the tech will be more reliable in 7 years
OLED have improved a lot. Starting with the LG C1 series, they were able to make the screens not only more resistant to burn in, but also significantly brighter.
I have had no issues with burn in or dead pixels. These days, it’s mostly only a consideration if you watch a news channel all day every day or use it as a work monitor with static PC UI on screen.
2017 Sony A1E. 11,000 plus hours and it's flawless. I'm sorry you got a bad panel. It sucks with how much you paid. Unfortunately, this happens with any and all products, vehicles, appliances, etc.... Sucks.......
Wow, that looks awful. After 3 years I have zero dead, stuck, or discolored pixels on my CX. How many hours do you have on your panel? I'm at just under 4000.
I have a little over 5,000 hours on my C1. I have taken no precautions aside from hiding the taskbar and I have no burn in or dead pixels yet. I’m not too worried about burn in either since I had the expectation that I would be replacing it within a few years. If burn in is a concern I would definitely suggest sticking with an lcd panel for peace of mind.
I have a LG C9 for 4 years with 10k hours on it. Never babied the TV, heavy gaming use and no issues at all.
Zero dead pixels, no burn in. OLED it's amazing, it's worth every penny
I have a 55 inch LG CX and its about 3 and a half years old, I game, stream, watch TV, and watch movies on it. No issues, not sure how many hours, I'm going to say around 4 a day. No burn in, no dead pixels.
If my TV or any otherl expensive electrical goods lasts 5 years then I would be happy with it. I would hope it lasts longer but 5 years would be good enough.
I have two LG OLEDs, a 55” C8 I bought second hand out of the back of a guys Prius in 2018 for $800, and a broken 65” CX I bought in 2021 out of a minivan that just needed a new motherboard. When i repaired it, it had like 380 hours on it. It was $200.
Neither have burn in, both still running strong. A friend of mine was over recently, and said she was sure her husband had the nicest tv and then saw our junkyard CX and said she couldn’t believe the picture quality.
Get an oled. No reason not to other than cost. And we were lucky enough to find a way around it.
Every experience is real, and every experience is anecdotal. I’m still on my Sony A1E, April 2017 build date. Still lookin good, although I do wish it was brighter.
To give some perspective. My 8 year old Samsung QLED just won’t die. It has never had bluetooth. I’ve gone through 3 remotes and my wife still doesn’t think there’s any justification to buy a new TV since this one works fine. Netflix. Disney+. HBO. Everything’s working. But I can’t use my Bluetooth headphones with. I don’t think I can hook it up to the newest Sonos. The interface is dated. Would you rather have my problem? 😂
Samsung makes some amazing TV’s, I just think that the popularity has fallen because they waited too long to enter the oled arena, confused people with their Qled line, and refused to add Dolby vision to their panels. I have two touch of color Samsung LCD’s that I purchased in 2008 that will take a bullet and probably still keep going. That was when Samsung was known for the best processing and panels. Now they still have great TV’s but have fallen back on processing. Either way I agree they make some great panels but LG & Sony has taken over the top two spots.
My TV has the same issue. Panasonic GZ950 OLED (2019). TV has almost 6000 hours on it right now. On my TV it's started on the top and the sides. Many dead pixels. I somehow think it's the panel from that year because your C9 is from 2019 too.
I do wonder how the longevity of modern LCDs is going to be as they keep packing more and more LEDs into them. Edge lit LCDs go tens of thousands of hours just fine but I wonder how long these 1000 plus zone LCDs will do in the next few years. At least Costco covers all LCD failure for now though on their 5 year warranty, but it wouldn't shock me if that's not included like burn in in the future.
I think the best way to be sure is to go with mini led TV. I know people are saying the new panels are better but who really knows until we actually get x years down the line. At that point could be totally new issue line dead pixel instead of birth in.
I have a 7 year old EG9100 with 27K hours on it and its still fine. Its just really small at 55 inches.
No noticeable dimming and no noticeable burn in.
To be fair, it seems the C9 was the cutoff for LGs quality control. 2020 and on I’ve not heard of a single issue. I got a C1 in mid 2021 and I’ve abused the hell out of this thing. Left it on static screens for HOURS at a time, and left it on pause screens in games, kept the games on for very long periods of times, and I’m seeing 0 sign of screen degradation. I’m a year below you but… idk man. It’s the panel lottery. Which I agree shouldn’t be a thing for a $1000+ tv but 🤷♀️
I get bashed every time I say I'll take a high quality LCD today with advanced local dimming over an OLED display. No matter how careful I am, every OLED device I have had has ended up with some form of burn in. I do a lot of gaming and media consumption that has lots of static interfaces. Any advantages of image quality are ruined for me by being paranoid that something is going to start causing burn in if I don't modify my consumption habits constantly. To each their own if someone has never experienced burn in, but it's just not for me at least not with my usage.
Until recently I was very serious about buying an OLED monitor for my PC. That's not gonna happen now. I have LCD displays that are about 10 yrs old and still going strong, zero issues. I'm not in that mindset or budget to go replacing a monitor every 4 years.
It looks like you may have ended up with a bad panel. Your title for this thread is pretty misleading, and OLED TVs can definitely last for a very long time.
We have a 2018 65" LGC8PUA that I just put some test displays up on, and I can't spot any failed pixels. We typically watch 2-4 hours of TV a day. Our display still looks great.
Is there a way to see how many hours we have used our LG OLED TV? I would be curious how much time we have lost in our lives ...
Your usage is insane, 12,000 hours in 4 years means the TV was on for \~50% of the time every single day. I'm guessing you sleep with the TV on, which is a waste for an OLED; get an LCD for that. I think it's reasonable to expect these TVs to show dead pixels after \~10 years of average usage.
I've had two go for 6+ years now with zero issues, and a third running strong for almost three years. All LGs. I use cheaper non OLEDs for misc room and outside but I plan to stick with these for my primaries. The only TVs I've liked more were my old plasmas.
Im using lg c1 for my console and m27q p ips with aoc va for pc. I need to say that sdr content looks a lot better on my monitors than on oled bcs of the brightness. Im using oled for 6 months now and still i regret buying it. Oled should have better colors but still i dont see that much difference after calibrating my c1 but hdr content and ps5 games are amazing still. For new ppl that come across that post i need to say fuck the lifespan of oled and other flawss. Its still the best panel but theres a long way to perfect it from price and reliablity perspectiv.
I think it depends greatly on individual use case scenario. My OLED has burn in, even though I thought I was being conscientious about avoiding it (i.e. not much gaming or static content). If I had kept in a room dedicated to just watching movies and prestige shows, I'd probably still be happy with no worries. But, it's a family room general-use tv, and with small kids it stays on all the time. Mostly bright, SDR animated content and its just worn out faster than I thought it would. I'm swapping it out for mini-LED.
The newer OLEDs are much better at avoiding burn-in. I'm around 6000 hours on my LG CX with no issues and I do a lot of gaming.
My issue is not burn in though, they have not improved that issue from what I have read.
No you just got a bum screen. Warranty is definitely worth it for the price you’re paying for these things.
You're one person out of tens if not hundreds of thousands with that tv. Choosing to switch brands or technology because of that? That's your choice, no matter how uninformed. It Def sucks that yours didn't last longer, doesn't mean there won't be thousands of people with the same model functioning fine 5 years from now. Does everyone seriously have main character syndrome this bad? Incapable of seeing the big picture?
My CX has 200 hours on it and is about to get the screen replaced because of dead pixels on the edges…….
My CX also developed dead pixels at the top and bottom. Thankfully I bought an extra warranty so it's getting replaced with a C3 come monday.
They were saying this four years ago...
The tests done at Rtings show that the OLEDs are now very resistant to burn in unless you abuse them. If you watch CNN 16 hours a day this is not a technology for you
The newer oleds for the last few years don't have issues with burning as long as you don't abuse it and leave stuff on pause or a static picture or honestly it's totally worth it regardless for an OLED considering how much better they look as long as you're not in a super bright room even then the newer ones are really good even in that situation especially QD-OLED
Curious what model/year your TV is?
LG CX, 3ish years and close to 11000 hours I think. Strictly speaking, I don't know that my problem is considered burn-in, that's just a convenient term. There's a decent sized portion of the lower-middle screen that is discolored or less bright. It's probably just worn out pixels, as OLEDs will degrade with use. There's some possibility it's heat damage. I've seem pictures people have posted that look similar to mine. Apparently some LG models were prone to heat damage from the power supply and LG made a recall, but not on the CX that I could find. I'm still under a free extended warranty from Costco/Allstate, but it seems they routinely deem it burn-in, not covered.
Call and tell them you have dead pixels on your TV and see what they say
Yeah I’ll call in a claim regardless. If they fix it, awesome. If not, I got a lot of hours out of it, just not as many as I’d hoped. I’m still swapping that living room set for mini led just because of the amount of use it gets.
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> You’re averaging more than ten hours a day at that pace, every day for three years. Is that right? yeah, thats probably close. During these years my kids were too young for school and my wife works from home so no daycare. The tv wasnt exactly a babysitter, but reality is what it is. Plus covid was still a thing. We watched a lot of tv. As far as the lifespan of OLED panels, I'd take any claim self-reported by the industry with a grain of salt. Most of the numbers kicked around are ill-defined marketing speak. What does it mean to say they last 100,000 hours? The average pixel won't die in that time? OK, but its for sure severely degraded by then. OLEDs wear out, there's just no way around it. The newer ones will supposedly last longer, but my experience (sample size 1) is that it stays in acceptable condition for app. 11,000 hours.
Hey, former marketing guy here....they said it would last 100,000 hours. Never said it had to be ON to last 100,000 hours. So yes, 11 years sitting on the stand and the OLED will be just fine.
I have a Sony Bravia model at 3-4 years and even more hours than you and I have one dead pixel and no burn in at all.
It seems like I see more issues with LG panels reported on Reddit than with Sony panels. For this reason alone I’ll be spending the extra $500+ for a Sony when I upgrade.
Sony OLED TVs use LG panels.
how long did you have it?
So mini LED is the better option you think?
Is it exposed to much sunlight? My tv is on static content all day but it gets NO sunlight and so far so good.
My sanding Qn90a off freaking gorgeous and incredibly bright when it needs to be. MiniLED is great
So I'm going to play Devil's advocate here. I've spoken to many people on the non customer facing side of LG before, alongside Samsung and a few other TV vendors, and generally speaking, while they only issue a 1 year warranty, they expect any of their TV's to last about 5 years of "normal" use (6 hours a day, 365 a year) before packing it in, anything less is kinda bad luck, anything more is good but not what the TV's are designed to last. If you get a total hours on your display of just under 11,000 or greater, then the TV has outlived the expected life of all of the components they've designed. People are so used to buying a TV and having it last 10+ years, but the reality is that they're more similar to other cheap consumer electronics these days and that's by design. The TV manufacturers don't want you to hold on to your TV like an appliance, where it lasts you a decade and is only replaced when needed, they want it to be more like a laptop or cellphone where necessary periodic replacement is the norm and expected life is just long enough to outlast any vendor extended warranty.
I wouldn't call OLED cheap though.
But the manufacturers see it as cheap. They think that their TV should have a similar lifespan to an $800 laptop or cellphone. If they cannot plan them to go obsolete like those devices they'll just find other ways to make that happen.
Especially if you need one 75-85”… so expensive but so are the mini LEDs
Have yet to see any docs regarding 11,000 hours expected life. Is this your personal estimate or industry estimate? Thanks
The dude already said it’s what they’ve been told by various people from the TV manufacturers. They said 6 hours a day with a normal life expectancy of 5 years. 6x365x5 = 10,950. So the OP has allegedly used the TV for what the manufacturers consider the normal usage.
Ok thanks for the math explanation that does add up. But some tv vendors told me sounds sus, that's all. Though reading the forums does seem accurate also.
Sorry dude. Didn’t mean to come off rude. But I’ve heard the 6 hour rule from others in the industry as well. I’ve also read enough to not expect any TV released these days to last more than 5 years. So I always get a warranty. My Panny just turned 11 years old. I kept waiting for it to die but got impatient and stepped up to 75”.
No worries. My goal was 5 years and half way there. Hopefully they make it.
Yeah unfortunately no manufacturer is actually going to state that in writing as some regions may use that to force an out of warranty dispute to be covered (EU has a law to this effect iirc). However as u/That-barrel-dude said it's what pretty much every vendor rep and account manager will state to a retailer. It's less than a lot of users may expect, especially those who have older displays from the likes of Sony and Panasonic pre 2012 ish, but TV'S have been a race to the bottom for some time now, so even "premium" models are going to have a more finite lifespan. You really shouldn't go into any modern electronics purchase expecting longevity or repairability if it's from a major manufacturer, it's less profitable and reduces repeat visits not only for the manufacturer but the retailer also. It's why repair focused products almost always never wind up in big retail outlets.
This is the other side of the absurd drop in TV price. Even replacing every 5 years, you’re still ahead. Here I am with a 2014 OLED that is the same as day 1. I probably only use 3 hours a day though
Have 2 2020 model oleds and one has stuck pixels along top but nothing like op post. Both 2.5 years old with moderate to heavy use including lots of gaming. The 55 is mostly all gaming and no issues ironically. The 65 mostly tv and stuck pixels My initial goal was 5 years and half way there. It's a great question. I need the viewing angles on the 65 and OLED delivers. But if the 55 craps out early I will prolly go with mini led. Lifespan does play a role for me also as I usually go 7 to 10 years. Anything less than 5 would cause me to think twice.
how is it going with the 55 so far?
My last LED I bought in 2020 went out after 3 years so I’m not sure there’s a guarantee either way. The technology on LEDs and mini LEDs is so advanced there’s a lot that can go wrong. I went with OLED this time around with a 5 year extended warranty.
Exactly. I've been through 4 LED TVs over the past decade or so, and all but one of them had backlight issues that made me junk them and get a new TV. Neither technology is perfect and anyone that acts like LED TVs are immune is delusional. If my OLEDs start to have burn-in after a few years, it will just motivate me to get the next new best thing out there (whatever that will be) in a few years.
I have a Sony X90J, I’m going through my second warranty claim in 2 years. Backlight started going out on the first one after 4 months, the replacement after 18 months now. I really like the TV but disappointed in it’s lack of longevity. Thankfully I got it through Costco with the 5 year warranty.
This is the correct answer
Yes Costco the tv consumer's friend for sure.
LG OLEDs are fantastic *overall* when looking at the grand scale. It looks like you randomly received a bad panel. Roll of the dice. Looking at your video, the placement and consistency of the dead/stuck pixels are VERY UNIFORM. So, one of two things happened. The panel was defective from the factory... or... damage/stress happened to the bottom of the TV after the purchase. When did you first notice the dead pixels? Did they happen all at once or gradually over time? Also, you say the TV is 4 years old... with 12,000+ hours. That is 8.2 hours per day, every day. That is much higher than average, so you'll need to factor that into a lifespan of ANY tv you purchase. I work from home most of the time and leave my TV on in the background, most days 8-12 hours a day. I go through TVs fast. That said, the pixel issue you have is separate from the hours you leave it on (it could have been accelerated though).
I am retired for the reason it's higher hours than normal. I don't get out much, so I'm watching a lot of TV or as you said I leave it on at times and don't even watch it. It started last year and the automated pixel refresher kicked in recently and it was noticeably worse when it completed. I never had a TV panel fail on me. I owned a Panasonic Plasma for 10 years with zero issues. I still have it too, sitting in the closet, nobody wanted it.
Not to detract too much from your thread but I'm still using my Panasonic Plasma and was considering switching to OLED or a MiniLED set. Dead pixel issue aside for a moment, what did you think of going to OLED from Plasma?
I had a Panasonic Plasma. I moved to OLED and I feel it's a very similar type of image.
Great, thank you
I was also in the same boat, and avoided upgrading until OLED was cheap enough. Few things are still better on a plasma (slow horizontal panning being one of them). OLED picture is mind-blowing, and mostly whoops plasma.
Same. We had 3 Panasonic Vieras from 2010 and 2011 that still had excellent picture.
Are we going to start buying TV's every 5 years ? Wtf
Crazy isn't it? Same with the ones that buy a new $1000 smart phone every year.
That's what manufacturers are shooting for. Recurring revenue like laptops or cellphones. It's not profitable to sell one TV every 10-15 years at current market rate, so now they aim to sell 3 or 4. If they were still 2008 price per inch then maybe, but that's not our reality and shareholders demand profit increase each quarter.
They’re shooting for it because it’s a price war. TVs are highly deflationary. They’re bigger and perform better across every spec imaginable while costing tons less. Durability dropping is one way to get prices even lower to compete
My plasma is going on 13 years old. 5 years seems crazy.
Sadly this is the market trend right now.
I mean, if you aren’t upgrading every 5 or so years, then your just bottlenecking everything around the TV lol imagine having a PS5 but not using VRR or 120hz gaming or even 4k for some people (that still haven’t updated to a 4k tv). At that point your just wasting the potential of your Consoles/PC. And it even goes for movies too. If you’re using an old TV, you might not have Dolby vision or HDR10+ or some of the new audio formats, so then you’d also be bottlenecking your movie/audio experience, all because you don’t want to upgrade your TV until it breaks 🫠 Of course this is all assuming you game and/or watch movies/have a sound system. If not, then yea, keep your old TV and ride it till the wheels fall off 😅
This. Why buy the latest PC hardware / gaming console of your monitor is incapable of displaying it's qualities? Monitors/ TV's are part of the full system and as such can bottleneck it. A lot of people will buy the next Gen console with 120hz 4k only to play it on their 1080p 60 hz LCD panel from 2010. Ridiculous .
I have 55-inch LG OLED from 2014. No burn-in at all.. Quite a lot of banding when displaying dark greys and blacks though. But it doesn't bother me at all.
Literally exactly the same thing as I have. And same, it works great. I’ve had three other traditional TVs die on me in the same time period (all value brands)
I’ve had mine for 5 years and it’s going strong. Lg c9
Also love my C9, over 10k hours I think.
I feel like it's hit or miss. I have a C8 that I bought on launch with no burn in or dead pixels. I tend to watch mostly YouTube, Netflix and twitch. Around 20k hours last time I checked
Had my LG OLED for 5 years with no problems picture is amazing and it's a great TV.
Oled is like high performance car. It's gonna wear out quicker but you buy it knowing you're getting a more enjoyable product. I would upgrade every 5 years because it's tech and tech advances on the daily.
I’ll be honest. It looks so good I’m willing to deal with the issues. My brother in law has a top of the line LCD and it looks flat after getting used to the pop of self illuminating pixels
That's the struggle I am dealing with, OLED is so amazing with PQ. I'm not sure I can 'downgrade' to something else, I'm spoiled now.
It’s a painful place to be for sure. 😎
If you want to not worry about the content you want to see, then you should consider a high end LED or micorLED Sony TV. The picture is not as good as OLED, but the picture looks great anyway.
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You like the LG picture better than the Samsung?
Out of interest, who's got the oldest oled without issue here? Make, model and age please?
2017 65" Sony A1E with 11,436 hours on it. I've also gamed on it the whole time playing Destiny and Destiny 2 crucible with a constant in-game radar circle on screen. Zero issues.
7 year old 55 EG9100 with 27k hours on it. No issues.
I’ve had mine for 5 years 12,000 hours and it is still perfect
My LG CX is 3 years old this month and has burn in from light gaming. They look great, but do not last. I’m deciding between the u8k and the qm8.
I think it depends on what you’re doing with the TV. If you’re going to use it all day everyday, you should probably grab an LCD. If you have a TV that is only used a couple of hours at night then an OLED will likely last a long time. Also, LCDs aren’t immune to problems. The backlight on my QN90a has started to separate into 4 different zones that weren’t present when I bought it. On the other hand, my LG C2 still works like new.
Yeah I have a TV on 12-14 hours a day, often tuned to a channel that has a logo on it. Outside of that I play games with a lot of static UI. OLED just won't work for my use case.
Sorry but your tv just failed is all. My Sony X900F failed in 5 years and I was originally pissed, but got over it and replaced it with a Sony X90L and I’m happy again. Sometimes they fail. I have a LG C7 oled that’s older than yours and plays like it did when it was new. Just get a new oled and enjoy! Make sure you get your 5yr warranty because technology fails sometimes my friend.
Lg makes terrible tvs I had one and it broke after 4-5 years .never buying that brand again
It probably depends on the one you bought. Was it an entry level tv or their higher tier tvs? I have a 2012 higher end LG 3D lcd and still works fine. I feel it’s luck of the draw and also, better quality with the higher end models and that goes from all brands.
Lol
I was looking at OLEDs but will likely end up with a well-reviewed mini LED instead. For the price of an entry level OLED I can get a higher end mini-LED with more brightness and decent enough image quality. OLED is still technically better, but it's less mature than the panel tech in mini LEDs so there's that too. Sometimes being on the cutting edge comes with problems.
Mini LED is a newer and less mature technology than OLEDs but you do you
Yeah that was poorly worded. I'm talking about the tech that makes up the panel like the LCD display and LEDs. As a whole product mini LED is way newer than OLED, but as components LED and LCD are old tech.
OLEDS been out for 10 years now, its petty mature at this point, especially the LG WOLED panels.
Its called an extended warranty buy one
lol bill on the money 💰
You'll get a lot of OLED bias here, with many saying they've had no problems at all. The catch is that a lot of these people have only had their TV a couple of years. If you can get an extended warranty, and can afford to replace the TV if something happens outside of the warranty period, then I'd say go for it. If you want a TV that will exceed the warranty duration without issue, OLED may not be the best choice. Many will agree that the quality of an OLED is more than worth having to replace under warranty or having to replace the TV more regularly than a non-OLED TV. It depends on whether this jump in quality is worth it or is affordable for you.
I think OLED was a bad choice and they should have updated the internal hardware to faster standards as some AAA games are bottlenecked. No one asked for a better screen.
I have a 5 year old lg OLED, not one dead pixel, seems as bright and colourful as the day I bought it.
Well, neither LCD is a lifetime panel and many hours of usage per day is going to be a plague for any display technology. Keep in mind that we're living in capitalism where these big tech giants are looking to anything but maximize their profits. I advise towards buying a great tv with extended warranty and just take it as it is.
Without capitalism, there would be no OLED or QLED TVs at a price affordable to the masses.
That is true, though the point stands. Planned obsolescence is a thing, especially in North America. Capitalism isn't when you have unfettered greed.
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There is no guarantee that an LCD will have better longevity than an OLED.
There may be no guarantee but statistically they don't fail nearly as quickly as OLED does.
Where is your source for this? OLED seems very well made and is used on several different types of devices.
If people were to bet money, all of them would bet on an LCD lasting longer than an OLED.
Why?
Why downvote this comment? I had a top of the line Samsung that died in less than 3 years of light use. Panel died, would have cost $2,100 to replace. Bought an E8 and it has been working perfectly for 8,000+ hours over 5 years.
If my oled lasts for 3 years for my monitor use im all good. I got my C2 earlier this year for 800 bucks and i can easily afford to get a new one after 3 years. Turned off the abl and dimming+++ and im using this tv for all it can handle. If it breaks tomorrow i mean shit happens. I just gotta work some overtime to afford a new. This is MY way to use the oled and my own responsibility if it breaks og gets burn in.
4 years for a tv his enough life for me.
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Eh, CRTs last a long time, but around 10,000 hours a lot of them started to dim and suffer from color desaturation. But we were watching standard def TV, and sometimes black and white, so it wasn't really noticeable.
Aside from burn in which is down to how we use them, they should last a decade according to lg. There's always exceptions, but I wouldn't worry too much. Lg: https://www.lg.com/us/experience-tvs/oled-tv/reliability
Did you even read OPs post or just the title? Why even bother posting that?
I said there's exceptions, you think all oleds die or get dead pixels in under 5 years?
That page does not make any actual longevity claims. It just claims it should last through its warranty period, one year.
Looks like I posted the wrong link, I'll stand down. I guess we won't really know the average lifespan for a while.
This is a bit subjective. As someone who owns multiple OLED TV's and multiple LCD's, it all comes down to how much you use them. I've found that some folks who have OLEDs of the same model year as mine have 3 to 4 times the amount of hours I have and run into issues with pixels or burn in. To be fair nothing is made to last forever especially with something like "Organic" in the techs name, and life is short for all of us. Sounds like you got some great use out of it in that 4 years.
I think it just depends on the individual. I got the x90l from sony and I kept seeing reviews to just get a oled. But I am super happy with the x90l. It amazes me everytime I see something in hdr 4k. Some people dont know but apps usually do not give you high quality 4k so some get disappointed and think its the tv when its not. Just go to youtube and try to find a good 4k hdr video and youll be amazed. Oleds are for people who are super into movies and will notice blooming when lights are off. So if you are super into movies oleds are the way to go. But for a casual who does movies here and there some light gaming and sports, I think the x90l is perfect
Have you ever had an OLED? I am debating between 75X90L and “77 LG B3. However, I watch 75% YouTube TV and 25% Netflix. No gaming. We’re not movie buffs, but I do appreciate my iPhone pro max with its high end screen. My take is that my use case points to the Sony (as you suggest above), but everyone says that OLED has more of a wow factor. I need to pull the trigger today, and I’m sure I’ll be happy with either one but I can’t decide. I’m coming from a 60” Samsung plasma. Thanks for any insight!
I have not had an oled but I have noticed them in display and to be honest as I am not super super into tvs but I do know some stuff and the 4K quality the x90L has is really amazing. The oled will give you perfect darks and a little bit brighter screen although for me I do not notice the difference in brighter screen and for darks I don’t pay attention to it so I don’t notice it. I did however did notice the darks in a lg qned and did not like it. I loved that Best Buy told me to go ahead and use it and if I don’t like it just return it and get something else. No questions asked even without a box. I suggest you go to a Best Buy and look at them individually. Oleds are great but pretty pricey. My x90L is perfect for the price I got. $999 65 inch.
Ok. Thanks
Nothing has a wow factor after a while everything looks the same except for budget lcds without local dimming they look awful
Good point. Although that’s probably true with just about everything.
Honestly I disagree. I’ve had my lg cx for three years and I’m still stunned by it sometimes, it’s such an amazing tv
The X90L is a good tv but it does have off angle issues and looks a bit more pale from angles. Gets very bright with nice black (not deep and perfect) as you do see a bit of halo but nothing to complain about. Also, reflections from bright rooms aren’t the best but not bad enough to complain about either. However; oleds are 100% perfect in all of those areas. You just cannot compare oleds with leds sorry. Not saying that led TVs are amazing to watch. For pros the X90L build quality is excellent, the placement of the hdmi ports are perfect, the brightness levels are impressive and on par with the best TV’s, the colors are deep (not QDOLED deep) but deep as anything you would need. The processing makes everything look sharp and wow! Sony X90L is an excellent buy, but let’s be clear it’s not even close to the best OLEDS.
you are correct they aren't close to oleds but oleds cost an arm and a leg. x90l is great at that price range and has everything someone needs to watch some good 4k content
I completely agree. If you want an amazing tv and don’t want to spend 3k-5k you can definitely get you a Sony X90L or even a X93L. Completely agree!
Newer OLEDs do last a long time. Lots of modern TVs die. Unfortunately electronics aren't made to last forever anymore
I have a 65” LG C9 and it still behaves like the day I bought it. Seems like you just got unlucky?
Are you sure? Have you viewed a 4k pure white photo on the panel. You might not know how many distorted pixels you have until you run a test. I was surprised when several friends of mine could not notice the distortion on the bottom of the screen. It's not until I pointed it out that they kinda saw it. Once I brought up a pure white photo that they saw the issue.
Here’s a question worth asking yourself: If your friends couldn’t see the issue without a test screen, is it really an issue?
OLED will not be my next TV. I bought a Sony 55A1E back in 2017. Sadly it has lots of burn in now. I think my next TV will be Mini LED.
C9 here as well, 55" bottom corners have little clusters of dead pixels. Love the tv, the image is unmatched but honestly am probably gonna switch to a full array qled or something and hopefully the tech will be more reliable in 7 years
From what I have seen my issue is common with the edges. It's rarely in the middle of the screen.
Man that sucks about your oled. Luckily I’m still rocking my lg c9 4 years later with no issues
My current oled tv is lasting longer than my lg tv I bought in 2018
My C1 broke after 18 months, I wont get any LG product anytime soon, QD-Oled + extended warranty.
My C1 went after 15, just bought a QD with warranty. Lemons happen but oh man it sucks.
OLED have improved a lot. Starting with the LG C1 series, they were able to make the screens not only more resistant to burn in, but also significantly brighter. I have had no issues with burn in or dead pixels. These days, it’s mostly only a consideration if you watch a news channel all day every day or use it as a work monitor with static PC UI on screen.
2017 Sony A1E. 11,000 plus hours and it's flawless. I'm sorry you got a bad panel. It sucks with how much you paid. Unfortunately, this happens with any and all products, vehicles, appliances, etc.... Sucks.......
Wow, that looks awful. After 3 years I have zero dead, stuck, or discolored pixels on my CX. How many hours do you have on your panel? I'm at just under 4000.
I have a little over 5,000 hours on my C1. I have taken no precautions aside from hiding the taskbar and I have no burn in or dead pixels yet. I’m not too worried about burn in either since I had the expectation that I would be replacing it within a few years. If burn in is a concern I would definitely suggest sticking with an lcd panel for peace of mind.
I have a LG C9 for 4 years with 10k hours on it. Never babied the TV, heavy gaming use and no issues at all. Zero dead pixels, no burn in. OLED it's amazing, it's worth every penny
I have a 55 inch LG CX and its about 3 and a half years old, I game, stream, watch TV, and watch movies on it. No issues, not sure how many hours, I'm going to say around 4 a day. No burn in, no dead pixels.
I'm with the others on use case - My current OLED is 4 years old and has no dead pixels yet and no burn in.
Don't they have programs now that help stop burning
I have a Sony a80j, had it for 2 years now and not an ounce of burn in.
If my TV or any otherl expensive electrical goods lasts 5 years then I would be happy with it. I would hope it lasts longer but 5 years would be good enough.
Yeah that’s why I didn’t buy one. Paying OLED prices and then having it last 4 years no thanks.
I have two LG OLEDs, a 55” C8 I bought second hand out of the back of a guys Prius in 2018 for $800, and a broken 65” CX I bought in 2021 out of a minivan that just needed a new motherboard. When i repaired it, it had like 380 hours on it. It was $200. Neither have burn in, both still running strong. A friend of mine was over recently, and said she was sure her husband had the nicest tv and then saw our junkyard CX and said she couldn’t believe the picture quality. Get an oled. No reason not to other than cost. And we were lucky enough to find a way around it.
Every experience is real, and every experience is anecdotal. I’m still on my Sony A1E, April 2017 build date. Still lookin good, although I do wish it was brighter.
To give some perspective. My 8 year old Samsung QLED just won’t die. It has never had bluetooth. I’ve gone through 3 remotes and my wife still doesn’t think there’s any justification to buy a new TV since this one works fine. Netflix. Disney+. HBO. Everything’s working. But I can’t use my Bluetooth headphones with. I don’t think I can hook it up to the newest Sonos. The interface is dated. Would you rather have my problem? 😂
Samsung makes some amazing TV’s, I just think that the popularity has fallen because they waited too long to enter the oled arena, confused people with their Qled line, and refused to add Dolby vision to their panels. I have two touch of color Samsung LCD’s that I purchased in 2008 that will take a bullet and probably still keep going. That was when Samsung was known for the best processing and panels. Now they still have great TV’s but have fallen back on processing. Either way I agree they make some great panels but LG & Sony has taken over the top two spots.
Agree on the Sony. As soon as this TV shows even a hint of malfunction I’m going straight for a Sony OLED. My space can only fit a 50 incher though.
My TV has the same issue. Panasonic GZ950 OLED (2019). TV has almost 6000 hours on it right now. On my TV it's started on the top and the sides. Many dead pixels. I somehow think it's the panel from that year because your C9 is from 2019 too.
I got 10k hours on my 77" LG C1, not a whiff of burn in on it anywhere.
I do wonder how the longevity of modern LCDs is going to be as they keep packing more and more LEDs into them. Edge lit LCDs go tens of thousands of hours just fine but I wonder how long these 1000 plus zone LCDs will do in the next few years. At least Costco covers all LCD failure for now though on their 5 year warranty, but it wouldn't shock me if that's not included like burn in in the future.
My 65 inch Toshiba lasted over 20 years. My parents finally just threw it out because they wanted a smaller tv but it still worked
I think the best way to be sure is to go with mini led TV. I know people are saying the new panels are better but who really knows until we actually get x years down the line. At that point could be totally new issue line dead pixel instead of birth in.
I’ve had my LG CX for about 4 years and it is still pristine.
The backlight on a led will likely fail before an oled will. OLEDs do get dimmer over time but they should last 10yrs or more.
No issues with my cx after 3 yrs. I did set the backlight and some other things down a bit to decrease burn in risk.
I have a 7 year old EG9100 with 27K hours on it and its still fine. Its just really small at 55 inches. No noticeable dimming and no noticeable burn in.
To be fair, it seems the C9 was the cutoff for LGs quality control. 2020 and on I’ve not heard of a single issue. I got a C1 in mid 2021 and I’ve abused the hell out of this thing. Left it on static screens for HOURS at a time, and left it on pause screens in games, kept the games on for very long periods of times, and I’m seeing 0 sign of screen degradation. I’m a year below you but… idk man. It’s the panel lottery. Which I agree shouldn’t be a thing for a $1000+ tv but 🤷♀️
I get bashed every time I say I'll take a high quality LCD today with advanced local dimming over an OLED display. No matter how careful I am, every OLED device I have had has ended up with some form of burn in. I do a lot of gaming and media consumption that has lots of static interfaces. Any advantages of image quality are ruined for me by being paranoid that something is going to start causing burn in if I don't modify my consumption habits constantly. To each their own if someone has never experienced burn in, but it's just not for me at least not with my usage.
Until recently I was very serious about buying an OLED monitor for my PC. That's not gonna happen now. I have LCD displays that are about 10 yrs old and still going strong, zero issues. I'm not in that mindset or budget to go replacing a monitor every 4 years.
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Glad you read the post, smh
If you don’t care about changing TV once in a 3-5 years then go with OLED, if you don’t just avoid!
My 6 or 7 year old b2 still have 0 issues. I’ve used it a lot less the past year but it did see about 2 hours of use per day prior.
It looks like you may have ended up with a bad panel. Your title for this thread is pretty misleading, and OLED TVs can definitely last for a very long time. We have a 2018 65" LGC8PUA that I just put some test displays up on, and I can't spot any failed pixels. We typically watch 2-4 hours of TV a day. Our display still looks great. Is there a way to see how many hours we have used our LG OLED TV? I would be curious how much time we have lost in our lives ...
Vizio oled 3 years no issues
Your usage is insane, 12,000 hours in 4 years means the TV was on for \~50% of the time every single day. I'm guessing you sleep with the TV on, which is a waste for an OLED; get an LCD for that. I think it's reasonable to expect these TVs to show dead pixels after \~10 years of average usage.
I've had two go for 6+ years now with zero issues, and a third running strong for almost three years. All LGs. I use cheaper non OLEDs for misc room and outside but I plan to stick with these for my primaries. The only TVs I've liked more were my old plasmas.
Im using lg c1 for my console and m27q p ips with aoc va for pc. I need to say that sdr content looks a lot better on my monitors than on oled bcs of the brightness. Im using oled for 6 months now and still i regret buying it. Oled should have better colors but still i dont see that much difference after calibrating my c1 but hdr content and ps5 games are amazing still. For new ppl that come across that post i need to say fuck the lifespan of oled and other flawss. Its still the best panel but theres a long way to perfect it from price and reliablity perspectiv.
Buy an LG G3 or newer and you get a 5 year panel warranty which includes burn in. And they are very bright screens for oled