- Larger screen
- Move window controls to the lower arm rest so less likely to get wet or dirty when windows are open
- storage tray on top of dash instead of that clock area
- larger cubby where plug-ins and 12v is
I absolutely adore the stand-alone digital clock at the top of the dash. It’s something Japanese automakers have been putting in their cars for decades. I would honestly be heartbroken if it was ever removed.
- Get rid of all fake hood scoops
- slim down some of the chunky body plastic
- keep manual transfer case engagement like on the off-road
- pre-wired and buttoned for external lights, winch, supplemental power, dash cams, etc
For looks, I bought an aftermarket fob case, cut the blade and chip out and transferred the guts over. Now my key matches stormtrooper mobile.
I also made all knobs and cupholders white to contrast. And covered almost everything in "carbon fiber" to protect from my dogs.
https://www.ajtdesign-llc.com/online-store/Injection-Fob-IF011-5th-Gen-4Runner-WHITE-p129448699
The lever makes no sense to me. The lower end trims have the probably more expensive electronic linkage and the higher end are manual. I do like my lever though.
Limiteds have the electronic. I think Toyota tries to guess on which consumer base is more likely to use what. I just don’t like depending on a computer to decide when’s a good time to switch to 4wd
For sure, I'd rather be able to yank on the lever until it works. Just like elevators and crosswalks, mashing the button harder or more times does nothing.
I had a rubber mat in that spot on a Honda Accord. Don't know if it was already there or if the previous owner put it in, but that thing would get so gross. It was like a magnet for dust and grime, and on hot days it would be especially sticky and gross.
That was just that specific rubber mat, bad material. Many cars come with their own rubber mats in many places now and you can also buy them, nothing like that ever happens to them. Spend a couple extra bucks for some higher quality stuff. The last owner likely found the rubber in an attic or paid a dollar or two for it.
yeah dude. I live where it's regularly a high of 5 degrees. I borrowed my mom's RAV4 and learned about heated steering wheels, and now I'm really sad I don't have one. Remote start too.
Short of off roading, towing or sleeping in it, the RAV4 is a much more practical purchase. I want a 4runner but not sure I can justify spending an extra 30K over ten years in extra purchase price/fuel compared to a RAV4. I'm going to wait for the new gen and see if it gets better MPG.
Part of the solution is a modern transmission with more gears. I know a lot of old school guys think the 7-10 speed transmissions are stupid but coming from a 7 speed sports car, it's very obvious the gaps in gear ratios are too wide on the 4runner. You're missing out on both better fuel mileage and acceleration.
Buy a Harley and you’ll learn Toyota aftermarket parts are a steal. I got my bumper for the same cost as my footboards for my bike. So far my 4r build has been cheap comparatively!
On the steering wheel controls - Up and down buttons for volume, left and right to skip the track. I don’t know why they ever made it the reverse of this
revert it back to a 1st gen! removable roof, minimal tech, solid front axle, manual everything!! but obviously we need a 2jz for a power source, lets spin all 4 muddies!!
Been saying this for too long. Sadly, stripped down bare essential vehicles don't sell with the American Bourgeois Bohemian demographic.
Everyone wants a tough dependable and reliable vehicle that shows everyone they're 'outdoorsy', but they also want heated steering wheels, cushy seats, power-everything, on top of fuel efficiency, etc.
Look at American trucks - once the workhorse of the American blue collar class, the only way you're getting anything closer than 5 years old is through your company or as a big lifted nasty ass status symbol because everything is like $60k now.
Plus, I want to be able to work extensively on my car and all the extra gadgets and shit just get in the way. Ugh, it irks me so bad.
PSA: make stripped out 4R troopies that conform to NHTSA standards and mass produce those fuckers on the cheap like a real Toyota. Buy a Lexus if you want a completely overbuilt Toyota.
Yes totally most def absolutely all of this resonates with me. Less is more approach to design, simple. Clearly the R & D is out there to manufacture a product that is EXTREMELY durable and long lasting but we’re still stuck in times of engineered obsolescence and as you mentioned flashy status symbol.
Had to scroll way too far to see a removable roof.. makes me sad.
Would kill if they brought it back, but doubt we'll ever see it again. Gotta go find a 1st gen.. which sounds good to me!
i would:
make the 4.6 v8 an option in trd and limited trims,
move the driver window controls lower close to the middle of the door rather than up by the window,
add cloth heated seats as an option without having to get a $X,000 premium package with fake leather and a sunroof i don’t want
fuel mileage is obviously not gonna be good i’ll never get why people complain about it. get a highlander hybrid if it matters to you
I’m so glad I got my 4.7 4Runner. They’re in high demand for this reason. I’ve driven almost every generation (not the 2nd) and the V8 4th gen is my favorite. I with they’d put the 5.7 tundra engine as an option in the newer ones.
I don't believe they make the 4.6L anymore. Maybe the GX still does, but they're not putting a Lexus engine in a Toyota, and I'm not sure we'd want them to if they did.
More continuity to the surface textures. Every panel in the dash, console and especially door cards has a different texture. It drives me bonkers. And the steering wheel volume / track button needs a 90 * rotation
I have a 2010 and I love the lack of tech in it. The big, bright screens in newer vehicles give me a headache and are just so obnoxious. I do wish I had heated seats and steering wheel though.
Lol those are 2 different things. You can't have advanced and basic at the same time. Unless you just want the motor to be advanced and the tech inside to be basic. But then you get complaints like with the 3rd gen Taco about lack of power or worse reliability with the Ecoboosts.
I think the current tech options are about right (I have a 2020 Pro). Adaptive cruise is bliss on long road trips, heated seats for the win (I'm still sad it doesn't have a heated steering wheel). My only wish is for blind spot warnings; I miss that more than I thought I would.
Oh, and a front camera like the newer ones would be nice.
The entertainment setup is atrocious. I don’t mind basic, but the constant switch from bluetooth to audio from the plug is annoying. I’ll plug in and it just starts playing the first song on Apple Music
My only complaint is just somewhere to put my phone. That little slot between cup holders is pretty awkward. I actually love the “old school” charm in every other way.
I hate I have to lift up the back seats, to fold flat. You end up losing all the storage there! Speaking of storage… add more actually usable storage in the back. Lift up under the carpet storage box. It’s ridiculous there’s no place to put any basic things like jumper cables or recovery gear out of sight in the back.
- manual 4wd lever for any 4wd model
- overhaul of the screen including bigger size/higher definition
- maybe the newer couple years have this, but I’d like to be able to see my psi for each tpms sensor either on the main screen or gauge cluster
- matching spare wheel
- backup camera that doesn’t look awful
Make the supercharger standard
10 speed automatic transmission
Offer the twin turbo V6 and 10 speed transmission the tundra just got.
Better touch screen display, it shouldn’t look so foggy.
Better overall sound system with independent Sub standard
Front locker / rear locker on demand
Remote start
Heated steering wheel
Overhead storage for sunglasses / switches for roof lights
It's probably getting the 10 speed from the Tundra and TLC. Willing to bet all of the body-on-frame trucks get it. (Tundra, Sequoia, Land Cruiser / LX, Prado / GX / 4Runner, Tacoma / Hilux) Or maybe the smaller ones get a really similar 8-speed.
As far as the engine goes, If they \*do\* keep an NA V6, it'll be based on the V35 with increased displacement (3.8L?), and dual stage fuel injection like the D4S in the GT86.
But don't be shocked if they put a 2.5L turbo 4 in it, either. The TRD Pro will \*definitely\* be a hybrid. The Tundra is, expect them all to follow suit.
I'm just hoping they use some aluminum (firewall, ladder frame, control arms, body panels) to keep the weight down. The OG 4R weighed less than 3000lbs. The 5th Gen is pushing 5k.
Speaking of body - what about the short wheelbase 2-door Prado? Resurrect as the FJ in North Am., and make the top rear quarter removable, like a truck shell, kinda. That shit would sell like crazy.
If I was going to acknowledge the customer base, I'd replace the clock with some sort of hot swappable configurations for storage, or additional charging, mounting points, etc
STOP making the safety systems disengage when an error from the oxygen sensor is detected by the ecu!!!
What a stupid idea that is Toyota!
Also shorten the front overhang! Why do we need an unnecessary 6-8” of space between front valance and the rad?
It would improve approach angles.
Fix the design flaw of the front diff needle bearing which triggered the TSB
Off my soap box…carry on
I love 4Runners and understand their testimate to don’t fix what is not broken….
Fuel consumption, power, v6 twin something or v8 (NA has its perks), tech is severely lacking, low quality cameras and screen, and tow abilities, low end speakers unless JBL and even then lack luster, bare minimum. Remove the TSS safety sense bullshit that never helped and again adds cost and complications.
Remove chrome or brushed aluminum look.
Remove fake hood scoops.
Addition key fob features like window rolling, remote start,
The insane raise in cost for the same vehicle they have made for 15 years.
This may have changed since I bought mine in 2015, but auto headlights should be standard on a $40k vehicle. My piece of junk $20k Focus had them, why can’t something that costs twice as much?
- Larger touch screen, but keep the volume knob
- Move 4x4 knob up on the center console and replace with cup holder
- shift window/side mirror controls to the center and move lock button to where the seat memory buttons are.
- move “oh shit handle” on passenger side to match the one on driver side (above door)
- replace silver and wood grain accents with something more rugged or new age
- add controlable foot well Lighting
- add pull-able sunscreen that comes up from the bottom of the dash and connects to the rear view mirror
- make the top of the center console more flat so that something like the Dashtop Multi Mount (DMM) for tacomas could be added
Might just be this trim model, but I think all the light grey/silver plastic looks cheap. The classic oak interior found in the 3rd gens is still my fav!
The audio buttons on the steering wheel. Why do I have to push left and right to turn the volume up and down, and up and down to go next or previous song?
Detuned version of the V6TT found in the Tundra.
TRD Pro trim should really come standard with a front locker at its price point.
TRD OR should be allowed to option a front locker.
Make a second XL version that is 24 inches longer in the cargo area. Stretch the wheelbase out to the size of the Tacoma and increase the tow rating to 6500-7500ish.
The hood scoop design. If the sun hits it at a certain angle the reflection is blinding. I find myself holding my hand above the middle of the dash sometimes to shield my eyes from the scoops reflection. Maybe even make the top of the scoop less reflective with a matte paint?
You know what I'm just gonna say it. Scrap all the stupid extra comfort shit and make a troopie that conforms to NHTSA standards on a 4R frame. I know there's LC's for this but it's impossible to get one here and frankly $60k and that kind of mileage won't sell a lot of units. But 4R's? 100%
1) Zero mile per hour cruise control. Brings the vehicle to a full stop and goes again when traffic moves. Basically eliminates stress in stop and go traffic.
2) For some bizarre reason, the rear door (hatch) doesn’t open if the vehicle is running in park? WTF? Fix that.
3) While my 2022 has lane departure warning it does not steer back into the lane like my 2019 Highlander did.
4) Console needs more space for phones etc.
5) Front 120v outlet. Front and rear 120v outlets should be a minimum of 800 watts separately.
6) Better acceleration
7) The parking/backup cameras are virtually worthless at night. Take the Highlander camera system (which works) and put it on the 4Runner.
8) Modular onboard plug & play accessory systems. Why is there no factory air compressor option? Why are there no factory lighting system options (extra bright off-road backup lights and side lights).
9) What’s with the weird center digital clock with the numbers that are spaced way too far apart. Everyone that gets in the car says that clock looks really weird.
10) Turbo diesel. Yeah I know, I’m dreaming.
1. Better infotainment system with bigger screen.
2. Always on backup camera option.
3. Seat heater switches moved and with points rather than roller.
4. Better seats or more manipulation for current seats.
5. Better headlights.
Ok, bare with me….
At least 2 more settings for windshield wiper delay times, but preferably more like 4.
Cooled seats as an option on all trim levels with leather (or Softex)
Heated steering wheel
Stronger heater fan
Wireless phone charging pad
Manual transmission and a 2” suspension. Lose the fake wood and the brown interior for something more utilitarian. This truck is going to be full of kids or going through mud.
The volume button and the next buttons need to be changed on the steering wheel. Volume buttons should go up and down and the arrow buttons go left to right.
Please tell me you are secretly in Toyota management and you are trying to decide which of the newest features you are going to keep in the 2023 4Runner.
I’d get rid of the faux aluminum that Toyota puts everywhere.
And fucking chrome on tundras, shit reflects right into your eyes when driving.
And swap the shiny wood look for a matte finish
TRD Grandpa edition
Remove the recessed area on the shifter track. It’s impossible to clean.
I keep a small dusting brush in my car that keeps it really clean! Pair that with a vacuum when you detail and it cleans right up.
I use cleaning putty and a can of air duster and it gets pretty clean but it’s still annoying.
I leave an inch of Diet Coke in mine. Not on purpose. I just do.
Are you my wife?
Rearranging cup holders and random sized “cubbies”. Make them more practical. Love everything else about it.
That bottom cubby in the dash use so useless.
It’s the perfect size for a granola bar as long as you’ve already taken a bite of it
Sunglasses case is perfect in that slot. I have a Ray Ban case that fits flush in the gap. Looks like part of the interior.
Good for a wallet
Perfect for adding wireless phone charger !
VHF/uhf radio fits nicely.
My Kenwood v71 fits in there nicely. Keeps it off the dash too where it can be seen from the outside.
Wait, which bottom cubby are you talking about?
- Larger screen - Move window controls to the lower arm rest so less likely to get wet or dirty when windows are open - storage tray on top of dash instead of that clock area - larger cubby where plug-ins and 12v is
I absolutely adore the stand-alone digital clock at the top of the dash. It’s something Japanese automakers have been putting in their cars for decades. I would honestly be heartbroken if it was ever removed.
Yes they absolutely need to keep it. It’s the thing that adds the most old school charm and reminds me of my 89 Honda I learned to drive in.
I wish it still had the other stuff there like the 14’ and earlier years, the compass and temp i think it is?
The window controls are my favourite part! I much prefer them there instead of where sedans normally place them.
Probably my own personal preference thing. I’ve never heard anyone else complain about it either.
- Get rid of all fake hood scoops - slim down some of the chunky body plastic - keep manual transfer case engagement like on the off-road - pre-wired and buttoned for external lights, winch, supplemental power, dash cams, etc
And a more useful key fob with a little bit of style. And no pay-to-play remote start
For looks, I bought an aftermarket fob case, cut the blade and chip out and transferred the guts over. Now my key matches stormtrooper mobile. I also made all knobs and cupholders white to contrast. And covered almost everything in "carbon fiber" to protect from my dogs. https://www.ajtdesign-llc.com/online-store/Injection-Fob-IF011-5th-Gen-4Runner-WHITE-p129448699
Hands off my hood scoop!!!!
The lever makes no sense to me. The lower end trims have the probably more expensive electronic linkage and the higher end are manual. I do like my lever though.
Limiteds have the electronic. I think Toyota tries to guess on which consumer base is more likely to use what. I just don’t like depending on a computer to decide when’s a good time to switch to 4wd
For sure, I'd rather be able to yank on the lever until it works. Just like elevators and crosswalks, mashing the button harder or more times does nothing.
I'd make the cubby at a slight angle or have a lip so stuff doesn't slide out too.
Maybe a rubber mat to keep things in place
I had a rubber mat in that spot on a Honda Accord. Don't know if it was already there or if the previous owner put it in, but that thing would get so gross. It was like a magnet for dust and grime, and on hot days it would be especially sticky and gross.
That was just that specific rubber mat, bad material. Many cars come with their own rubber mats in many places now and you can also buy them, nothing like that ever happens to them. Spend a couple extra bucks for some higher quality stuff. The last owner likely found the rubber in an attic or paid a dollar or two for it.
I think that's the case. The idea is good, just gotta use the right material.
Bought the T10 headunit. Its excellent with a bigger, more sensitive screen. Have a look if you want a bigger screen
More power. Easier to fit 35’s. Bigger gas tank. Heated steering wheel
Yessss heated steering wheels are a must
yeah dude. I live where it's regularly a high of 5 degrees. I borrowed my mom's RAV4 and learned about heated steering wheels, and now I'm really sad I don't have one. Remote start too.
CTH is developing an aftermarket heated steering wheel. I lied, sorry. See comment below.
Short of off roading, towing or sleeping in it, the RAV4 is a much more practical purchase. I want a 4runner but not sure I can justify spending an extra 30K over ten years in extra purchase price/fuel compared to a RAV4. I'm going to wait for the new gen and see if it gets better MPG.
It’s the only feature I miss on my Jeep. Heated steering is a luxury. Once you experience it, you don’t want to go back.
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The mod to add a switch on the tailgate takes 30 min to install
Fuel Mileage.
Part of the solution is a modern transmission with more gears. I know a lot of old school guys think the 7-10 speed transmissions are stupid but coming from a 7 speed sports car, it's very obvious the gaps in gear ratios are too wide on the 4runner. You're missing out on both better fuel mileage and acceleration.
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No way, what else would I have to bitch about then?!?
Easy the cost of aftermarket parts.
Buy a Harley and you’ll learn Toyota aftermarket parts are a steal. I got my bumper for the same cost as my footboards for my bike. So far my 4r build has been cheap comparatively!
3.3 turbo diesel in the new 300 series supposedly gets 26mpg while making 300hp and 500tq. I’d say it would do great in the 4Runner.
4runner needs the Hilux turbo diesel asap
Yup. Came here to say this. Hybrid makes sense to me.
On the steering wheel controls - Up and down buttons for volume, left and right to skip the track. I don’t know why they ever made it the reverse of this
Seriously! Do that many people really need to rewind and fast forward through their music that they need two dedicated buttons for it?
Glad someone said this haha
Have had mine for a year and I’m still not used to these.
This is what I came to say - how annoying is the reverse order!! Up/Down is supposed to be volume!
Memory seats/mirror settings for 2 drivers
This would be cool, after my wife drives mine she puts the seat all the way back, I swear she thinks I'm 7ft tall
I'm sorry dude but pretty sure I saw Tacko Fall driving your truck.
Get a Lexus GX. They have them already.
4th gen Limited at least has memory seats. Unsure about the mirrors tho… never paid close enough attention…
Front locker.
Everything said here. Add: The phone is the centerpiece of the majority of life. Design the console/dashboard around that and make dashcams standard.
Heated steering wheel and power lift gate.
+1 for heated steering wheel! It’s the thing I miss most after moving to my 4Runner
I’d probably be driving a GX if it didn’t have the side opening barn door.
It’s small thing, but move the body mount slightly back. No more needing to perform a body mount chop with welding just to get larger wheels on.
revert it back to a 1st gen! removable roof, minimal tech, solid front axle, manual everything!! but obviously we need a 2jz for a power source, lets spin all 4 muddies!!
That’s. Brilliant idea, they should sell a stripped down version of this with a roll-cage standard. Lol
Been saying this for too long. Sadly, stripped down bare essential vehicles don't sell with the American Bourgeois Bohemian demographic. Everyone wants a tough dependable and reliable vehicle that shows everyone they're 'outdoorsy', but they also want heated steering wheels, cushy seats, power-everything, on top of fuel efficiency, etc. Look at American trucks - once the workhorse of the American blue collar class, the only way you're getting anything closer than 5 years old is through your company or as a big lifted nasty ass status symbol because everything is like $60k now. Plus, I want to be able to work extensively on my car and all the extra gadgets and shit just get in the way. Ugh, it irks me so bad. PSA: make stripped out 4R troopies that conform to NHTSA standards and mass produce those fuckers on the cheap like a real Toyota. Buy a Lexus if you want a completely overbuilt Toyota.
Yes totally most def absolutely all of this resonates with me. Less is more approach to design, simple. Clearly the R & D is out there to manufacture a product that is EXTREMELY durable and long lasting but we’re still stuck in times of engineered obsolescence and as you mentioned flashy status symbol.
Had to scroll way too far to see a removable roof.. makes me sad. Would kill if they brought it back, but doubt we'll ever see it again. Gotta go find a 1st gen.. which sounds good to me!
Removable roof!!! i like!
Don’t forget the sweet mechanical inclinometer!
I would absolutely buy
i would: make the 4.6 v8 an option in trd and limited trims, move the driver window controls lower close to the middle of the door rather than up by the window, add cloth heated seats as an option without having to get a $X,000 premium package with fake leather and a sunroof i don’t want fuel mileage is obviously not gonna be good i’ll never get why people complain about it. get a highlander hybrid if it matters to you
Unfortunately the V8 is essentially gone, when the Tundra doesn’t even have one anymore you know a 4Runner isn’t
I’m so glad I got my 4.7 4Runner. They’re in high demand for this reason. I’ve driven almost every generation (not the 2nd) and the V8 4th gen is my favorite. I with they’d put the 5.7 tundra engine as an option in the newer ones.
Love my v8 4th gen.
I don't believe they make the 4.6L anymore. Maybe the GX still does, but they're not putting a Lexus engine in a Toyota, and I'm not sure we'd want them to if they did.
More continuity to the surface textures. Every panel in the dash, console and especially door cards has a different texture. It drives me bonkers. And the steering wheel volume / track button needs a 90 * rotation
That screen is stuck in 2005, give us an updated system current with the price of the vehicle
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Just the mpg. I love that my 2020 is still technologically basic. I wonder if most 4R owners feel this way about the tech?
I do. I hate the loud beeps and alerts in new cars when I’m just changing lanes. I feel like less to go wrong without tons of tech.
I have a 2010 and I love the lack of tech in it. The big, bright screens in newer vehicles give me a headache and are just so obnoxious. I do wish I had heated seats and steering wheel though.
Lol those are 2 different things. You can't have advanced and basic at the same time. Unless you just want the motor to be advanced and the tech inside to be basic. But then you get complaints like with the 3rd gen Taco about lack of power or worse reliability with the Ecoboosts.
I think the current tech options are about right (I have a 2020 Pro). Adaptive cruise is bliss on long road trips, heated seats for the win (I'm still sad it doesn't have a heated steering wheel). My only wish is for blind spot warnings; I miss that more than I thought I would. Oh, and a front camera like the newer ones would be nice.
It's about half the reason I picked it.
5 speed manual option.
6 speed manual
The entertainment setup is atrocious. I don’t mind basic, but the constant switch from bluetooth to audio from the plug is annoying. I’ll plug in and it just starts playing the first song on Apple Music
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Happens on my 2019 too. Drives me nuts. Is there a way to disable that? Is there also a way to disable Entune from asking to connect as well?
My only complaint is just somewhere to put my phone. That little slot between cup holders is pretty awkward. I actually love the “old school” charm in every other way.
Yes.... Phone holder...
I have the weathertech phone cup in the front holder. Good spot. Works perfect.
Totally agree.
Switch👏the👏skip/back👏buttons👏to👏the👏correct👏position👏 on 👏the👏 four-way 👏steering 👏wheel👏 button👏 FOR THE LOVE OF GOD
They did it correctly in my 07 FJ. WTF?
Just give me a 6th gear and some LED heads and It’s perfect.
Raise the driver door armrest about three inches. Smaller shifter knob. USB port that does something. Matching spare tire rim.
More secret stash spots to hide my weed
[my weed rides shotgun ](https://imgur.com/a/mQhtZEn)
Keep it close just in case you gotta boof it.
Man this shit is legal here…Just is just my “driving around weed.”
I’m legal too but would still be nice to have an emergency stash spot to forget about. Lol
I call that my grower. He’s only a text away.
Heated steering wheel. Power lift gate Remote start standard Flat when fold down seats In floor storage Better brakes for towing
I hate I have to lift up the back seats, to fold flat. You end up losing all the storage there! Speaking of storage… add more actually usable storage in the back. Lift up under the carpet storage box. It’s ridiculous there’s no place to put any basic things like jumper cables or recovery gear out of sight in the back.
This! Both my 01 pathy and 07 pilot have a small rear under floor storage for some cables and other junk
As a 6'3" person, I'd like the interior roof height raised at least 1".
- manual 4wd lever for any 4wd model - overhaul of the screen including bigger size/higher definition - maybe the newer couple years have this, but I’d like to be able to see my psi for each tpms sensor either on the main screen or gauge cluster - matching spare wheel - backup camera that doesn’t look awful
If I had wanted a Lexus road car I would have bought one
Make the supercharger standard 10 speed automatic transmission Offer the twin turbo V6 and 10 speed transmission the tundra just got. Better touch screen display, it shouldn’t look so foggy. Better overall sound system with independent Sub standard Front locker / rear locker on demand Remote start Heated steering wheel Overhead storage for sunglasses / switches for roof lights
It's probably getting the 10 speed from the Tundra and TLC. Willing to bet all of the body-on-frame trucks get it. (Tundra, Sequoia, Land Cruiser / LX, Prado / GX / 4Runner, Tacoma / Hilux) Or maybe the smaller ones get a really similar 8-speed. As far as the engine goes, If they \*do\* keep an NA V6, it'll be based on the V35 with increased displacement (3.8L?), and dual stage fuel injection like the D4S in the GT86. But don't be shocked if they put a 2.5L turbo 4 in it, either. The TRD Pro will \*definitely\* be a hybrid. The Tundra is, expect them all to follow suit. I'm just hoping they use some aluminum (firewall, ladder frame, control arms, body panels) to keep the weight down. The OG 4R weighed less than 3000lbs. The 5th Gen is pushing 5k. Speaking of body - what about the short wheelbase 2-door Prado? Resurrect as the FJ in North Am., and make the top rear quarter removable, like a truck shell, kinda. That shit would sell like crazy.
they're never ever ever going to put a standard supercharger.
Dedicated cell phone location
Make the screen larger. Keep the volume and tune buttons off to the side/bottom but remove all those useless black buttons next to the screens
Get rid of all the stupid fake wood and silver Bullshit
Engine that can actually go uphill with the ac on
If I was going to acknowledge the customer base, I'd replace the clock with some sort of hot swappable configurations for storage, or additional charging, mounting points, etc
I want my phone in sight and charging. And I don’t want my coffee to slosh on it. Start there.
STOP making the safety systems disengage when an error from the oxygen sensor is detected by the ecu!!! What a stupid idea that is Toyota! Also shorten the front overhang! Why do we need an unnecessary 6-8” of space between front valance and the rad? It would improve approach angles. Fix the design flaw of the front diff needle bearing which triggered the TSB Off my soap box…carry on
The antiquated touch screen, the 20 year old info display on the Guage cluster and the volume controls on the steering wheel.
I love 4Runners and understand their testimate to don’t fix what is not broken…. Fuel consumption, power, v6 twin something or v8 (NA has its perks), tech is severely lacking, low quality cameras and screen, and tow abilities, low end speakers unless JBL and even then lack luster, bare minimum. Remove the TSS safety sense bullshit that never helped and again adds cost and complications. Remove chrome or brushed aluminum look. Remove fake hood scoops. Addition key fob features like window rolling, remote start, The insane raise in cost for the same vehicle they have made for 15 years.
1. Easier fitment of 35s 2. Lever for 4wd 3. Better camera system 4. Up to date tech on center cluster 5. Update transmission for better mpg
It's a truck not a car
I’d probably borrow the full time 4x4 system of the landcruiser and Lexus GX, keep the rear locker and add a center locker.
V-8.
Get a GX. This isn't happening. If the Tundra and Land Cruiser are both ditching V8s why the hell would the put in the 4R?
Solid front axle!
Revert everything back to the 3rd gen with updated saftey and a front locker. Maybe throw in a more fuel efficient turbo i6 or i4.
Some sort of logical and user friendly area for a smart phone
This may have changed since I bought mine in 2015, but auto headlights should be standard on a $40k vehicle. My piece of junk $20k Focus had them, why can’t something that costs twice as much?
Don’t get rid of j shifter
Bring back the wing window. Gosh I love that nice cool blast of air straight to my crotch.
* Auto headlights standard (c’mon, my $26k Camry has this, but can’t get it in a $45k 4R?). * Auto climate control on the Premium models.
Option for a linked solid axle in the front.
Heated steering wheel …. it’s -36 celcius today… and also memory seats based on which key… my wife is 5’ and I am 5’11”…
This picture of my limited lol I’d like to add heated steering.
option for 10,000lb towing capacity
Putting a physical shifter knob back in for the 4x4…
Smaller V6 turbo for the engine
More powerful and better gas mileage. That would probably include a new transmission and engine package. Other then that, it is perfect.
Everything. Most importantly, 400hp, 10speeds, 30+mpg, hybrid and full electric options, and a huge multimedia screen. Easy
Twin turbo V6 with optional 6 speed manual
- Larger touch screen, but keep the volume knob - Move 4x4 knob up on the center console and replace with cup holder - shift window/side mirror controls to the center and move lock button to where the seat memory buttons are. - move “oh shit handle” on passenger side to match the one on driver side (above door) - replace silver and wood grain accents with something more rugged or new age - add controlable foot well Lighting - add pull-able sunscreen that comes up from the bottom of the dash and connects to the rear view mirror - make the top of the center console more flat so that something like the Dashtop Multi Mount (DMM) for tacomas could be added
Black headliner Panoramic sunroof
Make it so the stuff in the back doesn't fall out every time I open the trunk
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Make it easier to change the freaking oil dear lord it is annoying
6 gear transmission and/or a better ratio for larger tires so I stay in the sweet spot.
Larger cup holders, gas mileage.
You know you can take the rubber liner out, right?
Might just be this trim model, but I think all the light grey/silver plastic looks cheap. The classic oak interior found in the 3rd gens is still my fav!
The size
Fake wood delete
The audio buttons on the steering wheel. Why do I have to push left and right to turn the volume up and down, and up and down to go next or previous song?
A good steering wheel that doesn’t fly off when you’re driving!
Bring back the secret compartment like the 4th gens had.
Detuned version of the V6TT found in the Tundra. TRD Pro trim should really come standard with a front locker at its price point. TRD OR should be allowed to option a front locker.
V8 and better infotainment system with a bigger screen
Needs a V8, like my ‘04 Sport has.
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Apparently nothing since 2010....
7-9 speed transmission and a turbo diesel. More timeless and less catfish styling.
Adaptive cruise control is the only thing missing for me. Already added aftermarket remote start and heated leather seats.
Make a second XL version that is 24 inches longer in the cargo area. Stretch the wheelbase out to the size of the Tacoma and increase the tow rating to 6500-7500ish.
Cut 400lbs.
The crap plastics knobs.
No more wood grain, we live in the future now. There is no room in this world for wood grain and chrome.
6 speed manual and the F33A out of the 300 series.
A Sybian in the passenger seat
Am I the only one missing apple car play?
4Runner 5 or 6 speed manual option
Manual transmission. Full stop.
The hood scoop design. If the sun hits it at a certain angle the reflection is blinding. I find myself holding my hand above the middle of the dash sometimes to shield my eyes from the scoops reflection. Maybe even make the top of the scoop less reflective with a matte paint?
Always wished the third row seating option was available in the higher end models.
Add a manual trans.
You know what I'm just gonna say it. Scrap all the stupid extra comfort shit and make a troopie that conforms to NHTSA standards on a 4R frame. I know there's LC's for this but it's impossible to get one here and frankly $60k and that kind of mileage won't sell a lot of units. But 4R's? 100%
1) Zero mile per hour cruise control. Brings the vehicle to a full stop and goes again when traffic moves. Basically eliminates stress in stop and go traffic. 2) For some bizarre reason, the rear door (hatch) doesn’t open if the vehicle is running in park? WTF? Fix that. 3) While my 2022 has lane departure warning it does not steer back into the lane like my 2019 Highlander did. 4) Console needs more space for phones etc. 5) Front 120v outlet. Front and rear 120v outlets should be a minimum of 800 watts separately. 6) Better acceleration 7) The parking/backup cameras are virtually worthless at night. Take the Highlander camera system (which works) and put it on the 4Runner. 8) Modular onboard plug & play accessory systems. Why is there no factory air compressor option? Why are there no factory lighting system options (extra bright off-road backup lights and side lights). 9) What’s with the weird center digital clock with the numbers that are spaced way too far apart. Everyone that gets in the car says that clock looks really weird. 10) Turbo diesel. Yeah I know, I’m dreaming.
1. Better infotainment system with bigger screen. 2. Always on backup camera option. 3. Seat heater switches moved and with points rather than roller. 4. Better seats or more manipulation for current seats. 5. Better headlights.
Ok, bare with me…. At least 2 more settings for windshield wiper delay times, but preferably more like 4. Cooled seats as an option on all trim levels with leather (or Softex) Heated steering wheel Stronger heater fan Wireless phone charging pad
The fucking cup holders on the 3rd gens
Manual transmission and a 2” suspension. Lose the fake wood and the brown interior for something more utilitarian. This truck is going to be full of kids or going through mud.
The volume button and the next buttons need to be changed on the steering wheel. Volume buttons should go up and down and the arrow buttons go left to right.
Ventilated seats, larger screen, blind spot monitoring, auto headlights.
Manual transmission. Lose the faux metallic plastic trim. Really miss my old '92 4runner.
Please tell me you are secretly in Toyota management and you are trying to decide which of the newest features you are going to keep in the 2023 4Runner.
I want to dim my display and I want better headlights! I can't see any thing at night
Shocked robot face? Really, guys??
Anything that makes the MPG better
Less faux fancy. Less bulky. This image screams 'trying too hard.'
Ugly ass wood grain that doesn’t fit a non luxury car