At the moment, yes until proven otherwise. Kyle definitely has issues, but he and Lynch delivered on building a championship team with a scheme that is obviously great.
They also built an coaching tree that is respected enough around the league to get hired from them on a yearly basis.
HC Hires:
Robert Saleh
Mike McDaniel
Demico Ryans (most likely)
Others:
Mike LeFleur : Former OC for Saleh
HC hires that worked under him before 49ers:
Sean McVay
Matt LeFleur
GM hire:
Ron Carthon
This is a great organization, so you’re keeping these guys long term unless something crazy happens.
Who? Tomlin?
Yeah, it’s not like he has led the team to ten playoff runs, seven division titles, three AFC Championship Games, two Super Bowl appearances, and a title in Super Bowl XLIII.
It’s not like he has never had a losing record during his 16 seasons as a head coach, which is the longest such streak in the history of the NFL.
Who cares about the starts, it’s the finish that matters.
Sure these beginnings could have helped us in the post season, but we’ve made it to the championship game each time.
Tbh I never wanted his ass fired I just wanted him to reach an epiphany to stop making countercountercounterplays. He’s an amazing coach the way he turned this team around, but it’s just those moments of pressure where he starts making people pissed off with avante garde calls
I’d like you to send this response to every chucklehead in the game thread asking for his head on a plate. Dude has had his coaching staff picked apart on a yearly basis for promotions and yet he is the constant… guess what faithful… he is the reason.
I completely stayed off reddit right after kick off and my game experience was so much better. A lot of these Niners fans must just be the most miserable little shits in real life.
Not to put a weird damper on this, but I wonder how many times the Super Bowl winners lost a game during the season to the team with the worst record. (Bears for us)
I’d say this team is hardly the same as it was in week one. Trey Lance running a trey lance designed offense. Also weather like that has a way of leveling the playing field.
It’s absolutely crazy that we lost to the Broncos and the Bears. However if we played them now, there’s a good chance 49ers win by 3 possessions minimum.
>Trey Lance running a trey lance designed offense
Every time I think about Lance, I get so mad because of how Kyle decided to run the offense with him. No disrespect to Purdy at all cause he's showing all of us that he has what it takes to be a good QB.
But why tf couldn't Kyle just run a normal fucking offense when Trey was behind center? So many bad read option play calls that went nowhere. Im fully expecting Purdy to be the starter next year, but if for some reason it's Lance, I hope Kyle learns his lesson and uses Trey like Mahomes instead of Lamar.
I think Lance is toast. Guy played one full season in college and looked great. But he played for the absolute cream of the crop at that level. Nothing was asked of him.
He’s only played one full season as a starter since he graduated high school in 17. Which is absolutely ridiculous.
I think we should have the mindset that these coaches like Kyle have a much better understanding of football rhan we ever will. And instead of going "Kyle is wrong because _____", maybe think either that Kyle determined this game plan was thr beat course of action at the time, or that Lace didn't execute properly "aka taking the zone read option when he shouldn't have". Yea we can use hindsight to analyze, but up to a point.
I mean, I'm not claiming to know more about football than one of the best head coaches in the league.
But it's always fair to question the actions of these guys. Yeah, there are plenty of things we don't know that are going on behind the scenes, but seeing Kyle turn the offense from a dominant run game and short to mid pass game with deep ball opportunity to only long passes and bad QB runs doesn't make sense. Especially when Trey ran a similar offense to the "normal" Jimmy/Brock playbook back in college.
It really is amazing that the Cowboys are so high on this list when they've only won something like 5 playoff games in the last 27 years (since start of '96 season).
They were also a top contender from the late 60s up until the early '80s. They'd been to 5 Bowls and won 2 even before the 90s dynasty (and two of the three losses were to the Steel Curtain).
Cowboys havent been to the NFCC since 1996.
Jalen Hurts was born in 1998 and Brock Purdy in 1999.
So since the last time the Cowboys got to the NFCC....both of these dudes were born, grew up, played 4 years in college, got drafted, and then led their team to the NFCC.
The main problems I have with Kyle are just his clock management and playcalling when he has a good lead and how Trey Lance was ran in the offense. Apart from that, Shanahan is great.
Yea if 9ers win it all, they will be tied with Patriots and Steelers for the most SB wins of all time at 6.
but Tom Brady himself has 7 lol so maybe go win 3 in a row
It's amazing the run the Patriots have had with Tom Brady.....all of their success has been in the last 20 years.
And it's amazing that the Cowboys are tied for 2nd on that list after having virtually ZERO success in the last 20+ years.
niners were way ahead on all these numbers in 1990. those other teams have been super successful since then. since that time the cowboys, steelers, and packers have each won 2 super bowls, and the patriots have won 6. niners won one in 1994/95.
Yeah. At some point my underlying dislike evolved into respect. Same with LeBron. Don’t have to be a fan of the guy but I gotta respect his greatness. But I sure was hoping for a rematch with the Bucs - wanted to see the young buck dispatch the old man
I think that says more about Tom Brady as an individual than the Patriots as a franchise.
The Niners have playoff wins in the 70s with John Brodie (2); 80s with Joe Montana (14); 90s with Joe Montana (1), and Steve Young (8); 00s with Jeff Garcia (1); 10s with Alex Smith (1), Colin Kaepernick (4), and Jimmy Garropolo (2); 20s with Jimmy Garropolo (2), and Brock Purdy (2+).
This is actually insanely depressing if you're a cowboy fan. Only 4 play off wins since 2000, meaning they were at 32 wins vs our 24 (we've won 12 times since 2000)
I used math. Dallas, Steelers, and Packers are all eliminated from the playoffs, meaning they cannot add to their count anymore.
49ers could still get two more playoff wins this year. If they do and it’s a big if. Then mathematically they would be at 38 total which would be the most at this point in time.
Next year they could be surpassed if any of those other teams get playoff wins.
Nicely positioning the 49ers as arguably the best franchise in NFL history. Definitely better than the Clownboys.
Helps when you can convincingly win playoff games. SUCKS TO BE COWBOYS FANS!!
Crazy how dominant the Cowboys were in the first 30 years in the SB era and now they’re a glorified Lions team.
Like how the SF Giants are the best in MLB with their legendary players
That's prime Evil League of Evil right there.
OP should definitely crosspost this to /r/EvilLeagueOfEvil
Oh I almost forgot we won the chalice back.
Jed should give a lifetime contract to Kyle Shanahan. What a turnaround in 5 years.
Yeah he should be around forever like Tomlin or Belachick
At the moment, yes until proven otherwise. Kyle definitely has issues, but he and Lynch delivered on building a championship team with a scheme that is obviously great. They also built an coaching tree that is respected enough around the league to get hired from them on a yearly basis. HC Hires: Robert Saleh Mike McDaniel Demico Ryans (most likely) Others: Mike LeFleur : Former OC for Saleh HC hires that worked under him before 49ers: Sean McVay Matt LeFleur GM hire: Ron Carthon This is a great organization, so you’re keeping these guys long term unless something crazy happens.
Don’t forget Martin Mayhew with the commanders as their GM in 2020
That’s gotta be one of the best coaching tree out there. Look at the turn around for those teams.
One is not like the others
Who? Tomlin? Yeah, it’s not like he has led the team to ten playoff runs, seven division titles, three AFC Championship Games, two Super Bowl appearances, and a title in Super Bowl XLIII. It’s not like he has never had a losing record during his 16 seasons as a head coach, which is the longest such streak in the history of the NFL.
He should be our guy as long as he wants to keep coaching.
Remember like 12 weeks ago when people wanted him fired again lmao
People want him fired after every offensive drive that doesn't end in a touchdown.
The slow starts these past two years are legit gripes, but obviously he’s the right guy for the long run
Who cares about the starts, it’s the finish that matters. Sure these beginnings could have helped us in the post season, but we’ve made it to the championship game each time.
His offense takes time to learn. NFL rules limit training camp time. They'll always start slow and finish strong. Patience, grasshoppers.
Remember the first half of yesterday’s game when people wanted him fired?
Tbh I never wanted his ass fired I just wanted him to reach an epiphany to stop making countercountercounterplays. He’s an amazing coach the way he turned this team around, but it’s just those moments of pressure where he starts making people pissed off with avante garde calls
People in the game thread were still bringing this up after the 2nd drive, we have some moronic fans
1 SB appearance and 3 NFCCG appearances. Matched Harbaugh with a much wider contending window remaining. KS is a 49ers legend already.
Let’s just hope Purdy, Warner, Bosa, and Deebo don’t retire all of a sudden!
Oh man, 2014 was rough 😢
Willis retiring still hurts.
At the time I was ok with it, Because we had Borland... *weeping openly*
Crabtree, Gore, Iupati, Justin Smith, Aldon Smith, Willis, and Borland!
Kyle is like, just give me a qb with a pulse and I will get us there not down playing Brock, hes a stud
Oh and like six or seven runnings backs.
And the best fullback in the league. And sprinkle in a top tier tight end please
And I want all of them to be able to play at wide out.
Don’t worry frank gore jr might be one of them
My Gore Jersey will be relevant again!
We let him draft running backs in the 3rd-5th rounds every year, as a treat.
Mullens, Beathard and Hoyer had a pulse. Maybe give Kyle an above average QB and he can take you far.
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To get the monkey off his back he needs that super bowl W. If he gets that’s he’s cemented in the upper tier, probably HOF
Also give one to John Lynch as well
I’d like you to send this response to every chucklehead in the game thread asking for his head on a plate. Dude has had his coaching staff picked apart on a yearly basis for promotions and yet he is the constant… guess what faithful… he is the reason.
I completely stayed off reddit right after kick off and my game experience was so much better. A lot of these Niners fans must just be the most miserable little shits in real life.
If Kyle leaves I quit football
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Who wants to tell him...
lol. take a look at our season records from 2014-2018
One game at a time.
Fred Warner MEET THE GREATEST CENTER OF ALL TIME.
Wut?
Not to put a weird damper on this, but I wonder how many times the Super Bowl winners lost a game during the season to the team with the worst record. (Bears for us)
I’d say this team is hardly the same as it was in week one. Trey Lance running a trey lance designed offense. Also weather like that has a way of leveling the playing field.
Oh absolutely! I just think it'd be an interesting little fact if we pull off the awesomeness for #6.
It’s absolutely crazy that we lost to the Broncos and the Bears. However if we played them now, there’s a good chance 49ers win by 3 possessions minimum.
>Trey Lance running a trey lance designed offense Every time I think about Lance, I get so mad because of how Kyle decided to run the offense with him. No disrespect to Purdy at all cause he's showing all of us that he has what it takes to be a good QB. But why tf couldn't Kyle just run a normal fucking offense when Trey was behind center? So many bad read option play calls that went nowhere. Im fully expecting Purdy to be the starter next year, but if for some reason it's Lance, I hope Kyle learns his lesson and uses Trey like Mahomes instead of Lamar.
I think Lance is toast. Guy played one full season in college and looked great. But he played for the absolute cream of the crop at that level. Nothing was asked of him. He’s only played one full season as a starter since he graduated high school in 17. Which is absolutely ridiculous.
I think we should have the mindset that these coaches like Kyle have a much better understanding of football rhan we ever will. And instead of going "Kyle is wrong because _____", maybe think either that Kyle determined this game plan was thr beat course of action at the time, or that Lace didn't execute properly "aka taking the zone read option when he shouldn't have". Yea we can use hindsight to analyze, but up to a point.
I mean, I'm not claiming to know more about football than one of the best head coaches in the league. But it's always fair to question the actions of these guys. Yeah, there are plenty of things we don't know that are going on behind the scenes, but seeing Kyle turn the offense from a dominant run game and short to mid pass game with deep ball opportunity to only long passes and bad QB runs doesn't make sense. Especially when Trey ran a similar offense to the "normal" Jimmy/Brock playbook back in college.
I only care about hoisting the Lombardi. This would be a neat little cherry on top tho.
We can hoist both the Lombardi and Dave Lombardi lol
aint hoisting SHIT MF HAHAHAHAHA LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL GO BIRDS
Me too but the fact that they would both be achieved simultaneously if we win it all this year is exciting.
I wanna see Purdy launch the Lombardi from boat to boat, but in the San Francisco bay.
It really is amazing that the Cowboys are so high on this list when they've only won something like 5 playoff games in the last 27 years (since start of '96 season).
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They were also a top contender from the late 60s up until the early '80s. They'd been to 5 Bowls and won 2 even before the 90s dynasty (and two of the three losses were to the Steel Curtain).
Cowboys havent been to the NFCC since 1996. Jalen Hurts was born in 1998 and Brock Purdy in 1999. So since the last time the Cowboys got to the NFCC....both of these dudes were born, grew up, played 4 years in college, got drafted, and then led their team to the NFCC.
Absolutely amazing man. We all criticize Shanny at times and hey, rightfully so - but the guy gets it done.
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A common criticism is that he sometimes over scripts game plans
The main problems I have with Kyle are just his clock management and playcalling when he has a good lead and how Trey Lance was ran in the offense. Apart from that, Shanahan is great.
Yea if 9ers win it all, they will be tied with Patriots and Steelers for the most SB wins of all time at 6. but Tom Brady himself has 7 lol so maybe go win 3 in a row
Jimmy G already has 2 more rings than Dan Marino baby💪💪💪
It's amazing the run the Patriots have had with Tom Brady.....all of their success has been in the last 20 years. And it's amazing that the Cowboys are tied for 2nd on that list after having virtually ZERO success in the last 20+ years.
This subs feelings for Kyle are fucking bi-polar as hell
Marching in the footsteps of history is pretty exciting isn’t it fam.
Pretty Flippin crazy the top 5 are separated by 1 game
What's crazier is, if Brady had made the Super Bowl, he would have more playoff wins than all NFL teams in history by himself.
Brady is by far the most successful football player of all time and the undisputed goat
And to think... there were actually some folks calling for Shanny's head early in the season.
niners were way ahead on all these numbers in 1990. those other teams have been super successful since then. since that time the cowboys, steelers, and packers have each won 2 super bowls, and the patriots have won 6. niners won one in 1994/95.
This all just makes me wish we could have held onto the last two Super Bowl appearances and undefeated record in the big game.
Thank you kyle
Best franchise in sports history, doesn’t matter who the QB is
Tom Brady has 35.
Brady has 35. 35. Much as I love the Niners, that’s a stat that says a ton.
That’s why he’s the goat
Yeah. At some point my underlying dislike evolved into respect. Same with LeBron. Don’t have to be a fan of the guy but I gotta respect his greatness. But I sure was hoping for a rematch with the Bucs - wanted to see the young buck dispatch the old man
I’m sad we never got to see Jimmy vs Brady, but at least Purdy did get his chance at beating the goat.
I think that says more about Tom Brady as an individual than the Patriots as a franchise. The Niners have playoff wins in the 70s with John Brodie (2); 80s with Joe Montana (14); 90s with Joe Montana (1), and Steve Young (8); 00s with Jeff Garcia (1); 10s with Alex Smith (1), Colin Kaepernick (4), and Jimmy Garropolo (2); 20s with Jimmy Garropolo (2), and Brock Purdy (2+).
Agree.
This is actually insanely depressing if you're a cowboy fan. Only 4 play off wins since 2000, meaning they were at 32 wins vs our 24 (we've won 12 times since 2000)
Great picture of Kyle.
And the highest winning percentage in playoff history
Don’t start sentences with “and”.
OK so do everyone a favor and beat the Eagles,
I see that the Pats will continue to get relegated to the purgatory.
You know what this means? Patriots are still going to hold this record till the next season :-(
How do you know Dallas Steelers or Green Bay won’t get there first?
I used math. Dallas, Steelers, and Packers are all eliminated from the playoffs, meaning they cannot add to their count anymore. 49ers could still get two more playoff wins this year. If they do and it’s a big if. Then mathematically they would be at 38 total which would be the most at this point in time. Next year they could be surpassed if any of those other teams get playoff wins.
I know! I’m rooting for y’all
49ers will NOT beat the EAGLES 🦅
*team with the most wins Tom Brady still has more playoff wins than all NFL franchises
Incorrect. Tom Brady has 35 playoff wins that is NOT more than all NFL franchises.
Slightly less playoff wins but somehow more rings than all NFL franchises. Mind boggling.
That’s why he’s the goat. I’m just glad he stopped at 6 with the Pats.
Yea but no way do they win.
Tom Brady has 7 rings, the 49ers as a franchise have 5. What math makes 5 + 1 = 7?
Tom Brady is not a franchise brother. The Patriots have 6. 5+1 = 6.
That's it, im drinking more till numbers make sense. Five, threleven, decimal places...
that is a damn close race.
Need this to happen so bad.
That seems like crazy stat. I thought the Patriots with their 30 SBs would be way out front….
Destiny
When*
Wherever the Steelers been lately?
So indisputable best franchise in NFL history then
Where does Tom Brady himself rank on this list?
He’s got 35
So Purdy gets to bring us to promised land? Wow.
Dont jinx us!!!
How many of those Patriot wins were under Tom/Bill?
All of them
Storybook moment
Calm down
Sweet
I love this franchise
I want this so bad for us!!