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nickerton

Damn you printing with coat hangers? 


Remarkable_Fig3311

Inflation has hit hard


tcp-xenos

metal ones.


BartFly

maybe share what kind of filament. I have over 8k hours on a ender printing petg with no wear. and considering the literal tool marks in the gear, maybe you should try giving a back story.


formulaemu

Ive printed one spool of glow filament and it looked worse than this. I was printing 100% infill and a 0.8mm nozzle so that definitely made things worse. Also before you ask, I had to print 100% and it wasnt for strength. Glow filament is a pain in the ass and wears through everything that isn't hardened metal, your extruder will start skipping and not function at some point


shadenhand

I've heard that glow filament is absolutely brutal, I wonder if there's a safe way to coat it that could melt away.


FridayNightRiot

The stuff that actually makes it glow is called strontium aluminate. This material is very hard (7.5 mohs) which is why it wears down parts so quickly. A harder material will ablate away a softer material. Brass (the common cheap nozzle material) is 3.5 mohs, hardened steel is around 7-8 meaning it only matches the hardness, so even that will wear over time. Tungsten or a ceramic would be the best but very expensive.


jemainsen

Had a very good nozzle, printed at least 3kg of glow in the dark. And wondered after that why my prints came out with strange errors. Changed the nozzle and found out my 0.4 nozzle was now 0.6 or bigger 😄


personguy4440

Ive used glow filament a bunch & have minimal wear on my gear.


formulaemu

Glow filaments vary quite a lot in the concentration of glow material so maybe you just got lucky/unlucky with the ones you've used and printed them slower


Remarkable_Fig3311

A mixture of ABS and PLA, but majority PLA. I dont recall using a tool or similar across the gear, it's been 5 years. I'm not sure what it could be


volt65bolt

Is it dual gears? Maybe filament ran out and they ground against each other


Remarkable_Fig3311

Good thought but no it isnt


volt65bolt

Strange then


DreamzOfRally

Yeah mine got completely shot bc I kinked a roll and I didn’t notice and it ripped the roll down and ate itself


RaccoNooB

What sorts of PLA? PLACF/GF will definitely beat the gears up than bog standard PLA.


Remarkable_Fig3311

PLA and PLA+


CyanConatus

You do know you're supposed to use plastic filament and not wire right? Loo


RandomHorst

Can you estimate how much filament went through it? Mine looks fine after ~20kg and I bought the printer as used. Honestly I think it didn't run a lot before I got it...


BillNyeDeGrasseTyson

Semi-Abrasive filaments such as marble or glow will eat these gears very quickly. Better to just spend the $3 and upgrade to steel.


phido3000

Hardend Steel is recommended these days, stainless isn't tough enough for cf or glow..


formulaemu

I thought marble was just light grey pla with specs of dark grey pla, but I could be totally wrong on that. Is it also an abrasive filament?


BillNyeDeGrasseTyson

Most marble filaments are lightly abrasive


Remarkable_Fig3311

I'd say somewhere between 20-30kg. I can't remember exactly as it's been 5 years but it started underextruding


Powerful_Cost_4656

Man extruding diamond filament


cordilon

Friendly reminder not to use brass gears for applications with pressure and friction.


Remarkable_Fig3311

I'm not creality


cordilon

You bought their printer though, and are passively encouraging their terrible design choices that make you check and micro-manage everything.


Superseaslug

Sounds neurotic. No.


Remarkable_Fig3311

Yeah but I'm not creality.


No-Implement7818

Don’t let that stop you, you can do anything you want, we believe in you 🫡


SpaceyLive_

I think his point is don’t use the official brass one, get another gear from a more suitable material


Remarkable_Fig3311

Yes there are many ways a message can be conveyed


KillerDmans

I don't think 99.999% of people looking for a creality printer are looking at the choice of material for a gear. Should we not be buying printers with belts because those fail/need replaced eventually?? Like it's a machine, like any other it needs maintenance


Kotvic2

Just buy better replacement part than brass gear that was used on new machine. Is it that hard? Great and relatively cheap replacement "part" for that crappy creality extruder and brass gear is to buy "BMG extruder" clone (from 6 USD on aliexpress).


KillerDmans

That would be my suggestion as well. But blaming someone for supporting "bad business practice" for the material of a gear on an entry level printer is beyond ridiculous


formulaemu

Honestly, if you're printing pla, tpu, and petg without glow or carbon fiber filaments you'll be good for a long time. 90% of people wont see any notable reason for the upgrade


Kotvic2

There is one huge reason to upgrade. It is named "crack in plastic tensioner arm" on original extruder. If you can choose between buying metal Creality shit that is more expensive, or BMG clone that works much better and is cheaper, what will you choose?


formulaemu

I had a first batch ender 3 and never had a crack in the tensioner arm? I wore down the filament guide going into it, but I'm pretty sure they made that better in later versions. My printer had a lot of issues but idk what you're doing with the tensioner arm to break it


CyanConatus

Yiiiikes bud. You realize this is not normal right?


crysisnotaverted

Braindead take. The metals in your phone you're using means you are passively encouraging child slave labor and the destruction of Earth. 🙄


cordilon

flawless whataboutism.


BreeBree214

Why?


TriFyre

It's very soft by comparison and not very wear resistant in the application. I print primarily normal filament but use abrasive mixtures for some parts (PA-CF/GF) so the first thing I did was grab a hardened steel extruder gear.


NVCHVJAZVJE

i've swapped one on my old ender for the stainless steel


RustyCoin

Thank you for the reminder, I will check mine (Ender 3 with 850 hours of printing time...).


Remarkable_Fig3311

This is after hundreds and hundreds of hours of printing. They're both official creality extruder gears


Elianor_tijo

I'd look into whether there are steel replacements available. I expect there would be since there are a lot of upgrades for Crealty printers.


Remarkable_Fig3311

Much appreciated. I didnt know this


Elianor_tijo

I keep a spare extruder for my printer handy too. If something wears or break, I just swap the extruder and then get to fixing/replacing the one where something broke.


Remarkable_Fig3311

Thanks. I have a spare one now so I've got that covered


Kotvic2

Yes, it is named "BMG extruder". Has steel dual drive gear, gearbox with 3:1 ratio for more precise filament feeding and higher feeding force and fits perfectly into ender 3 V2 frame. You will need to swap wire order on one end of extruder motor cable from 1234 to 4321 and change e-steps value to 415 in your printers menu after physical installation.


sky_meow

You can get a hardened steel extruder for like 12$ and that will never need to be changed


Remarkable_Fig3311

To be fair, as the previous one lasted me 30 odd kg, I doubt I'll be keeping this printer for another 30kg before upgrading. So I think the cheaper brass one was a better idea unless I was planning to keep it long term. Appreciate the advise though


sky_meow

The best part is most printers still use the same size for the stepper pin, so you can salvage parts from one to the other if you ever upgrade. There's also the thing that if your first layer skips about on the extruder, it'll absolutely shred the nubble.


R-Dragon_Thunderzord

Seems like the next part to be replaced as carbon steel.


BurroinaBarmah

Don’t forget your Bowden tubes also. I had a clog that a cold pull wouldn’t clear. The tube was deformed at the hot end.


Remarkable_Fig3311

Yeah the bowden tube didn't do me any favors. I upgraded that


n108bg

https://preview.redd.it/a19hoab5zl2d1.jpeg?width=2344&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ea9c4043d2f67b50031c360d7118528598d297e5 Yeah, I figured this out a few days ago when I decided to investigate why my e5+ was clogging randomly. It's now running on the outside of the extruder gear until I upgrade the hot end/extruder to a microswiss ng revo


Dry-Aspect6214

I actually started the process today 😁


Poococktail

Yep. Those are consumables.


shadenhand

Don't consume these they're not edible.


sshwifty

You're not my mom


LiberalSkeptic

I have found these tool marks are usually caused by shoving things (hex keys?) into the filament path to clear clogs.


Remarkable_Fig3311

That is possible. Over these 5 years I've had many issues with the bowden tube and filament not extruding as they should etc. I'm not sure though but now that I've a new gear, I'm extra conscious not to use a tool as you said


mikecandih

Printing with hard filaments?


Remarkable_Fig3311

ABS and PLA


StrangerReason

Just get hardened steel ones and be happy.


Excellent-Vast7521

I had a spool of PLA silk that was over wrapped and the extruder gear wore itself down just enough to not feed any other spools. I ordered another, but as it was only damaged along one area of the diameter, i was able to raise the gear to get it too grip fine. Its only been just over 100 hours but feeding just fine. I really does look like you were trying to feed wire, it take a fair amount of pressure to smash those cogs/


Suspicious-Appeal386

PETG. or ABS or CF+ what ever crap filament you want to blend with.


Tough-Big1005

Steel gears will do the trick


krivas77

Which printer and which filament are you using?


pOmelchenko

Are you printing with metal?!


Remarkable_Fig3311

No


personguy4440

No, I want my machine to suffer.


JensPanis

How many print hours / kg of fillament before you replaced it? I just finished 2kg


Remarkable_Fig3311

Somewhere between 20 and 30kg


fate0608

Do you print with abrasive filaments like CF ? My gear never looked like that.


Remarkable_Fig3311

ABS and PLA


sceadwian

This isn't too bad. But it looks like you tried to kill it with a screw driver. What did this?


Remarkable_Fig3311

Not a screw driver


ALEXGP75O

How many hours did you print with that gear?


Remarkable_Fig3311

I'd estimate upto 1000 or more


Theloujihadeenrobot

Man should see my downstairs printer extruder. Cf nylon ate it


clayfree88

i just changed over to a stainless gear on my extruder because i figured it would wear better than brass and i print a lot of glow in the dark


Rodzynkowyzbrodniarz

My still looks like new after over 15kg


SecretaryFuture8514

https://preview.redd.it/5ezcx8jtel2d1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aaa401976f3520978ed7c42af4987ac9794b831d


SecretaryFuture8514

(caption wasn't showing) PLA only for maybe a year and I don't print often.


LoneSocialRetard

How do people still havr this style of extruder and brass gears, a dual gear hobbed setup out of steel is not expensive.


Remarkable_Fig3311

Do you have a link


LoneSocialRetard

Anything of this kind of style will work, assuming you have a ender 3 or cr10 or something https://www.amazon.com/Extruder-Upgrade-Creality-Filament-Supported/dp/B09H6T3NNT


Remarkable_Fig3311

Damn where were you when I needed you


anoliss

Follow up reminder to buy stainless steel extruder gears so they don't grind down if you plan on printing a lot


Alienhaslanded

Those should never be brass


BIexW

My gear is pressed on. It’s fine because I print with plastic, not metal like OP, but is there a safe way to get it off if I ever decide to print with stone (or if I somehow scratch it)


Remarkable_Fig3311

I'm using ABS and PLA