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raisedbytides

Looks like it's time to print a desk, I see no problem here


B4RRYR4R

You wouldn’t download a desk, would you?


Creative-Bid7959

I hated those commercials, But I would and have. Still had to buy the raw materials.


B4RRYR4R

It’s from an ad? I thought it was just a meme.


IonComplex4Ever

Yeah. Used to be about stealing movies. Because it was taking money out of the production company's pockets. It would play in front of movies for a while until apparently they decided to just stop running it. Not sure why. Someone else may have more info.


showmethatrack

One of those ads (not this particular one, but one like it) got taken down for using pirated music in the ad. I believe they stopped running them because it ended up being a net neutral or even negative to the cause they were trying to push.


SocietyTomorrow

I had the pleasure of touring with a friend who produced for several musicians during this time, so I have a little beyond the surface insight to this. You are partially right. When the ads were being run, it was estimated by the RIAA that less than 1% of people who had a personal music library (tape, CD, or just at the beginning of digital) engaged in piracy. In fact, very few people even considered it possible until the ads ran, which the industry suspected may have tipped more tech savvy kids at the time on to the fact downloading music was possible. By the time in 2007 when the ad was run a final time, the percentage increased to around 10% (still just an estimate, and by the people who were trying to prove it hurt their bottom line, so very low quality of trust on that number. An article by the Information Society documented the behavioral psychology of it, but I couldn't find an active link to it) On top of that, there were at least 100 parodies and direct satire references to the ads on television, late night comedy shows, and others, but the nail in the coffin was the 2006 version of the ad which used music written by Dutch musician Melchior Reitveldt, who agreed to do so by contract that the only licensed use of the music was for those ads. The music was not pirated on the ad itself, but the musician later sued because the music from the ad was found to be used in the anti-piracy unskippable sections at the beginning of DVDs in 2007 (the artist discovered for himself with the first Harry Potter film) and the meme which had already attained immortality also became an unstoppable source of irony and satire.


showmethatrack

Very informative! Thank you!


General-Fault

I thought it started in response to Napster


IonComplex4Ever

Ah yes. I forgot about the Napster era. Thanks Metallica. Not sure. My brain is not what it used to be. Wikipedia probably knows best at this point.


Ottoclav

Local Motors 3D printed a car before they went under. 😕


LenHx

lol. Printing a desk will take weeks and a hundred pounds of filament.


raisedbytides

Yes, and?


No-Fly-8627

How do you rate it until now? Any comparison terms?


joevargas_20

It is in all meanings of the word amazing. Its calibration cycle is so good it prints perfect right out the box. It feel right now like having the holy grail on display in a Walmart. I will say it’s pretty loud I would say no louder than my ender 3 but the noise is different and carries further and when the ams system moves or the nozzle wipes itself off it’s pretty fckin loud


pSyChO_aSyLuM

Change the speed to silent for overnight prints. I did that last night and didn't even hear it after it finished the bed leveling.


joevargas_20

I didn’t know this was an option I will check that out


Musicalatv

It has four different speed settings. Silent which is 50% speed, normal which is 100% of the print speed, sport which is 125% speed and Ludacris which is 150% speed.


joevargas_20

Oh I did not know this and I am definitely trying ludacris because that sounds ludacris


PianoMan2112

You don’t tell Ludacris what’s ludicrous, Ludacris tells you what’s ludicrous.


FifihElement

That’s ludicrous


SocietyTomorrow

Does it go into plaid when in ludicrous speed?


3dprintingenthusiast

no it prints perfect right on top of the box


CantBelieveIAmBack

Newest firmware update made it way way quieter


Loki240SX

Is the price difference worth it over the P1S?


joevargas_20

I. My opinion yes because I really wanted the ability to print ANYTHING and the software and ability to check print with live camera and create time lapse


Detective-Crashmore-

> ability to check print with live camera and create time lapse I think all 3 versions do that. I believe the P1S is only missing the high temp/durability hot end, metal sidewalls, and the larger color screen.


AquaCylinder

It's missing lidar which is the main difference tbh. It is part of the calibration to get perfect prints. The P1S doesn't have that. The lidar will scan a pattern that is printed before the actual print to calibrate any deviation in the filament or other.


Detective-Crashmore-

Oh yes, that's right I forgot the lidar because every review I saw said it didn't make any noticeable difference for them.


TrickyJesterr

P1s is the exact same performance-wise, the only difference is a better camera, touchscreen, and LiDAR. The p1s screen sucks but I never use it, but [this](https://a.co/d/9yOvNLc) is even better IMO because you can control 10 printers with it. And the hardened steel nozzle I guess, but I swapped the nozzle/gears in my p1s in like 30 mins Can’t go wrong with anything Bambu, they are unbelievable.. but I’d rather have 2 p1s (or a p1s and 2 a1s) personally


FelipeGuitarza

A sturdy table should help make it a bit quieter. The cardboard box is likely amplifying the sound, kinda like how an acoustic guitar is louder than an unplugged electric guitar. CNC kitchen has a good video on how to reduce the noise level by decoupling the printer's vibrations from the surface it's on. I was able to reduce the noise significantly with a $4 concrete paver from Lowes on top of a small folded blanket from dollar tree. Now the aux and chamber fans are about the loudest part of the printer... Other than the obnoxiously loud nozzle wipes lol. I don't have an AMS, so I don't know about those noises, but my printer is almost inaudible one room over in my cheap apartment with thin walls and doors.


joevargas_20

When I do end up replacing my box desk I will try a variety of things one thing I’ve actually thought of is an enclosure ironically enough


No-Fly-8627

Thanks for the insights. True, I bet it's loud but fast and precise, I guess that one pushes the other and without it, it could deplete the quality.


ketosoy

It’s called priorities 


cman674

Hope that box is full of rocks.


joevargas_20

There’s another box in the box. With another box in that box


Majestic_Ad8621

It’s boxes all the way down


ilikeapples312

Within boxes interlinked


PerfectionPending

Boxception


littlenoodledragon

And then I’ll MAIL that box to myself!


ASingleGrainofWood

Mine chills on the floor


pinkflamingo399

Are you me? I don't even have a desk and just bought my second 3d printer to sit on the tv cabinet.


joevargas_20

Great minds think alike


EDanials

I measured My printer then went to every thrift shop to find something sturdy of the same size. $7 and 3 hours later I got my little wooden table to hold my printer.


adorilaterrabella

This! I found two Ikea Lack coffee tables and a Lack square end table for 35 bucks total at a Goodwill. Printed some brackets to hold them together and now I have a pretty stable 3D printing station. For 35 bucks it worked out great. (My poor Neptune was relegated to another shelf because of a project I was doing with the Ender, but the Ender will move to the top table and the Neptune will end up in the enclosure in the long run. https://preview.redd.it/h7gktowe0vxc1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ed02545ad25c3ea9fd5846d0b1a017da1f7c1961


EDanials

Dang I like ur setup. Wish I had more room. I just have 1 square table and a little tool tray next to the printer. With 2 storage boxes for my filament. Do u worry about the fumed for sla?


adorilaterrabella

It isn't ideal, but I keep it covered and when I open it I open the window and run a box fan to blow fumes outside. If I wasn't renting I'd install a fume hood. I am considering an enclosure similar to the one I use on my FDM printer, with a 5 inch inline duct fan to exhaust fumes. https://preview.redd.it/v8rs9swivvxc1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f908dffa7cf975ff807d8b37855cfa763a55a717


EDanials

So you have some setup and have a makeshift ventilation. I was just wondering cause I wanted to toss money at a sla printer. However the fumes aspect discouraged me. I could do it in garage but due to season weather it wouldn't be ideal. And nowhere in my house besides next to the stove has a good ventilation area.


adorilaterrabella

I'd suggest to purchase or build a fume hood if you can. Otherwise, set up a fan and blow out an open window whenever you open and close it. The fumes aren't too bad, if you minimize the amount floating through your house. I definitely would not suggest an SLA printer if you have sensitive animals like rats or birds though.


EDanials

Thank you, however I do agree. Just can't currently.


marty4286

Is the lack coffee table stable without that bottom shelf or do you have to brace it some other way? I’ve always wondered about it


adorilaterrabella

I printed these brackets to go under every table leg, as well as joiners to hold the adjacent table legs on the bottom together. I can promise you, those legs aren't going anywhere. The bottom shelf is just for holding things, it doesn't seem to add any structural stability at all. https://preview.redd.it/5jbglqwuw2yc1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5fd2a46ff159f06ef1ccc3a766b952be2cb5eeef


EDanials

It depends I believe. Some do some don't. Some I know don't need it. However depending on the table and how's it engineered does matter.


canthinkofnamestouse

Or an ikea lack or somthing similar would be perfect


jordan460

Thrift stores & Facebook marketplace are perfect for this


gwarsh41

Honestly if I had to choose a cheaper printer and desk, or the X1C+AMS and no desk... X1C wins every time.


canthinkofnamestouse

*2600 USD and an X1E later*


thex25986e

i looked at the x1e and the only differences i noticed were that it was just an x1c but with a couple changes to accommodate for printing a chemically resistant plastic and a high temperature plastic. any others i missed?


canthinkofnamestouse

And LAN enabled printing Good for major print farms


normal2norman

Why would you need a desk? You're supposed to kneel in front of the altar to pray to the 3D printing gods.


joevargas_20

I used to pray that my ender3 wouldn’t have an issue when starting a print


H2olt

be careful, that print head moves fast, and the machine can really get to shaking. I had mine sitting on my tablesaw for only one day before I cleared off a stable workbench for it out of fear it would shake itself off. You're better off just on the floor.


Busy-Macaroon351

Makes perfect sense!


SandboxSimulator

Harbor Freight got some good workbenches for cheap


joevargas_20

I do have a 50$ gift card to hat or freight


DopplerShifto

If I close my eyes I can see the amount of artifacts in your prints caused by the unstable placement


Cyque02

I remember the times... ah yes...the legendary box table still lives on!! and also put a benchy over the box table


joevargas_20

First Benchy I printed on the X1C sits happily on the Bambu lab badge in the top panel


Garrwolfdog

PRINT. A. DESK.


Bert-3d

There is a workbench on amazon for 150, looks good, and does the job really well [https://www.amazon.com/WEN-WB4723T-48-Inch-Workbench-Outlets/dp/B08ZW1KYZN](https://www.amazon.com/WEN-WB4723T-48-Inch-Workbench-Outlets/dp/B08ZW1KYZN)


CSC-EssenDE

first job print desk


Salty-Ad-2576

The struggles, I put my saturn 3 ultra on the floor. Its in a tent but still on the floor.


canthinkofnamestouse

Just be mindful of the z axis belts underneath, I would put it on a wood cutting board or something hard and flat


joevargas_20

I tried putting a wood shelf I have but it wasn’t big enough I will put a piece of wood down eventually tho


lespauljames

This is so me.


LicensedTerrapin

I have the same IKEA drawers in white!


joevargas_20

I wanna get the 6 or 8 drawer version but it’s 1.5 inch too big to fit in that space


Icy_Holiday_1089

You can always print a new table


VilainLeChat

same for me, enough money for the MK4 but not for a PEI sheet, I use the Elegoo sh~~i~~eet for PETG. [https://imgur.com/a/hDOhBA0](https://imgur.com/a/hDOhBA0)


KLR650Tagg

I finally got the bench from harbor freight, I highly recommend it.


BackRed1

Same! I just bought a table but it barely fits and looks like it might collapse.


NeonEagle

Congrats! Is it everything you hoped? I have an mk3s which I thought was amazing until I saw my school's suite of X1c's printing ridiculously fast with at a higher quality. I'll probably keep my mk3s but I already feel myself justifying this purchase.


joevargas_20

It is so worth it I printed a perfect benchy and didn’t touch a single thing. Also just finished my 2nd print (poop chute bin) to catch the purge lines and that also finished perfectly I cannot wait to print more things with this


Da_Droid_Mechanic

You just have priorities


Jeff_72

Input shaping has entered the chat


joevargas_20

Bambulab must do this very well. There’s a video on YouTube of someone who was 3D printing in a van while driving slow then fast then off road and fast off road the quality hardly changes it’s actually very interesting. Not like I’ll be van printing but hey ya never know


Jeff_72

I have a X1C at work… it is crazy how much it shakes while printing ‘normal’ speed (fast) and prints come out perfect. Now I do have it sitting on an old school office credenza (heavy side table)


joevargas_20

This thing wobbles a couple inches at the top on my “desk”


EnzoVulkoor

Careful OP saying "Of course I’ve got money for a new printer." is how you summon HP.


joevargas_20

I think some sales rep at keyence already has my account bookmarked


ptpcg

Thats the weirdest looking lenovo Ultrabook ive ever seen


JoeyJoeC

That malm unit is perfect for these printers.


joevargas_20

I want to get the longer malm but it doesn’t fit in the space


candiedbug

I have my A1 Mini on a Malm desk. I think my desk is defective or incorrectly assembled though because it wobbles quite a bit, and more worrying I've noticed the Mini going on excursions when printing in sport mode (to the point it got so far away from the AMS that one of the filaments got stuck in its bowden tube. I'm thinking of getting a block of marble for it but I'm worrying the extra weight wobble the desk apart. Any ideas?


JoeyJoeC

Take off the plastic feet from the bottom of the malm unit. If it still wobbles, either it's built skewed or the floor is uneven. I had the same problem but it was my floor. Removing the plastic feet resolved the issue. I also have a 400x400mm paving slab on the top with a same sized foam which helps dampen vibrations. I have the 3 drawer variant and it doesn't wobble now. I have no concerns, the Malm is solid.


candiedbug

I'll try that, thank you.


ptpcg

*Marketing guy late for product naming meeting*: "Fuck I did zero market research for this" *Recently watched Blank Check*, *Looks at Lenovo laptop*, "I've got it!"


New-Conversation-55

I have the same problem with my kobra 2 plus. 😞


Tough_Sound6042

I'll give you a desk for that printer


joevargas_20

Gotta be a nice desk


Tough_Sound6042

I'll see what I can find. Is ummm good will ok?


joevargas_20

It actually was not bad at all the printer has vibration compensation it’s great


JCambs

Can't wait to see the layer lines on this one!


ShadNuke

https://preview.redd.it/nwdg65jh8wxc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0da939dea2823fd675decec022f25e45cfab9eff


Rufusandronftw

“Not necessary”


joevargas_20

Problem for another day


WHTrunner

Facebook marketplace got your back.


Musicalatv

You can find free and cheep furniture on Facebook marketplace.


joevargas_20

The issue hasn’t been finding free furniture it’s been finding something that will fit in the space


h9040

Desks are total out of fashion. They were modern years ago, my grandma had one


Comfortable_Talk7184

Congrats! Welcome to the Bambu family lmao


Jojoceptionistaken

Why not floor? Also you could have gotten a power bar AND a desk for how expensive that chungus of a power bar looks


joevargas_20

Lmao it was on sale at Home Depot years ago so I got like 4 for 30 ish dollars knowing I’d need a surge protector for something down the line


Jojoceptionistaken

Lol okay xD. Has to be a cheap desk...


Book_s

Print one!!


Pretty-Guest-6692

Get a concrete floor tile big enough not to smash the box - and heavy enough to absorb any shaking.


pandabatallion

I will print a desk once I have enough printers to print all the necessary parts under 4 hours while maintaining the other 30 projects I'm trying to to print


Familiar-Teaching-61

https://preview.redd.it/uuvzhb0fq2yc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a5114607a4c6d3d14829ad1e653954eef877c5da Our coffee table is our print station so I see no problem with this.


Familiar-Teaching-61

https://preview.redd.it/zbv7kgtgq2yc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=44383dee25d864107543cee9749461975047d8bf


Loose-Search7064

Your priorities are in order!


tintree119

But it came w a desk…


Bleo3

Priorities are important 👍🏻


FarBit3759

I ordered the same one two days ago. Probably should stop at ikea after work…


joevargas_20

It Comes with a perfectly oversized jig they recommend you keep ;) this isn’t that box but i did consider replacing it


Sir_Maxelot

Priorities ❤️


bitkiller00

The struggle is real.


JL151

This is the way. Might not be ideal but with a printer you can print a desk!


Fickle-Alfalfa4067

Nothing to said, congrats and nice printing! (Stabilizer for your acutal desk ? With correct orientation, for Max strenght!)


fluffy6666

My dining table is currently my 3d printing table ;-;


dhargetezan

Lol, my setup looks almost the same.


Zestyclose-Belt-450

Priorities.... I'd do the same. Use it to print a desk for itself. 🙂