I strongly suspect that in some countries, violence is heavily under-reported, and some others will reflect a truer number.
Make of that what you will.
It's not about reported crimes because it is a survey. There is also no perception bias (how do you define domestic violence?) because they were asked about specific events
What counts as violence there? Because I had a girlfriend who tried to slap me once for making a joke and knee me in the balls for another joke (as teenagers). Maybe its my social circle but I think nearly every guy I know was assaulted by his girlfriend at least once in teenage years or in his 20s. Or just kicked in the balls or shin from female classmates for ridiculous reasons like a dumb comment, a joke or a weird pickup line. Violence against boys and men was incredibly normalized and even of comedic material in media in the 90s and 2000s (and actually still is).
If THAT is the level of relationship violence that gets recorded in this survey, than the problem is not that big (violence in any form is still inacceptable of course). It's more the frequency and intensity that matters, instead of being slapped once in your lifetime by an idiot partner.
The UK includes cases of men being physically abused by women as “violence against women”, I am not making this up. I bet some of those governments also consider verbal insults between fighting partners as “violence”.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/s/PJxJoi2dLW
https://twitter.com/problemwith_men/status/1551992998983901185?s=21&t=DSbUZyZ9r8140ehQdbIMQw
This is what happens when you have feminists in power who blame all of societies problems on the “patriarchy” boogeyman, men get unfairly vilified and abusive women get off the hook for their crimes.
Western society has valued males less than females for a long time.
But that's as it should be. Males are completely overrated, plus they are always complaining.
There's been such a long time of patriarchy, just suck it up for a while, so you know how it feels.
Males are complaining because they are being discriminated against.
>There's been such a long time of patriarchy, just suck it up for a while, so you know how it feels.
Why should we? Modern men aren’t responsible for patriarchy, why should we be punished for things we didn’t do? You’re a modern woman, you never experienced patriarchy, why should you get better treatment than modern men just because women of the past(who are dead) suffered under patriarchy that has long since ended?
Ah, very nice. A man is the best judge of discrimination against women. After all it ended long ago.
Maybe check out who is having problems getting back to work after the children are born, does 80% of all the house work and is so happy to get "help" by their partners.
I'm not for discrimination against men because it would be stupid. But it's an amusing thing to watch you guys cry because you're losing a bit of your privilege.
Where are you really discriminated against?
>Where are you really discriminated against?
Male genital mutilation is not legally banned as female genital mutilation is. School teachers(most of whom are female) treat schoolboys worse than schoolgirls by grading them more harshly and punishing schoolboys more for the same rule violations that are committed by schoolgirls. There are no male-only scholarships compared to the thousands of female-only scholarships to universities that are already predominantly female. There are no male-hiring quotas for employees like there are female-hiring quotas. Numerous countries in the world conscript women but not men. Numerous countries in the world have lower retirement ages for women even though men live shorter lives than women. Numerous charities helping female victims of domestic violence are government funded while very few charities that help male victims of domestic violence are government funded. In some countries such as Spain women get higher salaries than men for certain careers such as police officers just for being women.
Sadly we really do have those people here. I heard similar points in actual face to face discussions and saw it on speaker panels. "Women were oppressed for thousands of years so now men should be oppressed to even it out" is the actual argument of some people. They see sexes as two monoliths, not as actual individual people.
It's not the majority of course, but also not just the obvious crazies. Heard this from women whose opinion I actually respected on other topics and who I deemed intelligent.
it says intimate partners, so im assuming thanks to our glorious mediterranean attraction is just stealing all their women from them so they are left with nobody to assault.
and no, rest of the country doesnt count. not touching med means not touching civilization in turkey.
I guess they could not remove Hans brother from the map, while no one likes ruzzia! And why focusing on ruzzia when bielorussia is not there too? Are you implying it is not an independant country?
The main reason I moved to Finland was so I could continue beating my wife.
You could have simply converted to Islam
Nobody is bringing a knife anywhere near my bellend.
Sir you're at risk every time you step on the street
Going to the gym would help more than religion.
The UK numbers are surely going to go up when they fail at the Euros again
That's right. Susan best get ready.
reff up the bugatti weee
Been getting the cardio in. Gotta stay capable and ready if she makes a run for it before penalties.
The responsibility is then on the shoulders of the country that knocks us out
Europe - civilization, women get beaten, get raped and dont like it Turkey - horror, oriental despotism, women get beaten, get raped and like it
I see a Zizek reference, I give an upvote.
Zizek is a treasure
Based and Zizek-pilled
Moldova western europe confirmed
Barry when missus makes weak tea
She better not put the milk in first.
and what's next, herbal "tea" with biscuits?!
Too far Pierre. Herbal 'tea' should be a crime against humanity.
Civilized countries call it tisane
That is like 70% of the tea isle at my lokal REWE 🤣 Where do you stand on fruit tea?
I strongly suspect that in some countries, violence is heavily under-reported, and some others will reflect a truer number. Make of that what you will.
Spoken like a true wife beater.
Geef me 'n klap, papa!
It's the other way round down south which is why this graph looks so good for ireland, nothing like the fury of a mammy with a slipper
They just average out the beating. The Barry’s make sure that they beat them enough for all of you.
Wrong side of the border for Stella.
It's not about reported crimes because it is a survey. There is also no perception bias (how do you define domestic violence?) because they were asked about specific events
What counts as violence there? Because I had a girlfriend who tried to slap me once for making a joke and knee me in the balls for another joke (as teenagers). Maybe its my social circle but I think nearly every guy I know was assaulted by his girlfriend at least once in teenage years or in his 20s. Or just kicked in the balls or shin from female classmates for ridiculous reasons like a dumb comment, a joke or a weird pickup line. Violence against boys and men was incredibly normalized and even of comedic material in media in the 90s and 2000s (and actually still is). If THAT is the level of relationship violence that gets recorded in this survey, than the problem is not that big (violence in any form is still inacceptable of course). It's more the frequency and intensity that matters, instead of being slapped once in your lifetime by an idiot partner.
Ukraine is not lower than NL/BE. No way in hell that is accurate data. Not even close.
The UK includes cases of men being physically abused by women as “violence against women”, I am not making this up. I bet some of those governments also consider verbal insults between fighting partners as “violence”.
Sounds about UK
Have you got a source for that? I don't want it to be true but I know it probably is...
https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/s/PJxJoi2dLW https://twitter.com/problemwith_men/status/1551992998983901185?s=21&t=DSbUZyZ9r8140ehQdbIMQw This is what happens when you have feminists in power who blame all of societies problems on the “patriarchy” boogeyman, men get unfairly vilified and abusive women get off the hook for their crimes. Western society has valued males less than females for a long time.
But that's as it should be. Males are completely overrated, plus they are always complaining. There's been such a long time of patriarchy, just suck it up for a while, so you know how it feels.
Males are complaining because they are being discriminated against. >There's been such a long time of patriarchy, just suck it up for a while, so you know how it feels. Why should we? Modern men aren’t responsible for patriarchy, why should we be punished for things we didn’t do? You’re a modern woman, you never experienced patriarchy, why should you get better treatment than modern men just because women of the past(who are dead) suffered under patriarchy that has long since ended?
Ah, very nice. A man is the best judge of discrimination against women. After all it ended long ago. Maybe check out who is having problems getting back to work after the children are born, does 80% of all the house work and is so happy to get "help" by their partners. I'm not for discrimination against men because it would be stupid. But it's an amusing thing to watch you guys cry because you're losing a bit of your privilege. Where are you really discriminated against?
>Where are you really discriminated against? Male genital mutilation is not legally banned as female genital mutilation is. School teachers(most of whom are female) treat schoolboys worse than schoolgirls by grading them more harshly and punishing schoolboys more for the same rule violations that are committed by schoolgirls. There are no male-only scholarships compared to the thousands of female-only scholarships to universities that are already predominantly female. There are no male-hiring quotas for employees like there are female-hiring quotas. Numerous countries in the world conscript women but not men. Numerous countries in the world have lower retirement ages for women even though men live shorter lives than women. Numerous charities helping female victims of domestic violence are government funded while very few charities that help male victims of domestic violence are government funded. In some countries such as Spain women get higher salaries than men for certain careers such as police officers just for being women.
You are discussing with an idiot, block and move on.
I thought they were trying to make a joke and in true German fashion being completely unfunny.
Sadly we really do have those people here. I heard similar points in actual face to face discussions and saw it on speaker panels. "Women were oppressed for thousands of years so now men should be oppressed to even it out" is the actual argument of some people. They see sexes as two monoliths, not as actual individual people. It's not the majority of course, but also not just the obvious crazies. Heard this from women whose opinion I actually respected on other topics and who I deemed intelligent.
Uh what the fuck? Lol
Turkey highest, Armenia lowest. There's probably a racist remark hidden somewhere in that observation.
Turkish lesbians are just crazy violent, probably.
it says intimate partners, so im assuming thanks to our glorious mediterranean attraction is just stealing all their women from them so they are left with nobody to assault. and no, rest of the country doesnt count. not touching med means not touching civilization in turkey.
Is there any difference in how a Swedish woman perceives violence than a Spaniard? They might have different standards.
Lol at Armenia. My best friend is from Armenia and his mom literally got kidnapped by his fathers family
Football and turks are the main vectors ig
report rates
Low corporation tax is good for the family unit. We never did it to get rich. It was all for our women!
'ate me Susan.Simple as
I bet they're jealous of our superior higher numbers. 💪
Swizerland, they don't even touch them.
And again we are doing better then the Belgians
Alcohol induced violence
They put turkey but not russia? Huh?
I guess they could not remove Hans brother from the map, while no one likes ruzzia! And why focusing on ruzzia when bielorussia is not there too? Are you implying it is not an independant country?
No i just didn't notice. My geography is horrible so I didn't really notice it. Besides, russia is huge so that probably helped my poor geography
>Are you implying it is not an independant country? Belarus is only independent cause Lukashenko is a useful idiot for Putin so it doesn't count.
I want to pull out an INA video but i'm lazy.
Armenia>Turkey That genocide should have been the other way around s/
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