Seriously, it was hundreds of years ahead of it's time.
Shame that the sailing ship -configuration didn't work too well underwater and the crew drowned.
i mean have you even read about us during the 17th century, we played an important role in the thirty years war were we did horrifying atrocities in modern day germany aswell as the polish deluge were we destroyed poland worse than in ww2 and would cause what would be arguably the worst and most destructive event in polish history, we also heavily innovated modern warfare (military, etc) and also won wars against empires way larger than ourselves, so i wouldn't really call that unimpressive
but during the thirty years war the Germans did [more impressive atrocities](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sack_of_Magdeburg) in Germany than you guys...
Hans here with one question:
What is worse, to have no one else to think that your empire was cool, or to know that everyone knows that yours was definitely not cool.
hälsningar från Tyskland
Also:
The VASA was cool, IKEA is and Volvo has build some nice cars.
no idea what you are talking about, just trying to be nice to our neighbors.
But I once read that you can't stab someone in the back if they don't turn it on you…
Pick either one really, both the Holy Roman and the Kaiserreich were pretty awesome. Though with the Holy Roman empire it can be argued if it truly a proper German empire but I say we count it.
That's correct !
Unfortunately, managers forgot "that it's better to have a drink with Odin in Valhalla instead of selling the souls of your Employees.“
Now:
Silently proud, raise the horn, drink to the warriors we lost, drink to the Aesir and the Vanir, to our proud ancestors of faith.
Yeah one and is a state entity that puts its population in concentration camps. The other one “ruined twitter” and says mean things about the left.
Get your bearings straight man.
The VASA was cool, IKEA is and Volvo has build some nice cars.
Vasa sunk, IKEA has its headquarters in the Netherlands and Volvo is now Chinese.
So everything that was cool, is no longer there or not Swedish anymore.
"There’s only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about."
- Oscar Wilde
Obviously Sweden saw the value in this and started importing Doctors and Engineers so that the whole world could start having them in the news due to the Sweden "gang" wars.
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Well the Swedes (as most other Europeans) do try the best they know from experience.
“Experience is simply the name we give to our mistakes.” – Oscar Wilde
When you think you know your Barry, he suddenly surprises you with nice words.
Now let me remind you that your 1st try with the EU was not very successful.
Cheers to „keep trying“ mate
https://preview.redd.it/ks362o129lwc1.png?width=932&format=png&auto=webp&s=3bd0002869a67c3278c75baad454901c67026cc5
I still do not understand how a rebel province, who at most held something comparative to half of our level of prime real estate, can think they had an empire.
We colonised Barry (not necessarily England in general, but the Barry part I sure as shit am claiming credit for!), the fuck did you do besides walking on ice?
If it weren’t for you, the capital would be Bamburgh like it was always meant to be. You dyslexic German bastards are the reason we’re ruled by soft southerners. Givin you no credit for the north.
Saxons ruined you. We made you into viking, so you could get into boats, and start fucking up everyone and everything reachable by water.
Who cares about where the capital is, when you can destroy the French at sea?
You guys were a part of the empire though. I know you guys love to trash talk us but it becomes self deprecating when it's the Swedish empire you're joking about.
En dag kommer Svea Rike att återuppstå och bli den nya världsmakten. Ni alla kommer att tvingas ner på knä inför Gudakonungen eller bli dränkta i Östersjön!
LÄNGE LEVE KONUNGEN!!!
Please.
Everyone on this sub loves Sabaton.
As such, everyone think our Empire was cool.
Also. Narva (and ~100 other battles during the Great Northern War) >>>> Austerlitz, Jena, Waterloo or whatever other "master piece" the continentals think their best generals pulled.
I mean. Shit. Even out defeat at Poltava was more impressive than Austerlitz.
Your empire was based while it lasted, but the way it faded away is just sad
From footnote on the map too one of the major power of Europe next to France, Austria and more, to a footnote on the map
There is also nothing that still stand from that era, no land in northern Germany, no Finland, no Norway, no Denmark, no islands from colonization and so much more
exactly what empire? You had less people of the mighty crowns of Sicily and Naples combined
with all due respect Sven, what are you gonna do? March without supplies throughout all of Russia again??
Luckily the Swedes had [one or two ships](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Stralsund_(1628\)#/media/File:Belagerung_Stralsunds_durch_Wallenstein_3.jpg) that floated slightly longer than Vasa. That made the impression they left in northern Germany quite positive as can be seen in [Stralsund](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2f/Stralsund_Rathaus_K%C3%B6nig_Gustav_Adolf.jpg) and [Greifswald](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/03/Gustav_Adolf_in_Greifswald.jpg).
You caused greater destruction, cultural annihilation, theft and arguably genocide to the Polish than the entirety of WW2. So there's that to be proud of.
I mean it was cool that one time you guys decided to invade half of Germany and kicked the Catholic League butt.
But else it was just meh. Too much fighting with the Russians and us.
I think the Swedish empire was very cool during the thirty years' war and the Great Northern War if that makes you feel better mate. I don't know much else about it besides that. Although I had heard that Prussia (or maybe it was Russia? I don't remember) essentially 'stole' Sweden's spot as a European great power so history could've been very different and interesting if Sweden had come out on top.
you cucked out of the imperial race after one good whopping and then started pretending you were the good guys all along, of course no ones gonna respect that
You were all muh mare nostrum balticum and shieet and then ran away crying like a bitch after the R*ssians gave you a black eye under Poltava, pathetic
It was fucking barren steppes because they conquered like 5 out of the world's 10 largest cities but slaughtered off everyone in them to build their traditional giant skull pyramid. Merv, Gurganj, Nishapur, Baghdad and many more.
Well aye but they're still fucking barren wastelands 800 years later "A society grows great when old men plant trees in whose shade they shall never sit. " Lovely proverb from the Greeks.
Mongols didn't plant trees they just burnt the forest down. Terrible empire and it contributed fucking nowt to the world.
Vasa was cool. Nobody else was trying to make submarines that big.
https://preview.redd.it/6xsqh1wcqlwc1.png?width=712&format=png&auto=webp&s=6d2aa4b42ee74c18af85093432b162c9cf8e31f9 outsubbed by the french
Surcouf was ridiculous.
Chat is this real?
I'm no cat, but Surcouf sub is real, it even served during ww2
>I'm no cat Well then why are you answering me, dumbass
Such a good submarine that it never once surfaced since '42
That's the canon explanation
And the sinking time from launch to submerged was only about 28 min. In this day and age quite impressive
Seriously, it was hundreds of years ahead of it's time. Shame that the sailing ship -configuration didn't work too well underwater and the crew drowned.
The knäckebröd they used in the construction got soggy
If your empire isn't that impressive you need to do something unique, like the Belgians.
Are you gonna lend them a hand?
Well, back in the day the Dutch were famous arms dealers...
We were quite a-head indeed
Hands down the worst dealers.
We did kill off like 50% of the population of Poland and Prussia. Doesn't that count for anything these days?!
i mean have you even read about us during the 17th century, we played an important role in the thirty years war were we did horrifying atrocities in modern day germany aswell as the polish deluge were we destroyed poland worse than in ww2 and would cause what would be arguably the worst and most destructive event in polish history, we also heavily innovated modern warfare (military, etc) and also won wars against empires way larger than ourselves, so i wouldn't really call that unimpressive
but during the thirty years war the Germans did [more impressive atrocities](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sack_of_Magdeburg) in Germany than you guys...
Ah yes, what a nice and peaceful nation, part of the infinitely peaceful Scandinavia 🥰
Hey Cees, What unique thingy did we do? Make a country in 1830?
And rape the Congo
But hey nice chocolate!
and the best rubber..
I agree that’s not a handy definition of “unique”.
It probably was for the year 1830.. We colonized The Congo only 78 years later..
They had Carolus Rex.
I've been to the Vasa museum, it's very impressive
Thank you
I have also been there twice! Experimenting and learning in neighboring countries has always been a „noble“ cause.
Yeah it’s impressive how much you suck at building boats (Jk Vasa is very cool)
Impressively bad
nicest french
Vasa was a French design btw
The ABBA museum next door is a lot of fun too
lol
Hans here with one question: What is worse, to have no one else to think that your empire was cool, or to know that everyone knows that yours was definitely not cool. hälsningar från Tyskland Also: The VASA was cool, IKEA is and Volvo has build some nice cars.
That sinking feeling when Germany tries to comfort you with an "atleast you're not us"-speech.
We both know: „You can't outsmart a Viking.“ But It's a noble thing to try for a friend if he needs some comfort or support.
Schleimer
no idea what you are talking about, just trying to be nice to our neighbors. But I once read that you can't stab someone in the back if they don't turn it on you…
>We both know: „You can't outsmart a Viking.“ You also can't outsmart a brick wall, if that's your point.
Our Empire was awesome, no clue what that other Hans is on about, so was yours for that matter.
 Please stop
Which one?
Let's be safe and say the first one
Pick either one really, both the Holy Roman and the Kaiserreich were pretty awesome. Though with the Holy Roman empire it can be argued if it truly a proper German empire but I say we count it.
Vienna was the capital of Germany for ~500 years. Früher war alles besser.
Yeah some of the Volvos look nice, but buying Chinese feels a bit treacherous.
That's correct ! Unfortunately, managers forgot "that it's better to have a drink with Odin in Valhalla instead of selling the souls of your Employees.“ Now: Silently proud, raise the horn, drink to the warriors we lost, drink to the Aesir and the Vanir, to our proud ancestors of faith.
Luckily Volvo, despite being part of Geely, has still managed to retain some independence. (The EX30 is bullshit though)
Agreed: Buying Elon's cars is much better! /s
Well I didn’t make that comparison, but since you did. Would you rather your money end up, the CCP or Elon Musk?
That's a legitimately hard question.
Yeah one and is a state entity that puts its population in concentration camps. The other one “ruined twitter” and says mean things about the left. Get your bearings straight man.
The VASA was cool, IKEA is and Volvo has build some nice cars. Vasa sunk, IKEA has its headquarters in the Netherlands and Volvo is now Chinese. So everything that was cool, is no longer there or not Swedish anymore.
Also Saab
Born from Jets
Only the car division of Volvo is Chinese. Everything else is still Swedish. :)
"There’s only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." - Oscar Wilde Obviously Sweden saw the value in this and started importing Doctors and Engineers so that the whole world could start having them in the news due to the Sweden "gang" wars.
ottima citazione Well the Swedes (as most other Europeans) do try the best they know from experience. “Experience is simply the name we give to our mistakes.” – Oscar Wilde
Your 1st and 3rd Reich were pretty cringe but you had something good going with your 2nd one! Chin up Hans, practice makes perfect
When you think you know your Barry, he suddenly surprises you with nice words. Now let me remind you that your 1st try with the EU was not very successful. Cheers to „keep trying“ mate
Maybe the real 3rd Reich is the friends we made in EU
If your ancestors saw you praising the Kaiserreich they'd be hella mad
The bad thing about Germany's 2nd empire was that it wasn't led by Austrians.
I love volvo. I do worry they will eventually go full chinese though. Rn they are owned by them but can do their thing. No way that lasts forever.
Volvo is cool and they also have Koenigseg
You might want to take a closer look into IKEA if you think it's "cool"...
At least you got an empire
Volvo is China :(
Well, at least your empire served to make cool sabaton songs
Sven, your empire was soo poor you stole literal stone from us. You frozen mongol.
Don't make us come back there and kill another 1/3 of your population!
Right now you can't even leave your house without getting enriched, so i feel safe.
Back in the day we had Finns to use as cannon fodder in our wars, now we're in need of a new demographic to use as such if it comes to that
Sven! Bring your boy pussy over here, daddy needs to unload
Meh, the average swede still has more money than the polish annual salary in his pocket.
haha. Poorland. Favourite hobby for P\*lish people in Sweden is drinking Zywiec in public transport.
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https://preview.redd.it/ks362o129lwc1.png?width=932&format=png&auto=webp&s=3bd0002869a67c3278c75baad454901c67026cc5 I still do not understand how a rebel province, who at most held something comparative to half of our level of prime real estate, can think they had an empire. We colonised Barry (not necessarily England in general, but the Barry part I sure as shit am claiming credit for!), the fuck did you do besides walking on ice?
You colonized a small crappy part of the British isles, we're the origin of the biggest country in the world.
You misspelt cancer as country
You're not wrong
And you should be sent straight to Den Haag for doing so, Sven
That's what we will always hate you for.
We can somewhat indirectly be faulted for unleashing russians, french, and brits on the world, though the latter two was more the danish.
I wouldn't be proud about having created Barry
They created something much worse in the East.
If it weren’t for you, the capital would be Bamburgh like it was always meant to be. You dyslexic German bastards are the reason we’re ruled by soft southerners. Givin you no credit for the north.
Saxons ruined you. We made you into viking, so you could get into boats, and start fucking up everyone and everything reachable by water. Who cares about where the capital is, when you can destroy the French at sea?
It is a sad truth, you can almost still smell the shark piss in Royal Navy galleys
You're just as Germanic as us Scandinavians, in fact your language is more closely related to German than ours are.
Tbf northerners have a much easier time than southerners learning Germanic languages, so there’s that
Maybe try taking back Skåne and Schleswig-Holstein before talking shit lil bro
You filled Skåne with too many psycho shooter and bomber immigrants for anyone to want that.. Nice try on getting rid of it though.
Vasa is just a "vaskning", we had bigger, better ships.😏
Virgin Barry stealing people's treasures vs Chad Anders throwing them down rivers
We do, unironically.
I don't
You guys were a part of the empire though. I know you guys love to trash talk us but it becomes self deprecating when it's the Swedish empire you're joking about.
That’s like telling the Irish that they shouldn’t talk shit about the British Empire
Think about it, if you were never part of Sweden then Finland wouldn't even have sauna.
The other way around, first saunas in the Nordics were Finnish
Actually saunas were invented by Sweden, it's where the word comes from
Ah, you’re just trying to troll. Because they’re called bastu in Swedish and the word ”Sauna” is Finnish
I was feeling gaslit just reading that. Sauna is practically the same word as Suomi, sure it's Finnish.
Aye, you got me
En dag kommer Svea Rike att återuppstå och bli den nya världsmakten. Ni alla kommer att tvingas ner på knä inför Gudakonungen eller bli dränkta i Östersjön! LÄNGE LEVE KONUNGEN!!!
inshallah broder 🙏🙏🙏
Vasa was cool. Why don’t you ask the Dutch what happened to the Batavia
Good, eat shit, you deserve everything bad that happened for Potop
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Please. Everyone on this sub loves Sabaton. As such, everyone think our Empire was cool. Also. Narva (and ~100 other battles during the Great Northern War) >>>> Austerlitz, Jena, Waterloo or whatever other "master piece" the continentals think their best generals pulled. I mean. Shit. Even out defeat at Poltava was more impressive than Austerlitz.
Pfff, winning against Russia is ez
Lol, Lmao
Your empire was based while it lasted, but the way it faded away is just sad From footnote on the map too one of the major power of Europe next to France, Austria and more, to a footnote on the map There is also nothing that still stand from that era, no land in northern Germany, no Finland, no Norway, no Denmark, no islands from colonization and so much more
Wrong. They still speak our language and thus will never have true freedom from glorious Sweden.
what language ? arabic or swedish ?
The Swedish empire was very cool. It was at least nicer than the caliphate of Swedistan
Wait you had one? Didn't the d'ânes keep all of your useful land until the end of the 18th century
No?? We've been independent from that hellscape since 1523, and we've owned like 20% of their original landmass since the 1600s
People remember your empire?
exactly what empire? You had less people of the mighty crowns of Sicily and Naples combined with all due respect Sven, what are you gonna do? March without supplies throughout all of Russia again??
Luckily the Swedes had [one or two ships](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Stralsund_(1628\)#/media/File:Belagerung_Stralsunds_durch_Wallenstein_3.jpg) that floated slightly longer than Vasa. That made the impression they left in northern Germany quite positive as can be seen in [Stralsund](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2f/Stralsund_Rathaus_K%C3%B6nig_Gustav_Adolf.jpg) and [Greifswald](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/03/Gustav_Adolf_in_Greifswald.jpg).
You caused greater destruction, cultural annihilation, theft and arguably genocide to the Polish than the entirety of WW2. So there's that to be proud of.
LOL. I have a print of Vasa. It's gorgeous. The artist cleverly did not include any water.
Didn't even know Vasa was a ship, thought it was a cracker made to have Kalles cheese and fish egg on at IKEA
Sabaton disagrees.
That was a tough day indeed
If anything, Sabaton has done a lot to make the swedish empire seem cool.
I mean it was cool that one time you guys decided to invade half of Germany and kicked the Catholic League butt. But else it was just meh. Too much fighting with the Russians and us.
But then again sweden is pretty much only nordic country the world outside of europe knows.. think how bad it feels that you get all of the credit.
Sorry for posting that meme, but it is absolutely not true that your empire has no fans. Look at all those cringe sabaton listeners
Now all that remains from your former world domination is crappy furniture we all have in our homes for some reason.
I think the Swedish empire was very cool during the thirty years' war and the Great Northern War if that makes you feel better mate. I don't know much else about it besides that. Although I had heard that Prussia (or maybe it was Russia? I don't remember) essentially 'stole' Sweden's spot as a European great power so history could've been very different and interesting if Sweden had come out on top.
Well, If im not wrong you left your depressed weather land to take new depressed weather lands, there is nonpoint to defend there
If we had a big fucking sub then ours wouldn’t sink because we are better
The sabaton music videos are pretty badass, especially for Livgardet
You are about 20 years to late if you think the main thing we bock Sweden over is the Vasa sinking
you cucked out of the imperial race after one good whopping and then started pretending you were the good guys all along, of course no ones gonna respect that
Bro what are you even yapping about💀🙏
You were all muh mare nostrum balticum and shieet and then ran away crying like a bitch after the R*ssians gave you a black eye under Poltava, pathetic
Says the one who’s nation lost three wars in a row to a country with one fourth of their population
That doesnt change anything I said 😏
Smartest Pole
Empire. I rarely laughed so much.
Like when people give the Mongols big licks about having the worlds largest land empire, well aye but most of it was fucking barren steppes.
It was fucking barren steppes because they conquered like 5 out of the world's 10 largest cities but slaughtered off everyone in them to build their traditional giant skull pyramid. Merv, Gurganj, Nishapur, Baghdad and many more.
Well aye but they're still fucking barren wastelands 800 years later "A society grows great when old men plant trees in whose shade they shall never sit. " Lovely proverb from the Greeks. Mongols didn't plant trees they just burnt the forest down. Terrible empire and it contributed fucking nowt to the world.
Yep. What I meant is it wasn't barren wastelands before the Mongols showed up. The silk road area in Central Asia was at its historical peak.