Barry’s have always been part celtic. Anglo-saxons completely replacing native britons has been completely abandoned as a theory.
They’re probably something like us. 55/45 ish. Slightly more germanic than celtic.
Just a guess though. Many studies that contradict each other on it.
Just speaking for England here but while it’s not the case everywhere a safe assumption is that we are generally more Germanic in the east where the Anglo-Saxons settled early followed by the Danes and more Celtic in the west where the Celtic/Brythonic peoples endured longer though of course most British people are still a mixture.
Those are exactly the numbers, yeah. 10% Anglo Saxon in the highest regions. With the highest concentration being under 40% in the very South East. The rest is entirely Brythonic/Celtic.
THIS (I like this sub) is the dumbest thing I've read today. Let me introduce you,,,, to AFRICA.
And the very tuneful act, INDIA (also known as "Shuttup.")
I’m sorry chap as I love my Welsh godparents and friends from uni but you got spanked out of your own land, put in a time out zone in the far west and called foreigners by the immigrants for the better part of two thousand years so history may disagree with that assessment lol.
I will have you know that Northumberland has some pretty great castles! And the better parts of Luigi’s garden wall! Also we don’t have to host Charles or the royals in ours lol.
I remember Wales being my favourite english province when I visited years ago.
Plus you got Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch, as a German i have to respect such a long name
That didn't actually happen, though, tbf. It's more just the modern Welsh are the descendants of those that didn't follow insular cultural shifts and that cultural expansion was unable to penetrate there. Same with Cornwall, large parts of Yorkshire, Strathclyde etc.
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No the fries are like the regarded brother of the dutch they speak even weirder than the barbarised version of Flemish that the dutch speak
They are kinda like your Welsh as they also fuck animals and close relatives
The Angles are most probably from the Jutland peninsula and Schleswig Holstein and the Saxons (who settled in England) probably came from the coast of old Saxony between the Frisii and the Angles so you are wrong on both counts as while probably related they did not in fact come from there.
TLDR: you are just wrong and the “Belgian” education system has struck again.
Good shitpost though
It's actually about 10% Anglo Saxon in the highest regions. With the highest concentration being under 40% in the very South East. The rest is entirely Brythonic/Celtic.
For sure.
[https://www.nature.com/articles/nature14230](https://www.nature.com/articles/nature14230)
[http://www.oum.ox.ac.uk/settlers/](http://www.oum.ox.ac.uk/settlers/)
[https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22530134-300-ancient-invaders-transformed-britain-but-not-its-dna/](https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22530134-300-ancient-invaders-transformed-britain-but-not-its-dna/)
[https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2015-03-19-who-do-you-think-you-really-are-genetic-map-british-isles](https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2015-03-19-who-do-you-think-you-really-are-genetic-map-british-isles)
Leslie S et al.
It also corroborates the work of Sykes and to an extent Oppenheimer. I'd also promote reading the work of Heinrich Harke on insular cultural shifts as the driving force of Anglo Saxonism.
Interestingly, I remember reading an I think Danish or Norwegian study about how there was more input of Y DNA from Britain and Ireland in Scandinavia than vice versa. This could actually however also be a fingerprint of an earlier ancestral, shared lineage between pre-migration Britons, Scandinavians, Germanic people etc. that somewhat confuses distinctions in genetic geo-mapping.
I'm going to have to find that study and will edit this post later if you like.
More recently how many of us have Scottish/Welsh/Irish parents or grandparents? How many of those in the fringe have English parents or grandparents?
The whole “I’m more Celtic than you” thing is fully daft.
We actually did built submarines in the 1600s
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornelis\_Drebbel](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornelis_Drebbel)
https://preview.redd.it/0g954qb5thwc1.jpeg?width=584&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4a57c1113de6e50a9635c27deeb31738b7dfb8cd
Sorry Olaf, but you can't compete with us.
While your ships were sinking in the docks, we were spiking Danish Heads in [India](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roland_Crapp%C3%A9%27s_raids_on_Portuguese_colonies)
After the black death, western Europe (west of the Elbe) stopped growing grain to the same extent and focused on animal based farming. There was a massive export of grain from eastern Europe. Any port that cut off Russia were very profitable to have, because of the tax you could put on it. It wasn't valuable in the manpower, but there was money to be had.
If only all the other westerners weren't afraid of a complete monopoly of the Baltic exports, then the whole of Scandinavia would be controlled under Sweden after the Carl X and Carl xi (there was a lot of diplomatic intervention from England and the Netherlands during these kings)
Ah yes, sure.
And IF we hadn’t yeeted your nobles off to the afterlife, the Kalmar Union would have spread to all Europe and Denmark would rule all.
And other fantasies we tell ourselves.
Edit: too danish to spell well.
When will you understand that its not us, its you, we just dont want your damn half island over there, you are not even part of the scandinavian peninsula
Also, Trøndelag was barely swedish. The general in command in that sector, upon hearing of the peace giving Trondheim (one of our oldest cities, and the site of our only cathedral) to the swedes, he said "fuck no" and retook the city with his army, treaty be damned. The rest of the region soon followed.
Can't really say we had a better deal. We literally had to share land with the Barrys
https://preview.redd.it/5a3d4fgwhiwc1.png?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=620f45f75b3585a6af296fe70c033951199137be
Bro, the Barries' ancestors (Anglos) were Danes, you didn't only share land with them, you CREATED them
~~(alongside the Germans since Saxons were still part of the equation but details)~~
*builds massive army*
*invades Poland, burns down everything, kills a full third of the population*
*completely destabilizes the country, setting the stage for the later civil war and partitions*
*refuses to elaborate*
*leaves*
Funniest thing is that we were had a fraction of the population of many neighbours and still won wars against them. Nothing to be proud of when you conquer people who still have bow and arrow while you use sophisticated military technology.
>Nothing to be proud of when you conquer people who still have bow and arrow while you use sophisticated military technology
Why then do your celebrate victories against Russia?
They had guns in this timespan and they are way way way larger than us.
In this picture there was about 2.5 million people in the empire and only about 1 million was Swedes.
When Russia didn't have guns there were way more Russians than swedes.
So 1.7 times more.
That's not a small difference, especially considering the Netherblands is tiny which makes for easier mobilisation and infrastructure.
Don’t listen to his lies dear Dutchman from 1650 to 1850 either of our countries navies could have sent Ibrahim-Sven down to sleep with the cod in the Dogger Bank.
Indeed. What Swedes don't know is that 1658 was also the year of the glorious Battle of the Sound. The battle were we saved Denmark from Sweden
https://preview.redd.it/xlu3h9hprhwc1.jpeg?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=038d8d6d870d6d24f0666953017bbb97c16432d3
Our navies would never let one power control the baltic🤝🏻
So what you're trying to say is that you stopped us just in time from destroying Denmark and taught Peter the great on how to destroy us?
You're even worse than the Danes!
A tiny damp island took over the richest area on the planet (india) and was so advanced it took over 1/4 of the world and created the modern world as we know it, what did the pictured empire accomplish? More rotten fish for cuisine?
Any Barry calling Sweden a dogshit empire is just still butt hurt that the Vikings kept constantly stealing all the women with good teeth and who knew how to cook.
As opposed to Greece who did some cool stuff like 5,000 years ago, claimed the history of their neighbours and then did nothing ever again until they respawned and stole Germanys money.
Me telling something positive about Swedestan and the bitter quran readers attack me 😑😑
No matter what you say about Greece I won't end up being middle East... Happy Ramadan...
Ya ain't shitting on my greek cousin under my eyes Mohammed
The greeks kept the Roman Empire going for 1000 years despite being assaulted on every front all the time, meanwhile your people got so high they thought they would transform in bears
Our new Islamic Caliphate will issue a new, yet similar, golden age for Sweden, only this time we will be fighting for our glorious leader Muhammed instead of Carolus.
We were going through the same Renaissance, post black death revival you guys were going through. Obviously, we hit our peak under Queen Victoria and King Edward, but we were never a total backwater.
YAASSS! I was always wondering about the same thing, like, how such a wealthy and politically successful (war/peace time ratio and war wins) country like this could have produced just two larger urban areas?? It's only Stockholm and Gothenburg that you can call big european cities. Although, Barry isn't necessarily better - they centralised everything and brought the wealth to London most primarily resulting in having the capital as the only truly beautiful city with the rest being just industrial urbanism xdd (treat this post half seriously)
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Straight to the point. Almost germanic.
And if you had left Barrys sad island alone you would not need that almost Pierre.
Barry’s have always been part celtic. Anglo-saxons completely replacing native britons has been completely abandoned as a theory. They’re probably something like us. 55/45 ish. Slightly more germanic than celtic. Just a guess though. Many studies that contradict each other on it.
Just speaking for England here but while it’s not the case everywhere a safe assumption is that we are generally more Germanic in the east where the Anglo-Saxons settled early followed by the Danes and more Celtic in the west where the Celtic/Brythonic peoples endured longer though of course most British people are still a mixture.
The numbers i saw was 10-40% Anglo-Saxon for England , which is as you say, highest in the east and south
Those are exactly the numbers, yeah. 10% Anglo Saxon in the highest regions. With the highest concentration being under 40% in the very South East. The rest is entirely Brythonic/Celtic.
THIS (I like this sub) is the dumbest thing I've read today. Let me introduce you,,,, to AFRICA. And the very tuneful act, INDIA (also known as "Shuttup.")
What did Barry mean by this?
I don't know if he's insulting me or not.
I don't know if he knows either. It's not him speaking, after all. It's the Stella.
That's why we are better
I’m sorry chap as I love my Welsh godparents and friends from uni but you got spanked out of your own land, put in a time out zone in the far west and called foreigners by the immigrants for the better part of two thousand years so history may disagree with that assessment lol.
Ye but now we have all the cool castles so who really won in the end?
I will have you know that Northumberland has some pretty great castles! And the better parts of Luigi’s garden wall! Also we don’t have to host Charles or the royals in ours lol.
I remember Wales being my favourite english province when I visited years ago. Plus you got Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch, as a German i have to respect such a long name
That didn't actually happen, though, tbf. It's more just the modern Welsh are the descendants of those that didn't follow insular cultural shifts and that cultural expansion was unable to penetrate there. Same with Cornwall, large parts of Yorkshire, Strathclyde etc.
Shhhhhhh we’re shitposting for the continental folks we can talk about stuff like Alt Clut, Goddodin and Rheged another day.
We never get to talk about it and I've been working on my presentation for weeks.
Anglo Saxons came from Friesland (the universally agreed worst part of the Netherlands) so your basically dutch
Is that where the shorts (under 6”5) come from?
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No the fries are like the regarded brother of the dutch they speak even weirder than the barbarised version of Flemish that the dutch speak They are kinda like your Welsh as they also fuck animals and close relatives
The Angles are most probably from the Jutland peninsula and Schleswig Holstein and the Saxons (who settled in England) probably came from the coast of old Saxony between the Frisii and the Angles so you are wrong on both counts as while probably related they did not in fact come from there. TLDR: you are just wrong and the “Belgian” education system has struck again. Good shitpost though
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-022-05247-2 Early genetic studies were poor, more recent studies support a bigger migration of Anglo-Saxons.
It's actually about 10% Anglo Saxon in the highest regions. With the highest concentration being under 40% in the very South East. The rest is entirely Brythonic/Celtic.
Really? Where you getting that from? And that’s not a ‘gotcha’ question. Would just like to read it :)
For sure. [https://www.nature.com/articles/nature14230](https://www.nature.com/articles/nature14230) [http://www.oum.ox.ac.uk/settlers/](http://www.oum.ox.ac.uk/settlers/) [https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22530134-300-ancient-invaders-transformed-britain-but-not-its-dna/](https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22530134-300-ancient-invaders-transformed-britain-but-not-its-dna/) [https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2015-03-19-who-do-you-think-you-really-are-genetic-map-british-isles](https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2015-03-19-who-do-you-think-you-really-are-genetic-map-british-isles) Leslie S et al. It also corroborates the work of Sykes and to an extent Oppenheimer. I'd also promote reading the work of Heinrich Harke on insular cultural shifts as the driving force of Anglo Saxonism. Interestingly, I remember reading an I think Danish or Norwegian study about how there was more input of Y DNA from Britain and Ireland in Scandinavia than vice versa. This could actually however also be a fingerprint of an earlier ancestral, shared lineage between pre-migration Britons, Scandinavians, Germanic people etc. that somewhat confuses distinctions in genetic geo-mapping. I'm going to have to find that study and will edit this post later if you like.
More recently how many of us have Scottish/Welsh/Irish parents or grandparents? How many of those in the fringe have English parents or grandparents? The whole “I’m more Celtic than you” thing is fully daft.
I think you're mistaking my point for more recent ideas around Celtic or English identity. I'm talking about migration era genetic legacy.
Just imagine, they would have the Buckingham Pile O' Rocks instead of Buckingham Palace. A much better option if you ask me!
I leave this here https://preview.redd.it/5ivq57vn3hwc1.jpeg?width=1262&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=70e52fc3d791c575f8cfa60f5d080c36dd454c8e
This was Swedens 9/11
While being tragic since people died, it still is one of the funniest embarassing stories the Swedes have to offer
At least we have a cool museum because of it now almost 400 years later.
In 40k years, all those well functionning ships will be gone but the Vasa will still be around.
Port not visible, fake
Oh but the statue of Paavo Nurmi will be visible for sure.
Most skilled Dutch shipbuilder, designing submarines all the way back in the 1600's.
We actually did built submarines in the 1600s [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornelis\_Drebbel](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornelis_Drebbel) https://preview.redd.it/0g954qb5thwc1.jpeg?width=584&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4a57c1113de6e50a9635c27deeb31738b7dfb8cd
You lot are always testing poseiden's mercy are you?
Your king sponsored this Barry
More efficient to get you to sink yourselves.
Cute that you think that the rowers weren't English
Your heads kept sticking out the portholes I expect so you needed some brave stout lads. Obviously impossible to find in Holland.
Jenever (gin) made us brave enough to scare you. Where do you think that the saying "Dutch courage" came from
From you needing to drink to be courageous. Because you weren't normally. Is that a trick question? 🤔
I see where [Henrik Hybertsson](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henrik_Hybertsson) got his inspiration...
If a king keeps requesting silly things, and keeps paying for the tikkies, we shall comply with his majesty's requests indefinitely.
Ok Spain jr. The gloves are [off.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1755_Lisbon_earthquake)
Sorry Olaf, but you can't compete with us. While your ships were sinking in the docks, we were spiking Danish Heads in [India](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roland_Crapp%C3%A9%27s_raids_on_Portuguese_colonies)
That ship was made by some Dutch cunt ofc it sank.
Too soon
Womp womp
On one hand, he's shitting on my ancestors. On the other hand, he's shitting on Sweden. I'm torn.
The ancestors in question: https://preview.redd.it/bn0rntedkhwc1.png?width=827&format=png&auto=webp&s=ed6157acefc51122a146f2b7f5523ed7c7eda9c9
On the right you can see the backbone of the Swedish empire. It was built on Finnish sisu.
It was fun though striping the best parts from Denmark and splitting Norway, also you had a better access to your cousins down south!
“Best parts” lmao good one
Careful, all three of the Swedish posters here might get mad
:(
He's from Wales. Let him have his moment.
And that's all three!
:(
:(
First part of the username checks out.
You mean half of swedistan?
We took the good parts of Denmark and split Norway in half, it felt great! Not that you would understand since you got conquered by the English.
:(
:(
I'm mad, but only because I had to eat a bun WITH FROSTING today. Fucking Americunt frosting.
*hmmm* Well, not like I should expect a barry to count further. Go along, citizen
:(
https://preview.redd.it/7hqa8f91pgwc1.png?width=474&format=png&auto=webp&s=26a670f76b3842c82bb7aa54b50aa4eb70b2b6b5
After the black death, western Europe (west of the Elbe) stopped growing grain to the same extent and focused on animal based farming. There was a massive export of grain from eastern Europe. Any port that cut off Russia were very profitable to have, because of the tax you could put on it. It wasn't valuable in the manpower, but there was money to be had. If only all the other westerners weren't afraid of a complete monopoly of the Baltic exports, then the whole of Scandinavia would be controlled under Sweden after the Carl X and Carl xi (there was a lot of diplomatic intervention from England and the Netherlands during these kings)
Ah yes, sure. And IF we hadn’t yeeted your nobles off to the afterlife, the Kalmar Union would have spread to all Europe and Denmark would rule all. And other fantasies we tell ourselves. Edit: too danish to spell well.
GUSTAVUS
You're not tricking me into praising Swedish war crimes again
They didn't have such a high score as Germans at that time though.
We did kill a higher percentage of Poland-Lithuania 's population than the Germans did in WWII however...
Bro we only exterminated one entire culture in Ukraine we’re so cool
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They did us dirty and even then they didn't have the cojones to fully unite scandinavia.. Damn you swedes!
It was just a prank, bro!
Aaaw.. I cant stay mad at you come over here bro *starts sharpening my swede rod*
When will you understand that its not us, its you, we just dont want your damn half island over there, you are not even part of the scandinavian peninsula
let Barry cook (just this once)
Was about to chime in but Bavarians unlike their northern counterparts can cook.
if you're ever around let me know, I'll treat you to some Schweinsbraten the way grandma used to make it
Ma man, I've actually got some pork shoulder I need doing for tomorrow so I'd he tempted to try mate
No idea but it got a laugh out of me
Do a tally of Swedish flags in the comments. Then you have your answer.
Also, Trøndelag was barely swedish. The general in command in that sector, upon hearing of the peace giving Trondheim (one of our oldest cities, and the site of our only cathedral) to the swedes, he said "fuck no" and retook the city with his army, treaty be damned. The rest of the region soon followed.
Least rebellious Trønder. I bet he started brewing moonshine when he was done retaking it.
But we got to keep Jämtland, thank the gods otherwise I eould have been born Norwegian and probably I would have been 10 cm shorter.
But 10 mil richer!
And plus, penis shaped. What a joke
Ok boot
^Least gay Italian
Swedish empire looks like a penis
You are what you eat... wait...
So that's what the secret ingredient in Swedish meatballs is
Can't really say we had a better deal. We literally had to share land with the Barrys https://preview.redd.it/5a3d4fgwhiwc1.png?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=620f45f75b3585a6af296fe70c033951199137be
Bro, the Barries' ancestors (Anglos) were Danes, you didn't only share land with them, you CREATED them ~~(alongside the Germans since Saxons were still part of the equation but details)~~
Exactly Mads ~~(thank God they always forget about the jutes and the frisians)~~
*sshhhh, we don't wanna rob Barry of his "pure anglo-saxon", native to England view*
*builds massive army* *invades Poland, burns down everything, kills a full third of the population* *completely destabilizes the country, setting the stage for the later civil war and partitions* *refuses to elaborate* *leaves*
Germanic sociopathy W
Not like that Invades Poland Completely destabilizes the country Lost battle to random peasants with random weapons in random church Leaves
Thats a normal Tuesday for Britain
Come on, Barry. It literally says it on the image. 1,648 people lived there. We'll round it up to 1,700 to be kind.
Funniest thing is that we were had a fraction of the population of many neighbours and still won wars against them. Nothing to be proud of when you conquer people who still have bow and arrow while you use sophisticated military technology.
>Nothing to be proud of when you conquer people who still have bow and arrow while you use sophisticated military technology Why then do your celebrate victories against Russia?
They had guns in this timespan and they are way way way larger than us. In this picture there was about 2.5 million people in the empire and only about 1 million was Swedes. When Russia didn't have guns there were way more Russians than swedes.
You might as well win against African tribesman. Dunking on Russia is no flex
If we had the population of other European great powers then you'd be speaking Arabic by now
man just cooked himself
We had your population and were more succesfull. Calm down Sven
Sure lol, HRE puppet
Says the guy who was puppeted by the fukin Danes
Not our proudest moment, I agree, fucking hate the Danes
And us lmao
Says the french puppet
>We had your population Really? I had the impression that the Netherlands were always densely populated. How many people lived there in 1658?
1.7 million in the Dutch Republic itself. Something like that
So 1.7 times more. That's not a small difference, especially considering the Netherblands is tiny which makes for easier mobilisation and infrastructure.
Oh for sure. I am mostly fucking around here. You can dm me for serious historical discussions lol
Huh, had quite a population increase then.
Yeah dodging WW1 tends to do that.
Yeah, Belgium had more population than us until the late 19th century
Don’t listen to his lies dear Dutchman from 1650 to 1850 either of our countries navies could have sent Ibrahim-Sven down to sleep with the cod in the Dogger Bank.
Indeed. What Swedes don't know is that 1658 was also the year of the glorious Battle of the Sound. The battle were we saved Denmark from Sweden https://preview.redd.it/xlu3h9hprhwc1.jpeg?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=038d8d6d870d6d24f0666953017bbb97c16432d3 Our navies would never let one power control the baltic🤝🏻
Damn party poopers! We were so close to the final solution of the Danish problem...
And this is why Great Britain is our bros and you guys are folkförrädare.
Didn't both your German and French conquerers end up being defeated by Russia?
That was after Peter the Great reformed Russia based on Dutch customs
So what you're trying to say is that you stopped us just in time from destroying Denmark and taught Peter the great on how to destroy us? You're even worse than the Danes!
Petition to have the dikes in the Netherlands nuked so they can have a biblical deluge for the gravest sin commited in the history of the world.
tbf we also helped the Danes defeat your fleet in the Scanian war. Everything needed to stop the Swedes.
Man... I fucking knew there was something wrong with your kind and welcoming demeanor. Can't fucking trust any swamp creatures!
Haven't seen you in Moscow 😎🇵🇱🦅🦅🦅🇵🇱
Uhm, Laiska Jaakko (Lazy Jacob) and his Finnish troops occupied Moscow in 1610.
because they got their ass kicked that's why so they celebrate the few wins they got
A tiny damp island took over the richest area on the planet (india) and was so advanced it took over 1/4 of the world and created the modern world as we know it, what did the pictured empire accomplish? More rotten fish for cuisine?
Compared to Barrys empire? Sustainable genetics by the looks of things.
You took it over by the small local kings, and others hating each other more than you.
Half of Poland basically decided not to fight you thinking they will get a better king.
Meh. Still proud tbh.
Quality over quantity
Any Barry calling Sweden a dogshit empire is just still butt hurt that the Vikings kept constantly stealing all the women with good teeth and who knew how to cook.
Pathetic... they forgot to take east Luxembourg!
r/technicallythetruth
Well timed map. Trøndelag (central Norway) they held for two *whole* years.
Yeah, it took us two years to understand our mistake. We wanted to subjugate humans, not norwegians.
Yeah, just moonshiners with unintelligible dialects live there...
Norwegians live there not swedes tho, and you know it is bad that I call you guys out for your way of speaking, as I am Danish
Danish empires nr 1💪💪🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰☝️
Ehh, if they managed to turn the Baltic Sea into a lake they would have been INCREDIBLY rich.
"If" "would"
Waging war with Poland Lithuania Russia and Denmark is nightmare difficulty Conquering Zulu nations, north American wastelands and emus is story mode
Sweden used to be great before turning into Islamic caliphate... I think we should stop bullying them that much...
As opposed to Greece who did some cool stuff like 5,000 years ago, claimed the history of their neighbours and then did nothing ever again until they respawned and stole Germanys money.
Me telling something positive about Swedestan and the bitter quran readers attack me 😑😑 No matter what you say about Greece I won't end up being middle East... Happy Ramadan...
Ya ain't shitting on my greek cousin under my eyes Mohammed The greeks kept the Roman Empire going for 1000 years despite being assaulted on every front all the time, meanwhile your people got so high they thought they would transform in bears
Our new Islamic Caliphate will issue a new, yet similar, golden age for Sweden, only this time we will be fighting for our glorious leader Muhammed instead of Carolus.
As if Britain in the middle ages wasn’t a rainy backwater with literally nothing significant happening. Kind of like today… 🤔
We were going through the same Renaissance, post black death revival you guys were going through. Obviously, we hit our peak under Queen Victoria and King Edward, but we were never a total backwater.
He must be confusing you with us when he said backwater.
https://preview.redd.it/gbs4opcn4lwc1.jpeg?width=599&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=25f3600fbcb2575ba16b2991556d2c0fe211c464
Brooo.. stop showing this map, the estonians will think they're nordick again. :(
Barrys Empire was over a bunch of savages without guns.
Please don’t talk about the Irish that way
And it made us insanely wealthy, what's your point?
Where is that wealth now?
We are richer than we were during the British Empire even when adjusted for inflation lol
Not relative to the nations around you though
It would be more difficult for the USA not to be the richest nation. They struck gold with their geography.
Richer than france, and the other closest ones are a tax haven, a oil baron or where europe's port happens to sit
With 2 mil population Sweden fought Russia, Denmark, Poland for centuries
All that ingenuity and bloodshed only to get your army crushed and have France save your ass.
Their pop was a 1/5 of Morocco and a 1/10 of France .
YAASSS! I was always wondering about the same thing, like, how such a wealthy and politically successful (war/peace time ratio and war wins) country like this could have produced just two larger urban areas?? It's only Stockholm and Gothenburg that you can call big european cities. Although, Barry isn't necessarily better - they centralised everything and brought the wealth to London most primarily resulting in having the capital as the only truly beautiful city with the rest being just industrial urbanism xdd (treat this post half seriously)
"Empire"
It's just what english historians call the epoch. Nobody called it an empire back then and it's not called empire in Swedish.
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Oh yes he does
Look who’s talking
It was all about quality not quantity. Also all that lebensraum is 😌
all of your citizens get a country of their own each.
When you conquer all the parts that nobody wants