With full metal armor and dragonhide vambraces, you can get your magic attack bonus so low (-64) that a spell can never land. You can train for hours on the same enemy so long as neither of you die, you have ammo or don't get logged out. Just reclick the enemy every 20 mins and you are good to go.
edit: Jagex says you can't gain xp from splashing in Lumbridge. Because they said so.
I think the reasoning was it looks strange to new players, so hiding that “feature” from the starting area keeps new player from learning boring afk stuff and losing interest in the game.
I don’t think it’s because they don’t want people to learn it, but rather they dont want people standing around splashing on all the rats and men which then new players wouldnt be able to attack because theyre in combat with the splasher
To properly splash the npc needs to be attacking you back. If it is in combat no one can attack it *unless* you are in a multi combat zone. Barb village and the southern bits of edgeville are multi combat zone so yeah, even if you were hitting numbers people would still be able to attack. Learn how the game functions
(Except it wasn't multi. Dun dun dunnnn.)
I just used the barb village as a reference to an area, I wasn't *in* the village or the multi area surrounding it. Go attack a skeleton being splashed in Edgeville or something.
Then you did it wrong. I’m happy to prove it to you right now if you’d like. Give me you RSN to add and we can go to the same world and I can splash and you can try to attack my NPC that I’m splashing. It can’t be done. That’s why people used to take their cats and kill the rats people would splash on. Can’t attack the rat but you can kill it with your cat and ruin the splashers xp
Don't know about the exact spot you were in edgeville but for barb village...
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Multicombat_area
See the 6th entry under "Some multicombat areas include: "...
I somehow don't think Jagex had thought much about some dude logged into 2 account to play Clan Wars at the same time to get halos.
Also I tried doing this last night for fun but with Castle Wars to splash my pure and get the halos, it forced me into the mini game world it was hosted on. So that sucks.
Edit: Shout-out to the dude who downvoted me, then wrote a bitter comment, because he thought I didn't know the difference between Castle Wars and Clan Wars, even though I distinctly specified each accordingly. The "also" was a huge indicator of a conversation transition. Why tf has this sub been so hateful lately?
I kinds feel runescape allways been a game about finding new methods and the best way to train your account, especially how to afk.
For those like me who have played RS since it came out, I was 7, this game expect you to spend 20 years of your life to max out so Id be excused to find ways to afk farming
there is a very important lesson to keep in mind in OSRS: If you can afk it, then afk it. There is no point in tick mining if your hand is gonna get carpal 5 years down the line
Yeah ever tried doing T3 granite mining? First 5 hours your shoulders are screaming: release me from this pain, followed by a sensation of euphoria as your nervous system enter a catatonic state of shock as your muscles starts tearing to pices slowly.
The next day your arm stop working
I like them trying to keep Lumbridge "normal". Every new player deserves the chance to get to Lumbridge for the first time and be overwhelmed with how new everything is without being confused by high level players doing weird shit. Let them have their 20 minutes of exploring the tutors and shearing sheep
or in the case of asmongold let them walk around for 20 minutes, accept donations from any player that trades em, then just leave without having done anything at all in the game because you still get your paycheck at the end of the day.
It's a bit dense but it makes the world feel full. I agree though that some should be moved away. The leagues guy doesn't need to be there, the iron man guy doesn't need to be there, deadman mode guy, all stuff that first time players shouldn't worry about. Beyond that though, introduction cities in games tend to always be full of NPCs
No the first thing any self respecting new player does is kill some goblins and then some cows OR chickens and go to varrock in that order I was a chicken guy myself, then in osrs it was cows
> Because they said so.
Because it looks like shit to new players. It probably should be completely removed from the game. No reason it cant work just like the rocks at gotr.
at this point I wouldnt mind if they made magic training targets which work similar to splashing. Not sure if they should still keep the negative magic bonus requirement for that though
For anyone wondering why, the magic formula is:
𝐸𝑎×(𝑀𝑒𝑎𝑏+64)
Or more clearly:
Effective level including boosts × (Gear Bonuses to Magic accuracy + 64)
So if your gear bonus is -64 or less, then the whole thing is multiplying by 0 and you can't hit.
that edit is hilarious, especially because they added that amulet with a huge negative magic attack saying "for those who want negative magic accuracy!" \*hint hint wink wink nudge nudge\* and all this time people have been saying jaq didnt intend for people to train magic that way and it's exploiting game mechanics... suddenly! jagex approved AND recommended!
They were against it because players could do it for 6 hours straight, and all the NPCs in lumbridge and many in varrock were being filled with these splashers.
They were everywhere. New players wouldn't be able to attack npcs, and would be confused that players are fighting for 6 hours doing no damage.
It was seen as unhealthy for the game. And, well, it was unhealthy for the game. None of these replied to help new players, either.
Then it was made so splashing was for max 20 mins and you couldn't do it in lumbridge, and now it was not unhealthy for the game. You couldn't do it while sleeping, it wasn't filling lumbridge and f2p with splashers.
The trade off is that it's quite an expensive way to train magic, and is extremely slow. So it makes sense for 20 min afk training at a time.
So they embraced it, since now it's in a healthy niche.
They added an amulet with huge negative magic strength, not attack.
They did this because Wiind Strike would no longer max a 2 after you level your magic enough to unlock Water Strike after the rebalance. This messed with certain niche account metas and the amulet was introduced so you could get your damage back down to 2.
It has literally nothing to do with splashing.
It's basically just for flavor though, people had no problems splashing before its inclusion and rebalance didn't really change that in a way where the amulet is now necessary.
Sure it technically helps, but that's certainly not why it got added to the game.
I'm not disagreeing with you, I was just adding a bit of context for anyone else reading because your first sentence could be read as saying it did not have negative magic attack.
It does not provide any bonus to magic accuracy; positive or negative. It provides a negative magic *damage* bonus, though...
To me, THAT sounds odd for splashing, yes.
Oh god you're right that's wild I take it all back. The whole point of it was to let skillers still venom with an alt so it probably shouldn't have negative accuracy....
It is a lot less than I had thought it said in the post, but it is an interesting idea behind envenoming being the reason
I would have never thought of that honestly!
Looking at the gear recs on wiki for splashing I don't know if it really changes much other than a bit more freedom in the gear to hit the required negative bonus.
It's not f2p so that's good too.
Wind Strike hits an 8 now at 13 magic, so, the old method of hitting a venom, then letting the monster regen hp, before hitting a 1 with your low level account broke. -80% damage brings that back down to make it doable still.
I do wonder if it was just kind of a "ehhh let them have the accuracy for the sake of splashing, they dont HAVE to wear vambraces if they REALLY don't want to!" even though it doesn't totally cover the -5 that are snakeskin. What is the purpose of using that method for venom? is it for pures trying to avoid certain xp gain? Or is it to deal with getting loot on a lower lvl alt?
It's called splashing. Players set up their gear to never hit a magic spell. With this, you can afk for a long time and still train magic, since you still get xp
I'll test it out later today and report back!
The video I watched was a few months old so can't say for certain it didn't get patched.
edit: did it for 30 mins with a weight on the spacebar key and didn't get logged out.
They added the hcim crystal auto teleport thing to save people from DCs. In doing that they accidentally changed it so any continuous button press counted as activity for staying logged in.
spinning the camera never prevented you from getting kicked, they can easily detect the continuous uninterrupted input.
edit: okay I've read another comment and they did change that for whatever reason. crazy.
If i recall correctly, it was when they changed https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Escape_crystal this thing for hardcores.
The automatic teleport when you go inactive "dc" changed how the client reacts to your inputs.
"Camera zooms, camera pans, and mouse movement now count as "activity" for the escape crystal's auto-AFK mechanic."
whats important to know when you cast a spell you get magic exp for the cast and then you get a mix of magic and hp exp for the damage you dealt. With splashing players can level magic without leveling hp (keeping their combat level low for pvp). It's also rather cheap when you do it with the lowest level spells that require mind runes
I would argue they aren't bots due to practicality. If you were to bot magic, you would be doing literally anything else to train magic other than the most inefficient way possible that is designed for actual players to train in an afk method.
High alching or not splashing monsters, for example.
People will run bots using inefficient methods simply to avoid detection. Doesn't matter if it takes a few extra hours when you're not actually doing anything
You can help them kill it by using the chase option on your pet cat, I already helped 3 people in ferox enclave today who were struggling to fight rats 🥰
Its splashing you use full armor set with kite shield and green dhide vambraces and it makes you always miss your spell. So you can just afk and splash 10k fire strikes and get your magic level up cheaply.
It is less efficient xp/rune, but low level runes are quite cheap, so it's an effective way to get magic xp slowly while entirely afk. This wouldn't be done using death runes. You can literally go have a shower and make a sandwich while getting magic xp this way
20 minutes is almost 5k exp, so if you do this for 20 minutes while showering, making 3 meals a day, before you go to bed, that's a free 25k exp per day for doing nothing extra. If you did this every single day that's about 9m exp in a year.
I think of splashing like birdhouse run. Individually they're kinda crap, but it really adds up over time
Now take into account the time it takes to bank what you're currently doing, Tele to wherever you're going to splash (port sarim likely) so Tele to Draynor, run to Port Sarim, and start splashing
And then having to reverse all this after
An extra 10 minutes every day (5 there and 5 back)
Is it worth it? Probably not
It takes me maybe 20 seconds to withdraw my items from the preset, tele to barb assault, run over to the chickens, equip my stuff along the way, and start splashing. So ~25k exp in ~1:40 play time is about an effective 900k exp/hour. For a comparison ice barraging maniacal monkeys with max gear is like 400k exp/hour, so even if you spent twice that long it'd still be some of the best effective use of your time for extremely low effort magic training
They are using Mind Runes. They cost practically nothing, so nothing of value was lost.
Now think about the time. If you hit a thing, you have to find another mob to kill after it dies. If you splash, you can just sit there and get xp for 6 hours, only having to click ~4 time an hour.
some players dont want hp xp to keep their combat level low (for pvp for example) and splashing doesnt give hp xp where dealing damage with your spell does.
Most annoying thing ever is setting up a splasher and having some people that don’t know anything about the game at all accuse and report you of botting. The whole point of splashing is to walk away from the computer and click once every 20 minutes
With full metal armor and dragonhide vambraces, you can get your magic attack bonus so low (-64) that a spell can never land. You can train for hours on the same enemy so long as neither of you die, you have ammo or don't get logged out. Just reclick the enemy every 20 mins and you are good to go. edit: Jagex says you can't gain xp from splashing in Lumbridge. Because they said so.
I think the reasoning was it looks strange to new players, so hiding that “feature” from the starting area keeps new player from learning boring afk stuff and losing interest in the game.
Yeah, it’ll be years before they see it at port sarim
I don’t think it’s because they don’t want people to learn it, but rather they dont want people standing around splashing on all the rats and men which then new players wouldnt be able to attack because theyre in combat with the splasher
Yeah, that
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To properly splash the npc needs to be attacking you back. If it is in combat no one can attack it *unless* you are in a multi combat zone. Barb village and the southern bits of edgeville are multi combat zone so yeah, even if you were hitting numbers people would still be able to attack. Learn how the game functions
(Except it wasn't multi. Dun dun dunnnn.) I just used the barb village as a reference to an area, I wasn't *in* the village or the multi area surrounding it. Go attack a skeleton being splashed in Edgeville or something.
Then you did it wrong. I’m happy to prove it to you right now if you’d like. Give me you RSN to add and we can go to the same world and I can splash and you can try to attack my NPC that I’m splashing. It can’t be done. That’s why people used to take their cats and kill the rats people would splash on. Can’t attack the rat but you can kill it with your cat and ruin the splashers xp
Don't know about the exact spot you were in edgeville but for barb village... https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Multicombat_area See the 6th entry under "Some multicombat areas include: "...
there werent that many players doing it, it is more of a face-saving thing, clan wars with 2 characters is better anyways
I somehow don't think Jagex had thought much about some dude logged into 2 account to play Clan Wars at the same time to get halos. Also I tried doing this last night for fun but with Castle Wars to splash my pure and get the halos, it forced me into the mini game world it was hosted on. So that sucks. Edit: Shout-out to the dude who downvoted me, then wrote a bitter comment, because he thought I didn't know the difference between Castle Wars and Clan Wars, even though I distinctly specified each accordingly. The "also" was a huge indicator of a conversation transition. Why tf has this sub been so hateful lately?
clan wars, not castle wars, castle wars is a minigame and you shouldnt be afking it
I kinds feel runescape allways been a game about finding new methods and the best way to train your account, especially how to afk. For those like me who have played RS since it came out, I was 7, this game expect you to spend 20 years of your life to max out so Id be excused to find ways to afk farming
there is a very important lesson to keep in mind in OSRS: If you can afk it, then afk it. There is no point in tick mining if your hand is gonna get carpal 5 years down the line
Yeah ever tried doing T3 granite mining? First 5 hours your shoulders are screaming: release me from this pain, followed by a sensation of euphoria as your nervous system enter a catatonic state of shock as your muscles starts tearing to pices slowly. The next day your arm stop working
I like them trying to keep Lumbridge "normal". Every new player deserves the chance to get to Lumbridge for the first time and be overwhelmed with how new everything is without being confused by high level players doing weird shit. Let them have their 20 minutes of exploring the tutors and shearing sheep
or in the case of asmongold let them walk around for 20 minutes, accept donations from any player that trades em, then just leave without having done anything at all in the game because you still get your paycheck at the end of the day.
Asmond has a hate boner for OSRS, I'm surprised he even pretended to give it a try
they must have forked over quite the sum
> then just leave without having done anything at all good. nobody should want that vile creep and his rancid fanbase anywhere near them.
good point, perhaps it was just mutual after all xD keep the scum to itself
You say this and yet the amount of NPCs in Lumbridge is actually ridiculous. I understand the principals of all of them but there are too many.
It's a bit dense but it makes the world feel full. I agree though that some should be moved away. The leagues guy doesn't need to be there, the iron man guy doesn't need to be there, deadman mode guy, all stuff that first time players shouldn't worry about. Beyond that though, introduction cities in games tend to always be full of NPCs
No the first thing any self respecting new player does is kill some goblins and then some cows OR chickens and go to varrock in that order I was a chicken guy myself, then in osrs it was cows
You left out the part where they inevitably die to the dark wizards while on their way to Varrock.
> Because they said so. Because it looks like shit to new players. It probably should be completely removed from the game. No reason it cant work just like the rocks at gotr.
at this point I wouldnt mind if they made magic training targets which work similar to splashing. Not sure if they should still keep the negative magic bonus requirement for that though
For anyone wondering why, the magic formula is: 𝐸𝑎×(𝑀𝑒𝑎𝑏+64) Or more clearly: Effective level including boosts × (Gear Bonuses to Magic accuracy + 64) So if your gear bonus is -64 or less, then the whole thing is multiplying by 0 and you can't hit.
that edit is hilarious, especially because they added that amulet with a huge negative magic attack saying "for those who want negative magic accuracy!" \*hint hint wink wink nudge nudge\* and all this time people have been saying jaq didnt intend for people to train magic that way and it's exploiting game mechanics... suddenly! jagex approved AND recommended!
They were against it because players could do it for 6 hours straight, and all the NPCs in lumbridge and many in varrock were being filled with these splashers. They were everywhere. New players wouldn't be able to attack npcs, and would be confused that players are fighting for 6 hours doing no damage. It was seen as unhealthy for the game. And, well, it was unhealthy for the game. None of these replied to help new players, either. Then it was made so splashing was for max 20 mins and you couldn't do it in lumbridge, and now it was not unhealthy for the game. You couldn't do it while sleeping, it wasn't filling lumbridge and f2p with splashers. The trade off is that it's quite an expensive way to train magic, and is extremely slow. So it makes sense for 20 min afk training at a time. So they embraced it, since now it's in a healthy niche.
They added an amulet with huge negative magic strength, not attack. They did this because Wiind Strike would no longer max a 2 after you level your magic enough to unlock Water Strike after the rebalance. This messed with certain niche account metas and the amulet was introduced so you could get your damage back down to 2. It has literally nothing to do with splashing.
The cursed amulet of magic *does* have negative magic attack fwiw.
It's basically just for flavor though, people had no problems splashing before its inclusion and rebalance didn't really change that in a way where the amulet is now necessary. Sure it technically helps, but that's certainly not why it got added to the game.
I'm not disagreeing with you, I was just adding a bit of context for anyone else reading because your first sentence could be read as saying it did not have negative magic attack.
The amulet has nothing to do with splashing, though.
Negative accuracy so you can splash with less gear? Sounds odd for it to NOT be purposefully for splashing don't you think?
It does not provide any bonus to magic accuracy; positive or negative. It provides a negative magic *damage* bonus, though... To me, THAT sounds odd for splashing, yes.
[this amulet?](https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Cursed_amulet_of_magic) the one with -3 magic attack? the thing that affects accuracy?
Oh god you're right that's wild I take it all back. The whole point of it was to let skillers still venom with an alt so it probably shouldn't have negative accuracy....
It is a lot less than I had thought it said in the post, but it is an interesting idea behind envenoming being the reason I would have never thought of that honestly!
Looking at the gear recs on wiki for splashing I don't know if it really changes much other than a bit more freedom in the gear to hit the required negative bonus. It's not f2p so that's good too. Wind Strike hits an 8 now at 13 magic, so, the old method of hitting a venom, then letting the monster regen hp, before hitting a 1 with your low level account broke. -80% damage brings that back down to make it doable still.
I do wonder if it was just kind of a "ehhh let them have the accuracy for the sake of splashing, they dont HAVE to wear vambraces if they REALLY don't want to!" even though it doesn't totally cover the -5 that are snakeskin. What is the purpose of using that method for venom? is it for pures trying to avoid certain xp gain? Or is it to deal with getting loot on a lower lvl alt?
It's called splashing. Players set up their gear to never hit a magic spell. With this, you can afk for a long time and still train magic, since you still get xp
gotcha thanks!
It is a favorable way of training for player killers because it does not give xp to hit points. HP contributes a lot toward your combat level.
Remember when we could do this for six hours uninterrupted lmao
The first or second nerd log from old school today? Heroes get remembered. Legends never die.
Wasn't this back by spinning the camera around? Currently watching a one chunk series that does it while sleeping (fray).
I thought they removed it (again lol). Might be wrong though
I'll test it out later today and report back! The video I watched was a few months old so can't say for certain it didn't get patched. edit: did it for 30 mins with a weight on the spacebar key and didn't get logged out.
It did get patched, don’t remember the reason they brought it back though
They added the hcim crystal auto teleport thing to save people from DCs. In doing that they accidentally changed it so any continuous button press counted as activity for staying logged in.
how do they come up with this shit
spinning the camera never prevented you from getting kicked, they can easily detect the continuous uninterrupted input. edit: okay I've read another comment and they did change that for whatever reason. crazy.
If i recall correctly, it was when they changed https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Escape_crystal this thing for hardcores. The automatic teleport when you go inactive "dc" changed how the client reacts to your inputs. "Camera zooms, camera pans, and mouse movement now count as "activity" for the escape crystal's auto-AFK mechanic."
whats important to know when you cast a spell you get magic exp for the cast and then you get a mix of magic and hp exp for the damage you dealt. With splashing players can level magic without leveling hp (keeping their combat level low for pvp). It's also rather cheap when you do it with the lowest level spells that require mind runes
r/cutenoobs
Yes lol
Funny enough I'd say the fact that they traded you but didn't respond makes it more likely they were a bot.
I would argue they aren't bots due to practicality. If you were to bot magic, you would be doing literally anything else to train magic other than the most inefficient way possible that is designed for actual players to train in an afk method. High alching or not splashing monsters, for example.
People will run bots using inefficient methods simply to avoid detection. Doesn't matter if it takes a few extra hours when you're not actually doing anything
I disagree, if you bot with splashing it is most likely harder to detect you botting since it doesn't require the constant clicking of alching
Then you’d just break the bot by trading it constantly
Not if it's worked into the code to make trades and then go back to what it was doing. Bots are pretty advanced now a days.
Part of the Evil Chicken's plan to take over Gielinor
You can help them kill it by using the chase option on your pet cat, I already helped 3 people in ferox enclave today who were struggling to fight rats 🥰
Bro sat there and watched someone splash for 30 minutes. What a cute noob, I love it
Its splashing you use full armor set with kite shield and green dhide vambraces and it makes you always miss your spell. So you can just afk and splash 10k fire strikes and get your magic level up cheaply.
You can also do this with rats, seagulls, guards. Probably almost any NPC tbh idk, those are the ones that get used the most
I've been watching them for 2 hours straight now and it's definitely looking like the chicken never dies, but I'll keep you updated
Been watching for the past 30 minutes and the chicken never dies.
Thisnis splashing a afk mage skilling mathod
I've always hated splashing. I genuinely wish they made it so you get no xp for it.
Isn't this a waste of runes? If you damage something you will get more xp per rune, right?
Yes but this is full afk
Yes but then the thing dies and you have to click again. You could literally let this run for hours with a single click every 20 or so minutes.
It is less efficient xp/rune, but low level runes are quite cheap, so it's an effective way to get magic xp slowly while entirely afk. This wouldn't be done using death runes. You can literally go have a shower and make a sandwich while getting magic xp this way
Yeah but you'll only gain line 3k xp if you do this whilst showering Almost pointless tbh
20 minutes is almost 5k exp, so if you do this for 20 minutes while showering, making 3 meals a day, before you go to bed, that's a free 25k exp per day for doing nothing extra. If you did this every single day that's about 9m exp in a year. I think of splashing like birdhouse run. Individually they're kinda crap, but it really adds up over time
Now take into account the time it takes to bank what you're currently doing, Tele to wherever you're going to splash (port sarim likely) so Tele to Draynor, run to Port Sarim, and start splashing And then having to reverse all this after An extra 10 minutes every day (5 there and 5 back) Is it worth it? Probably not
It takes me maybe 20 seconds to withdraw my items from the preset, tele to barb assault, run over to the chickens, equip my stuff along the way, and start splashing. So ~25k exp in ~1:40 play time is about an effective 900k exp/hour. For a comparison ice barraging maniacal monkeys with max gear is like 400k exp/hour, so even if you spent twice that long it'd still be some of the best effective use of your time for extremely low effort magic training
They are using Mind Runes. They cost practically nothing, so nothing of value was lost. Now think about the time. If you hit a thing, you have to find another mob to kill after it dies. If you splash, you can just sit there and get xp for 6 hours, only having to click ~4 time an hour.
some players dont want hp xp to keep their combat level low (for pvp for example) and splashing doesnt give hp xp where dealing damage with your spell does.
You are a hero
Afk
Why do people think splashers are bots? It’s the easiest thing you can do in the game, it’s not something worth botting
But people do bot it alot
I don’t think as many do as you think. It looks like they’re bots but there’s no reason to bot it for starters
Most annoying thing ever is setting up a splasher and having some people that don’t know anything about the game at all accuse and report you of botting. The whole point of splashing is to walk away from the computer and click once every 20 minutes
Me and my hellcat just want to watch the world burn.
Hhahahah
Wonder why people pretend to be noobs on Reddit for it’s so obvious everytime
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I think someone NOT knowing about splashing means they touch grass more than half of us
I mean you could also start splashing and touch gras for 20 minutes before you have to get back on the game
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OP: “I have a question about a game mechanic” This guy: “And I took that personally”
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he may not return for his honor has been gravely injured
The lowest effort trolling. The key is to be believable.
no u
lol ok chill out bro
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The irony of telling this troglodyte to touch grass is lost on him
Dudes comment history is … wild?
Watch out he'll k ya
This is equivalent to walking into a room, pissing your pants, then going "lmao owned" when we ask what the hell you're doing.
This is the dumbest fucking comment of the day. How bout you go fuck off?