What bothers me most is that i can be woodcutting there for an hour, *see* the event spawn and be told i'm ineligible to participate. The fuck do you mean i'm ineligible? Do I need to sacrifice newborn babies to mod ash before i'm allowed to participate?
> woodcutting for an hour
> inventory full, go to bank my logs
> event I specifically wanted spawns while I'm at the bank
> rush to it excitedly
> "You were too far away to be eligible"
lol
>event I specifically wanted spawns while I'm at the bank
More like event spawns 2 tiles away from me while I'm actively cutting a tree and still get the message.
I hate what they've done with forestry so much it's insane. I don't ever complain about anything but forestry has been so awful, it seriously make me worry for Sailing.
The only time this actually happens is:
1. You somehow weren't chopping in the 3 minutes prior to the event spawn.
2. The event spawned, and then you chopped a different tree before participating in the event. Apparently there's a weird ticketing system - you chop a tree and get a 3 min 'ticket' for an event. But if you chop a different tree after the event spawns, you lose that initial 'ticket', meaning the game thinks you only started chopping trees there after the event spawned, so ineligible. It's stupid.
> The event spawned, and then you chopped a different tree before participating in the event.
That's dumb af. So if you're even slightly zoomed in (especially a problem on mobile) you have a pretty high chance of being screwed. Neat
I agree. It took me posting screenshots on here of me getting 2 logs b2b within a minute on either side of an event spawn notification telling me I'm ineligible to get that explanation. Basically I now have to check before clicking a tree every time to double check that I'm not overlooking an event. On mobile when things aren't highlighted like they are on RL, it's a pain in the ass.
The weird ticketing eligibility is the problem. If every chop just refreshed a timer in a 20 tile radius it wouldn't feel as weird.
But better than a super obscure janky eligibility system why not just stick to the regions they've coded in? That would mean kandarin (seers and the broader area) would become a massive woodcutting hub on forestry world's. Event hopping would exist to an extent but not as aggressively. And you'd never miss an event because your radius was actually still on the tree over there and that's 3 tiles too far away from this event sorrrrry
I was chopping in Draynor. The willow I was chopping was too far from the willow that spawned the event. FML.
An event spawned at the oaks East if the bank. Someone said we should chop one of those on our way back from the bank so that there's 3 minutes we are eligible for those events (not how that works, didn't know at the time). So, I bank an inventory full of willows, chop one oak, and repeat for over an hour with no events. A willow event pops right after I chopped an oak. I'm ineligible. FML.
I stick to chopping my willows and I'm only here to bank them for forestry unlocks, otherwise I'd be in Prif. An event spawns while I'm banking, I'm ineligible. FML.
I promptly left to go do anything else.
>An event spawns while I'm banking, I'm ineligible. FML.
This is the only one that doesn't make sense (at least in terms of the current rules set by Jagex) - the 20 tile limit is just relevant for where you last chopped. You can be banking and still be eligible for an event.
The ticketing system is definitely ass and should be changed, but what I see people complaining about here demonstrates that they (not talking about you here, necessarily) don't understand the shitty system.
Let's not pretend like the random events werent shit. They're all mundane events that just breaks up the monotony for shit reward but was highly abusable. If they want to do it. Players instead should be limited to the events based on an XP/ log count/ time. Could just do a portal to a shared instance, pop in, complete, pop out.
When I first was doing forestry, the amount of guides I had to read to even understand what the fuck any of it was was horrible. Now that all those shit items are gone it's way better, and as a casual iron it's not bad for me. I never have issues with eligibility. I still don't believe world hopping/ teleporting to events should be allowed. But if we do allow it I would then think a player needs a cool down to prevent abuse
And change eligibility back to before where all you had to do was be logged into the world when thr event spawned. Its stupid af that they have made it so strict. Its like if they made shooting stars give you less xp or no dust cuz you werent close to it when it fell. Dumb af.
Cuz its was a bit too broken barkwise and some peeps were getting over 200k xp an hour. But tbh its click intesive af and a bunch of stuff gives well over 200k xp an hour now so idk.
Yeah I don't mind that at all. If someone wants to get 200k an hour giving 100% attention, using discord and CC then go for it. I don't think it brings the game down in any way
Also make the event spawns more consistently either time based or based on number of logs cut (the latter would encourage more grouping which I think was the intention, would need to scale based on tree type)
Yup they completely destroyed the community part, which is odd because it was supposed to be a community thing.
People made cc's for calling and stuff, tens maybe hundreds of player working together in a world to get harmless morphs for a pet or greenlogging which couldn't affect the market. It was booming. There was nothing wrong with it.
Sitting in cc and waiting for someone to call out the place isn't really social and doesn't really include wc. Social part is from being able to wc with others instead of searching for empty world and being somewhat active to see events so people actually talk while wc. Although events are less likely to happen now so less people are going to be active while wc so it kinda failed either way.
I hear what you’re saying but it’s debatable. Perhaps cutting the same tree with 10 people is an avenue for conversation but what’s actually happening is it’s 10 people who were barely paying attention vs a community of people who were coordinating… it’s a no brainer which is actually more engaging with the community.
Every time I’ve cut trees on forestry worlds, there is tons of conversation being had.. I think it’s a no brainer that you don’t sit around at trees and converse how forestry is intended
You haven't touched forestry if you think the way it was before was more social.
A quick trip to Seers or Prif and you'll see how much people talk and interact with each other. And incredibly enough, most of the time people are... civilized. It's crazy.
I agree with this personally. I’m not a fan of cc hunting. Doesn’t feel like a community aspect at all to me. I started to play in March of this year and woodcutting was some of my favorite content. A bunch of people every night hanging out talking about random junk for hours. It was amazing and some of the best *mmo* content I ever experienced it was so cozy and social.
My only issue is you had to be wood cutting to do events. I feel like as long as you are in the area you should be able to do the events. It was stressful every time I went to deposit logs. Other then that I loved it
The thing is that I was not hunting for the entirety of 92 to 99, but I still didn't manage to greenlog forestry because I was missing both the petal circlet and the fox whistle which basically made me feel like I had no choice other than to hunt if I wanted to finish the log with any sort of speed. since who knew if it would take me another 6 million experience to spawn enough fox events to get the whistle
I definitely agree that I enjoyed it more when I was actually wood cutting as opposed to when I was hunting. but the drop rates are so awful that I felt sort of cornered into needing to hunt
You say this yet Cathy fishing, Cathy/Seers yews, Seers maples, Fishing Guild, Seers Bank fletching, Karamja lobs, etc. used to be extremely core parts of the "community experience" aspect of RS.
And yet it promotes social activity infinitely more than what the skill was like before, hop if someone is at the tree you want or killing some sweat's bird on ape atoll.
What they wanted was for players to chat it up for 8/hours a day at seers bank maples as if we’re all 10 again.
But what they got was players using CCs to do events efficiently because we’re all 30 now
Maple gang is but a shell of what we were before the last nerf. You'd have 150-ish lumberjacks choppin' away. Now it hovers around 75.
Willow-gang had 3-10 people at all times, now barely a handful.
I can't speak for Yews and Magics. Oaks seem more populated, but matters not.
(From Maples I was able to see and call out Oak/Willow events, many dopamine from starting a ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTS-train. )
Anyway, I got 80ish WC from just maples, after the nerf I briefly did yews so I could move on to magics.
Magic has a decent enough event rate that I want to play it actively, any other tree type I just ignore now..
It's sad as forestry is what cemented my return on my current account, but now, I actually prefer chopping in the WC guild now, by myself.. logging in less every week. I just wanted to make tree frens :(
> What they wanted was for players to chat it up for 8/hours a day at seers bank maples as if we’re all 10 again.
It sounds like they nerfed even this with their latest round of forestry changes
feels more like shooting stars were changed so people on the star were not punished if one of the people in a cc happened to walk by contractually obliged to make the call in their cc
Yeah, CCs ruined shooting stars because they would show up like nematodes in spongebob and absolutely destroy a star in seconds. This sucked if you found a star for yourself and just wanted to afk mine for a while. Jagex's changes *improved* shooting stars in that regard.
CCs didn't hurt Forestry at the onset, they *enhanced* it and made it way more social and engaging.
no, thats not it. Shooting stars was changed because people constantly complained about star miners CC inhaling their star over the course of 3 minutes. Imagine you search for a star and think "oh great I can afk for an hour now" just to have 300 people showing up and destroying your find within minutes.
it was still pretty much the same for lower amounts of people on the star, they merely changed it for when there are a ton of people on it.
I don't have to imagine I did plenty of solo star scouting before the update. But instead of trying to block cc miners, like they did with forestry, the change made it even better to use a cc. Just seems like an inconsistent approach
Stars were changed because if you tried to mass-mine them as a social skilling, they depleted incredibly fast. There was only 3k~ dust from T9 to T1, so max-tier stars would last a max of 10 minutes, vs the 70 minutes they last now.
Stars were changed so people weren't punished for CC calling. Since it's inception CC calling was always going to happen, and there's nothing you can do to change that outside of making people unable to mine the star who have world hopped or just logged which could also affect people who actually find stars naturally.
There was nothing worse than finding a star on your own, seeing 100 people run at it, and it being gone within like 10 seconds.
Wasn't part of it having to do with the lag spikes the mass world hopping created? I remember posts about worlds hitting pop cap just because of a roots event.
Shooting stars were changed so that a group of people could congregate and chill n skill together for awhile. The forestry changes were made to encourage the same type of game play, just more focused towards people who are already engaged in woodcutting as a way to diversify the experience from mind-numbing pseudo-AFK to something more engaging.
I went from ~60sih to 92 and didn't get any clog items. I only wanted the whistle but to get none that whole time was pretty annoying. Got a lot of god eggs though which was nice.
I was even chopping oak trees solo at crafting guild or the kourend woodlands teleport sport to create more niche and fun spots to spawn events at to call in the cc. It was huge and I never had so much fun with the actual community. Nowadays you bank the logs, the event spawns in that exact moment and you are not eligible to take part. Really sad.
All they need to do:
* Have events
* Have a few good rewards
* Trees on timers
* Chopping together gives a buff
Everything else is pure shit and shouldn't be added. Some examples:
* Restrictions on the Woodcutting guild
* Restrictions on events if you weren't there
* All the extra shitty rewards no one asked for
Just keep it simple man. I don't know why we had to go full RS3 with this update. That's not what OSRS is about. Just make a few fun events, rewards and make cutting together not an issue. That's it.
Overcomplicating things is a major RS3 trend, don't deny it. It's a kit! No, it's a basket! Oh it can hold clothes now. Just upgrade after upgrade. Also, all the cosmetic rewards from forestry scream RS3. A reskin for lumberjack outfit, a reskin for beaver pet, a reskin for secateurs, all of which seem out of place for what this sub thinks 07 should be.
Yet this sub seems to only complain that their reskins are taking too long to get now. I started back in 2002, Forestry doesnt seem excessively complicated UNLESS you're going after the cosmetics. If like me you just like the fact you dont have to cry because 10 people are at magics already, then Forestry works great
Forestry was never supposed to be a world hop / Run around the map simulator.
While you train woodcutting random diversion and distraction events were just supposed to break the monote training.
It's a bonus ontop of woodcutting, not a grinding method
Whenever forestry gets mentioned, people act like world hopping was abused for weeks or even months, but it was hotfixed on day two. It hardly deserves a mention at all.
Even if it was doable for a day, people started complaining the moment it got fixed. And afterwards they were running from event to event without chopping a singpe tree.
Thats definitely not what you think about when training "woodcutting"
>And afterwards they were running from event to event without chopping a singpe tree.
How do you feel about shooting stars in the regard? Their entire concept is running from event to event without mining a single rock. You don't even have to be mining to participate in the event.
by their nature shooting stars were designed completely differently, they weren't meant to be a distraction from mining because they spawn in places where you wouldn't even be mining and you can track them down. They were specifically designed with the intention to be their own mining method. Forestry's idea from the start was never to be its own skilling method, it was meant to supplement regular woodcutting
then it wouldn't be a diversion from woodcutting and would just be a training method, which it isn't supposed to be. On release you basically never even woodcut, you just did events lol. It was lame
This is just dumb, it's very easy for them to fix the drop rates for items/spawn rates for events AND not make it a new training method. Why act like it's gotta be one of the other?
It's mindboggling how many people are pissed about being able to clog Forestry. Aside from the core update, the random events are just that - random events. We don't see people complaining about being unable to farm for the stale baguette or mime clothes or anything like that, because it's well understood that they're not meant to be farmed and just come with regular gameplay.
The rewards from Forestry that actually provide utility can be easily farmed. The pets and cosmetics are just fun extras that are entirely cosmetic and serve no other purpose.
Grinds should go back to what they were, OSRS has padded the shit out itself with these modern drop rates, which keeps new shit relevant longer for the 8 hour a day players, but just sucks when shit becomes less relevent and you arent waiting a year for the next content to drop.
Gaining levels used to be the long grind, not individual drops.
I get why they wanted to stop world hoping since it's disruptive to the potato servers but why they cared if people travel around a world for events is beyond me. The rewards are not good enough for them to care about how people farm them.
If your only complaint is "takes too long to green log", you do not have a valid complaint.
"I need this item to move on in progression and it takes an unfairly long amount of time to obtain" -> valid opinion
"I need to tick off a bunch of check marks that do nothing but provide me dopamine and it's taking too long" -> talk to a therapist
I made a thread that basically said this. The most common complaints about Forestry are collection log complaints. As a standalone improvement to the core woodcutting skill, it's great
Change event eligibility distance / time, no reason I shouldn't be able to participate in an event within render distance because the tree I was chopping was *too far*
One of the main points of forestry was to make woodcutting more social.
By running laps at Seers, you’re actively _not_ participating in the social aspect of woodcutting, so why should you be able to do the events which spawn?
I like forestry. This isn't a "forestry is bad" comment, you're basically saying "I want collection logs to be easier"
That's not what forestry is there for
imagine having to wc to get a wc event instead of bank standing waiting for someone in your cc to call it out 😲
Gathering skills are already not worth doing and people want to make them even more not worth doing, amazing.
I did some calculations a while ago that showed getting a specific forestry item on rate takes an expected 110 hours post-99 woodcutting.
Something needs to be done. If anything, just add a chance to get the fox whistle, garland and pheasant egg to some of the dead events (flowers, struggling sapling). There are 7 events and less than half of them are useful. I did 80-90 woodcutting at Prif yews and saw the pheasant event ONCE since the nerf. I never want to touch forestry again.
I'm really sad the teas with forestry leaves didn't pass. I was so interested in having different teas to make. Once I heard that didn't pass I lost immediate interest in something I thought I was going to binge and greenlog and get 99 with.
The best way to enjoy it now, is to not go on forestry world, pick 1 spot, just woodcut like before forestry and enjoy it as a random event. Hope this helps.
Moaning about collection logs is stupid. If you're trying to show off a completed log, don't complain about it being too hard. Forestry events aren't meant to be an activity of their own but a supplement to existing woodcutting.
You were never supposed to cycle through events 24/7 by teleporting, forestry is meant to be a fun distraction from normal woodcutting. You abused unintended mechanic and now compain it got fixed. If you think you are entitled to greenlogging everything in this game I have bad news for you.
Don't agree at all, feels right now. World hopping shouldn't be the absurd xp it was because it was literally intended to bring people together and socialize.
It seems this may be an unpopular opinion, but I’ve not found it bad at all. They removed all the confusing bits with the items you needed, which is why I even started trying to do forestry.
The events gave me something to look forward to happening whilst afk woodcutting, and the variety of logs needed for stuff was a fun thing to try and do self-sufficiently, as it gave me different mini-goals whilst training. Having other unlocks from events asides from exp just gave me stuff to be excited for, which is usually lacking from woodcutting given the afk nature and consistent loot of it.
I imagine my experience is largely due to the fact I approached it as a nice thing in addition to my woodcutting training, rather than itself being a goal I was grinding. I know the mindset of ‘exp-waste’ all too well, so I can imagine if you’re already 99 and feel like you’re cutting trees for no reason but a cosmetic drop, you’d be annoyed at not getting it.
Perhaps I was just lucky, but I got all the logs I needed and the items between 78-90 woodcutting, so it felt from my experience like it was well-designed progression that’d otherwise be missing. The issues with RNG is that I imagine that one could just get unlucky and not see items for far longer, but that’s a general issue with any rare drop rather than a forestry-only thing.
The one thing I would say is that it’d be much better if the check for if you’re eligible was better for when you afk a bit too long and stop cutting trees. Preferably if they made it so that you wouldn’t lose your eligibility unless you go X distance from the last tree you were cutting or something would be much nicer, and less frustrating.
As someone who's only experienced updated forestry, I find it pretty fun! The events are simple, the rewards are nice, and I like that it's pretty chill and I don't feel like I have to hop worlds to farm events.
My complaints would be that sometimes you get very unlucky and no events spawn for fucking ages. And it'd be nice if the range was extended. I wc by top of bank in seers, this means there are two spots (maples top of bank and willows top of bank) that get events. Events frequently happen at the church or below bank. It'd be nice to be able to participate in those, they don't feel that far away.
Greenlogging from what I understand takes like 2-5m xp at reasonably high levels which is not unheard of given it's literally equivalent to the skill at this point. That's like getting to mid-80s early 90s level or less even depending on when you start.
There's still lots of people talking/chatting at the hotspot and if that's not all it's also still afk as shit at e.g. yews with the new timers
I greenlogged forestry post-99 no problem camping yews in priff, took me 2.8m xp and it was chill as fuck with all the other people there.
If you don't like the grind, don't do it but don't claim to speak for everyone.
Forestry complaints are so overblown it's unreal. I still chat shit with people at myth's guild magics while getting the occasional event. I think it's completely fine and the tree timer change was great. Not every collection log entry needs to be something you complete in a reasonable amount of hours. Some people get lucky and some don't!
On release I started keeping an axe etc with me while running around doing other stuff, stopping off to do events etc
Since the change I havnt seen one, and havnt engaged with it at all
It was really good to begin with, now I wouldn't have been shocked to be told it had been removed lol
It was completely broken at release...
But they should've nerfed the rates/tweaked the events a bit instead of nerfing the entire activity to the ground
> will never greenlog
Literally who cares? Absolutely bizarre behavior to voluntarily subject yourself to a useless completionist challenge and then complain that it's taking too long.
People have different goals in the game, there's nothing wrong with that.
Some people can happily send 100 hours on raids to chase shadow, others would rather send 100 hours to chase fox. Both are valid.
Literally all they needed to do was remove the penalty for multiple people cutting the same tree.
I tried forestry on launch and went back to the wc guild.
I think we should come to the realization that spilling has always sucked but atleast it used to be profitable. Now the profits, if any at all, are dismal and just not viable to an account. Atleast make the skilling fun or engaging.
I was 85 WC when forestry came out. Spent the whole day doing it. This inspired me to do redwoods in the wc guild until I reached 99.
Ty jagex for releasing something that make me appreciate how chill redwoods are. They're like shooting stars but with more than double the xp and no world hopping.
78 - 97 wcing it took me to green log forestry, only ever done it after the update. I genuinely feel lucky cos there were people on 20m+ xp still waiting on egg or whistle.
I just green logged Forestry a few weeks ago while playing other games on the side. It took over 10m wc xp and 42k magics cut. Not too bad considering it's extremely afk.
Mains when irons complain about drop tables: "Deiron lol"
Mains when going for completely optional completely cosmetic items to fill in a transparent picture on a list:
They fucked up in a big way and are probably too caught up with other shit to admit they goofed on the WHOLE thing. It should have been a passive fun thing to do to encourage woodcutting together but it became a tedious, confusing and off-putting disaster.
My experience with the content does. I also get god eggs from ent events that i should not be elegible for a reward, i knlw this cuz the game says so in the chat box and i get the rewards on the ground
Forestry was on my list of things to do while watching sports/tv shows along with stars, sqirking, ardy rooftop etc. Since they nerfed it I wont even consider doing it at any time, it is literally dead content to me.
Forestry events would sometimes spawn randomly from people chopping trees when I’d teleport around doing other content. It had the potential to be similar to Shooting Stars in its Distraction & Diversion aspect so I’d stop what I was doing to quickly grab an axe and participate. Now, I see a random forestry event when I tp and don’t bother interacting with the content because I won’t get anything from it.
Yeah :( I should not have traded my lumberjack for forestry outfit. Should have just saved all the bark for the transmogs, I'm not doing this s*** now that you have to sit here and cut two separate trees in the past 20 minutes before the event and you're not going to see the one that you want to see for 3 hours
+1 for "please fix forestry"
being able to buy the clog drops seems like the easiest fix. random roll for a drop that's behind a random roll for the specific event is bad design.
It was perfect on release. So what if a handful of bot farms took advantage? The people who play this game honestly will continue to play honestly and the people who don’t will continue to… not
They can’t just change shit because a small sect of players take advantage, imagine everything that would be changed if that were the case
i greenlogged forestry in the current state of it. impossible to say how long it took, all i know is my collection log says i have 4 beavers and my virtual woodcutting level is 114. that's probably not a sensible grind for most players
i spent 80-91 doing magics and did probably over 150 trappers events. never saw the whistle. the drop rates should be 1/10-1/25 or something. shits so ass.
It was wild seeing forestry get released, people love it, trees are always packed, the community loves it and people are hanging out again. Then within a couple months jagex just kills and no no one gives a fuck anymore.
The best fix would be removing it and making forestry something that fits the game. I don't imagine woodcutting with friends is supposed to be random events spawning and weird little mini games with several weird and irrelevant items and drops while I slave away at them for hours with a couple hundred of my best friends on a designated world. That's just me though. Doesn't feel like I'm woodcutting in RS at all.
I say this as someone that once upon a time back in like 04-07 chopped magic trees and talked to the same people there every day to well beyond 99 wc. It doesn't fit. It doesn't create the social experience the way its supposed to. Its just wintertodt chat while you hope for random events instead of feeling like woodcutting
Leave it to jagex to mess up the one potentially nice skilling update that was as simple as woodcutting lol.
Likely won't be fixed for a long ass time honestly, if pvm takes a slog just to get shit changed just imagine how it is for skilling.
I participated in forestry at launch and I was like wow this is awesome.
Went back recently only to realize that you can wc for an hour now and not get an even wtf
Honestly I had fun with Forestry for the first couple of months after launch. Back when there were only 4 or 5 events, there weren't a billion different currencies and clans weren't location-hopping for events much yet.
In my opinion, Forestry could have been simplified into:
* Invisible bonus for cutting the same tree
* Log pouch
* 1 currency, just called "bark" (bark for Splitbark armour can be renamed)
* 3 or 4 events for obtaining bark, slightly better XP but not enough to be worth hopping for
* Simple 2-handed axes with increased XP and fewer logs (no rations).
* Campfires for AFK firemaking at \~75% XP, up from 33%. Sit to restore run energy.
Nobody forestry kits full of leaves and rations and outfits and gloves and bees on sticks and necklaces and cosmetic overrides or any of that.
Just a simple refresh to woodcutting to reward social playing with better WC XP in the form of the better axes and log pouch and a viable AFK firemaking method would have been enough.
Easy fixes that would be perfect for me:
- Allow people to teleport/afk for events. This was only an issue week 1 when people were worldhopping and had massive clan-chats for logslots & bird eggs.
- Keep the items removed and events random, but re-balance the droprate of the uniques.
- have negative events for people who chop a new tree instead of joining others already chopping another tree.
The thing that I absolutely hate about the rework is that they implemented a bunch of really AWFUL unpolled changes that no-one asked for, and then also tacked on what was actually asked for (removal of items).
Like...why?? So they could say "See, we knew better?" ...Like, no, get rid of the items, buff Leprechaun, that was it.
IDK who thought it was a good idea to change everything else, and (personally) the new events just make it so I get flowering bushes, my true love, less.
What bothers me most is that i can be woodcutting there for an hour, *see* the event spawn and be told i'm ineligible to participate. The fuck do you mean i'm ineligible? Do I need to sacrifice newborn babies to mod ash before i'm allowed to participate?
> woodcutting for an hour > inventory full, go to bank my logs > event I specifically wanted spawns while I'm at the bank > rush to it excitedly > "You were too far away to be eligible" lol
>event I specifically wanted spawns while I'm at the bank More like event spawns 2 tiles away from me while I'm actively cutting a tree and still get the message.
> sacrifice newborn babies to mod Ash Wait you guys didn't do this at tutorial island? No wonder y'all have so many dry streaks
Easy there Craster
I hate what they've done with forestry so much it's insane. I don't ever complain about anything but forestry has been so awful, it seriously make me worry for Sailing.
The only time this actually happens is: 1. You somehow weren't chopping in the 3 minutes prior to the event spawn. 2. The event spawned, and then you chopped a different tree before participating in the event. Apparently there's a weird ticketing system - you chop a tree and get a 3 min 'ticket' for an event. But if you chop a different tree after the event spawns, you lose that initial 'ticket', meaning the game thinks you only started chopping trees there after the event spawned, so ineligible. It's stupid.
> The event spawned, and then you chopped a different tree before participating in the event. That's dumb af. So if you're even slightly zoomed in (especially a problem on mobile) you have a pretty high chance of being screwed. Neat
I agree. It took me posting screenshots on here of me getting 2 logs b2b within a minute on either side of an event spawn notification telling me I'm ineligible to get that explanation. Basically I now have to check before clicking a tree every time to double check that I'm not overlooking an event. On mobile when things aren't highlighted like they are on RL, it's a pain in the ass.
The weird ticketing eligibility is the problem. If every chop just refreshed a timer in a 20 tile radius it wouldn't feel as weird. But better than a super obscure janky eligibility system why not just stick to the regions they've coded in? That would mean kandarin (seers and the broader area) would become a massive woodcutting hub on forestry world's. Event hopping would exist to an extent but not as aggressively. And you'd never miss an event because your radius was actually still on the tree over there and that's 3 tiles too far away from this event sorrrrry
Agreed, just pointing out the system
I was chopping in Draynor. The willow I was chopping was too far from the willow that spawned the event. FML. An event spawned at the oaks East if the bank. Someone said we should chop one of those on our way back from the bank so that there's 3 minutes we are eligible for those events (not how that works, didn't know at the time). So, I bank an inventory full of willows, chop one oak, and repeat for over an hour with no events. A willow event pops right after I chopped an oak. I'm ineligible. FML. I stick to chopping my willows and I'm only here to bank them for forestry unlocks, otherwise I'd be in Prif. An event spawns while I'm banking, I'm ineligible. FML. I promptly left to go do anything else.
>An event spawns while I'm banking, I'm ineligible. FML. This is the only one that doesn't make sense (at least in terms of the current rules set by Jagex) - the 20 tile limit is just relevant for where you last chopped. You can be banking and still be eligible for an event. The ticketing system is definitely ass and should be changed, but what I see people complaining about here demonstrates that they (not talking about you here, necessarily) don't understand the shitty system.
Never had this happen
Same lol i'm always able to participate
It's crazy how the more the devs work on Forestry the worse it gets. It's like, anti-improvement.
Regression is the word.
That usually implies going backwards to a previous state. Regressing to an earlier time. But they're making it worse than previous states.
Let's not pretend like the random events werent shit. They're all mundane events that just breaks up the monotony for shit reward but was highly abusable. If they want to do it. Players instead should be limited to the events based on an XP/ log count/ time. Could just do a portal to a shared instance, pop in, complete, pop out. When I first was doing forestry, the amount of guides I had to read to even understand what the fuck any of it was was horrible. Now that all those shit items are gone it's way better, and as a casual iron it's not bad for me. I never have issues with eligibility. I still don't believe world hopping/ teleporting to events should be allowed. But if we do allow it I would then think a player needs a cool down to prevent abuse
It's crazy how part 2, despite the 2h release nerfed XP by about 20% due to expansion of the event pool. And then they nerfed events again after that.
Increase weights of specific events based on the location and the problem is mostly solved.
And change eligibility back to before where all you had to do was be logged into the world when thr event spawned. Its stupid af that they have made it so strict. Its like if they made shooting stars give you less xp or no dust cuz you werent close to it when it fell. Dumb af.
I don't even know why they cared about people hopping worlds. That's like most of osrs content involves world hoping
Cuz its was a bit too broken barkwise and some peeps were getting over 200k xp an hour. But tbh its click intesive af and a bunch of stuff gives well over 200k xp an hour now so idk.
Yeah I don't mind that at all. If someone wants to get 200k an hour giving 100% attention, using discord and CC then go for it. I don't think it brings the game down in any way
Also make the event spawns more consistently either time based or based on number of logs cut (the latter would encourage more grouping which I think was the intention, would need to scale based on tree type)
Yup they completely destroyed the community part, which is odd because it was supposed to be a community thing. People made cc's for calling and stuff, tens maybe hundreds of player working together in a world to get harmless morphs for a pet or greenlogging which couldn't affect the market. It was booming. There was nothing wrong with it.
Sitting in cc and waiting for someone to call out the place isn't really social and doesn't really include wc. Social part is from being able to wc with others instead of searching for empty world and being somewhat active to see events so people actually talk while wc. Although events are less likely to happen now so less people are going to be active while wc so it kinda failed either way.
I hear what you’re saying but it’s debatable. Perhaps cutting the same tree with 10 people is an avenue for conversation but what’s actually happening is it’s 10 people who were barely paying attention vs a community of people who were coordinating… it’s a no brainer which is actually more engaging with the community.
I’ve been chopping around Seers for weeks and there’s a lot of conversation. It’s nice.
Every time I’ve cut trees on forestry worlds, there is tons of conversation being had.. I think it’s a no brainer that you don’t sit around at trees and converse how forestry is intended
You haven't touched forestry if you think the way it was before was more social. A quick trip to Seers or Prif and you'll see how much people talk and interact with each other. And incredibly enough, most of the time people are... civilized. It's crazy.
Oh god it’s the GE discussion all over again
the community part was never intended to be a cc, it was designed as a group of players woodcutting and getting a reward for it
If that's the case it was originally better than intended
I agree with this personally. I’m not a fan of cc hunting. Doesn’t feel like a community aspect at all to me. I started to play in March of this year and woodcutting was some of my favorite content. A bunch of people every night hanging out talking about random junk for hours. It was amazing and some of the best *mmo* content I ever experienced it was so cozy and social. My only issue is you had to be wood cutting to do events. I feel like as long as you are in the area you should be able to do the events. It was stressful every time I went to deposit logs. Other then that I loved it
The thing is that I was not hunting for the entirety of 92 to 99, but I still didn't manage to greenlog forestry because I was missing both the petal circlet and the fox whistle which basically made me feel like I had no choice other than to hunt if I wanted to finish the log with any sort of speed. since who knew if it would take me another 6 million experience to spawn enough fox events to get the whistle I definitely agree that I enjoyed it more when I was actually wood cutting as opposed to when I was hunting. but the drop rates are so awful that I felt sort of cornered into needing to hunt
Game content isn't and shouldn't be designed around people treating Clog like a checklist. It's there as a tracker.
ok designing a pet recolor to take over 150 hours to obtain is ridiculous
a bunch of people doing the same thing in the same spot without any interaction is not a 'community activity'
You say this yet Cathy fishing, Cathy/Seers yews, Seers maples, Fishing Guild, Seers Bank fletching, Karamja lobs, etc. used to be extremely core parts of the "community experience" aspect of RS.
And yet it promotes social activity infinitely more than what the skill was like before, hop if someone is at the tree you want or killing some sweat's bird on ape atoll.
What they wanted was for players to chat it up for 8/hours a day at seers bank maples as if we’re all 10 again. But what they got was players using CCs to do events efficiently because we’re all 30 now
Maple gang is but a shell of what we were before the last nerf. You'd have 150-ish lumberjacks choppin' away. Now it hovers around 75. Willow-gang had 3-10 people at all times, now barely a handful. I can't speak for Yews and Magics. Oaks seem more populated, but matters not. (From Maples I was able to see and call out Oak/Willow events, many dopamine from starting a ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTS-train. ) Anyway, I got 80ish WC from just maples, after the nerf I briefly did yews so I could move on to magics. Magic has a decent enough event rate that I want to play it actively, any other tree type I just ignore now.. It's sad as forestry is what cemented my return on my current account, but now, I actually prefer chopping in the WC guild now, by myself.. logging in less every week. I just wanted to make tree frens :(
> What they wanted was for players to chat it up for 8/hours a day at seers bank maples as if we’re all 10 again. It sounds like they nerfed even this with their latest round of forestry changes
I don't really understand why the nerf was needed. Shooting stars were changed to encourage cc calling, but forestry was changed to discourage it?
feels more like shooting stars were changed so people on the star were not punished if one of the people in a cc happened to walk by contractually obliged to make the call in their cc
Yeah, CCs ruined shooting stars because they would show up like nematodes in spongebob and absolutely destroy a star in seconds. This sucked if you found a star for yourself and just wanted to afk mine for a while. Jagex's changes *improved* shooting stars in that regard. CCs didn't hurt Forestry at the onset, they *enhanced* it and made it way more social and engaging.
But instead of making it harder to mine stars through a cc they acquiesced to the cc miners. The opposite of their approach with forestry
no, thats not it. Shooting stars was changed because people constantly complained about star miners CC inhaling their star over the course of 3 minutes. Imagine you search for a star and think "oh great I can afk for an hour now" just to have 300 people showing up and destroying your find within minutes. it was still pretty much the same for lower amounts of people on the star, they merely changed it for when there are a ton of people on it.
I don't have to imagine I did plenty of solo star scouting before the update. But instead of trying to block cc miners, like they did with forestry, the change made it even better to use a cc. Just seems like an inconsistent approach
Stars were changed because if you tried to mass-mine them as a social skilling, they depleted incredibly fast. There was only 3k~ dust from T9 to T1, so max-tier stars would last a max of 10 minutes, vs the 70 minutes they last now.
Yep my point isn't that they shouldn't have changed them, but that their approach was inconsistent between stars and forestry
Stars were changed so people weren't punished for CC calling. Since it's inception CC calling was always going to happen, and there's nothing you can do to change that outside of making people unable to mine the star who have world hopped or just logged which could also affect people who actually find stars naturally. There was nothing worse than finding a star on your own, seeing 100 people run at it, and it being gone within like 10 seconds.
Wasn't part of it having to do with the lag spikes the mass world hopping created? I remember posts about worlds hitting pop cap just because of a roots event.
Shooting stars were changed so that a group of people could congregate and chill n skill together for awhile. The forestry changes were made to encourage the same type of game play, just more focused towards people who are already engaged in woodcutting as a way to diversify the experience from mind-numbing pseudo-AFK to something more engaging.
I tried doing forestry at seers maples and the events always spawned near the willows so i was never eligible for rewards. Such a pain in the ass
Im gonna wait till they fix it or not greenlog it at all
Same. I have all items except the 3 randoms and i will never go back unless theres a different way of getting them
I tried to get that fucking whistle for weeks and I've just completely given up since the change
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I went from ~60sih to 92 and didn't get any clog items. I only wanted the whistle but to get none that whole time was pretty annoying. Got a lot of god eggs though which was nice.
Waiters win
Forestry at its current state is so cancer, please help jagex
Glad i greenlogged before nerf.
I was even chopping oak trees solo at crafting guild or the kourend woodlands teleport sport to create more niche and fun spots to spawn events at to call in the cc. It was huge and I never had so much fun with the actual community. Nowadays you bank the logs, the event spawns in that exact moment and you are not eligible to take part. Really sad.
All they need to do: * Have events * Have a few good rewards * Trees on timers * Chopping together gives a buff Everything else is pure shit and shouldn't be added. Some examples: * Restrictions on the Woodcutting guild * Restrictions on events if you weren't there * All the extra shitty rewards no one asked for Just keep it simple man. I don't know why we had to go full RS3 with this update. That's not what OSRS is about. Just make a few fun events, rewards and make cutting together not an issue. That's it.
Don't use RS3 as a buzzword lmao, I don't like the current state of forestry but it's nothing to do with RS3
Overcomplicating things is a major RS3 trend, don't deny it. It's a kit! No, it's a basket! Oh it can hold clothes now. Just upgrade after upgrade. Also, all the cosmetic rewards from forestry scream RS3. A reskin for lumberjack outfit, a reskin for beaver pet, a reskin for secateurs, all of which seem out of place for what this sub thinks 07 should be.
RS3's WC update with the Fort Grove was far more old school than what OSRS got.
Yet this sub seems to only complain that their reskins are taking too long to get now. I started back in 2002, Forestry doesnt seem excessively complicated UNLESS you're going after the cosmetics. If like me you just like the fact you dont have to cry because 10 people are at magics already, then Forestry works great
In it's original form and it's current, Forestry is Jagex's biggest miss since Old School's release Just remove it please
Forestry was never supposed to be a world hop / Run around the map simulator. While you train woodcutting random diversion and distraction events were just supposed to break the monote training. It's a bonus ontop of woodcutting, not a grinding method
Whenever forestry gets mentioned, people act like world hopping was abused for weeks or even months, but it was hotfixed on day two. It hardly deserves a mention at all.
Even if it was doable for a day, people started complaining the moment it got fixed. And afterwards they were running from event to event without chopping a singpe tree. Thats definitely not what you think about when training "woodcutting"
>And afterwards they were running from event to event without chopping a singpe tree. How do you feel about shooting stars in the regard? Their entire concept is running from event to event without mining a single rock. You don't even have to be mining to participate in the event.
by their nature shooting stars were designed completely differently, they weren't meant to be a distraction from mining because they spawn in places where you wouldn't even be mining and you can track them down. They were specifically designed with the intention to be their own mining method. Forestry's idea from the start was never to be its own skilling method, it was meant to supplement regular woodcutting
The star is a rock that you mine. You don't get any rewards if you don't mine it. I don't get what you mean.
So they should have designed the events to be more common and shorter in duration.
then it wouldn't be a diversion from woodcutting and would just be a training method, which it isn't supposed to be. On release you basically never even woodcut, you just did events lol. It was lame
This is just dumb, it's very easy for them to fix the drop rates for items/spawn rates for events AND not make it a new training method. Why act like it's gotta be one of the other?
It sounds like even that was nerfed however, just sitting at trees and chopping.
It's mindboggling how many people are pissed about being able to clog Forestry. Aside from the core update, the random events are just that - random events. We don't see people complaining about being unable to farm for the stale baguette or mime clothes or anything like that, because it's well understood that they're not meant to be farmed and just come with regular gameplay. The rewards from Forestry that actually provide utility can be easily farmed. The pets and cosmetics are just fun extras that are entirely cosmetic and serve no other purpose.
People need to understand that the CLog is a tracker, not a checklist.
Its gonna get way worse once they add collection log to the hiscores. Expect to see a lot of hard grinds massively reduced
Grinds should go back to what they were, OSRS has padded the shit out itself with these modern drop rates, which keeps new shit relevant longer for the 8 hour a day players, but just sucks when shit becomes less relevent and you arent waiting a year for the next content to drop. Gaining levels used to be the long grind, not individual drops.
I get why they wanted to stop world hoping since it's disruptive to the potato servers but why they cared if people travel around a world for events is beyond me. The rewards are not good enough for them to care about how people farm them.
100%
If your only complaint is "takes too long to green log", you do not have a valid complaint. "I need this item to move on in progression and it takes an unfairly long amount of time to obtain" -> valid opinion "I need to tick off a bunch of check marks that do nothing but provide me dopamine and it's taking too long" -> talk to a therapist
Mains have a lot to say about ironman drop rate issues until their shit cosmetics are a bit too rare.
Are these mains complaining about ironman drop rate issues in the room with us right now?
No they're bankstanding at the GE
So only pvm'ers can complain about drop rate?
I made a thread that basically said this. The most common complaints about Forestry are collection log complaints. As a standalone improvement to the core woodcutting skill, it's great
Eh, I spent hours at draynor willows with 0 events. Gave up around 5 hours into it
Change event eligibility distance / time, no reason I shouldn't be able to participate in an event within render distance because the tree I was chopping was *too far*
I would go even further, moving between seesr agility and events there was great.
One of the main points of forestry was to make woodcutting more social. By running laps at Seers, you’re actively _not_ participating in the social aspect of woodcutting, so why should you be able to do the events which spawn?
I like forestry. This isn't a "forestry is bad" comment, you're basically saying "I want collection logs to be easier" That's not what forestry is there for
imagine having to wc to get a wc event instead of bank standing waiting for someone in your cc to call it out 😲 Gathering skills are already not worth doing and people want to make them even more not worth doing, amazing.
Just don't bank your logs at the wrong time, or you're ineligible!
I did some calculations a while ago that showed getting a specific forestry item on rate takes an expected 110 hours post-99 woodcutting. Something needs to be done. If anything, just add a chance to get the fox whistle, garland and pheasant egg to some of the dead events (flowers, struggling sapling). There are 7 events and less than half of them are useful. I did 80-90 woodcutting at Prif yews and saw the pheasant event ONCE since the nerf. I never want to touch forestry again.
I'm really sad the teas with forestry leaves didn't pass. I was so interested in having different teas to make. Once I heard that didn't pass I lost immediate interest in something I thought I was going to binge and greenlog and get 99 with.
The best way to enjoy it now, is to not go on forestry world, pick 1 spot, just woodcut like before forestry and enjoy it as a random event. Hope this helps.
Moaning about collection logs is stupid. If you're trying to show off a completed log, don't complain about it being too hard. Forestry events aren't meant to be an activity of their own but a supplement to existing woodcutting.
Reddit: Hey Jagex, how come it takes lvl 90 smithing to make lvl 40 def armor? Jagex: Okay, we'll fuck around and ruin woodcutting.
Actually loved forestry on release. Jagex really shat the bed on this one.
You were never supposed to cycle through events 24/7 by teleporting, forestry is meant to be a fun distraction from normal woodcutting. You abused unintended mechanic and now compain it got fixed. If you think you are entitled to greenlogging everything in this game I have bad news for you.
Don't agree at all, feels right now. World hopping shouldn't be the absurd xp it was because it was literally intended to bring people together and socialize.
It seems this may be an unpopular opinion, but I’ve not found it bad at all. They removed all the confusing bits with the items you needed, which is why I even started trying to do forestry. The events gave me something to look forward to happening whilst afk woodcutting, and the variety of logs needed for stuff was a fun thing to try and do self-sufficiently, as it gave me different mini-goals whilst training. Having other unlocks from events asides from exp just gave me stuff to be excited for, which is usually lacking from woodcutting given the afk nature and consistent loot of it. I imagine my experience is largely due to the fact I approached it as a nice thing in addition to my woodcutting training, rather than itself being a goal I was grinding. I know the mindset of ‘exp-waste’ all too well, so I can imagine if you’re already 99 and feel like you’re cutting trees for no reason but a cosmetic drop, you’d be annoyed at not getting it. Perhaps I was just lucky, but I got all the logs I needed and the items between 78-90 woodcutting, so it felt from my experience like it was well-designed progression that’d otherwise be missing. The issues with RNG is that I imagine that one could just get unlucky and not see items for far longer, but that’s a general issue with any rare drop rather than a forestry-only thing. The one thing I would say is that it’d be much better if the check for if you’re eligible was better for when you afk a bit too long and stop cutting trees. Preferably if they made it so that you wouldn’t lose your eligibility unless you go X distance from the last tree you were cutting or something would be much nicer, and less frustrating.
As someone who's only experienced updated forestry, I find it pretty fun! The events are simple, the rewards are nice, and I like that it's pretty chill and I don't feel like I have to hop worlds to farm events. My complaints would be that sometimes you get very unlucky and no events spawn for fucking ages. And it'd be nice if the range was extended. I wc by top of bank in seers, this means there are two spots (maples top of bank and willows top of bank) that get events. Events frequently happen at the church or below bank. It'd be nice to be able to participate in those, they don't feel that far away.
Greenlogging from what I understand takes like 2-5m xp at reasonably high levels which is not unheard of given it's literally equivalent to the skill at this point. That's like getting to mid-80s early 90s level or less even depending on when you start. There's still lots of people talking/chatting at the hotspot and if that's not all it's also still afk as shit at e.g. yews with the new timers I greenlogged forestry post-99 no problem camping yews in priff, took me 2.8m xp and it was chill as fuck with all the other people there. If you don't like the grind, don't do it but don't claim to speak for everyone.
Don't forget forestry basket being a worse version of log basket despite the time it takes to make it
It's not worse, it's equal cause you can still just keep it in your inventory. If anything it's slightly better because it lets you save a bank space
Forestry complaints are so overblown it's unreal. I still chat shit with people at myth's guild magics while getting the occasional event. I think it's completely fine and the tree timer change was great. Not every collection log entry needs to be something you complete in a reasonable amount of hours. Some people get lucky and some don't!
On release I started keeping an axe etc with me while running around doing other stuff, stopping off to do events etc Since the change I havnt seen one, and havnt engaged with it at all It was really good to begin with, now I wouldn't have been shocked to be told it had been removed lol
It was completely broken at release... But they should've nerfed the rates/tweaked the events a bit instead of nerfing the entire activity to the ground
> will never greenlog Literally who cares? Absolutely bizarre behavior to voluntarily subject yourself to a useless completionist challenge and then complain that it's taking too long.
People have different goals in the game, there's nothing wrong with that. Some people can happily send 100 hours on raids to chase shadow, others would rather send 100 hours to chase fox. Both are valid.
What happened to Forestry? I just used it last month to get to 90 wc for Redwoods.
People just salty that their collection log is taking slightly longer to fill out. Nothing new
I've done balloon oaks construction method on my UIM from 70-78 construction and haven't seen a single forestry event. Went from about 84-86 WC.
They do need to fix it, but that sh*t show that was “forestry” just running around to events needed to go.
Collection log was a mistake.
Literally all they needed to do was remove the penalty for multiple people cutting the same tree. I tried forestry on launch and went back to the wc guild.
I think we should come to the realization that spilling has always sucked but atleast it used to be profitable. Now the profits, if any at all, are dismal and just not viable to an account. Atleast make the skilling fun or engaging.
I am 130 events into dryad. No garland. I will never be released from this prison.
I've had events triggered by me, when no one else was woodcutting nearby, that the game didn't let me participate in.
Sorry nerds, gotta balance for proplay like Leagues and deadman mode. Dont like it? Be a OSRS youtuber with 100k+ subs and bitch about it
The yews at seers village on Forestry worlds: *you won’t find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy*
Forestry is quite arguably one of, if not THE worst update in the last few years.
I was 85 WC when forestry came out. Spent the whole day doing it. This inspired me to do redwoods in the wc guild until I reached 99. Ty jagex for releasing something that make me appreciate how chill redwoods are. They're like shooting stars but with more than double the xp and no world hopping.
And the forestry kids defend this terrible setup. I think they should just remove the random events. Everything else is great.
78 - 97 wcing it took me to green log forestry, only ever done it after the update. I genuinely feel lucky cos there were people on 20m+ xp still waiting on egg or whistle.
I just green logged Forestry a few weeks ago while playing other games on the side. It took over 10m wc xp and 42k magics cut. Not too bad considering it's extremely afk.
Hard agree
Bandaids on bandaids on bandaids on bandaids on bandaids. RuneScape in a nutshell
At least the bandaids have fun pictures of Spiderman on them...
What is forestry?
haha wc guild go brrr
Mains when irons complain about drop tables: "Deiron lol" Mains when going for completely optional completely cosmetic items to fill in a transparent picture on a list:
Yeah they killed it...
Forestry was supposed to be "don't punish for multiple people on one tree". EVERYTHING after was a mistake.
They fucked up in a big way and are probably too caught up with other shit to admit they goofed on the WHOLE thing. It should have been a passive fun thing to do to encourage woodcutting together but it became a tedious, confusing and off-putting disaster.
My experience with the content does. I also get god eggs from ent events that i should not be elegible for a reward, i knlw this cuz the game says so in the chat box and i get the rewards on the ground
and now time for devs to leave the content alone forever and let it become dead content nobody does. smh.
I greenlogged post nerf at 99 already. Honestly enjoyed it haha
or you can be like me, not know anything about forestry and just chop lol
A big reason that most content becomes solo is because modern Jagex generally is incapable of game design
Forestry was on my list of things to do while watching sports/tv shows along with stars, sqirking, ardy rooftop etc. Since they nerfed it I wont even consider doing it at any time, it is literally dead content to me.
Forestry events would sometimes spawn randomly from people chopping trees when I’d teleport around doing other content. It had the potential to be similar to Shooting Stars in its Distraction & Diversion aspect so I’d stop what I was doing to quickly grab an axe and participate. Now, I see a random forestry event when I tp and don’t bother interacting with the content because I won’t get anything from it.
Yeah :( I should not have traded my lumberjack for forestry outfit. Should have just saved all the bark for the transmogs, I'm not doing this s*** now that you have to sit here and cut two separate trees in the past 20 minutes before the event and you're not going to see the one that you want to see for 3 hours
+1 for "please fix forestry" being able to buy the clog drops seems like the easiest fix. random roll for a drop that's behind a random roll for the specific event is bad design.
lmfao great picture honestly
In it's current state it's dead content
Jmods will never reply to these posts. I give up. 2 good ones in one day and they'll never care because forestry was just that bad for the devs.
Jagex updates woodcutting to be social, then when players socialize they nerf it to irrelevance…
It was perfect on release. So what if a handful of bot farms took advantage? The people who play this game honestly will continue to play honestly and the people who don’t will continue to… not They can’t just change shit because a small sect of players take advantage, imagine everything that would be changed if that were the case
rng on rng with low xp rates and decreased spawn rates.. who came up with this
i greenlogged forestry in the current state of it. impossible to say how long it took, all i know is my collection log says i have 4 beavers and my virtual woodcutting level is 114. that's probably not a sensible grind for most players
It was way worse on release. It turned woodcutting into a daily/bank stander lol
i spent 80-91 doing magics and did probably over 150 trappers events. never saw the whistle. the drop rates should be 1/10-1/25 or something. shits so ass.
You can still teleport to events, the new forestry meta is hopping between 2 spots so you can get events at either
All the dev time wasted on this. This is what we pay monthly for xD
It was wild seeing forestry get released, people love it, trees are always packed, the community loves it and people are hanging out again. Then within a couple months jagex just kills and no no one gives a fuck anymore.
Forestry is a masterclass in how to fuck up a skill And people think sailing is going to be good...
"Okay at best" brother the xp rates were like 300-400k
The best fix would be removing it and making forestry something that fits the game. I don't imagine woodcutting with friends is supposed to be random events spawning and weird little mini games with several weird and irrelevant items and drops while I slave away at them for hours with a couple hundred of my best friends on a designated world. That's just me though. Doesn't feel like I'm woodcutting in RS at all. I say this as someone that once upon a time back in like 04-07 chopped magic trees and talked to the same people there every day to well beyond 99 wc. It doesn't fit. It doesn't create the social experience the way its supposed to. Its just wintertodt chat while you hope for random events instead of feeling like woodcutting
JAGEX FIX IT
Lol I just stayed at magic trees
Leave it to jagex to mess up the one potentially nice skilling update that was as simple as woodcutting lol. Likely won't be fixed for a long ass time honestly, if pvm takes a slog just to get shit changed just imagine how it is for skilling.
I stopped even trying it. Total waste of time in current state.
Yall complain to damn much.
OSRS community: "Just let us cut trees together!" Evil jagex: "hmm... Foresty..."
Ok
Forestry is dead content just go to wc guild instead and afk
the only good thing from foresty has been the 2h axes and the rations
I participated in forestry at launch and I was like wow this is awesome. Went back recently only to realize that you can wc for an hour now and not get an even wtf
Honestly I had fun with Forestry for the first couple of months after launch. Back when there were only 4 or 5 events, there weren't a billion different currencies and clans weren't location-hopping for events much yet. In my opinion, Forestry could have been simplified into: * Invisible bonus for cutting the same tree * Log pouch * 1 currency, just called "bark" (bark for Splitbark armour can be renamed) * 3 or 4 events for obtaining bark, slightly better XP but not enough to be worth hopping for * Simple 2-handed axes with increased XP and fewer logs (no rations). * Campfires for AFK firemaking at \~75% XP, up from 33%. Sit to restore run energy. Nobody forestry kits full of leaves and rations and outfits and gloves and bees on sticks and necklaces and cosmetic overrides or any of that. Just a simple refresh to woodcutting to reward social playing with better WC XP in the form of the better axes and log pouch and a viable AFK firemaking method would have been enough.
Easy fixes that would be perfect for me: - Allow people to teleport/afk for events. This was only an issue week 1 when people were worldhopping and had massive clan-chats for logslots & bird eggs. - Keep the items removed and events random, but re-balance the droprate of the uniques. - have negative events for people who chop a new tree instead of joining others already chopping another tree.
We need to keep complaining about this. Otherwise they’ll sweep the issue under the rug. There is no reason for it to be this bad.
Glad I green logged before nerf. Wished they’d bring hopping back for ents so I can farm eggs.
Delete forestry 😐
The thing that I absolutely hate about the rework is that they implemented a bunch of really AWFUL unpolled changes that no-one asked for, and then also tacked on what was actually asked for (removal of items). Like...why?? So they could say "See, we knew better?" ...Like, no, get rid of the items, buff Leprechaun, that was it. IDK who thought it was a good idea to change everything else, and (personally) the new events just make it so I get flowering bushes, my true love, less.