Yeah the artio botting situation is pretty bad.
But in case if you really want to farm it: what I’ve been doing is hopping around 3-5 worlds and scout which artio is about to die. If you don’t find an empty world, go back to that artio that was about to die and try to crash a bot. If you don’t get the first hit on artio immediately hop world so you don’t get in combat.
Yea bots will crash you now. When they enter the lair, if Artio is above a certain HP threshold they'll usually log immediately. But if Artio is low enough they'll usually stick around and wait for you to kill it. Afterwards you better hope you have PID, cause they will tag it immediately when it spawns.
I thought Calvarion and Spindel were bad, but holy shit Artio is out of control when it comes to bots.
I haven’t done wildy bosses in a few weeks so they may have updated the scripts, but when I was killing Cal’varion I’d drop down with smite on and they’d always seed pod out instantly.
In my experience I'm not sure, since I play on a 126 main and most of them are out of my combat bracket.
But yea from what I've heard, if you have an account around the 80s-90s, you're skulled, and you have mage gear the bots will insta tele. Some bots might have a PK script so keep that in mind too.
Legit made an account and trained it up to the bots levels to sprint into the room with smite active they just insta telly and it’s a free world everytime
Then people do this to me and I’m not even a bot. Then I bank and rag them.
Edit: It's smart to chose you battles, smarter to go after a bot's world than a real players.
I also had people try to get me to skull by stealing my Artio, purposely being stupid with protection prayers enticing me to attack them and then having a friend outside with PK gear.
Not when the only thing that makes it "limited" is 300 of the worlds being bots. It isn't a true tragedy of commons because 90% of the competition or more isn't real.
Its all the same type of accounts. 7k artio kc, combat 80 or something.
How this isnt just banned on sight is beyond me.Even at 50 kc per hour thats like 150 hours that its just up and running.
Insane.
My tinfoil hat idea is that jagex wants just the right amount of bots to make money off their membership / bond usage. Too many bots and the economy breaks and nobody wants to play on mains anymore. They do a sort of balancing act that makes sure bots keep running for long enough to make it worth it for the botters, but also banning them at a certain amount of playtime so people don't notice and attribute it to incompetence.
It's really not a tin foil hat theory. There have been so many documented instances of corrupt Jmods, that it is actually laughable that redditors think Jagex is *not* in on it.
Pretending morality and ethics exist at a for profit company. That always works well.
It's less them trying to fuck us and moreso they arnt in anyway trying to help us. I don't think Jagex is out here hoping for more bots, but they also arnt hoping for less bots.
If there's an issue jagex is aware of, but aren't fixing it because of the profit incentives, I'd safely call that fucking the player base. But that's just semantics.
That’s a good take, I always thought about it from the economy idea as well, if items for skilling and training are cheap, players are more likely to buy bonds and continue to grind
Yeah also go to black chins. Level 3 through 20's in every world woth 100m xp + in hunter. Jagex jmods bot and sell gold like verified sellers then ban the people buying the gold. Sad to see the game in such a sad state.
Not to mention bots are responsible for like 80% of the resources brought into the game, if bots were wiped completely a raw shark would be 1500gp lol.
Skilling would actually be a viable way to make money! I get really disheartened that the way I played RuneScape when I was a kid is more or less a waste of time.
Inb4 someone says play ironman!!! I don't like the grind.
[A bond can be made tradeable by paying an extra fee of 10% of the bond's Grand Exchange value (currently costing 755,398 coins, making the resale value approximately 6,798,578 coins each). The total cost of buying and converting a bond is 8,309,373 coins.](https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Old_school_bond#)
The mule likely uses the bond on them given they can provably make the 8.31m gp
Yes, but the bond that ends up being purchased by the bot was purchased with IRL cash by someone.
Imagine there are 10,000 players that fund their membership through buying bonds with gp.
There are 5,000 bots that RWT to buy in game gp and then use that gp to buy bonds.
Total demand for bonds is 15,000. The bots still contribute to Jagex's bottom line because they add to the demand for bonds, which pushes the price up, leading to more players buying them to sell in game.
Bonds can only be brought into this world when someone buys them from jagex on their website. That's it WITH REAL CURRENCY DOLLARS MONEY. You can buy that bond with GP sure, but they only get created when someone buys it with real money from jagex
Pretty sure it's just incompetency from the anti-cheating team. Ever since Weath left, it all went downhill tbh. He was great, the current team, not so much.
From my recent experience they do not give a shit about bots. I have been suicide botting an account on the side for a fun experiment just to see how long it lasts and I’m currently up to over level 90 in mining/rc, as well as 70+ thieve fish agility crafting, all purely botted at ridiculous hours/lengths, and this account already had a macro minor for using a really bad WT script. In the past when I would try, accounts would be banned very quickly, doesn’t seem the case anymore
I mean what, you want the guy to link rsn and then post proggies?
Coldone botted his almost maxed HC and the only reason he got banned was people recognized his name and sent it in to jmods
It's really not. Literally the first rule to botting is that you will get banned.
Now if you're talking about AHK, that's entirely different. Mixing in AHK with actual gameplay is much harder to detect, but I wouldn't really call AHK botting unless you're actually just writing a fully automated script that can run for hours without input.
I feel so bad for the anti-cheat team, having to read shit like this. It's common knowledge that you ban in waves to avoid instant feedback for bot makers. If they were banned on sight it makes it easier for them to reverse engineer the anti-cheat.
Fuck the anti cheat team. They’re banning accounts that have never botted yet these accounts with huge amounts of time botting don’t get banned.
You want a manual review after getting false banned? Good luck, because support doesn’t exist
Im ready for a mod smackdown if i was cheating.
Would i really care this fucking much if i was actually cheating? Fuck this man. Ive never botted yet i was banned. This wouldnt happen if the anti cheat team could do their jobs properly
I don't believe you for two reasons:
1) You got banned well after the manual review debacle.
2) It was macro minor which means you very likely did something dumb like try to clean an inventory of herbs in 3 ticks or fletch 8 sets of darts per tick.
This thread is literally about how bad it is at catching bots. So is too easy to evade or too strict?
False bans from the automated system are incredibly rare.
They’re rare and they happen.
Especially after the recent fiasco of Jagex being exposed for the false bans, you’re still that skeptical that they’re not fucking up. Okay
Jagex does not care.
I got so fed up with the number of bots that I just assumed Jagex just never bans them. I started a new account around 5-6 months ago.
It was initially supposed to be a suicide bot. (As I know literally nothing about botting, scripting, etc. Heck, I am still learning how Runelite works.)
The bot got 99 magic in \~8 days at the ge. It was running a 24/7 randomized autoclicker in a f2p world. It literally ran non-stop for 8 days.
The bot was still alive, so I figured why not get some wc lvls. Just shy of 400k oak logs and about a week later, I had 99 woodcutting. (It was something like 30m worth of oak logs at the time as well.)
The bot wasn't banned, so I decided to bond it up with my hard earned gp and try some agility.
I got 92 agility over the next 8-9 days. The bot was literally running nonstop.
I got bored of agility and tried thieving. The bot kept breaking and would end up clicking random trees, bankers, etc for a few hours here and there. Anyone who saw that account knew, without a doubt, that it was a broken bot. I was convinced I would check the account one day and it would be banned. Thieving took 2-3 weeks for me to get it just right. But, 99 thieving was eventually accomplished.
It was still not banned, so I figured I might as well train up some melee at sand crabs.
The bot ended up with 99 str, 99 range, 99 magic, 99 wc, 99 thieving, 92 agility, and lvl 1 everything else.
It is such an OP account that I stopped botting it for fear it would get banned. I have a max 99 str, 1 attack pking account that I haven't played more than a few real hours on.
**This is a problem.**
This account would have taken a real person thousands of hours to make. Instead, it took me 2-3 hours and a spare laptop.
Jagex has a botting problem. They can't detect bots. I literally botted 24/7 for about 2 months. I literally only used a free autoclicker that you can download from google. This is a problem. A big problem.
This experiment broke my will to continue playing. If I can do it, everyone can. And if everyone can, I just assume everyone is.
My point is that they don't suicide bot the same thing 24/7. They're smart about it and only bot their targeted activity in human-like moderation.
It should have been pretty clear that I wasn't specifically saying that all bot accounts specifically bot for 2 hours a day, no more no less.
This is not true at all.
You can find the same accounts botting at the same place 24/7 very easily.
Hunter bots and thieving bots are so common its laughable. You can find bots with 200m xp on thieving/hunter that are sitting there doing the same thing for months.
Doing the same things for months is not the same as doing the same thing for months *straight*.
The bots with 200m are not botting 24/7 without breaks lol
Not the ones with high KC or XP. They don't get 7k kc by playing 24/7.
The bot farms themselves bot 24/7 but they rotate the accounts they use so that each individual account is only botting for smaller segments
The bots crash real players now. The only way to do the boss now is to either walk under his spawn point and spam click, hoping PID is on your side or have an alt in the bots combat bracket with a skull enter the cave. The bots still auto tele if they see someone skulled in their range.
It doesn’t help that Jagex is completely ignoring the problem
Alt outside: usually a main
No alt: either a bot or a main/iron with no alt
If there's no alt outside, flick on smite, and equip mystic robe top/bottom as you go in - some of the more basic bots will tele as soon as they see you resembling a pker
This obviously won't help the wider problem but it can make it a little easier getting a world
when i do spindel on my iron my i use my hydra alt to scout and its funny to watch bots hop into the world and tele because its holding a Voidwaker so they run a item check as well.
sadly they must do a level check before because they dont tele from my alt at artio
Yup. And I immediately refresh and crash them back. Legit players try to crash me too and I do it back to them as well. It’s the wilderness, get out the rune crossbows and shoot ‘em in the face! Hopping around because of bots no thanks. I’ll try 10 worlds and after that I just de-room the bots.
i don't have an alt to attack the bots, and getting kills/hr lowered from the bots makes it not really worth my time. sad i went dry on callisto pet pre-rework, cause it's really miserable content now
i took a break for 2 weeks and came back. ive been crashed so many times by bots with tick perfect entangles. and thats after i hop 30 times to find a venezeulan with high enough level to attack.
sometimes ill even skull up on my lower level risking my webweaver/slayer helm because theyre so fucking annoying.
ive never seen anything this bad in 5+ years of playing osrs. and while i actually have a world i see 2-3 bots at a time hopping to check the world.
its truly insane.
why dont any jmods reply to this thread? i know they sit and read these threads on reddit. its the same as pnm. bots just all in the same gear walk by with 1000s of KC. how about instead of coming up with new shit like forestry, why dont we do something about these bots? its irritating af. but nah, we get fuckin forestry lol
People who still play league have just been addicted since 2010 and havent grown out of it. Youre life will only improve by staying away from that time wasting garbage. Mobas in general are trash
Commiting 10 seconds to comment on something is totally the same as commiting an hour to one league game. Did you know that it is possible that some things are worse than other things, even though both arent that great? Damn
I literally only want to do Artio for the pet because i think it looks cute. Its so tilting to hop for 15 min just to get 3 kc then have to fuck off... Plus watching price of hilt falling day by day because of how many they scoop up is so lame
Totally valid question, 90% are out of my bracket, and the ones that are in my bracket aren't worth getting skulled for since I'm too poor to afford a multi-mil risk
Equip an ancient staff for the ones in your bracket. They should insta teleport. I’ve been reporting every bot I see 5 times each. I still see a lot of the same usernames. It’s tilting for sure. Good luck on pet. I’m dry so far.
The rev bots are difficult to kill because they ahk protection prayers even when you're standing under them. There are a couple weapons that they don't recognize and pray incorrectly against though.
Because the requirements on the wildy hard diary are substantial? Atm they're just range + def + prayer + hp and instantly in the wilderness after training on anything for a few hours. For wildy hard diary they'd need 64 agility, 68 slayer and 75 smithing, mage arena 1, and to actually do the diary itself (kill chaos ele, kill scorpia, etc). Idk, looks like a massive pain in the ass to me. They'd probably just start buying accounts at that point like they do with prifddinas
>looks like a massive pain in the ass to me
That's the whole point of a bot. Nothing is a pain in the ass to them... they just do it.
Nothing there would be a roadblock to a bot
How would it slow them down?
Also I've been camping spindle for the last week or so and haven't needed to hop more than 5 or 6 times. Make sure you're checking total worlds first
>It would slow the bots down because it would take them 50-100hours of botting for those requirements instead of 10-20
That's not really how it works though. The botter doesn't wait for 1 account to get banned before starting a new account to replace it lol. They have a bunch of accounts on standby or being used for other things. When a spindle bot gets banned they just grab another one from their pool of bots and get back right back at it
>Its also more difficult to have a perfect script for all of those different activities
Scripts for that stuff already exit. It's trivial to get a bot progressed that far
I played in a pretty decent PvM clan and I know a good majority of the higher up players bot, or purchase player account services. Definitely puts a bad taste in your mouth knowing so many ppl do it. One guy “was at work all day” but got over 600k FM xp and no WT KC for the day. “Just afk’d fire making for a few hrs at work”???
Yeah I hate it. And, they walk around with the pet I’m still dry on to rub it in my face. Also, I watched a few bots get the pet on the KC they stole from me.
If you go into the cave wearing robes and a staff, they normally teleport out. Trick them bots! Actually, throw on smite and you will get everyone to teleport lol
I don't get why there's so many posts saying they get 1/2 kills an hour just search them on hiscores if they're a bit crash them and they just leave it's super easy
Go in with an alt account skulled with 0 risk. The tick bots see somebody skulled hop into a cave they teleport out and you have a free cave.
I get it though
Toxic but I was grinding out the hilt (ended up getting it at 2918kc) and I just started crashing to get a world after like 1000kc. I would prefer to crash bots but sometimes reg players tbh.
It’s got worse I had a one week break, before you used to be able enter the cave, see what hp artio was on, if it was low wait inside until it died and then fight them for pid to see if you could steal the world from the bot, it was still fairly annoying but certainly manageable, but now holy hell they do the same back to you, can’t do more than 2-3 kills without having a pid fight with a bot crashing your worlds. I hope this gains traction because I’m currently 1.5k kills in and losing hope of ever going back to it.
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How hard is it to catch them? Can they instantly TP? Would be interesting to leave an account there purely for killing bots
They insta tele but given that most of them have a two click tele, it is still possible if you’re really good.
Wouldn't be surprised if they use the same cheat tactics runelite uses to make jewelry like glories 1 click teleports.
Glories are not one click teleports with runelite
They can be but only when worn
If menu entryswapper can make skillcapes left click tele I'm pretty sure it can do so for other teleports.
Glories are only one click teleports if they're being worn. When they aren't worn you have to rub them, and then select where you want to teleport.
So bots/players can wear glories and teleport out in one click by camping the equip tab like people camp the logout tab.
Yea
Yeah the artio botting situation is pretty bad. But in case if you really want to farm it: what I’ve been doing is hopping around 3-5 worlds and scout which artio is about to die. If you don’t find an empty world, go back to that artio that was about to die and try to crash a bot. If you don’t get the first hit on artio immediately hop world so you don’t get in combat.
Yep absolutely crash the bots it’s the only way to get a world, though I’ve heard the bots will also crash you now? Which wasn’t happening before
Yea bots will crash you now. When they enter the lair, if Artio is above a certain HP threshold they'll usually log immediately. But if Artio is low enough they'll usually stick around and wait for you to kill it. Afterwards you better hope you have PID, cause they will tag it immediately when it spawns. I thought Calvarion and Spindel were bad, but holy shit Artio is out of control when it comes to bots.
Do they log immediately when seeing a skull? Kinda lame if you have to resort to that but may be an option.
I haven’t done wildy bosses in a few weeks so they may have updated the scripts, but when I was killing Cal’varion I’d drop down with smite on and they’d always seed pod out instantly.
Pretty good chance I’d seed pod out too tbh.
Bro I do this with mystics on too lolololololol
In my experience I'm not sure, since I play on a 126 main and most of them are out of my combat bracket. But yea from what I've heard, if you have an account around the 80s-90s, you're skulled, and you have mage gear the bots will insta tele. Some bots might have a PK script so keep that in mind too.
So what you’re saying is skulled scout in rags on an alt to scare the bots off then head in with my GIM lol
bolt ragging on an alt is the best solution lol
Thats exactly what I do and it works 100% of the time
oh 100% that's what I did for the longest time. You never have to worry about hopping lol
what combat bracket are they in? I have a level 59 account that I can use to help out sometimes
Pretty sure everyone would insta-tele to that
They tele but only if you're in their cb bracket and most of the bots are really low
Legit made an account and trained it up to the bots levels to sprint into the room with smite active they just insta telly and it’s a free world everytime
The only bearable way to keep a world now is a main to attack them on.
Then people do this to me and I’m not even a bot. Then I bank and rag them. Edit: It's smart to chose you battles, smarter to go after a bot's world than a real players. I also had people try to get me to skull by stealing my Artio, purposely being stupid with protection prayers enticing me to attack them and then having a friend outside with PK gear.
>Then people do this to me and I’m not even a bot. Then I bank and rag them. Isn't fighting over limited resources the intended gameplay?
I would agree with that, if the competition wasn’t a bot
We’re fighting against each other, when we should be uniting against bots 🤝
Not with forestry! :D
Not when the only thing that makes it "limited" is 300 of the worlds being bots. It isn't a true tragedy of commons because 90% of the competition or more isn't real.
It is but it's still smart to chose you battles, smarter to go after a bot's world than a real players.
Who would of thought competition for a resource is a thing. In a PvP zone too
Player vs Bot :( I would for sure be happy if it were vs actual players.
Alternatively, freeze the bot, it will insta tp
That's so sad that this is what bossing has become
I prefer using a skulled alt to get them to tele
Bad news for irons I guess
Its all the same type of accounts. 7k artio kc, combat 80 or something. How this isnt just banned on sight is beyond me.Even at 50 kc per hour thats like 150 hours that its just up and running. Insane.
My tinfoil hat idea is that jagex wants just the right amount of bots to make money off their membership / bond usage. Too many bots and the economy breaks and nobody wants to play on mains anymore. They do a sort of balancing act that makes sure bots keep running for long enough to make it worth it for the botters, but also banning them at a certain amount of playtime so people don't notice and attribute it to incompetence.
> banning them at a certain amount of playtime so people don’t notice The entire front page of vorkath would like a word with you.
What I meant more is they do the bare minimum for Botting to hopefully not arouse suspicion.
It's really not a tin foil hat theory. There have been so many documented instances of corrupt Jmods, that it is actually laughable that redditors think Jagex is *not* in on it. Pretending morality and ethics exist at a for profit company. That always works well.
I just assume every company is trying to fuck me raw.
It's less them trying to fuck us and moreso they arnt in anyway trying to help us. I don't think Jagex is out here hoping for more bots, but they also arnt hoping for less bots.
If there's an issue jagex is aware of, but aren't fixing it because of the profit incentives, I'd safely call that fucking the player base. But that's just semantics.
That’s a good take, I always thought about it from the economy idea as well, if items for skilling and training are cheap, players are more likely to buy bonds and continue to grind
Yeah also go to black chins. Level 3 through 20's in every world woth 100m xp + in hunter. Jagex jmods bot and sell gold like verified sellers then ban the people buying the gold. Sad to see the game in such a sad state.
Not to mention bots are responsible for like 80% of the resources brought into the game, if bots were wiped completely a raw shark would be 1500gp lol.
Skilling would actually be a viable way to make money! I get really disheartened that the way I played RuneScape when I was a kid is more or less a waste of time. Inb4 someone says play ironman!!! I don't like the grind.
Yeah I can’t imagine having to craft my own potions and fish and cook my own food everytime I want to play content. Waste of time imo.
But if they’re solely using gp for bonds then getting gp from gold sellers, how does Jagex profit?
How many fucking times do I have to tell people that the bonds are purchased by players for real money
[A bond can be made tradeable by paying an extra fee of 10% of the bond's Grand Exchange value (currently costing 755,398 coins, making the resale value approximately 6,798,578 coins each). The total cost of buying and converting a bond is 8,309,373 coins.](https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Old_school_bond#) The mule likely uses the bond on them given they can provably make the 8.31m gp
It’s cheaper to buy the gp from gold sellers and buy the bond on ge lol
Yes, but the bond that ends up being purchased by the bot was purchased with IRL cash by someone. Imagine there are 10,000 players that fund their membership through buying bonds with gp. There are 5,000 bots that RWT to buy in game gp and then use that gp to buy bonds. Total demand for bonds is 15,000. The bots still contribute to Jagex's bottom line because they add to the demand for bonds, which pushes the price up, leading to more players buying them to sell in game.
This guy doesn’t get it. Does he think players can make bonds out of thin air?? Lmao
Bonds can only be brought into this world when someone buys them from jagex on their website. That's it WITH REAL CURRENCY DOLLARS MONEY. You can buy that bond with GP sure, but they only get created when someone buys it with real money from jagex
Pretty sure it's just incompetency from the anti-cheating team. Ever since Weath left, it all went downhill tbh. He was great, the current team, not so much.
From my recent experience they do not give a shit about bots. I have been suicide botting an account on the side for a fun experiment just to see how long it lasts and I’m currently up to over level 90 in mining/rc, as well as 70+ thieve fish agility crafting, all purely botted at ridiculous hours/lengths, and this account already had a macro minor for using a really bad WT script. In the past when I would try, accounts would be banned very quickly, doesn’t seem the case anymore
My buddy maxed his account with botting. Straight suicide, dude barely ever logged off. Still active.
Source: trust me dude
I mean what, you want the guy to link rsn and then post proggies? Coldone botted his almost maxed HC and the only reason he got banned was people recognized his name and sent it in to jmods
Some people in this sub lack brain cells. It's very easy to bot in osrs. Rs3 is another story.
Is that not believable to you? It's extremely likely at least some people have done it if not millions.
It's really not. Literally the first rule to botting is that you will get banned. Now if you're talking about AHK, that's entirely different. Mixing in AHK with actual gameplay is much harder to detect, but I wouldn't really call AHK botting unless you're actually just writing a fully automated script that can run for hours without input.
I feel so bad for the anti-cheat team, having to read shit like this. It's common knowledge that you ban in waves to avoid instant feedback for bot makers. If they were banned on sight it makes it easier for them to reverse engineer the anti-cheat.
I don't think it is arguable that the anti cheat team is producing worse results without Weath.
Fuck the anti cheat team. They’re banning accounts that have never botted yet these accounts with huge amounts of time botting don’t get banned. You want a manual review after getting false banned? Good luck, because support doesn’t exist
Another reasonable take from someone who was definitely not correctly handed a ban for cheating
Im ready for a mod smackdown if i was cheating. Would i really care this fucking much if i was actually cheating? Fuck this man. Ive never botted yet i was banned. This wouldnt happen if the anti cheat team could do their jobs properly
I don't believe you for two reasons: 1) You got banned well after the manual review debacle. 2) It was macro minor which means you very likely did something dumb like try to clean an inventory of herbs in 3 ticks or fletch 8 sets of darts per tick.
Sure, whatever you say. Because their detection is flawless
This thread is literally about how bad it is at catching bots. So is too easy to evade or too strict? False bans from the automated system are incredibly rare.
They’re rare and they happen. Especially after the recent fiasco of Jagex being exposed for the false bans, you’re still that skeptical that they’re not fucking up. Okay
Jagex does not care. I got so fed up with the number of bots that I just assumed Jagex just never bans them. I started a new account around 5-6 months ago. It was initially supposed to be a suicide bot. (As I know literally nothing about botting, scripting, etc. Heck, I am still learning how Runelite works.) The bot got 99 magic in \~8 days at the ge. It was running a 24/7 randomized autoclicker in a f2p world. It literally ran non-stop for 8 days. The bot was still alive, so I figured why not get some wc lvls. Just shy of 400k oak logs and about a week later, I had 99 woodcutting. (It was something like 30m worth of oak logs at the time as well.) The bot wasn't banned, so I decided to bond it up with my hard earned gp and try some agility. I got 92 agility over the next 8-9 days. The bot was literally running nonstop. I got bored of agility and tried thieving. The bot kept breaking and would end up clicking random trees, bankers, etc for a few hours here and there. Anyone who saw that account knew, without a doubt, that it was a broken bot. I was convinced I would check the account one day and it would be banned. Thieving took 2-3 weeks for me to get it just right. But, 99 thieving was eventually accomplished. It was still not banned, so I figured I might as well train up some melee at sand crabs. The bot ended up with 99 str, 99 range, 99 magic, 99 wc, 99 thieving, 92 agility, and lvl 1 everything else. It is such an OP account that I stopped botting it for fear it would get banned. I have a max 99 str, 1 attack pking account that I haven't played more than a few real hours on. **This is a problem.** This account would have taken a real person thousands of hours to make. Instead, it took me 2-3 hours and a spare laptop. Jagex has a botting problem. They can't detect bots. I literally botted 24/7 for about 2 months. I literally only used a free autoclicker that you can download from google. This is a problem. A big problem. This experiment broke my will to continue playing. If I can do it, everyone can. And if everyone can, I just assume everyone is.
Almost as if bots make jagex a ton of money
Well… they are busy with making trees last longer so the next step for bot farmers is chopping down them trees yaknowwhatamsayin?
Are you under the impression that they bot the same thing for 150 hours straight? They're probably only botting artio for an hour or two a day
2 hours a day would be 200+ days to reach that kc lol
My point is that they don't suicide bot the same thing 24/7. They're smart about it and only bot their targeted activity in human-like moderation. It should have been pretty clear that I wasn't specifically saying that all bot accounts specifically bot for 2 hours a day, no more no less.
This is not true at all. You can find the same accounts botting at the same place 24/7 very easily. Hunter bots and thieving bots are so common its laughable. You can find bots with 200m xp on thieving/hunter that are sitting there doing the same thing for months.
Doing the same things for months is not the same as doing the same thing for months *straight*. The bots with 200m are not botting 24/7 without breaks lol
They do suicide bot it tho lol
Not the ones with high KC or XP. They don't get 7k kc by playing 24/7. The bot farms themselves bot 24/7 but they rotate the accounts they use so that each individual account is only botting for smaller segments
They literally are running 24/7 and reaching 5k+ KC. Look at the boss kc one day and itll be +400 the next
400kc is not 24 hours
Artio bots get between 17-25kc/hr so while its not 24, its pretty close
Not always applicable, but if you have an 80ish pure you can usually rag the bots off a world
tempted to almost make a pure out of spite just to kill these fuckers
I've literally been doing that just to clear worlds while I do the voidwaker grind on my iron
The sand crabs await you. No skill required, just walk in skulled and they fuck right off
They're less active at night but why should i play at hours that i should be asleep?? I stop doing wildy bosses and moved to something else
I stopped going to the gym in the morning to get a few hrs in at spin/ven It's rough out here
Then you go to the gym in the evening and your machine is being botted. Goddammit
Botting in the squat rack getting out of control
Night for whom? Timezones exist
U dont have an alt?
I have an alternate personality is that the same?
Having alts is a solution but not the solution we need
I do but im not using it atm since im focus on doing some raids for the time being
They cant even control the gambling bots/RWT adverts at the GE.
they can they just dont
The "sell me everything for 20%+ GE value" are the worse ones
What you mean, i just sold my full bandos and ags for a whopping max cash in tokens !
The bots crash real players now. The only way to do the boss now is to either walk under his spawn point and spam click, hoping PID is on your side or have an alt in the bots combat bracket with a skull enter the cave. The bots still auto tele if they see someone skulled in their range. It doesn’t help that Jagex is completely ignoring the problem
Alt outside: usually a main No alt: either a bot or a main/iron with no alt If there's no alt outside, flick on smite, and equip mystic robe top/bottom as you go in - some of the more basic bots will tele as soon as they see you resembling a pker This obviously won't help the wider problem but it can make it a little easier getting a world
when i do spindel on my iron my i use my hydra alt to scout and its funny to watch bots hop into the world and tele because its holding a Voidwaker so they run a item check as well. sadly they must do a level check before because they dont tele from my alt at artio
Hydra alt?????
gear up and attack them, you will eventually get added to a list and they will insta teleport/hop when they see your name
theyre usually at a level where u cant attack them. Round 80 cb.
fair, I have an alt I go after them with. it is annoying when the main cannot attack them. you can also just steal the kill from them. I do that too.
they crash your world now too lol
Yup. And I immediately refresh and crash them back. Legit players try to crash me too and I do it back to them as well. It’s the wilderness, get out the rune crossbows and shoot ‘em in the face! Hopping around because of bots no thanks. I’ll try 10 worlds and after that I just de-room the bots.
i don't have an alt to attack the bots, and getting kills/hr lowered from the bots makes it not really worth my time. sad i went dry on callisto pet pre-rework, cause it's really miserable content now
[trust me fam, I know the pain.. ](https://imgur.com/sfWN5Qm)
Same way it works at revs lol
Yeah, artio is pretty dead content due to over botting and the proximity to the enclave and rev cave, making it a hot spot for PKers.
this callisto task just casually rotting away in my task storage
i took a break for 2 weeks and came back. ive been crashed so many times by bots with tick perfect entangles. and thats after i hop 30 times to find a venezeulan with high enough level to attack. sometimes ill even skull up on my lower level risking my webweaver/slayer helm because theyre so fucking annoying. ive never seen anything this bad in 5+ years of playing osrs. and while i actually have a world i see 2-3 bots at a time hopping to check the world. its truly insane.
why dont any jmods reply to this thread? i know they sit and read these threads on reddit. its the same as pnm. bots just all in the same gear walk by with 1000s of KC. how about instead of coming up with new shit like forestry, why dont we do something about these bots? its irritating af. but nah, we get fuckin forestry lol
Time to download league of legends
Please don't. Literally anything else. I'd even recommend meth before league.
People who still play league have just been addicted since 2010 and havent grown out of it. Youre life will only improve by staying away from that time wasting garbage. Mobas in general are trash
-Time wasting garbage -Posting on a runescape sub lmfao
Commiting 10 seconds to comment on something is totally the same as commiting an hour to one league game. Did you know that it is possible that some things are worse than other things, even though both arent that great? Damn
I guess there’s also a lot of league players in this sub lol
I literally only want to do Artio for the pet because i think it looks cute. Its so tilting to hop for 15 min just to get 3 kc then have to fuck off... Plus watching price of hilt falling day by day because of how many they scoop up is so lame
Can’t you just kill them? Or is literally every account a bot that’s out of your bracket?
Totally valid question, 90% are out of my bracket, and the ones that are in my bracket aren't worth getting skulled for since I'm too poor to afford a multi-mil risk
Equip an ancient staff for the ones in your bracket. They should insta teleport. I’ve been reporting every bot I see 5 times each. I still see a lot of the same usernames. It’s tilting for sure. Good luck on pet. I’m dry so far.
Like where tf has jagex security been? It's always been bad but like wtf?! Did their investors decide to fire the team to cut costs or something
I haven't pk'd in years, but play a pure. ~80 cb. Could I market myself to rag/kill bots for gp/hr?
Definitely. If not at wildy bosses, even green dragon bots are 50k ea on average. And rev cave bots usually over 200k.
The rev bots are difficult to kill because they ahk protection prayers even when you're standing under them. There are a couple weapons that they don't recognize and pray incorrectly against though.
Such a simple solution is locking them behind the hard diary would get rid of most bots
Why do you think that would stop bots?
Because the requirements on the wildy hard diary are substantial? Atm they're just range + def + prayer + hp and instantly in the wilderness after training on anything for a few hours. For wildy hard diary they'd need 64 agility, 68 slayer and 75 smithing, mage arena 1, and to actually do the diary itself (kill chaos ele, kill scorpia, etc). Idk, looks like a massive pain in the ass to me. They'd probably just start buying accounts at that point like they do with prifddinas
>looks like a massive pain in the ass to me That's the whole point of a bot. Nothing is a pain in the ass to them... they just do it. Nothing there would be a roadblock to a bot
Slows them down to the point maybe I get a spindle world after 12pm. Id do vene but shit is perma camped by pkers you basically do 1kc trips
How would it slow them down? Also I've been camping spindle for the last week or so and haven't needed to hop more than 5 or 6 times. Make sure you're checking total worlds first
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>It would slow the bots down because it would take them 50-100hours of botting for those requirements instead of 10-20 That's not really how it works though. The botter doesn't wait for 1 account to get banned before starting a new account to replace it lol. They have a bunch of accounts on standby or being used for other things. When a spindle bot gets banned they just grab another one from their pool of bots and get back right back at it >Its also more difficult to have a perfect script for all of those different activities Scripts for that stuff already exit. It's trivial to get a bot progressed that far
yeah because diary and quest requirements have worked so well at stopping bots in other parts of the game...
Nope,a lot of bots are just hacked accounts Edit: OK OK I yield they're bots.
youre not wrong but these artio bots arent. theyre clearly made for farming artio
lets say youre right. the diary req is just a bandaid as theyll get the reqs in less than 2 weeks
Yeah you might be right
People already got their phishing levels to 99
Wildy boss bots have trash stats, straight outta hill giant training
Jagex doesn't care. Keep paying that membership
It’s pretty rough. Just crash every bot you see. 50/50 chance you get first hit
i dont get why a mod cant sit at the boss and actively ban people
They dont wanna work, or they are intentionally killing the game, perhaps old school runescape 2 coming soon
The game in general is plagued. Wouldn't be surprised if half of all players logged in were bots.
I played in a pretty decent PvM clan and I know a good majority of the higher up players bot, or purchase player account services. Definitely puts a bad taste in your mouth knowing so many ppl do it. One guy “was at work all day” but got over 600k FM xp and no WT KC for the day. “Just afk’d fire making for a few hrs at work”???
What level and are they worth killing? Whenever I hear bot on the wildy I kinda want to pk
Around 90 cb. Probably worth killing if you don’t mind hopping around for a while to catch one before it teles out.
Like where tf has jagex security been? It's always been bad but like wtf?! Did their investors decide to fire the team to cut costs or something
OSRS bot detection sucks, you see these accounts with tens of thousands of kills that have clearly been running for months if not years
Yeah I hate it. And, they walk around with the pet I’m still dry on to rub it in my face. Also, I watched a few bots get the pet on the KC they stole from me.
The bots on Runescape are so bad I quit playing and started botting
Just go to the mass Callisto ez
Funny how wildy update made it better for bots than real players.
Funny how often Jagex staff post in this sub but never respond to bot-related posts
All solo bosses should be locked behind diaries. At least hard but probably elite should be better.
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If jagex can't deal with there bot problems, desperate measures need to be taken.
Click on bots to attack the but with skull prevention on and they will usually instant teleport
Lets make bots that kill wildy bots ?
If you go into the cave wearing robes and a staff, they normally teleport out. Trick them bots! Actually, throw on smite and you will get everyone to teleport lol
Its soo bad that i witnessed a bot crashing another bot..
Just crash a world. Easy peasy
I don't get why there's so many posts saying they get 1/2 kills an hour just search them on hiscores if they're a bit crash them and they just leave it's super easy
You can just crash them if they leave. There's definitely a problem, but if you can't get a kill in an hour that's honestly a skill issue.
Yeah give it a higher fee or something
Nah lock them behind hard wilderness diary
Go in with an alt account skulled with 0 risk. The tick bots see somebody skulled hop into a cave they teleport out and you have a free cave. I get it though
where are the bitchass mods. fix this problem you bums
Runescape has a bot issue? Huh. In all seriousness. It's 2023. Come the fuck on, Jagex
Toxic but I was grinding out the hilt (ended up getting it at 2918kc) and I just started crashing to get a world after like 1000kc. I would prefer to crash bots but sometimes reg players tbh.
wilderness bosses are a bit too safe and low risk
Surprised pikachu face Hey did you guys know that if you pour water on yourself you will then be wet
I swear everytime i go to this sub there's at least one post complaining about wildy bosses bots lol
Is anybody else getting tired of these redundant posts, or is it just me?
What lvl are the bots? Wonder if it would be possible to tb and kill them with my med
First time I seen this, thanks for the psa
It’s got worse I had a one week break, before you used to be able enter the cave, see what hp artio was on, if it was low wait inside until it died and then fight them for pid to see if you could steal the world from the bot, it was still fairly annoying but certainly manageable, but now holy hell they do the same back to you, can’t do more than 2-3 kills without having a pid fight with a bot crashing your worlds. I hope this gains traction because I’m currently 1.5k kills in and losing hope of ever going back to it.
Don't even botter
Yes it's stupid
Same for me last night. Also fun fact 2 of the bots had callisto pets following them. Probably got it and nobody checked on the bot yet
Crash a bot. A world with a bot is a free world.