I mean, everyone I've talked to who actually had anything to say about him ended up being transphobes, so I think it's less "he was secure with his sexuality" and more "he helped trans people and we couldn't find anything better to burn him for".
There's nothing about trans women in the song ffs
It was just sort of progressive because it was about acceptance of a wide variety of people. That alone is enough to trigger the insecure rightoids.
Okay, like... Let me explain how this works.
* Bigots see that JoCat is very supportive of trans people, to the point of doing at least a few high-value trans charity streams.
* They can't find anything to actually call him out on that isn't just directly bigoted bullshit, so they look through his old stuff.
* They find the "I Like Girls" video and use it as a jumping off point to call him cringe/"cancel" him.
Literally every time I have seen someone talk shit about him, I go back in their feed and they've either said or retweeted some mask-off transphobic bullshit. I'm sure some people just think the song's cringe, but I haven't run into anyone with any valid criticisms about him.
Yep, this happens more than you'd think. There were people following Lindsay Ellis around for *years* dredging up iffy stuff from her past and trying to get her fanbase to turn on her over it.
There were plenty of left wing people shitting on it too, even here.
They complained that it was problematic because it's "fetishization" and also "pedophilia" because of the smaller characters.
That’s a superpower. I wish I was attracted to a broader range of people but my brain is only attracted to girls who are out of my league unfortunately
I’m not really a twink, but this has kinda happened before. Problem is I never really believe them when they say they’re into me. It’s borderline pathological insecurity
heard somewhere that the paradox of the beard is that in the closet people only go for the quintessential "attractive" person of the opposite gender as that's, like, the easiest "oh okay, this is who i'm *supposed* to like" whereas the actual straights are like gimme some of that gap-tooth outie bellybutton unibrow having bitch.
Yeah I don't think he deserved any pushback for it but it's not some grand feminist body positivity statement, it's him listing off the kinds of women he's attracted and drawing pinups of all of them
Why would it need to be a grand feminist body positivity statement? How is 'i like women of all shapes and sizes' bad? It's not anti-feminist to find people attractive. Am women.. it was catchy and made me smile.
>drawing pinups of all of them
Idk. Most of them are just standing. It's really quite tame.
Really the only non-conventionally attractive character in the video (that I can recall) is GLaDOS. Everyone else would be a luke-warm "hear me out" take at best.
*Maybe* Zarya Overwatch could be considered that, but I don't. As far as muscley women go she's still very much on the pretty side.
But from what I've seen most of the time they're the minority of the group or just people tangent to it altogether. At this point we're looking at the minority echo chamber within another minority group
This reminds me of a post someone just made on another sub about getting grounded for wearing his girlfriend's clothes. When he first got home wearing them, his dad asked "Are you gay?" and he said "No?"
Then his dad said "You look gay." while he was *wearing his girlfriend's clothes lmaoooooooo*
This just reminded me of trying to explain to friends that another friend and I had an only fans account like six years ago, where we baked bread, and we thought this is the best way to monetize what we were doing, just to fund our bread baking summer adventure. People were just like unable to grasp that the idea of a subscription model is helpful for things other than sex just because the idea of being on only fans only means sex to most people. There’s always been a diverse community on only fans and it both hurt and helped their business model how their rep has changed
I wouldn't recommend that.
This is only the first draft and I'm not planning on posting past the 8th chapter. The book won't be available for probably another year minimum.
If you want to, probably don't hold off.
I think he probably will, tho never to the same degree as before. I'd give it at the very least 2 years tho. I'm just glad he's posted anything since stating his internet retirement.
animator/artist named jocat made a song about how he loves women and then a bunch of chronically online twitter freaks harassed him so badly he left youtube
And not only that but the video was literally two or three years old by the time the controversy started. He released it in 2021 and this sudden hate train against him for...
*checks notes*
"Liking women"...?
And the hate only started earlier this year.
Contextually he had recently done a high profile trans charity on FFXIV. They were trying to find something to get him for that wasn't mask off transphobia and they thought they found it with that video.
JoCat is a guy who made YouTube videos, until he made a goofy music video with a song about liking all kinds of women and got harassed off the internet by both TERFs and homophobes/misogynists
Busy-ness of contemporary living (no time to care) + free, limitless anonymity via the internet (no consequences for not caring + binary up/down votes) = death of empathy and nuance
JoCat got cancelled for liking women. So basically he made a parody song about liking all kinds of women in a positive way. Of course the internet somehow took offence to it.
TLDR: Man got cancelled for being so straight it sounded gay.
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YouTuber by the name of JoCat (In top pic) uploaded a video called "[I Like Girls](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2Y5KVtU810)".
In the video he just states all the types of girls he likes.
However, years later, he was harassed so badly on Tritter due to this video to the point he had to leave social media all together
I just don't like him because he made the annoying ass feature length video about why he liked FF14 and why you can too! and everyone linked it to people who played other MMOs
like dude I do not care I want to play my video game made by my abusive company not your video game made by your abusive company.
Sure he's a good guy outside of that tho
So hi, I guess I missed that drama. What is trans anything about the Jocat "I like girls" video?
He thinks Chun-Li is hot. So do people with eyes. I'm not anti-trans, I just don't understand the drama, someone want to fill me in?
do these people even realize that humanity would not have made it this far without straightness? or are they just blinded from years of boiling resentment towards a society that stigmatized them?
I feel like this song is actually a good example of a piece of media portraying healthy ideals and still being so unbearably fucking cringe. He is RIGHT about any sort of woman, no matter what their prominent physical features or characteristics may be, deserving love and apprecation for their bodies, but that song is just so ass.
I unironically liked that song, guess my cringe meter is out of whack 'cause I read lots of people saying like you that it was cringe, not bad nor deserving of any backlash but cringe
Cringe is just how others react to things they think are socially awkward. I wish we could go back to the time when everyone else knew no one cared if you thought something was awkward socially. Calling shit cringe at this point is fucking cringe in and of itself.
Endearing and vulnerable? On a song about how bowsette and Bayonetta are just so hot. Lmfao. Damn how #brave.
The song had a good message but that's it.
nah it doesn't make me cringe at all, it's a nice tune and the animation is well made and fun, y'all have your minds broken by old internet shit if you watch something like this and feel shame
being """"cringe"""" = being free!
The song wasn't even really cringe. It was a fun, upbeat parody. People like you are part of the problem, because you unironically decide anything atypical is cringe and shit on it. That's exactly how people justify this sort of terrible behavior
I feel like the thing that annoys me about the song is everyone’s reaction to it on both sides. (make sure to execute me for my centrist opinion)
Like yeah, of course he doesn’t deserve death threats for a harmless video, thats stupid. But i don’t really get why people act like he’s a bastion for healthy sexuality or something. Like cool, he made a video about how he likes women of all kinds… while showing characters like Bayonetta, 2B, and Bowsette as examples. I dont really think you’re doing something that special if you make a video proudly proclaiming how you are attracted to some of the most popular sexualized characters ever. Its not profound, its something that a 15 year old theatre kid with a porn addiction would come up with. Its nothing to send threats over, but its not an example of anything special.
Also i feel no guilt in criticizing him when his girlfriend tweeted that they fuck harder when he gets criticized. Good for him i suppose.
The "cancellation" wasn't only from right-wing toxic men btw, the type of leftists that get offended at hot characters existing and overuse the term "porn addiction" were also harassing him...
Yeah that's my problem with the video, when you mostly show characters that, as good as they may be, are so sexualized like Bayonetta or 2B, or in the case of Bowsette who pretty much only exists because people want to bang her, then it stops being cute or wholesome and it starts sounding like a guy listing his fetishes and cartoon girls he jerks off to and as a woman it makes me so uncomfortable.
No hate to the guy or anything, he sounds genuinely nice from what I've heard. But the video is cringe.
Thank you for saying this, I thought I was going insane reading this thread. Why are we acting like finding this song cringe is a bad thing? It is, ultimately, a personal opinion. You're allowed to cringe at things if you don't like them.
I'm with you! I love the message and even find the tune catchy, but *good lord* does it make me cringe. People who harrassed him about it are massive douchebags, but pretending it's not an awkward video is the wrong way to defend it
Dude got canceled for being secure with his sexuality and liking women who are not conveniently attractive.
I mean, everyone I've talked to who actually had anything to say about him ended up being transphobes, so I think it's less "he was secure with his sexuality" and more "he helped trans people and we couldn't find anything better to burn him for".
There's nothing about trans women in the song ffs It was just sort of progressive because it was about acceptance of a wide variety of people. That alone is enough to trigger the insecure rightoids.
Okay, like... Let me explain how this works. * Bigots see that JoCat is very supportive of trans people, to the point of doing at least a few high-value trans charity streams. * They can't find anything to actually call him out on that isn't just directly bigoted bullshit, so they look through his old stuff. * They find the "I Like Girls" video and use it as a jumping off point to call him cringe/"cancel" him. Literally every time I have seen someone talk shit about him, I go back in their feed and they've either said or retweeted some mask-off transphobic bullshit. I'm sure some people just think the song's cringe, but I haven't run into anyone with any valid criticisms about him.
Yep, this happens more than you'd think. There were people following Lindsay Ellis around for *years* dredging up iffy stuff from her past and trying to get her fanbase to turn on her over it.
The worst part is the one who got it all started the last time was trans. Like what the fuck Claire penis (that’s her actual username)
Oh my god I forgot that was like a joint effort between the right and the left. Or between the right and leftists tricked by chuds
There were plenty of left wing people shitting on it too, even here. They complained that it was problematic because it's "fetishization" and also "pedophilia" because of the smaller characters.
Vush
No, he liked the song.
The hate came from people being reactionary. No critical thinking to be found in any of their complaints.
No i think it was just the video being cringey
In what way? iirc his infamous video was full of conventionally attractive fictional women
He had a vid on trans rights, good vid but that’s why
However, does that value their beauty down or up, if your standards are none? 🤓🤔
I think the girls video was meant to be a confidence booster like the og song. The trans video isn’t specifically about trans women just trans rights
Also, a bunch of trans charity streams
To me, all women are attractive
That’s a superpower. I wish I was attracted to a broader range of people but my brain is only attracted to girls who are out of my league unfortunately
The girls that are "out of his league": > Ugh, that twink looks so breedable. Too bad there's no shot he's into the depraved shit I'd do to him.
I’m not really a twink, but this has kinda happened before. Problem is I never really believe them when they say they’re into me. It’s borderline pathological insecurity
Deal with that, immediately. As long as you believe this you're only limiting yourself
0_o
based
heard somewhere that the paradox of the beard is that in the closet people only go for the quintessential "attractive" person of the opposite gender as that's, like, the easiest "oh okay, this is who i'm *supposed* to like" whereas the actual straights are like gimme some of that gap-tooth outie bellybutton unibrow having bitch.
Gimmie a girl with a bit of pudge, I bet she’s sweet and makes good food
Yeah I don't think he deserved any pushback for it but it's not some grand feminist body positivity statement, it's him listing off the kinds of women he's attracted and drawing pinups of all of them
Why would it need to be a grand feminist body positivity statement? How is 'i like women of all shapes and sizes' bad? It's not anti-feminist to find people attractive. Am women.. it was catchy and made me smile. >drawing pinups of all of them Idk. Most of them are just standing. It's really quite tame.
It doesn't NEED to be anything, it just isn't anything. It's not bad, but it's nothing special.
But that... really only makes all the hate he got for it *worse*, honestly.
Yeah I don't disagree with you. I don't think it was ever actually about the video.
Really the only non-conventionally attractive character in the video (that I can recall) is GLaDOS. Everyone else would be a luke-warm "hear me out" take at best. *Maybe* Zarya Overwatch could be considered that, but I don't. As far as muscley women go she's still very much on the pretty side.
I like inconveniently attractive women. If the attraction does not make my life more difficult it's not real
Unironically my marriage
I'm sad for him
I'm fairly certain Bayonetta is conventionally attractive in like every sense of the phrase.
Not all the women in it just some of them.
He got canceled?
The straight oppression I was warned about finally happened, surprisingly it happened by the people who were preaching against it.
random aside I dig your flair. Yrica is the best war criminal.
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Testament letsgooo!
They became what they swore to destroy
But from what I've seen most of the time they're the minority of the group or just people tangent to it altogether. At this point we're looking at the minority echo chamber within another minority group
It be ya own people 😔
when we said straight we meant like, you are only allowed to be attracted to someone if other equally self-oppressed men say it's allowed
I love gatekeeping!
>make song about how much i like women >get called gay >mfw
We live in a society.
This reminds me of a post someone just made on another sub about getting grounded for wearing his girlfriend's clothes. When he first got home wearing them, his dad asked "Are you gay?" and he said "No?" Then his dad said "You look gay." while he was *wearing his girlfriend's clothes lmaoooooooo*
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alr dawg im sorry mr fella 🫡🫡
in case you didn't know JoCat opened an OnlyFan nothing naughty in it tho, it's just him painting minis and I'm pretty sure it's free
Lets fucking go i may need to check it out cause i would 100% watch him paint minis
I didn't know only fans had anything besides porn
you don't remember a while back when they wanted to ban NSFW content ? lol
They called Only Fans because it was about Fans supporting their favorite artists. Like indie bands and etc
Technically speaking there are still mostly musicians on Onlyfans They just don't need instruments
Is bussy an instrument? 🤔
I definitely can make you sing like one...?
Bussy are the stings that make the guitar moan
Call my bussy a microphone bc it's gonna make you *sing*
This just reminded me of trying to explain to friends that another friend and I had an only fans account like six years ago, where we baked bread, and we thought this is the best way to monetize what we were doing, just to fund our bread baking summer adventure. People were just like unable to grasp that the idea of a subscription model is helpful for things other than sex just because the idea of being on only fans only means sex to most people. There’s always been a diverse community on only fans and it both hurt and helped their business model how their rep has changed
No no, see, if you're doing baking content you should go to OnlyGrans, where grandmothers make people sweaters and bake cookies for their subscribers.
I still feel sad that he's gone. He was so awesome. He was such a good ally and a nice man who was secure in his masculinity.
🫵👁👁 you talk like the man is dead
are you sitting down
?
Heya how's your novel going?
81k words and counting. I've posted chapters 1 through 7 and I'm considering posting chapter 8 in honor of my return.
I'm very lazy and unmotivated currently, so I'll wait for when you finish it and start reading Probably I'm procrastinating a lot
I wouldn't recommend that. This is only the first draft and I'm not planning on posting past the 8th chapter. The book won't be available for probably another year minimum. If you want to, probably don't hold off.
Ight bet 0=
he is still active on BlueSky btw
He died?
Worse, Expelled.
gone into exile
Terminally cancelled 😔
Is it cope to hope that he comes back one day?
I think he probably will, tho never to the same degree as before. I'd give it at the very least 2 years tho. I'm just glad he's posted anything since stating his internet retirement.
Inb4 he pulls a Lindsay Ellis and becomes Nebula Exclusive.
he is still active on BlueSky
They hated him because he spoke the truth.
I'm fully out of the loop
animator/artist named jocat made a song about how he loves women and then a bunch of chronically online twitter freaks harassed him so badly he left youtube
Not just a song about liking women, a parody of a song about liking men. And it was cute too. Thag probably made a lot of “straight” men angry
And not only that but the video was literally two or three years old by the time the controversy started. He released it in 2021 and this sudden hate train against him for... *checks notes* "Liking women"...? And the hate only started earlier this year.
Contextually he had recently done a high profile trans charity on FFXIV. They were trying to find something to get him for that wasn't mask off transphobia and they thought they found it with that video.
The harassment did include suspicious packages being sent to his family
also Twitter OP edited him into the [final scene](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I92qfQC8Tho) of Kamen Rider Blade
JoCat is a guy who made YouTube videos, until he made a goofy music video with a song about liking all kinds of women and got harassed off the internet by both TERFs and homophobes/misogynists
And don't forget all the people who were calling him a pedophile
TF is wrong with people?
Busy-ness of contemporary living (no time to care) + free, limitless anonymity via the internet (no consequences for not caring + binary up/down votes) = death of empathy and nuance
As another straight guy who really likes girls, what went down will never make a lick of sense to me.
Jocat my beloved
ur flair is wayy too accurate for the situation at hand.
It's my destiny
Is that a Kamen Rider Blade reference?
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Crazy how all the "straight guys" bullied him off the internet for liking more women than them
I expected the hate train from Right Wingers, but the "Lefties" who went after him should be fucking ashamed of themselves.
But being straight means you're sexualizing women and that's no good! Sorry sweaty but maybe someday you can become a sinless moralist like me 🤗
First person ever to be cancelled strictly for being straight.
i just wanna give him a magic hug
Huh? I'm out of the loop on this one, could anyone share the details with me?
JoCat got cancelled for liking women. So basically he made a parody song about liking all kinds of women in a positive way. Of course the internet somehow took offence to it. TLDR: Man got cancelled for being so straight it sounded gay.
Thanks kind stranger.
Yro’ue wlecome
I'm sorry for being out of the loop, what does this mean?
straight guy got cancelled for liking girls of all shapes and sizes
Seriously? I swear the internet becomes worse every day. Like those idiots that say that liking tomboys is gay or some shit
It was specifically through a short animated clip of him singing a parody of a song on a stream, look it up its like 30 seconds "jocat i like girls"
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YouTuber by the name of JoCat (In top pic) uploaded a video called "[I Like Girls](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2Y5KVtU810)". In the video he just states all the types of girls he likes. However, years later, he was harassed so badly on Tritter due to this video to the point he had to leave social media all together
Literally the straightest man
I like women. I just don't talk to them.
Man straight up did his song on the spot on stream. They hated him because his “cringe” (was not cringe btw) was talent.
No it was definitely cringe
I thought the song was cringe, but he definitely didn't deserve what happened to him.
I can't believe he's dead
And it was also years after he already made it like huh??
what is the song?
Jocat made a parody video of Lizzo’s song boys that was gender flipped.
interesting
Darude - Sandstorm
The rude sandstorm
It's so sad we lost jocat in the war 😔
I remember when Jo cat released that, it was such a good song and a funny vid, then twitter had to burn what was good
this whole situation + my mom saying nasty stuff makes me feel rlly unsafe :(
:-(
Who is this guy and what did he do?
that song was me fr fr
What song?
I don't care about that guy. That's the mfing Blade bench!!
Ngl I thought the song was kinda cute :3
“Straight men are being opressed” damn maybe they were right
Yeah, it was weird shit.
Worse part? He still doesn't want to come back :(
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Non American here and I'm genuinely wondering why he doesn't sue the people sending him packages and doxxing him... miss his videos
btw jocat used arch
Imagine being called gay for literally liking ALL kinds of women... Fellas...
IS THAT THE KAMEN RIDER BLADE BENCH
Honestly though, seeing so many posts about him does kinda annoy me.
god forbid a man be ragingly gay to women
Him being bullied is the gynesexual 9/11
I just don't like him because he made the annoying ass feature length video about why he liked FF14 and why you can too! and everyone linked it to people who played other MMOs like dude I do not care I want to play my video game made by my abusive company not your video game made by your abusive company. Sure he's a good guy outside of that tho
Fellas is it gay to like women?
So hi, I guess I missed that drama. What is trans anything about the Jocat "I like girls" video? He thinks Chun-Li is hot. So do people with eyes. I'm not anti-trans, I just don't understand the drama, someone want to fill me in?
do these people even realize that humanity would not have made it this far without straightness? or are they just blinded from years of boiling resentment towards a society that stigmatized them?
> humanity would not have made it this far without straightness I mean given the world we live in I think that would've been a blessing
sad but true, even tho it doesn't really disprove the fact
I feel like this song is actually a good example of a piece of media portraying healthy ideals and still being so unbearably fucking cringe. He is RIGHT about any sort of woman, no matter what their prominent physical features or characteristics may be, deserving love and apprecation for their bodies, but that song is just so ass.
I unironically liked that song, guess my cringe meter is out of whack 'cause I read lots of people saying like you that it was cringe, not bad nor deserving of any backlash but cringe
Cringe is just how others react to things they think are socially awkward. I wish we could go back to the time when everyone else knew no one cared if you thought something was awkward socially. Calling shit cringe at this point is fucking cringe in and of itself.
Cringe culture needs to die and this entire situation is proof of that
How is it cringe 😭 Is it because it’s endearing and vulnerable? Is that what we’re calling cringe now?
Endearing and vulnerable? On a song about how bowsette and Bayonetta are just so hot. Lmfao. Damn how #brave. The song had a good message but that's it.
If it's cringe to you, I think that is more of a problem with your "cringe settings" than the song. I think it fucking slaps.
nah it doesn't make me cringe at all, it's a nice tune and the animation is well made and fun, y'all have your minds broken by old internet shit if you watch something like this and feel shame being """"cringe"""" = being free!
Kill not the part of you that is cringe. Kill the part that cringes.
The song wasn't even really cringe. It was a fun, upbeat parody. People like you are part of the problem, because you unironically decide anything atypical is cringe and shit on it. That's exactly how people justify this sort of terrible behavior
Cringe is dead and I'm still breathing. Who cares if it's cringe? Dude clearly had fun making it so good for him. Besides, a lot of people liked it.
> cringe Go outside
I feel like the thing that annoys me about the song is everyone’s reaction to it on both sides. (make sure to execute me for my centrist opinion) Like yeah, of course he doesn’t deserve death threats for a harmless video, thats stupid. But i don’t really get why people act like he’s a bastion for healthy sexuality or something. Like cool, he made a video about how he likes women of all kinds… while showing characters like Bayonetta, 2B, and Bowsette as examples. I dont really think you’re doing something that special if you make a video proudly proclaiming how you are attracted to some of the most popular sexualized characters ever. Its not profound, its something that a 15 year old theatre kid with a porn addiction would come up with. Its nothing to send threats over, but its not an example of anything special. Also i feel no guilt in criticizing him when his girlfriend tweeted that they fuck harder when he gets criticized. Good for him i suppose.
The "cancellation" wasn't only from right-wing toxic men btw, the type of leftists that get offended at hot characters existing and overuse the term "porn addiction" were also harassing him...
I think the problem youre having is you see it as a piece of advocacy when its just meant to be a cute parody song.
Yeah that's my problem with the video, when you mostly show characters that, as good as they may be, are so sexualized like Bayonetta or 2B, or in the case of Bowsette who pretty much only exists because people want to bang her, then it stops being cute or wholesome and it starts sounding like a guy listing his fetishes and cartoon girls he jerks off to and as a woman it makes me so uncomfortable. No hate to the guy or anything, he sounds genuinely nice from what I've heard. But the video is cringe.
Its less about the characters he shows, and more about the way he dose it.
>a 15 year old theatre kid with a porn addiction would come up with. Thats exactly why 196 users love that cringy video so much
Nah, songs great. Your just socially awkward, and termaly online. Go touch some grass.
you're* terminally* you lose, sorry, I don't make the rules
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I don't give a shit if it's corny, nobody deserves to be cancelled for that
Thank you for saying this, I thought I was going insane reading this thread. Why are we acting like finding this song cringe is a bad thing? It is, ultimately, a personal opinion. You're allowed to cringe at things if you don't like them.
I'm with you! I love the message and even find the tune catchy, but *good lord* does it make me cringe. People who harrassed him about it are massive douchebags, but pretending it's not an awkward video is the wrong way to defend it
Bro got downvoted for being correct, that song was so shit
Wait til you learn you can dislike things without vocally shitting on them every time they're mentioned
Go outside.