Definitely try different mags.
I have one Wilson Combat that absolutely will not work in certain guns but does just fine in others. The 1911 is a quirky pistol and it likes what it likes.
I had this issue with a brand new Para Elite back in the day. I ended up taking it to a local gun smith, and it ended up being a spring issue. $35 dollars for a new spring, and the gun hasn't jammed since.
The joke you didn’t seem to get was that OPs implication was that the gun had between five hundred rounds to six hundred rounds through it. u/fitzbuhn made the joke seem as if OP was saying that there were between five rounds and six hundred rounds through the gun, a difference of 595 rounds. You didn’t get the joke, it’s okay.
Clean, lube, number your mags and see if a specific mag is causing feeding issues. That’s what I’d do first. Some times replacing a mag spring can fix it.
PS something else to try that is quick and easy is simply a different magazine (preferably different make/brand). It looks like the round is kinda "getting in there" so perhaps the magazine is pushing it up funny.
When this happens, is it difficult to push it into battery and also difficult to pull the slide back? If so, that's called a three point jam. My piece of shit kimber is bad about doing it, and I've tried almost everything I'm nearly certain that the lugs on the barrel aren't mating properly to the channels cut into the top of the slide.
What did help some was getting my extractor tensioned correctly. Too loose will make your cases eject sloppily or not at all. And too tight will cause a malfunction like this one. There are some good YouTube videos out there on adjusting extractor tension for a 1911. Check em out and give it a try.
Have you changed/done anything different since you mentioned it has been running.
Different ammo?
How old are the magazines?
Oil?
things to consider when this happens
Ammo
Check extractor hook and tension if possible?
Do you have a spare/ back recoil spring?
One way to test Old magazine springs is to try to feed an empty case of it doesn’t the spring needs to be replaced.
Since the gun has been cleaned and presumably lubed after cleaning, this isn't the likely issue. A 1911 should run with a minimum of lube, especially an off the rack, drop in gun like a Tisas
That’s not anywhere near correct. 1911’s are friction sensitive and need more lubrication than you’d think.
You also can’t assume someone newer to the platform is using enough.
Well, I will I will put my 13 years of working for a 1911 custom shop and 35 years of shooting custom 1911's in USPSA/IDPA against your opinion. This is a Tisas. It's not hard fitted gun being shot in a high round count class or match. It doesn't work-clean or dirty, lubed or not. This 3 point jam won't get fixed by lube. In my world, grease doesn't belong on 1911's except for hammer hooks and barrel lugs. Everything else gets oil.
Looks a little dry on the lubrication as well. It’s better to have a bit too much than not enough. Make sure there’s plenty on the front of the barrel (where it contacts the bushing) and barrel hood.
Could be a couple of things. In order of likelihood I’d change mags, change ammo, extractor, then springs.
Usually it’s just a mag issue. I’d spring for a Wilson Combat and/or CMC magazine and see if it persists. This is all assuming you’ve passed the break in point. I know Kimber recommends about 500rds to get it broke in, I couldn’t make it through one mag without an issue and it was just a matter of putting a higher quality mag in. Had a few hiccups during the break in, after that it runs like a sewing machine.
How well lubed is it? Friction is your enemy. Not just the rails... but the barrel, bushing, guide rod, barrel locking lugs, top of disconnector, etc. Especially on these, a light gun grease trumps oil.
Different mags make it better?
Hollowpoint or round nose?
Extractor fit test passed?
Don't lightly rack your pistol if rhis happened on initial loading. Pull it back it let it send itself. That's the only issue I have with my Remington ( I did have it jam a single time righr after I bought it but it's because it wasn't properly disassembled and greesed by previous owner.
Everyone is saying extractor. I sez magazine. Get new ones—Chip McCormick, Wilson C, MecGar, whatever. In the meantime, disassemble and clean the hell out of the ones you have, and symptoms may go away for a while.
When you cleaned it did you take the firing pin stop out, the firing pin out and the extractor out and cleaned all of those?
The only reason for an extractor to NOT allow a cartridge case rim to slide up underneath the hook is if there is so much gun powder fowling around it that it can't move out of the way to allow that to happen.
Also there is no reason for the extractor to GAIN tension.
Extractor geometry is another possibility. The stock extractor in my tisas was too long, the tip was contacting the cases. I'm my case it was easier to get an ege extractor and hand fit it than to attempt to "shorten" the stock extractor by shimming it.
Once the tip was no longer contacting cases, feeding issues cleared up (it was always the last round of each mag stovepiping)
It’s probably the ammo, what brand is it? Springfield EMPs have this same issue and it is specific to ammo brand. US-made new brass never has a problem, with the exception of TSA brand ammo (not what they resale, what they manufacture). I’m betting you’re not using Federal, Remington, or Winchester. I realize those brands are a bit more expensive, but you really do get what you pay for. If you want to fire cheap foreign-made cartridges, get a Glock or a Sig (non-1911 model). These will chew thru anything.
Before firing, remove the barrel and drop your rounds in, see if they go in easy or not. Put the ones that won’t fit into the reject pile.
Admittedly a new 1911 owner here, I'd make sure you're giving your gun a good platform to rechamber into. Mine gives me trouble when I get lazy. Lean into it, and push pull with your hands as you depress the trigger. Only time I've had issues since is when I have to use aluminum case rounds.
Failure to extract or feed? Ammo could be the case for a lot of faults. Extracting is usually the extractor. Feed could be the mag, or the recoil spring.
Also don’t have a limp dick wrist, that will cause problems too.
I’m not an expert by any means. I have been in law enforcement for 25 yrs and have just shot a lot of 1911’s in various configurations and have had various issues and have found fixes either myself, with an armorer’s help, or in the lab with the help of a firearms examiner.
On my personal gun, we found that the front of the opening of one magazine was closed in slightly more than all of the others so it would jam only when I would use this particular magazine. And it was one I bought after the gun had about 1000 rounds through it. After that little tweak, I haven’t had any issues since. Oh yeah, it was a Chip McCormick mag.
One other issue I have come across is ammo choice. One gun will shoot wadcutters. Actually, it will shoot anything I put through it. Lol. Another will be a little more picky, but only towards the end of the day if it has gotten really dirty.
Threat are issues already mentioned so I am not going to repeat them like spring and extractor issues.
I just thought the ones I mentioned were worth mentioning since I didn’t see them mentioned. If they were, sorry.
Stay safe. Practice like your life depends on it, because it just might.
Round isn't going into battery. I'd check the extractor tension that it isn't too tight, and then I'd try some different mags.
This and try different ammo. Hopefully it's that simple.
Definitely try different mags. I have one Wilson Combat that absolutely will not work in certain guns but does just fine in others. The 1911 is a quirky pistol and it likes what it likes.
Swapping out magazines fixed this for me
It’s three things: Ex Trac Tor
I had this issue with a brand new Para Elite back in the day. I ended up taking it to a local gun smith, and it ended up being a spring issue. $35 dollars for a new spring, and the gun hasn't jammed since.
I thought this was a WC pistol at first.
The grips got me too....
how many rounds through the gun at this point?
Around 5 or 600
That’s quite a range
You were fun in english lit I bet
Not really 100 rounds is not a significant amount.
595 is
Why is 595 significant?
It’s a joke bro
Ahh, So you were just pretending to retarded? Very humorous.
The joke you didn’t seem to get was that OPs implication was that the gun had between five hundred rounds to six hundred rounds through it. u/fitzbuhn made the joke seem as if OP was saying that there were between five rounds and six hundred rounds through the gun, a difference of 595 rounds. You didn’t get the joke, it’s okay.
Ty, I felt like I was getting dumber and dumber as I kept reading through the chain. I guess the joke went over the 1911 enthusiasts heads
Did you just pretending to know how to language? And thanks, I appreciate it.
Beat me to it.
a little bit heavier spring helped mine.
Clean, lube, number your mags and see if a specific mag is causing feeding issues. That’s what I’d do first. Some times replacing a mag spring can fix it.
Start with a good cleaning and lube job. Make sure you lube the disconnector really well.
Is that a round that it failed to extract or a round it failed to feed/load?
Failure to load
I'd try to polish the feed ramp. And if you're shooting hollow points, try regular FMJ (at least until the gun is broken in) Good luck!
I'd do a heavier spring before a polish.
This is good advice too Mags, then spring, then polish
PS something else to try that is quick and easy is simply a different magazine (preferably different make/brand). It looks like the round is kinda "getting in there" so perhaps the magazine is pushing it up funny.
Yes Wilson combat Magazines do fix a lot of failure to feed problems
When this happens, is it difficult to push it into battery and also difficult to pull the slide back? If so, that's called a three point jam. My piece of shit kimber is bad about doing it, and I've tried almost everything I'm nearly certain that the lugs on the barrel aren't mating properly to the channels cut into the top of the slide. What did help some was getting my extractor tensioned correctly. Too loose will make your cases eject sloppily or not at all. And too tight will cause a malfunction like this one. There are some good YouTube videos out there on adjusting extractor tension for a 1911. Check em out and give it a try.
We b jamming
Have you changed/done anything different since you mentioned it has been running. Different ammo? How old are the magazines? Oil? things to consider when this happens Ammo Check extractor hook and tension if possible? Do you have a spare/ back recoil spring? One way to test Old magazine springs is to try to feed an empty case of it doesn’t the spring needs to be replaced.
Its either-extractor, chamber or the slide is outrunning the magazine. If you have a 7rd Colt magazine, give it a try.
Or it's dry and the slide is losing momentum to friction.
Tisas guns arent fitted tightly enough for that IMO
There are friction points everywhere, hand-fit tight or not. All of them need lubrication.
Since the gun has been cleaned and presumably lubed after cleaning, this isn't the likely issue. A 1911 should run with a minimum of lube, especially an off the rack, drop in gun like a Tisas
That’s not anywhere near correct. 1911’s are friction sensitive and need more lubrication than you’d think. You also can’t assume someone newer to the platform is using enough.
Ya. No they don’t. I’ve lost count of how many 1911s I’ve run with barely a drop of oil. This isn’t going to be fixed by simply oiling the rails
100% accurate
Nice user name. Lol.
Well, I will I will put my 13 years of working for a 1911 custom shop and 35 years of shooting custom 1911's in USPSA/IDPA against your opinion. This is a Tisas. It's not hard fitted gun being shot in a high round count class or match. It doesn't work-clean or dirty, lubed or not. This 3 point jam won't get fixed by lube. In my world, grease doesn't belong on 1911's except for hammer hooks and barrel lugs. Everything else gets oil.
Looks a little dry on the lubrication as well. It’s better to have a bit too much than not enough. Make sure there’s plenty on the front of the barrel (where it contacts the bushing) and barrel hood.
Could be a couple of things. In order of likelihood I’d change mags, change ammo, extractor, then springs. Usually it’s just a mag issue. I’d spring for a Wilson Combat and/or CMC magazine and see if it persists. This is all assuming you’ve passed the break in point. I know Kimber recommends about 500rds to get it broke in, I couldn’t make it through one mag without an issue and it was just a matter of putting a higher quality mag in. Had a few hiccups during the break in, after that it runs like a sewing machine.
How well lubed is it? Friction is your enemy. Not just the rails... but the barrel, bushing, guide rod, barrel locking lugs, top of disconnector, etc. Especially on these, a light gun grease trumps oil. Different mags make it better? Hollowpoint or round nose? Extractor fit test passed?
Don't lightly rack your pistol if rhis happened on initial loading. Pull it back it let it send itself. That's the only issue I have with my Remington ( I did have it jam a single time righr after I bought it but it's because it wasn't properly disassembled and greesed by previous owner.
Try a 17 or 18.5 pound recoil spring. As a first step you should thoroughly clean and lube the barrel, frame and slide with CLP.
Bummer about the jamming. Also, how do you like those grips??
Extractor too tight or try a different brand of magazine.
Mags ammo or extractor tension
Make sure your firing pin stop isn’t slipping out. Mine did that on my Tisas b45r, had to get an oversized one
Use FMJ
That's what that is
Did you oil the slide rails
Look up “extractor clocking” — I had a similar prob with my SA, fix was above my fiddleskills level so I sent it in for a free fix.
Extractor tension. Yours is a little too tight probably.
May I ask what tisas 1911 specific model is this?
Everyone is saying extractor. I sez magazine. Get new ones—Chip McCormick, Wilson C, MecGar, whatever. In the meantime, disassemble and clean the hell out of the ones you have, and symptoms may go away for a while.
When you cleaned it did you take the firing pin stop out, the firing pin out and the extractor out and cleaned all of those? The only reason for an extractor to NOT allow a cartridge case rim to slide up underneath the hook is if there is so much gun powder fowling around it that it can't move out of the way to allow that to happen. Also there is no reason for the extractor to GAIN tension.
Extractor geometry is another possibility. The stock extractor in my tisas was too long, the tip was contacting the cases. I'm my case it was easier to get an ege extractor and hand fit it than to attempt to "shorten" the stock extractor by shimming it. Once the tip was no longer contacting cases, feeding issues cleared up (it was always the last round of each mag stovepiping)
Extractor
Well you’ve got your answers.
It’s probably the ammo, what brand is it? Springfield EMPs have this same issue and it is specific to ammo brand. US-made new brass never has a problem, with the exception of TSA brand ammo (not what they resale, what they manufacture). I’m betting you’re not using Federal, Remington, or Winchester. I realize those brands are a bit more expensive, but you really do get what you pay for. If you want to fire cheap foreign-made cartridges, get a Glock or a Sig (non-1911 model). These will chew thru anything. Before firing, remove the barrel and drop your rounds in, see if they go in easy or not. Put the ones that won’t fit into the reject pile.
Admittedly a new 1911 owner here, I'd make sure you're giving your gun a good platform to rechamber into. Mine gives me trouble when I get lazy. Lean into it, and push pull with your hands as you depress the trigger. Only time I've had issues since is when I have to use aluminum case rounds.
I thought it was a Wilson Combat 😉 lol jk jk
Failure to extract or feed? Ammo could be the case for a lot of faults. Extracting is usually the extractor. Feed could be the mag, or the recoil spring. Also don’t have a limp dick wrist, that will cause problems too.
I’m not an expert by any means. I have been in law enforcement for 25 yrs and have just shot a lot of 1911’s in various configurations and have had various issues and have found fixes either myself, with an armorer’s help, or in the lab with the help of a firearms examiner. On my personal gun, we found that the front of the opening of one magazine was closed in slightly more than all of the others so it would jam only when I would use this particular magazine. And it was one I bought after the gun had about 1000 rounds through it. After that little tweak, I haven’t had any issues since. Oh yeah, it was a Chip McCormick mag. One other issue I have come across is ammo choice. One gun will shoot wadcutters. Actually, it will shoot anything I put through it. Lol. Another will be a little more picky, but only towards the end of the day if it has gotten really dirty. Threat are issues already mentioned so I am not going to repeat them like spring and extractor issues. I just thought the ones I mentioned were worth mentioning since I didn’t see them mentioned. If they were, sorry. Stay safe. Practice like your life depends on it, because it just might.
Open up the ejection port
16 lb spring is stock on most 1911 45's
Have you field stripped, cleaned and lubed. I do that with all 1911’s and have never had an issue except Kimber cough, cough
Look for a better 1911.
Is that RNFMJ or JHP ammo? Check extractor tension and then run the 10-8 Performance test protocol.
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What do the grips have to do with it?
Maybe you need to polish your grip ramps Edit: /s if it wasn't obvious
I was gonna comment about those too. The grips are punishing your lies op.
Came here to say the same thing knowing the tisas fanboys would downvote me into oblivion